Have found that the original Miller power is slowed somewhat by using one or two dummy units with the power unit. It is a shame the original idea did not work too well, with their ease of installation, and the Cascade units are not great either. Maybe some one will have a good replacement that works great and is easy to use.
--- In [email protected], JGG KahnSr <jacek...@...> wrote: > > > Generally, I agree with your conclusions (including the idea I proposed, that > for the same money one could have bought an S Helper > EMD--and actually cheaper during the SHS sale--for what the Miller with > replacement drive brought). > I am puzzled why you put the gear tower in the center of the frame than in > the hood end, however. With the exception of the issues > I'd already noted, however, my Miller doesn't run all that badly. Just not > so well as my SHS EMD's. > > Jace Kahn > > General Manager > Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co. > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Pieter on this one. I purchased the body/frame many years ago > > and then about five years ago found a Cascade conversion kit. I didn't like > > the gear tower in the cab so modified it and moved it to the hood between > > the two trucks. The problem is that there's not enough room between the > > trucks and gear tower to install the universals. I thought maybe I'd use > > flex tubing on one end and a single universal on each truck. I never > > proceeded beyond thinking about that because SHS came out with their amazing > > NW-2, then I acquired their SW-1 and now I have Jim's H10-44. There's no > > way I could ever make the old Miller Alco run as good as they do. And, if I > > ever feel like I have to have one, I'd likely go the Railmaster/North Yard > > route. Maybe it was a good conversion back in the day, but it can't compete > > with the likes of what's out there now. > > > > Bob Frascella > > Wenham, MA > > > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:58 PM, JGG KahnSr <jacek...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Miller hood will make either an S-2 or (with replacement AAR > > > sideframes) an S-4; the S-1 (and S-3) not only have a narrower set of hood > > > louvres but since they were 660HP units, the exhaust is a conical stack > > > centered rather than the offset tapered square stack on the turbocharged > > > 1000HP S-2/4. Very early Alco switchers also had a low stack like the > > > early > > > EMC switchers which most owners replaced or > > > extended with a straight pipe. I think the earliest S-1's also had a > > > circular fan housing on top of the hood rather than the more common > > > rectangular one. > > > > > > > > > Jace Kahn > > > > > > General Manager > > > Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co. > > > > > > > To: [email protected] <S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > From: pieter_r...@... <pieter_roos%40yahoo.com> > > > > Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:36:08 -0700 > > > > > > > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Miller S1.... > > > > > > > > Hi Bob; > > > > > > > > S-1 and S-2 had Blunt trucks, later models had AAR switcher trucks. The > > > S-1 had somewhat more narrow radiator shutters on the hood sides (I'm sure > > > there are other spotting features). > > > > > > > > All would have had riveted cab sides. The plain sides on the Miller > > > > model > > > are a missing deta, not a spotting feature. > > > > > > > > I saw an ad from G&W for a replacement Miller drive in a old Herald, > > > maybe I should scan and post it to the group. > > > > > > > > Pieter Roos > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Bob Werre <b...@...<bob%40bobwphoto.com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Ed, First off the Miller switcher with it's original trucks was really > > > > a S-4. The S-1 had a riveted cab I believe. > > > > > > > > I had the entire kit, but sold it some time ago. Our local expert, Jack > > > > Troxell built one many years ago. He made it into a fine running engine > > > > though he did complain that the gears seemed a little on the small > > > > side. He used the original Miller sideframes and fitted the Beverage > > > > drive to it. > > > > > > > > So it can be made into a fine running engine. > > > > > > > > Bob Werre > > > > BobWphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
