Re:  White Oak turnouts

I have about 50 of Kelvin's turnouts on my railroad. All of Ed's comments are 
true.  They are great operating turnouts because they have a continuous rail 
from the point thru the frog AND they allow one to operate with power directed 
thru the points (you don't need contact routing switches) because the bottom of 
the point rails are designed to be in contact with 6 to 8 PC ties at all times. 
 Thus the power is picked up thru a long length of the bottom on the point 
rails, not just thru the razor sharp points themselves.  4-8-4's, 
2-10-2's, Cab forwards - all operate thru them flawlessly.  I use #8's and 
#6's.  Both are terrific products.  Older S scale brass (ALCO RS-5/6) built to 
the old standards require the guard rails to be "bent out" slightly to allow 
more clearance for their thicker flanges and wheels.  

A downside is that the PC ties do not have grain (per Ed).  A bigger one is 
that their PC ties are are not the same thickness as the S plastic ties on any 
flex-track or the stock wood ties for hand-laid track.  Each turnout must be 
shimmed to proper height to match.  I use a dense card stock material (.030).  
Another downside is that they are VERY expensive with the current value of the 
UK Pound vs US dollar.  I remember that Kelvin made a special run of his 
turnouts a year or so ago to meet the pent up needs of his US buyers.  Still, 
next to building your own with FastTrax, these are the finest turnouts I've 
ever seen or used.

I also have a number of Shinohara turnouts.  Most have been replaced with White 
Oak, but I still use a few in the yards as their #6 is actually more like a #5 
turnout.  The only real  downside I have found is the use of jointed point 
rails in place of the continuous rails of White Oak.  The joints are sometimes 
a bit "sloppy" and they do not always carry the current well.  They are fairly 
priced, however, and do operate pretty well, especially the #8's.

Bob Hogan    

--- In [email protected], "Ed" <loize...@...> wrote:
>
> > How can we find the supplier of this British turnouts?
> > Ed Sauers
> 
> Whiteoak Models is the company name used by Kelvin White of Oxford, England.  
> He purchases them from an English company (forgot name) that primarily makes 
> HO turnouts.  I think Kelvin paid for the upfront design and tooling costs.  
> These turnouts are very precise, rails soldered to circuit board ties, 
> accurately gauged, razor sharp points and frogs, and with continuously curved 
> closure rails which make it easier for long wheelbased steam locos to run 
> through them smoothly.  Really nice.  Downsides:  ties have no woodgrain or 
> knots.  Cannot adjust rails/gauge easily (no spikes).  Tom Hawley used to be 
> the USA dealer for them.  Good luck...Ed L.
>




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