Generally, I agree with your conclusions (including the idea I proposed, that for the same money one could have bought an S Helper EMD--and actually cheaper during the SHS sale--for what the Miller with replacement drive brought). I am puzzled why you put the gear tower in the center of the frame than in the hood end, however. With the exception of the issues I'd already noted, however, my Miller doesn't run all that badly. Just not so well as my SHS EMD's.
Jace Kahn General Manager Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co. > I agree with Pieter on this one. I purchased the body/frame many years ago > and then about five years ago found a Cascade conversion kit. I didn't like > the gear tower in the cab so modified it and moved it to the hood between > the two trucks. The problem is that there's not enough room between the > trucks and gear tower to install the universals. I thought maybe I'd use > flex tubing on one end and a single universal on each truck. I never > proceeded beyond thinking about that because SHS came out with their amazing > NW-2, then I acquired their SW-1 and now I have Jim's H10-44. There's no > way I could ever make the old Miller Alco run as good as they do. And, if I > ever feel like I have to have one, I'd likely go the Railmaster/North Yard > route. Maybe it was a good conversion back in the day, but it can't compete > with the likes of what's out there now. > > Bob Frascella > Wenham, MA > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:58 PM, JGG KahnSr <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The Miller hood will make either an S-2 or (with replacement AAR > > sideframes) an S-4; the S-1 (and S-3) not only have a narrower set of hood > > louvres but since they were 660HP units, the exhaust is a conical stack > > centered rather than the offset tapered square stack on the turbocharged > > 1000HP S-2/4. Very early Alco switchers also had a low stack like the early > > EMC switchers which most owners replaced or > > extended with a straight pipe. I think the earliest S-1's also had a > > circular fan housing on top of the hood rather than the more common > > rectangular one. > > > > > > Jace Kahn > > > > General Manager > > Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co. > > > > > To: [email protected] <S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com> > > > From: [email protected] <pieter_roos%40yahoo.com> > > > Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:36:08 -0700 > > > > > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Miller S1.... > > > > > > Hi Bob; > > > > > > S-1 and S-2 had Blunt trucks, later models had AAR switcher trucks. The > > S-1 had somewhat more narrow radiator shutters on the hood sides (I'm sure > > there are other spotting features). > > > > > > All would have had riveted cab sides. The plain sides on the Miller model > > are a missing deta, not a spotting feature. > > > > > > I saw an ad from G&W for a replacement Miller drive in a old Herald, > > maybe I should scan and post it to the group. > > > > > > Pieter Roos > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Bob Werre > > > <[email protected]<bob%40bobwphoto.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > > Ed, First off the Miller switcher with it's original trucks was really > > > a S-4. The S-1 had a riveted cab I believe. > > > > > > I had the entire kit, but sold it some time ago. Our local expert, Jack > > > Troxell built one many years ago. He made it into a fine running engine > > > though he did complain that the gears seemed a little on the small > > > side. He used the original Miller sideframes and fitted the Beverage > > > drive to it. > > > > > > So it can be made into a fine running engine. > > > > > > Bob Werre > > > BobWphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
