Its not that difficult to get info (not all- but quite alot) from J&K
Govt under Central RTI Act. It could also involve the same technique I
used to get info out of the TRAI (Central) under the Delhi RTI Act in
24.Jan 2003 which they gave me after bitter struggle on 2.May.2003
which I promptly filed in SC the same day - with spectacular results -
causing me to withdraw the Petition I had lodged in the SC Registry
within a week.

In the same vein, getting access to Visitor Registers and Attendance
Registers is trivial under RTI Act if the PIO plays by the Act. The
problems is not in the Act (whose language is clear) but the courage
of the PIO to give access.

8(2) "public interest" is NOT a positive feature, it is a negative aid
to the PIO to deny information. Understand this and you will not have
problems - ignore the "foolish little RTI activists with head stuffed
full of nonsense" who guide you otherwise. The RTI Act is for citizens
who desire to have non-excluded information (eventually) from Govt.

Sarbajit

--- In [email protected], C K Jam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Manoj,
> 
> That is a good one.
> How did you ever manage that ?
> J & K is clearly out of the purview.
> Unless  you applied to PA's under central government.
> I am not sure if Central PA's in J&K are covered under the RTI Act
or not.
> 
> Property returns was not that difficult. But what purpose does it
serve ?
> If someone is intelligent enough to be corrupt, then he must be
intelligent enough to use "benami" transactions.
> 
> I haven't been able to get hold of the attendance register or the
visitors book.
> Actually haven't tried as yet and therefore wanted to get the fundas
straightened out and tie up all loose ends before the attempt. It's
not for me, but someone who asked for my help.
> 
> Actually I am a total novice at all this. Still at the "infant"
stage of helping people identify PIO's , support in RTI rules and in
drafting applications/appeals/complaints. 
> Lots more to learn. 
> 
> Especially after Sarabjit gave me a B - . 
> Must put in more effort and work harder !
> Problem is, I don't even know my caste. 
> So, cannot even ask for OBC discount.
> (He He He LOL)
> 
> RTIWanted
> 
> Manoj Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                             Hello
again RTI Wanted ! 
>  
>  From you post it appears that you have already managed
>  to get hold of the copy of an attendance register (or
>  muster) in the Minister's office. This includes the
>  Visitors Book as well, I bet. These are easy.
>  
>  Congrats for managing to get hold of copies of
>  property returns on 3 occasions. In this case, I bet
>  the CPIO did not know the law well and probably your
>  aggressive nature made him submit!
>  
>  Now, let me pose with a sound and sensible riddle,
>  since you seem to like them - How do you get
>  information from J&K Under the Central RTI Act?
>  (Before you react, I dont want to blow my horn, but
>  would like to inform you, that in Year 2006, I have
>  managed to get information from no less than 10 Public
>  Authorities, in J&K, using the same Central RTI Act.)
>  
>  Manoj Pai
>  Ahmedabad
>  


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