Hi Jack and Jim --

Thanks to both for the info.   The SLE&P has a rather sizable “Fast Mail and 
Express” train that is currently hauled by three ALCo PAs.   A C&EI car would 
probably make a standout consist with the orange paint --  most of the express 
cars, including SP, RI,WP, PRR, and of course the SLE&P, are all a variation of 
Pullman Green except the PRR Tuscan.    I have all the RPCyclopedias and will 
take a look.   Thanks for the reference.   

As an FYI, the latest Railway Prototype Cyclopedia (25) is close to shipping 
right now.   If you order direct and send money with the order, it’s $24.00 
post paid.    I think Oct 20 is the deadline for them to receive the money.    
For those who don’t have these things, they are a very convenient resource to 
find the sort of thing we are talking about.   Unfortunately, most of the early 
ones are out of print, but can sometimes be found at book sellers.

Bill Winans
Prescott Valley, AZ
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M&E Trains (mail and express) are a category all their own and interesting to 
model... The C&EI car is a class "Bx" car, defined as "A box car (new, rebuilt 
or converted) constructed and equipped to render it suitable for passenger 
train 

service ..."

They were used a lot to haul mail that had already been sorted to a 
destination. 

Sometimes that could be in a regular passenger train consist and other times in 
dedicated M&E trains that ran on passenger schedules – think of the "Fast 
Mail"... In the case of the C&EI cars, mail storage service was probably to 
cities on the line. They could also carry express packages for the post office 
or on contract to REA, although less later. I have at least one reference to a 
C&EI express box car in a 44-car Pennsy M&E train from NYC to Philadelphia on 
December 22, 1965; all mail and packages as part of that year's Christmas rush. 

If you want to dig further, RMC did a two-part article on head end cars in 
April 

and May 1992. There is also a book with the highly original title of "Moving 
Mail and Express by Rail" (E. M. DeRouin, Pixels Publishing, 2007). I should 
warn you though; the book is a research tool - full of charts, documents, train 
movements and consists for M&E train geeks - like me...! <G>

Jim Kindraka
Plymouth, WI
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Hi Jim,

Thanks for your reply.

I recall the RMC articles. I probably have them stashed somewhere. Looks like I 
ought to track down DeRouin's book. I also have the articles on BX Express Box 
Cars in Railway Prototype Cyclopedia Vols. 6 & 8. C&EI #1 is pictured in Vol. 6 
and #2-5 in Vol. 8. I wish I had some sightings of these cars circa 1950 in the 
Southeast. They probably made it down here, but I'd like to see for myself. I'm 
thinking mail storage would be the most likely use, but maybe C&EI bought them 
for specific traffic.

Jack Wyatt


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