Hi Rakesh (Gupta),

(Rakesh and I are RTI veterans from "Delhi RTI Act" days.
The reasons we disagree are due to our Legal dictionaries
- he prefers "Blacks" whereas I use Indian ones :-)

You are corrected that information sought by Mr Singhal ought
to be disclosed u/s 4. In my view it attracts 4(1)(d) disclosure
of only the following - 1) Name of allottee 2) Serial No.of
Application form. Nothing else personal to the succesful
allottee is liable to be disclosed. 

Once an information is published by a PA proactively u/s 4,
there is no obligation for a PIO to disclose it. Please
understand what I am saying here very carefully !!! There are
many CIC decisions on this which are substantially correct.
At best a PIO can be expected to respond to a request for
such information on a section 6 request by guiding the
applicant to the website or other section 4 disclosure -
although he is not obliged to.

Sarbajit

--- In [email protected], RAKESH GUPTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> REPY IS NO DUE TO FOLLOWIONG REASN.
> Ground 1-Objection raised to deny is wrong because, these are
section 4 of the RTI Act, information , which can not covered under
Section 8(1)(j) /11 of the RTI Act, 2005. as follows.
> .Right to information and obligations of public authorities
> 4. (1) Every public authority shallâ€"
> b) publish within one hundred and twenty days from the enactment of
this Act,â€"
> (iii) the procedure followed in the decision making process,
> including channels of supervision and accountability;
> (iv) the norms set by it for the discharge of its functions;
> (v) the rules, regulations, instructions, manuals and records, held by
> it or under its control or used by its employees for discharging
> its functions;
> (vi) a statement of the categories of documents that are held by it or
> under its control;
> In the light of above , I had following submission in this regards
> Â 
> 
> Information seek are covered under Section 4(1)(b)(iii) of the Right
to Information Act, 2005 and should be provided by the public
authority on their own. 
> Section 4(1)(b)( (xii) of the Right to Information Act, 2005 the
manner of execution of subsidy programmes, including the amounts
allocated and the details of beneficiaries of such programmes;
> Section 4(1)(b) (xiii) of the Right to Information Act, 2005
particulars of  recipients of concessions, permits or authorisations
granted by it;
> It prove , public authority had failed in his duty as per Section
4(1)(a) the Right to Information Act, 2005-to maintain all its records
duly catalogued and index This is the duty of Public Authority since
2002 due to freedom of Information Act, 2002. It shows for the last 5
years public authority failed in his function , which should be
complete in six month. 
> Ground â€"2
> All the information sought is given in the sale deed/ lease deed /
such deed on which land / plot/ flat are given to private party, which
is to be registered with the Registrar.
> All the documents registered with the Registrar are Public documents
and any one takes copy of the same.
> Therefore, these information, which are already public or became
public in due course of action cannot be said covered under Section
8(1)(j) /11.
> Ground Number 3.
> Similar information is published by DDA and Urban Development
Ministry in their websites as per obligation of Section 4 on the
Public Authority.
> Ground -4
> q       The information contain in this file is commercial
information, and nothing is personal in the file . Exemption 8(1)(j)
claimed is wrong. 
> q       This kind of commercial information is not covered
under exemption 8(1)clause d) (information including commercial
confidence, trade secrets or intellectual property, the disclosure of
which would harm the competitive position of a third party, unless the
competent authority is satisfied that larger public interest warrants
the disclosure of such information;) because disclosure of this
information has not would harm the competitive position of a third party
> WITH REGARDS
> RAKESH GUPTA


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