I have tried 00 with non-DCC-ed locomotive and NCE. It did not work.
When I discussed this with Don Waingrove many years ago, he said "no
non-DCC or DC motor option". I just spoke to NCE and they have kept the
same philosophy.
I do not wish to contradict one of the men who "wrote the book" but the
reality is no DC motor with NCE.
Cheers,
Carmen
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Roger Nulton
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:28 PM
To: ed_loizeaux; [email protected]; Greene, Michael
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Digitrax or NCE??
My NCE Power Pro Manual states that the system will not run
locos with DC, and that NCE thinks that it's a bad idea (to
paraphrase). I have installed a DPDT switch on my layout so that I can
toggle between my DC power pack and my DCC system. Allows me to run
locos to test before installing a decoder, and to run my old stuff that
may never be decoder equipped. I store locos on dead sidings to protect
them from any damaging current.
Roger Nulton
----- Original Message -----
From: Greene, Michael
To: ed_loizeaux ; [email protected]
<mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Digitrax or NCE??
Ed
The NCE PowerHouse Pro system does have a NMRA Conformance
Warrant
(warrant #2005-11), but to the best of my knowledge it does not
support running an engine without a decoder. The NMRA standards
for
DCC do not require that a manufacturer implement the ability to
operate a loco without a decoder on the system. It's at the
discretion of the manufacturer. While it is a nice feature that
allows a modeler to test run a loco just purchased and in which
you
have not yet installed a decoder, doing so also has some other
implications. See this older DCC FAQ for more details
http://jdb.psu.edu/nmra/faq_19.html#comp
<http://jdb.psu.edu/nmra/faq_19.html#comp>
I haven't seen many negative effects of this feature (so called
zero
stretching) on S scale engines (the motors are more robust). I
have
seen and heard of definite negative effects in my former scale
(N). I
would recommend some care in operating non-decoder equipped
locos on
a DCC system and I don't recommend leaving a loco with out a
decoder
just sitting on a DCC powered track. It can generate a lot of a
vibration/heat depending on the motor.
Regards
Michael
At 1/30/2008 03:06 PM, ed_loizeaux wrote:
>--- In [email protected]
<mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com> , Don Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am not very familar with NCE, but I believe
> > you will need another board to operate non-decoder engines.
>
>Just to set the record straight, the NCE system is NMRA
compliant and
>certified and has a Conformance Warrant. That alone says it
will
>operate engines without a decoder. No additional hardware is
>required. Cheers...Ed L.
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Michael Greene Dunstable, MA, USA
Member: NMRA(Life), NASG, Bristol S Gaugers, The 470 Railroad
Club
National Assoc. of S Gaugers http://www.nasg.org
<http://www.nasg.org>
DCC Corner http://www.dccinfo.com <http://www.dccinfo.com>
Maine Railroads http://www.mainerailroads.org
<http://www.mainerailroads.org>
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