The Kinsman cars were sold either open or closed vestibule. The open were (as 
someone noted) B&M prototype, the closed vestibule are generally close to New 
Haven and (I think) NYO&W cars.

'S'cenery UmLimited offered resin versions with the sides, ends and underframe 
all built up. They still used the wood Clerestory roof needing the ends shaped. 
I think these are OOP as well, but finding some would give a less challenging 
build than the original.

Pieter E. Roos


--- On Sun, 7/24/11, Thomas Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Thomas Baker <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Kinsman Passenger Cars
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 8:10 AM
> I suppose it's just pipe dreaming to
> wish that LaBelle would produce a run of passenger cars in
> S.  The 0 gauge cars the outfit turns out are classics,
> and the company offers either paired-window arrangements or
> the alternative.  It also offers closed-vestibule
> cars.  
> 
> We live, however, in the age of ready-t0-run, and probably
> not enough modelers would purchase the kits to make such a
> production worthwhile for LaBelle.
> 
> Tom
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected]
> [[email protected]]
> on behalf of JGG KahnSr [[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 12:13 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Kinsman Passenger Cars
> 
> I suppose that makes sense, as the HO Ambroid wood cars
> were produced for them by Northeastern--and they were
> B&M prototype.  If I am remembering the
> circumstances
> as related on the list, the head designer at Northeastern,
> Bob ____, also owned Kinsman as his own operation for S
> scale kits using Northeastern products (and apparently
> equipment).  I raised the question about the Kinsman
> passenger car kits, however, as the scans I saw showed
> hollow clerestory roofs, like the LaBelle kits, and my
> memory
> (long ago) was that the HO cars had solid roofs.
> 
> Jace Kahn
> 
> General Manager
> Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > I am attempting desperately to find the time to
> complete a Kinsman kit for another individual (presently
> working 60+ hours a week).  These kits are definitely
> "craftsman" kits, as there is quite a bit of care needed
> both in parts assembly, and shaping the roof.  The
> finished model does come out very nice.  I would note
> however that these kits are for a specific group of
> prototypes, namely the steel underframe cars built for the
> Boston and Maine around 1905 ish.  It may be possible
> to alter the construction of these models to represent the
> much more common wood underframe cars from the previous
> century, but I haven't tried it yet.  The wall
> construction should lend itself to many modifications of
> door/window layouts, merely needing sufficient siding and
> trim materials.  These kits are definitely "old
> school", and as such are likely to produce a finished model
> only within the talent of the builder.  If you haven't
> built any sort of craftsman kit before, this is NOT where I
> r!
>  ecommend you begin your education.  Not rocket
> science, but not shake the box either.  BTW, I
> presently have about 40 - 45 hours invested, and likely have
> another 10 - 15 to go.  I am not restricting this model
> to bare minimum standards though...
> >
> > As to demand..  I'm sure there are already more
> than enough unbuilt Kinsman passenger car kits sitting in
> closets to meet the demand of the few people who actually
> have a desire to build them.  It's just a matter of
> connecting the two.
> >
> > Darrell Smith
> 
> > >
> > > Kinsman made their own.
> > > Raleigh in Muggiegh  Maineigh...
> > >
> > >
> > > At 11:05 AM 7/23/2011, JGG KahnSr  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Looking at images of some kits currently
> listed on ebay  leads me to
> > > >wonder whether LaBelle produced them for
> Kinsman, as the  construction
> > > >looks very familiar (LaBelle did the
> woodworking for  several On3
> > > >lines, sort of the way several well-known
> manufacturers  used to make
> > > >Craftsman and Kenmore goods for Sears to
> sell). Anyone  know?
> 
> 
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