When PRS was still run by John Verser I purchased the detail sprues and 
cast them in brass. I then soldered the end details on to the Perma-Built metal 
ends. I also made up roofs from scratch similar to what Bob Anson described. I 
added underbody detail, replaced the wheelsets with NWSL, installed 802's using 
the kadee knuckle spring. 
      Why go to all the trouble with an old Perma-Built kit??? I'm in this 
hobby to build things, and not just buy things. 

J Rustermier
--- In [email protected], Bob Anson <e2picasso@...> wrote:
>
> ok...
> 
>  Bob Anson    %~)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Thomas Baker <bakert@...>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 11:33:43 AM
> Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Re: More AF
> 
>   
> 
> 
> So that's where they came from!  About 20 years ago, I purchased six Af 
> three-bay hopper shells from a modeler in Detroit for five Dollars apiece.  
> One 
> became a CGW welded hopper, of which the company owned five.  Another became 
> a 
> regular CGW hopper, another an M&StL three-bay, and the others await their 
> fate.  
> Interestingly, that modeler also photocopied for me a Perma-Bilt catalogue.  
> He 
> said the original was in color, very interesting to see what was once out 
> there.
> 
> I also picked up from him and other vendors a few Perma-Bilt box cars.  To 
> the 
> one or two I have worked on the following modifications made them, I think, a 
> bit more prototypical:
> 
> 1. Ditch the stamped roof. It looks like nothing a steel box car usually had. 
>  
> Most steel box cars had the rectangular panel roof and later, of course, the 
> diagonal panel.
> 
> 2. Use Northeastern S-scale roof stock rather than that stamped outrage.  
> From 
> cardboard or styrene of the proper thickness, cut out rectangular panels of 
> the 
> proper width.
> 
> 3. Use Plastistruc T-sections for the stiffeners between the panels, cut them 
> to 
> the proper length, and install them at the correct intervals.  I use plans 
> photocopied from MM or even a PRS roof as a guide.
> 
> 4. I use the wood blocks for the end, but rather than use the two narrow 
> wooden 
> pieces on which the stamped roof would be mounted, I may find a popsicle 
> stick 
> or piece of wood of that thickness and then mount the Northeastern roof stock 
> on 
> that.
> 
> 5. I have been using the stamped Perma-Bilt ends but may look for ends that 
> are 
> closer to proptotype.
> 
> 6. I have not yet tried but may in the future try the Archer rivet decals to 
> get 
> greater detail for the horizontal rivets on the bottom and the top near the 
> roof.
> 
> Why take so much trouble?  Well, I like the challenge and the end product.  
> Oh, 
> and I do not use the Perma-Bilt stamped roof walk either but use an AM roof 
> walk.  You'd be surprised at the change this makes.
> 
> Tom
> 
>  
> 
> 
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> 
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