#17898: Removal of wrong stopgap
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       Reporter:  aschilling         |        Owner:
           Type:  defect             |       Status:  needs_info
       Priority:  major              |    Milestone:  sage-6.6
      Component:  combinatorics      |   Resolution:
       Keywords:  stopgap,           |    Merged in:
  partitions                         |    Reviewers:  Travis Scrimshaw
        Authors:  Anne Schilling     |  Work issues:
Report Upstream:  N/A                |       Commit:
         Branch:                     |  2f7a90d8419ca8d2202b3cb31290e58194f666e3
  public/combinat/fix_bad_stopgap-17898|     Stopgaps:
   Dependencies:                     |
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Changes (by ncohen):

 * status:  needs_review => needs_info


Comment:

 Hello Travis,

 Your current branch removes the stopgap in all cases, despite not properly
 checking all input (which I do not think can be done). Jeroen and I (if I
 did not misunderstand his position) stand for something like that:

 1) If the set of parameters satisfy constraints for which we know that
 `IntegerListsLex` works, then do the job without warning
 2) Otherwise, raise a warning

 This is the safest path, as we have examples of what you would call
 bad/misleading input that should not be accepted by this function.

 If I understand the intent behind your patch, you believe that
 `IntegerListsLex` is used correctly by all of Sage's functions, and that
 we are only at risk when users call it directly, with possibly wrong
 input. Thus only the 'public' version of `IntegerListsLex` will raise the
 stopgap, and all internal calls will be silent. I believe that it is
 dangerous too, for many user-exposed functions call `IntegerListsLex`
 (and so bypass `IntegerListsLexPublic`), and may also return wrong output.
 I am not sure that all internal calls to `IntegerListsLex` are safe and
 checked either.

 To answer one of your earlier question, I personally did not implement
 this conditional stopgap myself because I do not know any restriction of
 the parameters for which I could swear that only trustworthy results will
 ever be returned. If you know such a combination and find a reviewer who
 double-checks it, however, that is a good way out for this ticket.

 Nathann

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