At the time of submission, I was not aware that Red Hat is a company that commits illegal actions. And now I'm "explicitly stating" that I do not wish to include my work to the project.
On Sep 1, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Greg Barton wrote: > See http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 > > "5. Submission of Contributions. Unless You explicitly state otherwise, any > Contribution intentionally submitted for inclusion in the Work by You to the > Licensor shall be under the terms and conditions of this License, without any > additional terms or conditions. Notwithstanding the above, nothing herein > shall supersede or modify the terms of any separate license agreement you may > have executed with Licensor regarding such Contributions." > > Did you, at the time of submission, have a separate agreement? In writing? > Signed by all parties? > > GreG > > On Aug 31, 2010, at 20:50, 山本 裕介 <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> At the time of your contributions to Drools and other projects you were a >>> Red Hat employee. The Red Hat legal department has determined that it has >>> the right to copy, modify and distribute your contributions under the >>> Apache License version 2.0 and considers this matter closed. >> >> Richard didn't explain that. >> I didn't use Red Hat time to fix those bugs, translate message resources. I >> believe that "I am/was a Red Hat employee" doesn't matter. I'm not paid for >> the task. >> >> "At the time the code was contributed in good faith under the Apache >> license, you cannot then decide at a later date to change your mind." >> My understanding is that people just do not want to undone their >> contributions usually. That is how OSS works. >> Technically the copyright holder of translated message resources, program >> codes is the originator. >> I agreed to distribute my work under the ASL, but I didn't tell that I >> willingly give away the copyright to the project. >> Anybody who originates their work (i.e. the copyright holder) should be able >> to decide the license at a later date. >> >> Richard, any comment? >> >> On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Michael Neale wrote: >> >>> So is the reason that there is a dispute over another copyright holder? (ie >>> these changes were copied in violation of that copyright in the first >>> place) - or a case of changing-minds about rights to the commits of the >>> original work? (if the latter then close the issue - nothing can or should >>> be done - as it is a licencing issue then, not a copyright issue, and as >>> Mark says the licence doesn't permit that revoking). >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Mark Proctor <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Yusuke, >>> At the time of your contributions to Drools and other projects you were a >>> Red Hat employee. The Red Hat legal department has determined that it has >>> the right to copy, modify and distribute your contributions under the >>> Apache License version 2.0 and considers this matter closed. If you have >>> any further need to discuss this please do so with Red Hat legal, - you >>> have their contact details. >>> >>> Even if you were not a Red Hat employee, which you were at the time, you >>> cannot undo an OSS code contribution, that is not how OSS licensing works. >>> At the time the code was contributed in good faith under the Apache >>> license, you cannot then decide at a later date to change your mind. The >>> OSS licenses, be it ASL or LGPL or GPL, are designed specifically to >>> provide certainty in that area. Without this level of certainty end user >>> OSS adoption would be a minefield as every time developers fall out, which >>> happens often, one could demand all their code be removed and this would >>> impact everyone who has invested time installing that software in >>> production systems. >>> Mark >>> >>> On 31/08/2010 17:41, 山本 裕介 wrote: >>>> >>>> I have consulted RH legal dept. only to get no meaningful response. >>>> I guess Edson is the one who commit most of these files. >>>> The how and why they need to be uncommitted is attached to the Jira issue. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Yusuke >>>> >>>> On Sep 1, 2010, at 1:34 AM, Mauricio Salatino wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Yusuke, good question. I'm not sure where is the right place, but you >>>>> are only asking to rollback your changes right? >>>>> who commit all your contributions to the jboss repo? >>>>> I also saw that you mention: "For several reasons, I decided to withdraw >>>>> those contributions introduced from my spare time. " >>>>> can you mention those reasons? so we, as community can learn why you want >>>>> to remove your contributions. I'm just curious. >>>>> Greetings. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:50 PM, 山本 裕介 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Where is the appropriate forum for copyright issues? >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 1, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Greg Barton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > This is not the appropriate forum for copyrighgt issues. >>>>> > >>>>> > GreG >>>>> > >>>>> > On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:40, 山本 裕介 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi, >>>>> > >>>>> > There's a copyright violation issue on Drools 5.1 release. >>>>> > Please remove the changes listed in the following issue. >>>>> > https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-2660 >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks, >>>>> > Yusuke >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > rules-users mailing list >>>>> > [email protected] >>>>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > rules-users mailing list >>>>> > [email protected] >>>>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> rules-users mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> - CTO @ http://www.plugtree.com >>>>> - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com >>>>> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar >>>>> >>>>> - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio - >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> rules-users mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> rules-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rules-dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Michael D Neale >>> home: www.michaelneale.net >>> blog: michaelneale.blogspot.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rules-dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rules-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-dev > > _______________________________________________ > rules-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-dev
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