Dear Sarbjit, I feel this is a letter v/s. spirit debate.
How can a person as an official government servant become more reliable and the same person as a volunteer/ intern become unreliable? If SG is performing as an IC, I am sure that given his age and expreience, he definetly has the capability of interviewing and recruiting a few persons. (IC + Additional charge of HR) The Commisioner knows better what work he wants to get done from his staff, and accordingly he must have interviewed and selected the persons for the job. Now if govt officially appoints them and pays for it, then they become more authentic, honest and reliable, is it?? I fully agree to IC(SG's) bold and unprecedented decision to recruit interns and pay from his own pocket. "If the machine of government is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law. HENRY DAVID THOREAU" "In matters of conscience, the law of the majority has no place. MOHANDAS GANDHI" I AM MORE WORRIED ABOUT IC(SG) NOT IMPLEMENTING SEC. 19(B), 19(C) + 20 (1) AND 20(2) OF THE ACT MORE RELIGIOUSLY. Warm Regards, On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 sroy1947 wrote : >http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/FAAD_03022009_01.pdf > >In this decision "Bimal Khemani vs CPIO CIC", Mr Haleem Khan indicates that as >per GOI letter the CIC cannot engage temporary / volunteer staff. Mr >Habibullah may again clarify the nature / payments for Mr Shailesh Gandhi's >private "staff" especially now that he has received many complaints concerning >OSA violation from affected persons concerning improper circulation by IC(SG) >of official RTI documents to NCPRI bigwigs for "advice". Mr Habibullah can >indicate whether OSA clearance was ever given by him for such practices. > >In my view, it was also highly improper for IC(SG) to hear Prashant Bhushan >(his co-NCPRI commitee member) when the third party (me) was not given notice >in Batla House "Life and liberty" FIR matter. > >Sarbajit > >--- In [email protected], "Sunil Ahya" <sunila...@...> wrote: > > > > > > I suppose IC(SG) signs below all the decision that he passes. > > > > Interns may have been hired only to assist and not substitute him. > > > > Ultimately SG will pass the decisions and not the interns, so where is the > > debate. > > > > As far as I know SG had got only two assistants from the Government and > > that too the assistants who do know to operate computers. > > > > So we suggest that SG should have managed practically with those two > > assistants who are not comfortable with computers, then: > > > > 1) Who will type notices, take print outs and mail to PIOs and AAs? > > 2) Who will type , take print outs and mail it to concerned parties the > > number of decisions passed by him every day? > > 3) Who will keep ready all the files and details of the cases listed for > > hearing on the given day? > > 4) In cases of iteration who will keep track of the cases before him? > > 5) Other similar day to day office work. > > > > I fully agree and back SG's decision to hire private interns to assist him. > > > > As Coln. Shivraj highlighted Government do outsource many activities in > > almost all departments and this is one such activity. > > > > Sunil. > > > > > > On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 COL.SHIVRAJ KUMAR wrote : > > >Dear All, > > >I am very happy that a debate got initiated on the good work done by Shri > > >Shailesh Gandhi as CIC by hiring volunteers for his office at his own > > >expense. > > >You all can see that how we interpret each activity of the govt officials. > > >I was present in the hall at Mumbai, when Shailesh said all this. The media > > >has not brought out the correct picture, in that, he was forced to do this > > >because the lack of staff shall increase the pending files and the RTI act > > >shall become like any other govt department where the cases are decided > > >after many years. > > >*RTI act will, then, die its natural death. He is forcing the departments > > >he > > >is handling to give the correct information in itme to the applicant so > > >that > > >the appeals reduce. This is the aim for a better service to the society.* > > >*I urge the citizens of India to support all such govt officials, not only > > >Shailesh, who are prepared to use their personal resources for better > > >efficiency.* > > >*In my opinion, Shailesh, a young enthusiast, has not violated any law. The > > >govt is outsourcing so many activities in almost all departments and this > > >is > > >one such activity.* > > >** > > >regards > > >Col Shivraj > > >regards > > >Col Shivraj > > > > > > > > >On 3/9/09, sroy1947 <sroy1...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Sid > > > > > > > > Mr H's disapproval is oblique. > > > > > > > > 1) IC (SG) has breached OSA by allowing his private interns to have > > > > access > > > > to CIC documents WITHOUT the approval of CIC. > > > > > > > > 2) On of his interns (a lady lawyer) was extremely rude to me (and > > > > incidentally attempted to teach me RTI Act) when I had some cause to > > > > visit > > > > IC(SG)'s office to enquire about his cause list for the day and 3rd > > > > party > > > > participation in hearings. IC(SG) backed up this lady, refuses to take > > > > note > > > > of the procedural Rules and and refuses to allow 3rd parties to have > > > > their > > > > say before him - quite unlike the approach of other ICs like C'IC, > > > > IC(AT) > > > > and IC(MLS) etc. where we have repeatedly demonstrated the necessity of > > > > 3rd > > > > party intervention to prevent miscarriages of law > > > > > > > > 3) The fact that IC(SG) does not allow 3rd parties to speak (in > > > > violation > > > > of duly notified Rules) is clear evidence that he is a scofflaw, corrupt > > > > and/or insecure individual. > > > > > > > > 4) BTW: Who really pays for these interns ? What is the official CIC > > > > policy > > > > now on all those private consultants who the ICs hired and though whom > > > > the > > > > PIOs route their bribes ? > > > > > > > > Sarbajit > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] <rti_india%40yahoogroups.com>, Sidharth > > > > <sidharthbbsr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There's an interesting news item that quotes CIC Sh. Habibullah like > > > > this. > > > > > "Shailesh Gandhi did what is restricted by government rules. You > > > > > can't do > > > > > that really. But he has hired someone on his own cost. If he wants to > > > > > do > > > > > that, he can do it but its normally not the norm of the government," > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/avbsq8 > > > > > > > > > > If IC SG has indulged in such an abnormal activity flouting norms then > > > > CIC > > > > > should not have allowed him to do this for all these months. > > > > > > > > > > There's no point in going to press on these. He should have stopped > > > > > these > > > > > activities using powers vested with him when they were started. CIC is > > > > > equally guilty on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
