Bob, 
I missed any posts about selling conifers.
If you could send me some info, I might be able to send a little work you
way for the layout at Union Station.
Roy


on 4/11/11 2:10 PM, Bob Werre at [email protected] wrote:

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> I can pretty much back up what Ron is saying.  Like Roy Inman, we're
> vastly underemployed photographers in a business that has seen most of
> our markets dissolve never to return.  I once paid for my nearly all my
> modeling by photographing product for our manufacturers often doing a
> trade.  Since that business has gone South, I build what I have under
> the layout, since I can't spend what I don't have.  With the exception
> of Red Caboose most of my work has been done for S scale manufacturers
> and the money was pretty much sent back into the S market.
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> I've also become a manufacturer of conifer trees and thus far haven't
> had anybody on this list purchase any, while we just sent out product
> via a mail-order today.  A local hobby shop is selling my product via
> direct sales, so that keeps me in paint, couplers and magazines.  My
> wife purchased a single table at a fairly large train show some months
> back.  She made one sale for $30 which made up for the table at $30.
> Later we made considerably more at a smaller show, but new brass still
> isn't in the cards.
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> None of us really knows if the entire hobby is dying or whether we're
> just waiting for the price of oil to be de-speculated, housing to lived
> in again and the flowers to grow, but I'm still modeling as much as I can.
> 
> Bob Werre
> BobWphoto.com
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>> > I'm sorry about your project and the loss of your time and money
>> > investment. As a small manufacturer, I can tell you there are going to
>> > be disappoinments and setbacks. Ask any manufacturer, for that
>> > manufacturer ask any manufacturer on this list. We've all had our
>> > failures. That is why the successses feel so good.
>> >
>> > As for S scale dying, I don't think so, at least I can't see it in my
>> > business. No, we are not setting the world on fire, but I don't think
>> > anyone else is either. I think the great Jim Kindraka said " Scale
>> > ain't supposed to be easy", or something like that.
>> > S Scalers by and large are a hearty lot. With tens of millions
>> > unemployed or underemployed, it makes sense that discretionary
>> > spending drops, not to mention the hundreds of thousands that have
>> > already lost their homes. The good news is many are turning inward and
>> > revisiting stay at home hobbies.
>> >
>> > If you think your project is good, wait for a better time, or find
>> > different people to work with.
>> >
>> > Keep the faith, put your head down, work a little harder or find a
>> > smaller project to start with. You will succeed. Good luck.
>> >
>> > Ron Sebastian
>> > Des Plaines
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>> > --- In [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>
>> <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>,
>> > "John Degnan" <Scaler164@...> wrote:
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>>> > > For those of you who have been faithfully waiting on some news about
>> > the SAL round roof box car project I started over two years ago... I
>> > just got the final word last night from the manufacturer who was to
>> > produce it for me... and that word is simply this :
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>>> > > IT AIN'T EVER GONNA HAPPEN!!!
>>> > >
>>> > > A lot of things have led to this (including the piss-poor
>> > economy)... but the main thing, I'm sure, is that out of the 88 model
>> > sales that were promised (to ME) by modelers who initially showed an
>> > interest in this model, only HALF of those sales ever (re)materialized
>> > for the manufacturer after he took over the project. So the project
>> > kept getting set back farther and farther until more sales materialized.
>>> > >
>>> > > So be it. Now, none of us who genuinely wanted one get to have one.
>> > Not only that, I've wasted a load of money on this project and TWO
>> > YEARS worth of my time!
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks a lot, S scale!
>>> > >
>>> > > I guess I should probably give up on my Scale Gearbox Projects as
>> > well... lest I waste even more time and money on this dieing scale...
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > John Degnan
>>> > > Scaler164@...
>>> > > Disgusted to the point of... (you really don't want to know)
>>> > >
>>> > >
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