Very correct reply on this board.
Bhaskar

On 3/16/09, Vidya Vaidya <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>   dear friends,
> we have all been reading for many days now, various versions of how
> shailesh
> gandhi the cic in delhi has failed us on many counts.
> some are upset that he is using his government salary to hire private staff
> to help him clear the appeals coming to his table, calling this action
> illegal.
> others are upset, that he does not let the third party citizens allowed by
> him to attend his hearings, to intervene while the proceedings are going
> on;
> these citizens are complete strangers to the appellants and as such, are
> not
> part of the appellant's group.
> yet others are livid that he is not penalizing the pios and the first
> appellate authorities.
> some are concerned that he is unionizing the official contract workers.
> between us, we need to clarify some misunderstandings and focus on the real
> and crucial issues of dispensing information.
>
> 1.cic shailesh gandhi has repeatedly requested the govt for more staff for
> his office, to no avail.
> the very forces fighting the dead bureaucracy, now think it would be more
> appropriate for him to follow the old and redundant bureaucratic method of
> pushing files from one table to another, for an urgent matter like more
> staff to clear the pendency? especially, given, that he knows that the
> government has no intentions of complying? left to his allotted staff, he
> would be sitting and twiddling his thumbs.
> should he have done precisely that, as that is what is officially
> permitted, instead of working from 9 am in the morning to late in the
> evening with the help of his extra staff?
>
> oh yes, shall we ask him if this extra work is permitted under the present
> rules and regulations, how much is he taking as overtime, what about the
> chai pani for his staff at such times, who is paying for this, what about
> the extra electricity bills? endless possibilities for new and newer
> kafkaesque scenarios are just waiting to be explored here. what say?do you
> not think the rti forum will be well utilized for this. no doubt, we will
> all be tremendously entertained for a long time if we do.
>
> 2. hearings, held at any forum, may it then be the court of law, or in
> front
> of an rti official, have to follow a certain order for the proceedings to
> be
> carried out,smoothly. interrupting or intervening during this procedure can
> not be allowed as it would break the thought processes and eventually lead
> to chaos. cic shailesh gandhi may have permitted citizens as observers to
> his hearings, this does not automatically lead to any right to interfere in
> his proceedings.
>
> 3. as cic shailesh gandhi explained in his talk on 8th march, he felt that
> to begin his work in a completely hostile environment, with penalties,
> would
> defeat the purpose he had gone to delhi for. his thinking was that if the
> officers were to be converted to providing information, instead of blocking
> it, it would be necessary to nurture them for a certain length of time/
> period. he has done so, with levying a minimum of penalties and has got
> excellent results. he has also, subsequently announced, that the so called
> amnesty period is now over. in the 2009 cases the authorities will be
> penalised as required.
> are we more interested in a sea change in the mindset of our bureaucracy,
> ensuring that the wonderful rti act is followed in word and spirit, as
> well,
> or in checking how many officers the cic has beaten with the penal stick?
> besides, why do we decide that a citizen activist should function, only
> thus
> so and no other way. a hard core bureaucrat yes, we know that 99.99% will
> follow a fixed path.
> to feel betrayed, like a little child denied a lollipop, if a thinking
> adult follows a different path then the one proscribed by the child;
> displays shades of hitler do you not think?
>
> 4. cic shailesh gandhi found out that the official contractors were not
> paying their workers as promised and so stood up for these workers' rights.
> these are frightened kids just out of college. should he have kept quiet
> you
> think, letting the cycle of corruption to continue?
> really, tremendous potential here for more kafkaesque conversations over
> the
> internet, regarding this.
> cic (sg) has insisted that he must have computer literate staff, and most
> of
> even the top officials are not so. wrong of him to ask for this?
> filling systematically is non existent in the government offices. he is
> trying to bring some order in his, should we allow him to do that or insist
> that he function in the *official* manner?
>
> i feel, perhaps, some will disagree, that we are in danger of completely
> forgetting the ideals that drove shailesh to accepting the post of the cic
> in delhi.
> we too, urged him to do so, as we felt that he would be able to bring in
> real change in the babus, in delhi.
> what is important, is the sense, that information has to be transparently
> available to all of us. this is an attitude lacking in most of our
> officers,
> but, they are not a set of evil minders and to treat them so, would defeat
> the purpose of oiling the rusted machinery and making it work for us.
> why insist that there is only one set way to achieve this?
>
> regards,
> vidya vaidya
>
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> >
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