Bob... Another thought! There actually are a lot of overhead or high-angle photos of various passenger cars out there. The Red Book series by Randall (especially the P/S & ACF cars) has many of these types of shots and the various books on specific RR rolling stock usually also have additional pics. Of course, every road is different and car roofs varied by car type as well.
The Mid-Century (the vastly improved Ladd Houda line) resin parts line that Bob McCarthy carries exclusively includes a set of roof vents (3 different types). They are for P/S and ACF cars and are really very well done. There are many other types of vents that are not produced in S, however some HO and O vents do work as well. Same for our comments earlier on the underbody details. What we REALLY need is someone to provide (Bill Lane?) the ladder support grabs/brackets for the passenger car roofs. Most cars had one on either side, together with a standard grab iron above it. It's the same type of grab/bracket that was applied to the nose of many F3 & F7 A units in the 60's for washing windows, etc. I use a jig to make mine, but they are still a real pain to create, especially in mass, as an individual. Bob Hogan --- In [email protected], Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote: > > Thanks Bob, however I guess I gave the wrong impression. I had already > done the JC cars but stopped building when the AM cars came out. I did > seal my wooden roofs and used the scriber to add the seams. > > I haven't done anything to the AM car roofs yet, but was wondering if > the same procedure would be the best for that. Just like it's hard to > find overhead shots of engines, the same can be said for passenger cars > as they seem pretty boring. However many have hatches, vents, grabs. > I've noticed that my last photos of UP business/railfan cars have some > type of running boards that I don't think was original. > > I have a stash of the grabs, ladder rests, and vents, but the seams > along with those 'pop rivet' impressions and rain streaks would > certainly add some character to those cars. In most years those car > sides were kept clean, but the roofs were often ignored. > > Bob Werre > > > > > > Bob... > > > > For the JC and Chester cars I seal the milled wood roof with multiple > > coats of sanding sealer (or just good old fashioned shelac), sanding > > between coats as usual. It usually takes 4-6 coats to do the job. I > > have a piece of 1/32" thick brass that is of the proper width and > > which I have bent to the contour of the roof. I use it together with a > > dull #11 Xacto blade to scribe the joint lines after first sealing the > > roofs. This method leaves a fairly clean line. I've found that it is > > almost impossible to totally get rid of the wood grain on these milled > > roof pieces, although Bob McCarthy claims to have a product he uses > > for his antique furniture refinishing that does the job. Earl Henry > > has tried it as well. The supply of old JC & Chester kits must be > > really diminished these days as I saw nary a single kit at the NASG > > this year. That was a first for me. > > > > Bob Hogan > > > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>, Bob > > Werre <bob@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Bob and Dan for those underbody shots. No wonder why even the > > > manufacturers shy away from putting all that 'stuff' under there. And > > > no wonder why the RR's didn't do a really good job of keeping those > > cars > > > up in the latter years. > > > > > > Between listening to the convention speeches, waiting for paint to dry > > > on a caboose roof I dug out my old JC streamlined passenger cars. I had > > > started all four of them and some were pretty far along. One thing I > > > did attempt was to mimic the roof seams. Since the JC car roofs' were > > > wood, I used a scriber with decent results. The edges were a bit ragged > > > but if you've ever been close to those seams those builders included > > > some bumps and puckers too. Some of the cars also seem to exhibit what > > > appear to be pop-rivets. What are all you folks using? > > > > > > Bob Werre > > > PhotoTraxx > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/4/12 4:40 PM, adguytrains wrote: > > > > > > > > I have created a new album in the Photos Section, "Bob's Building > > > > Passenger cars", with the construction photos I used in the NASG > > > > Clinic presentation. These should be of help as you construct the > > > > various Supply Car kits. Included are several photos of underbody > > > > parts (to complement the underbody album) in position on the cars, > > > > plus a look at how to create a BUDD dome car. > > > > > > > > The "Bob's ACF, P/S & BUDD Cars" section has been updated with photos > > > > of NYC, SR and SAL recently completed cars. Again, my hope is that > > > > these will assist you in building your own models. > > > > > > > > I have also added a photo of the prototype 41-N-11 passenger car > > truck > > > > to better illustrate how to apply the BTS brass detail parts to > > the AM > > > > trucks. This photo is posted in the underbody details album. The > > photo > > > > was taken on our NASG trip and is of a Blue Ridge Scenic RR car. > > > > > > > > Bob Hogan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
