Darrell,

I once owned a modified Kinsman coach that I was told,was built by Sam 
Powell.  It had the wooden section under the window belt replaced with 
styrene and a rivet pattern.  I bought it, kept it for a few years, then 
decided I needed something else more.

I do own a set of four Kinsman passenger cars that was part of a much 
larger train built by Ron Koch.  Sometime back it was a 'best of show' 
at some convention.  I think a modified AF Pacific pulled it. there was 
a Hoods milk reefer (now sold, but in Houston), two half built coaches 
(also in Houston), plus the four I have:  coach, combine, baggage, and 
RPO.  The RPO wasn't offered by Kinsman so he probably started with a 
baggage car.  These cars were and probably still are well above the norm 
even for contest models.  For instance the trucks are similar to the 
typical wood beamed once offered by John Bortz (Kemtron) but these have 
been lengthened to adhere better to the prototype.  The coach has 
lighting, real glass, seats, and passengers.  The trucks all have chains 
attached to the bodies.  There is a red flag wrapped up in the rear 
vestibule waiting for the brakeman to use it.  The RPO had some strange 
lighting arrangement that I think must have been an attempt at 
recharging batteries from track power.  The underbody on all the cars is 
very nicely done.

I have modified the cars slightly by replacing the couplers, in a couple 
of cases going to better rolling AM or Southwind trucks.  I also, have 
removed most of the lettering in preparation to becoming SOO line 
equipment.  I need to gently restore the maroon paint and then apply the 
custom made Champ decals.  All this is waiting for a long series of 
rainy days (in the overly dry Gulf Coast) to clear up way too many projects.

Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx.com



On 7/23/11 11:46 AM, Darrell wrote:
>
> I am attempting desperately to find the time to complete a Kinsman kit 
> for another individual (presently working 60+ hours a week). These 
> kits are definitely "craftsman" kits, as there is quite a bit of care 
> needed both in parts assembly, and shaping the roof. The finished 
> model does come out very nice. I would note however that these kits 
> are for a specific group of prototypes, namely the steel underframe 
> cars built for the Boston and Maine around 1905 ish. It may be 
> possible to alter the construction of these models to represent the 
> much more common wood underframe cars from the previous century, but I 
> haven't tried it yet. The wall construction should lend itself to many 
> modifications of door/window layouts, merely needing sufficient siding 
> and trim materials. These kits are definitely "old school", and as 
> such are likely to produce a finished model only within the talent of 
> the builder. If you haven't built any sort of craftsman kit before, 
> this is NOT where I recommend you begin your education. Not rocket 
> science, but not shake the box either. BTW, I presently have about 40 
> - 45 hours invested, and likely have another 10 - 15 to go. I am not 
> restricting this model to bare minimum standards though...
>
> As to demand.. I'm sure there are already more than enough unbuilt 
> Kinsman passenger car kits sitting in closets to meet the demand of 
> the few people who actually have a desire to build them. It's just a 
> matter of connecting the two.
>
> Darrell Smith
>
> Darrell Smith
>
> --- In [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>, 
> WJJIM@... wrote:
> >
> > how long ago, when did they stop, is there any demand ???
> >
> > Jim "baking on the Keystone Main" Lyle
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 7/23/2011 11:13:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > raleigh15@... writes:
> >
> > and he notes -
> >
> >
> > Kinsman made their own.
> >
> > Raleigh in Muggiegh Maineigh...
> >
> >
> > At 11:05 AM 7/23/2011, JGG KahnSr wrote:
> > >
> > >Looking at images of some kits currently listed on ebay leads me to
> > >wonder whether LaBelle produced them for Kinsman, as the construction
> > >looks very familiar (LaBelle did the woodworking for several On3
> > >lines, sort of the way several well-known manufacturers used to make
> > >Craftsman and Kenmore goods for Sears to sell). Anyone know?
> > >
> > >Jace Kahn
> > >
> > >General Manager
> > >Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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