Would anyone have available, clean, Kinsman drawings of both of the closed & open vestibule cars that could be downloaded to compare to prototype photos of cars that have been spoken of here earlier? Jeff S.
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Pieter Roos <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > > > The Kinsman cars were sold either open or closed vestibule. The open were > (as someone noted) B&M prototype, the closed vestibule are generally close > to New Haven and (I think) NYO&W cars. > > 'S'cenery UmLimited offered resin versions with the sides, ends and > underframe all built up. They still used the wood Clerestory roof needing > the ends shaped. I think these are OOP as well, but finding some would give > a less challenging build than the original. > > Pieter E. Roos > > --- On Sun, 7/24/11, Thomas Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Thomas Baker <[email protected]> > > Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Kinsman Passenger Cars > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 8:10 AM > > I suppose it's just pipe dreaming to > > wish that LaBelle would produce a run of passenger cars in > > S. The 0 gauge cars the outfit turns out are classics, > > and the company offers either paired-window arrangements or > > the alternative. It also offers closed-vestibule > > cars. > > > > We live, however, in the age of ready-t0-run, and probably > > not enough modelers would purchase the kits to make such a > > production worthwhile for LaBelle. > > > > Tom > > ________________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > > [[email protected]] > > on behalf of JGG KahnSr [[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 12:13 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Kinsman Passenger Cars > > > > I suppose that makes sense, as the HO Ambroid wood cars > > were produced for them by Northeastern--and they were > > B&M prototype. If I am remembering the > > circumstances > > as related on the list, the head designer at Northeastern, > > Bob ____, also owned Kinsman as his own operation for S > > scale kits using Northeastern products (and apparently > > equipment). I raised the question about the Kinsman > > passenger car kits, however, as the scans I saw showed > > hollow clerestory roofs, like the LaBelle kits, and my > > memory > > (long ago) was that the HO cars had solid roofs. > > > > Jace Kahn > > > > General Manager > > Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am attempting desperately to find the time to > > complete a Kinsman kit for another individual (presently > > working 60+ hours a week). These kits are definitely > > "craftsman" kits, as there is quite a bit of care needed > > both in parts assembly, and shaping the roof. The > > finished model does come out very nice. I would note > > however that these kits are for a specific group of > > prototypes, namely the steel underframe cars built for the > > Boston and Maine around 1905 ish. It may be possible > > to alter the construction of these models to represent the > > much more common wood underframe cars from the previous > > century, but I haven't tried it yet. The wall > > construction should lend itself to many modifications of > > door/window layouts, merely needing sufficient siding and > > trim materials. These kits are definitely "old > > school", and as such are likely to produce a finished model > > only within the talent of the builder. If you haven't > > built any sort of craftsman kit before, this is NOT where I > > r! > > ecommend you begin your education. Not rocket > > science, but not shake the box either. BTW, I > > presently have about 40 - 45 hours invested, and likely have > > another 10 - 15 to go. I am not restricting this model > > to bare minimum standards though... > > > > > > As to demand.. I'm sure there are already more > > than enough unbuilt Kinsman passenger car kits sitting in > > closets to meet the demand of the few people who actually > > have a desire to build them. It's just a matter of > > connecting the two. > > > > > > Darrell Smith > > > > > > > > > > Kinsman made their own. > > > > Raleigh in Muggiegh Maineigh... > > > > > > > > > > > > At 11:05 AM 7/23/2011, JGG KahnSr wrote: > > > > > > > > > >Looking at images of some kits currently > > listed on ebay leads me to > > > > >wonder whether LaBelle produced them for > > Kinsman, as the construction > > > > >looks very familiar (LaBelle did the > > woodworking for several On3 > > > > >lines, sort of the way several well-known > > manufacturers used to make > > > > >Craftsman and Kenmore goods for Sears to > > sell). 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