Well, Bill, if you find them let me know; perhaps we can work something out.  I 
use them on my Ace AF conversion bolsters when I can.  Otherwise I use Kadee 
5's or the Walthers clones (so far as I can tell, there is no difference in 
size on the knuckle, just a shorter draftgear with theProtoMax.  The #5's are 
also handy for various Sn3 applications (although PBL kits sometimeslike other 
variants, such as #26's).

Jace Kahn

General Manager 
Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.






> Ironically it my extreme dislike of the #5 that was a big part of my
> decision to switch to S Scale. Back then I was all into delay coupling that
> I am not now so it really does not matter much. The 802 just WORKS.

> Using tweezers I install the centering spring in the 802 pretty easily. I
> once did a demonstration for my S club years ago assembling the 802 with no
> tools at all. I had a rather well trained right thumb that snapped the
> springs right in! I do like the SHS coupler as well because there is no
> slack action.

> For the old schoolers I had a bag of the long hose converted #5 taken off of
> cars around here somewhere. I am not sure if I still have them or threw them
> out.
> Bill Lane

                                          

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