Hi, Yeah, I'll stop trying to explain what I see from where I sit and will respect your choice even if I think there are more optimal ones. No offense taken and I hope I helped (the society and this project at list a liiiiiiittle tinny bit). :)
Otis -- Performance Monitoring * Log Analytics * Search Analytics Solr & Elasticsearch Support * http://sematext.com/ On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Rainer Gerhards <[email protected]>wrote: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:18 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Otis Gospodnetic wrote: > > > > I think I've been misunderstood! :) And I think I know why. > >> > >> > I think I still did not manage to convey my real concern. Let's try again: > > When I started the rsyslog project, a big motivation was to prevent a > monopoly, which syslog-ng semed to become at that time. Even though the > syslog-ng folks were (and still are ;)) very far from evil. I like freedom > of choice. > > Fast-foward 10 years... If now utilizing github to its full potential means > that *everything* must be done on github and you'll lose momentum if not > everyone works with the github system ... we clearly have a monopoly again > (or at least one that's trying to be built). This at the very heart is > against the philosophy that created rsyslog. If there were really no chance > to nurturing rsyslog than giving in to that monopoly, I would probably opt > to give up rather than join the "lemmings". > > IMHO this is also the real spirt behind open source software, or better > said "free software". > > I know this is pretty philosophical, nit-picking and probably an extreme > PoV. But it is *me* and what keeps me motivated. Haveing spent 10 years of > my life on this project, I take the liberty to feel rsyslog as a part of > "me" (not excluding others -- for details see > http://blog.gerhards.net/2008/08/work-and-personality.html ) Believe me, > there had been ample opportunities to earn a large fortune if I had not > sticked to certain principles. > > Again, I am not trying to bash at you (Otis) or anyone who thinks alike. I > just want to explain why I have a different PoV here -- and I think at this > point it is perfectly OK to agree that we disagree. I still highly value > your contributions, and I can think that we'll move a bit closer to part of > the github momentum (just think what we already did to the doc project!). > But at the end of the day, there is a fine line that must be drawn. That's > my firm believe, and I am willing to sacrifice quite a bit for it. > > It's good to be able to convey guiding principles in such conversations. I > love the ML and its contributors. > > Rainer > _______________________________________________ > rsyslog mailing list > http://lists.adiscon.net/mailman/listinfo/rsyslog > http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/ > What's up with rsyslog? Follow https://twitter.com/rgerhards > NOTE WELL: This is a PUBLIC mailing list, posts are ARCHIVED by a myriad > of sites beyond our control. PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE and DO NOT POST if you > DON'T LIKE THAT. > _______________________________________________ rsyslog mailing list http://lists.adiscon.net/mailman/listinfo/rsyslog http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/ What's up with rsyslog? Follow https://twitter.com/rgerhards NOTE WELL: This is a PUBLIC mailing list, posts are ARCHIVED by a myriad of sites beyond our control. PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE and DO NOT POST if you DON'T LIKE THAT.
