While most of us may have a preferred manufacturer or some kind of ranked list 
of the companies we would like to see products from, I doubt many of us would 
refuse to buy a nicely done product just because it was done by the "wrong" 
company. We might wait to hear a review before committing money, depending on 
the perceived reliability of the manufacturer. 

Had there been a reasonable way to convert the Lionel Flyer USRA engines to 
scale, I think most S scalers would have bought one or more (at least, those 
interested in steam engines). I know Fred Rouse of SSL&S converted one to 
scale, but I recall he felt it was too hard for a reasonable conversion kit, 
and the models were way to expensive to toss the whole drive and just use the 
boiler and tender shells. Considering the reports on the number of failed units 
returned and replaced by Lionel, maybe they should have sold off the excess 
bodies for a "reasonable" price and scrapped the failed drives - I do realize 
no company of their size today would consider such a move!

Lionel has some bad history to overcome, as the U33 project starts to look a 
whole lot like the SD-40 announced in S way back when. At least they have 
produced some new product instead of endless re-hash of the old Gilbert 
tooling. It is a pity so little of it is of use in scale.

Pieter E. Roos


--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Tom Hawley <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Brian Jackson
> Your thinking that if Lionel were to produce a scale model
> (or at least one 
> with scale wheels), it would be a good thing for S is
> correct IMO. But what 
> I think you've run into here is that for most scale S
> scalers, the idea of 
> Lionel as a potential source for scale models is a really
> alien and remote 
> concept.. . . . . . . . .
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> Which again shows the two faces of "S Gauge."  It's
> commonly called scale vs 
> tinplate, or phrased in terms of rail height, but it's not
> that simple.
> 
> Faction A says "We want some new stuff from a specific
> company (Lionel for 
> instance).
> 
> Faction B says "We'd like a new model, (an FBOX or a TBOX
> for instance), and 
> it doesn't matter which company makes it, as long as the
> model is accurate."
> 
> Tom Hawley
> http://michmod.com



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