I can do that. Verified that it is in Fedora 20 
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998573). I'll have to look into 
finding a place to install it. I'll probably just install a local VM for it.

I definitely agree that it might be prudent to create two different 
implementation processes. One for the average user that is just looking to 
install Rsyslog and the forwarding would work and the high end users who 
require every little mhz of resources a system can provide. My hope is that 
we'll be able to come up with a clean way of implementing this that doesn't 
require a hack and can be done with a standard RPM install.

I'll keep you in the loop of what I can find.

-- James

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rainer Gerhards
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:14 AM
To: rsyslog-users
Subject: Re: [rsyslog] systemd without journal

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Boylan, James <[email protected]>wrote:

> I had a sneaking suspicion that would be the case. I might setup a 
> system running the Fedora version with this setup (Fedora 20 I think?) 
> when its available to do some tests on exactly how it is implemented 
> and what possible options exist. That should help me be a bit ahead of 
> the game for when it finally makes it's way into CentOS.
>
>
Oh, that would be great. I admit I was so busy the past month that I didn't 
even bother to try this. As a side-note, I have some replacement library work 
lying around that can be preloaded and redirects logging traffic to a diffrent 
socket. It's hackish, but may be needed in high performance environments.

In any case, please keep us updated -- maybe we can craft some of the new 
packages based on your findings.

I really think we need two sets of standard things: one for the low end, where 
folks are happy with the journal and just would like to get e.g.
router messages into it .... and one for real logging...

IMHO both are valid use cases.

Rainer
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