That's exactly what I was thinking. I'll let you know what the results of my 
tests are. My hope is that I'll find a seamless way to disable that feature 
when installing the RPM.

-- James

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Lang
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 11:18 AM
To: rsyslog-users
Subject: Re: [rsyslog] systemd without journal

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Rainer Gerhards wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Boylan, James <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> I had a sneaking suspicion that would be the case. I might setup a 
>> system running the Fedora version with this setup (Fedora 20 I 
>> think?) when its available to do some tests on exactly how it is 
>> implemented and what possible options exist. That should help me be a 
>> bit ahead of the game for when it finally makes it's way into CentOS.
>>
>>
> Oh, that would be great. I admit I was so busy the past month that I 
> didn't even bother to try this. As a side-note, I have some 
> replacement library work lying around that can be preloaded and 
> redirects logging traffic to a diffrent socket. It's hackish, but may 
> be needed in high performance environments.
>
> In any case, please keep us updated -- maybe we can craft some of the 
> new packages based on your findings.
>
> I really think we need two sets of standard things: one for the low 
> end, where folks are happy with the journal and just would like to get e.g.
> router messages into it .... and one for real logging...

well, the systemd people keep insisting that systemd is modular and you can 
just not use the journal if you don't like it, maby we should have a config 
that takes them at their word (and watch them scream ;-)

seriously though, what is the performance impact of going through the journal?

> IMHO both are valid use cases.

agreed.

David Lang
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