When I worked at Precision Metalsmiths we cast in all sorts of metals. From  
Aluminum to Stelite.  Temperatures affect molds, and wax.  PM was the first to 
make any real use of plastic than wax. They took over the market on turbine 
blades.
 Wecreated stellite " needles" for high speed weaving machines. 1 1.8 " long 
with a 1 6/4 dia hole running thru it. It cut the cost of them over 80%.   The 
mold held a porcelain "thread" which created the future hole when the wax 
surrounded it..  The heat of the Stellite steel affected it so you merely 
drilled out the "thread"  residue from the steel casting.

The "tree" was coated with a higher heat resistent investment "plaster". then 
later the fask was filled with a cheaper invstment "plaster" to save money.

Heating the casting metal correctly was critical.
It is not a "basement" hobby project.

John Armstrong

  ----- Original Message ----- .

  From: Alan Lambert 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:11 AM
  Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Another Update From Sergent - Enough is 
enough!


    

  From: Alan Lambert           Fort Worth, Texas

  John,
  I used to work in an alluminium foundery and know first hand what goes into 
making molds. Ours were for a  storage tube cap that you see on  gas station 
refueling trucks where they store the hoses. Of cource these were not 
investment castings. They used them over and over, and when the order was 
filled put the molds back in storage until the next order.  How do I know, I 
helped make some of the molds.

  I think that is what the hang up is with his molds. He has to find a way to 
keep the price of the final product down and a easy way to do the castings for 
multi different parts on the same tree.
                     Alan

  From: John Degnan <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 6:13 AM
  Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Another Update From Sergent - Enough is 
enough!



    
   
  Thank you, brother S scaler Alan.  Yet another voice of logic and reason.  
Very glad you're on board.


  John Degnan
  [email protected]
  [email protected]

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Alan Lambert 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 08:10 PM
    Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Another Update From Sergent - Enough is 
enough!


    From: Alan Lambert
               Fort Worth, Texas

    John,
    I also agree with Michael.And as you have stated the problems that have 
popped up, we need to chill out and waite. Anybody that has done castings knows 
of the drawbacks that can and will happen. We all need to give Sergent a break 
and in the long run we will see something. Investment casting is not that easy 
when you are faced with what he has run into. The molds have to be changed to  
do that. He is working on that, and I for one will give him chance. You have 
helped alot also.
                 Alan


    From: John Degnan <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 6:37 PM
    Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Another Update From Sergent - Enough is 
enough!



      
    The sound of logic and reason.

    Thanks Michael.


    John Degnan
    [email protected]
    [email protected]

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Michael Ostertag 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 07:19 PM
      Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Another Update From Sergent - Enough is 
enough!

      Ok, so since I am "new" (November of 2011) to S Scale, here is my view on 
this.  I originally planned on equipping all my rolling stock and locomotives 
with sergent's couplers.  Now since they aren't currently available, I asked 
some folks if they had some they weren't going to use and received a few in the 
mail.  Now two or three pair, isn't going to make a railroad run very well.  
So....I have turned to KD's 802 in the interim.  Now once the Sergent couplers 
are available on a regular basis, I will re-equip my rolling stock and 
locomotives with the sergent couplers and put the KD's up for sale.  This to me 
is the best compromise.  If for some reason things fall completely apart at 
sergent and they don't come out at all, I'm still going to be able to run my 
railroad.  

      Michael Ostertag







  

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