I had a sneaking suspicion that would be the case. I might setup a system 
running the Fedora version with this setup (Fedora 20 I think?) when its 
available to do some tests on exactly how it is implemented and what possible 
options exist. That should help me be a bit ahead of the game for when it 
finally makes it's way into CentOS.

-- James


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rainer Gerhards
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:07 AM
To: rsyslog-users
Subject: [rsyslog] systemd without journal

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Boylan, James <[email protected]>wrote:

> I had heard about that change. I expect to have to work on building a 
> new set of service scripts and spec files once that change is ported 
> into CentOS so that I can use Rsyslog in place of systemd's journaling.


Ah, it's not that easy... Due to systemd's "modular" design, you cannot run 
without the journal. I even think the log socket is hard coded. So a way must 
be found to make apps log to a different log socket that rsyslog can than pick 
up. As long as you don't care about performance, you can just use the journal 
"forwarder", but if you need performance, it really get's messy....

Rainer


> At the very least it will require thought on how to make the new RPMs 
> disable the system journal logging if it conflicts with Rsyslog in any way.
> I won't know for sure until I can start testing with it.
>
> -- James
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Rainer Gerhards
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:58 AM
> To: rsyslog-users
> Subject: Re: [rsyslog] rsyslog-pkg-centos?
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Boylan, James 
> <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > No mad push on it. Was a thought I figured I would voice. :)
> >
> > That one I would be more than happy to help with as I'm working with 
> > them regularly in our environment.
> >
> >
> There is probably bigger difference between RH and Adiscon packages in 
> the future. Reason is that RH is moving towards a slightly diffrent 
> slope of systemd journal integration than we do. I expect default 
> configs to be quite a bit different in the future...
>
> Rainer
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