Fortunately I can wait as I have no place to run anything so anything I 
get or build will sit naked of couplers untli the Sergents come out. I 
do have the patience of Job and no reason to hurry to couple anything

Carey
Carey Probst

Carey Probst

Member, M.I.T. Educational Council

S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

On 8/2/2012 7:34 PM, John Degnan wrote:
>
> Ben, and everyone else who feels the same way... that is what they 
> make SUBJECT lines for in postings. Subject lines generally imply what 
> a post is about. If you see me make a post with the name "Sergent" in 
> it, please rest assured that it will be about just that. And rest 
> assured... if you don't want to read (hear) my '/_barkings_/' in my 
> posts... please rest assured that I will NOT be offended if you simply 
> don't read it. But I will continue to post about whatever news I get 
> when I get it... and I will do so for those who *_DO_* want to hear 
> it... and there are many who do appreciate what I do. ANd it is for 
> them (and myself) that I labor... and bite my tongue... repeatedly...
> It really is that simple, folks... just don't read it if you don't 
> want to hear it.
> John Degnan
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Don't start none, and there won't be none.
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* pickycat95 <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2012 05:44 PM
>     *Subject:* {S-Scale List} Re: Another Update From Sergent - Enough
>     is enough!
>
>     In my opinion the real issue here is that there has been a long
>     history of 'bark' without any bite. I'd like to see no more bark
>     until there is something we can really sink our teeth into.
>     Ben Trousdale
>
>     --- In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>     Scaler164@... wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Fear not, Bill... I have a rather large supply of condiments to
>     go on those words of yours when the time comes for you to have to
>     start eating them. I have told Bill Lane this, and I will now
>     tell you the same thing... when a manufacturer has discovered a
>     problem with a manufacturing process, it is their responsibility
>     to fix the problem or find a better way to produce their product.Â
>     I respect and appreciate all that Frank Sergent is doing to
>     guarantee us a product worth waiting for. If you cannot, then go
>     ahead and invest in Kadee's lousy excuse for a coupler... and that
>     is exactly what you'll end up with. And then when the Sergent
>     coupler happens, you'll either decide to sell the Kadee stuff or
>     learn to be as happy with them as you can be.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Being i n S scale for... how many years has it been now, Bill
>     ?... i t seems to me that you (and everyone else in this scale)
>     would have learned by now to have  the patience of Job...
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > John Degnan
>     >
>     > Scaler164@...
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ----- Original Message -----
>     >
>     >
>     > From: "Bill Nielsen" <wrangler@...>
>     > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     > Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 3:43:02 PM
>     > Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Another Update From Sergent - Enough
>     is enough!
>     >
>     > Hi John,
>     >
>     > You are correct, we are going to get more than we dreamed, and
>     that "more" is more of the same BS from Sergent. He mentions doing
>     many shank styles, but it's funny that Kadee has managed to
>     produce all of their S, On3, and On30 products with the same
>     castings (shanks and all). Sorry, but I have developed a low
>     tolerance for BS in recent years.
>     >
>     > I am a member of both an HO and On30 modular clubs, in addition
>     to having a small S scale home layout, and I have been waiting for
>     Sergent to produce S couplers for far too long now. I had even
>     been thinking about trying them in HO, but now that is not going
>     to happen, because if I am going to commit to any new couplers, I
>     need to know that the manufacturer is also going to be committed
>     to his product (and his customers), and be a reliable source of
>     that product, which clearly Sergent is not. Kadee is and always
>     has been an example of company who is so committed, and that is
>     why they have owned the model train coupler market (in all scales)
>     for over 50 years now, while no one else has come close.
>     >
>     > Too bad, Sergent couplers seemed like a great idea, but without
>     being able to back that idea up with a reliable supply, Sergent
>     Engineering will not be getting any of my money.
>     >
>     > Bill in FtL
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > --- In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>     "John Degnan" <Scaler164@> wrote:
>     > >
>     > > Ok gang, here is the latest news on the Sergent Couplers...
>     straight from Frank today :
>     > > (Please don't read or comment if this does not interest you)
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > Â Hi John,
>     > >
>     > > Â Well, I'm sorry to say that I won't have more couplers ready
>     by convention time. I'm still struggling with the investment cast
>     products and at this point I am convinced that the S scale
>     coupler(s) will have to be investment cast because they will
>     require multiple shank styles (and probably multiple head styles
>     as well). The investment cast option will allow me to address a
>     more diverse audience (Sn3, On3/On30, plus std gauge with shank
>     styles that allow easy adaptation to existing equipment).
>     > >
>     > > Â I'm located in Knoxville which is about 100 miles north of
>     Chattanooga. I work a real job weekdays, but you are welcome to
>     stop by on Saturday the 11th perhaps. My basement shop is
>     typically a mess which I am sure you will forgive me for. I do ask
>     that you come alone. There are some things you will certainly see
>     that I do not want potential competitors to find out about until I
>     am ready.
>     > >
>     > > Â Thanks,
>     > > Â Frank
>     > >
>     > > It appears that we are going to be getting much more than I
>     ever dreamed!
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > John Degnan
>     > > Scaler164@
>     > > Scaler187@
>     > >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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