I’ll have to get some of those books, Pieter. They look very useful. Expensive, though: I’ll need to sell some of my freight cars! Roger
From: Pieter Roos Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Tank Cars Hi Roger; The Speedwitch Media book I cited actually does have a couple of shots showing car tops of steam era tank cars, as well as many other photos and text describing the differences between manufacturer's car designs (at least, the tank section of the guide I have covers all that, the current book is supposed to be an expansion of the one I have). It is all B+W. Morning Sun recently released a color guide to tank cars if you want color photos, although I suspect the steam era coverage is limited. Pieter E. Roos --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Roger Nulton <mailto:roger.nulton%40comcast.net> wrote: > From: Roger Nulton <mailto:roger.nulton%40comcast.net> > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Tank Cars > To: mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 1:16 PM > You’re right, Pieter. I have > several freight car detail books and none show the top of a > tank. There is 1 drawing in TS Cyc. #12 that seems to > suggest the alternating rivet pattern you describe. > One of these days, I may press on some of my Archer > rivets. So far, only 1 guy has counted the rivets on > my tank cars! Of course, most of my paint schemes are > probably wrong anyway. > > Hopefully, others building these cars will benefit from the > info shared here. > > Thanks, Roger > > From: Pieter Roos > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 8:25 PM > To: mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Tank Cars > > > Hi Roger; > > I looked at one of my SSA tanks, there is a single row of > rivets along the center of the tank top. There should be an > offset double row (the rivet of one row falling opposite the > gap in the other row). If people notice, you could replace > them with Archer decal rivets. Not too many shots show the > top of tank cars. > > Two excellent sources of information would be Trainshed > Cyclopedia No. 12 (Tank Cars 1922 - 1944) and the Speedwitch > Media "Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual, Volume Two: > Tank Cars" found at > > http://www.speedwitch.com/Books.htm > > Pieter E. Roos > > --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Roger Nulton > <mailto:roger.nulton%40comcast.net> wrote: > > > From: Roger Nulton > <mailto:roger.nulton%40comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Tank Cars > > To: mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com > > Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 1:03 PM > > Pieter, > > > > Thanks for the info on tank cars. Since I have > a > > couple dozen of the SSA kits that I have painted and > > decaled, it’s good to know that they are close to > being > > accurate! I’ve also been told that the rivets > on the > > top of the tank are wrong. Does anyone know what > is > > correct? > > > > Roger Nulton > > > > From: Pieter Roos > > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 11:01 AM > > To: mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Tank Cars > > > > > > Hi Dick; > > > > Those changes would make the car look more like an ACF > (or > > several other builder's) cars. As is, the cars are > most > > similar to GATX cars which did not have the end or > stub side > > sills. See the Google Books reference I posted earlier > which > > covers some of this. > > > > For GATX cars they should have two-rung corner steps. > > > > Pieter E. Roos > > > > --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Richard Karnes > > <mailto:rnk2202%40yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Ed et al -- > > > > > > Des Plaines/S Scale America makes a 1920s-1040s > tank > > car > > > that superficially > > > looks like a large-dome uninsulated > ICC-103. I > > have a > > > few, but I have altered > > > them. The SSA car comes without side and > end > > > sills. It has holes to mount end > > > grabirons atop the end walk. There are end > trusses > > instead > > > of end sills. I > > > adapted Ye Olde Huff 'n' Puff tank car end sills > to > > these > > > cars, and I added side > > > sills between the car ends and the body > > bolsters. The > > > end trusses are now > > > crossbearers at the car's third points. > > > > > > When I post a photo of one, I will let the group > > know. > > > > > > Dick Karnes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > mailto:S-Scale-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > mailto:S-Scale-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! 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