On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 9:40 AM Eliot Lear <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Pete,
> On 27.05.2026 17:52, Pete Resnick wrote:
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>
> Just in case it isn't crystal clear: EKR's point is that Russ and I could
> declare that the RSWG (including everyone from the IETF) has rough
> consensus to approve the document, but the IESG could simultaneously decide
> that the IETF does not have consensus, and since there's only one IETF
> stream rep on the RSOC, the document could be published without
> IESG-approved IETF consensus.
>
> One basis for the RSAB rejecting a document is if there is a lack of faith
> in that consensus.  That is, the chairs don't get the final word on that in
> this case, for this very reason.  We created these processes.  Either we
> trust them or we don't.  If we don't we should change them.
>
It's not that simple. I trust them within the domain they were intended
for. I don't trust them outside of that domain. For example, they would not
be adequate to approve documents for Standards Track.

-Ekr


> Eliot
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