On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:18 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>
>  I think I've been misunderstood! :) And I think I know why.
>>
>>
I think I still did not manage to convey my real concern. Let's try again:

When I started the rsyslog project, a big motivation was to prevent a
monopoly, which syslog-ng semed to become at that time. Even though the
syslog-ng folks were (and still are ;)) very far from evil. I like freedom
of choice.

Fast-foward 10 years... If now utilizing github to its full potential means
that *everything* must be done on github and you'll lose momentum if not
everyone works with the github system ... we clearly have a monopoly again
(or at least one that's trying to be built). This at the very heart is
against the philosophy that created rsyslog. If there were really no chance
to nurturing rsyslog than giving in to that monopoly, I would probably opt
to give up rather than join the "lemmings".

IMHO this is also the real spirt behind open source software, or better
said "free software".

I know this is pretty philosophical, nit-picking and probably an extreme
PoV. But it is *me* and what keeps me motivated. Haveing spent 10 years of
my life on this project, I take the liberty to feel rsyslog as a part of
"me" (not excluding others -- for details see
http://blog.gerhards.net/2008/08/work-and-personality.html ) Believe me,
there had been ample opportunities to earn a large fortune if I had not
sticked to certain principles.

Again, I am not trying to bash at you (Otis) or anyone who thinks alike. I
just want to explain why I have a different PoV here -- and I think at this
point it is perfectly OK to agree that we disagree. I still highly value
your contributions, and I can think that we'll move a bit closer to part of
the github momentum (just think what we already did to the doc project!).
But at the end of the day, there is a fine line that must be drawn. That's
my firm believe, and I am willing to sacrifice quite a bit for it.

It's good to be able to convey guiding principles in such conversations. I
love the ML and its contributors.

Rainer
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