Hi Budzer/Ashley,Its time I reply to the load of bull that is being put up
by you guy's on the Saligao-net..
First and foremost let me get what questions Budzer asked answered.:
1. I am not the 'protector' as you put it, but in my capacity as the
attorney of the Communidade
of Saligao, I am obligated to act as the 'custodian' of all communidade
land
within Saligao, both tenanted and untenanted. The present land in
question which is
outside the compound wall of the Government Primary School, is a part of
the entire 'bandh'
that starts at the junction and goes up to the bus stop near "Casa
Tipri".
2. The *matter of these Gaddo's (kiosk's) was decided by the general body of
the Saligao*
* Communidade,* and on my recommendation, it was decided after due
deliberations, that
the managing committee would be free to allot 1.5m X 2m fixed kiosk
spaces to gauncar's
and other deserving parties who apply, on Communidade 'bandhs'
adjoining the main roads,
and near the Seminary/Industrial Estate and the Government Primary
school and the
area near the Mollembhat communidade property. This was to be done at
the sole discretion
of the managing committee, on a 'first apply- first get' basis. The
Attorney as usual has the
final say in case of dispute (which we did not have).. I HOWEVER WILL
NOT MAKE PUBLIC,
HOW AND WHY, WE DECIDED ON DOING THIS (giving the permissions for
Kiosk's), but
please rest assured that the decision was taken in the best interest of
Saligao and the
Communidade. For Years gaddo's have been opeation on various spots in
Saligao on the
land belonging to the Communidade, but not a single paisa in revenue
was made by the
Communidade. Several people who had earned the right to pluck the
coconut trees, because
they had bid and won auction rights have tried to usurp these bandhs of
the communidade
by claiming rights as tenants. The same goes to Atmaram Parulekar
(Anil's father) who is
claiming the stretch of land in question near the "AULA" belongs to
him. When I pointed out to
Anil that he cannot be a tenant as there is not a single coconut tree
there, he was forced to
come and take a N.O.C from us and pay the licence fee for the period of
11 months.
3. Four (4) N.O.C's were given by the communidade for this stretch outside
the school. The
reason that the kiosk's have reached close to the intersection, is
because Anil threatened
them and told them not to come close. One person's kiosk was forcibly
removed and thrown in
Panchayat compound. Only after the Police threatened strict action, did
Anil & co. bring it back
and put it in place.
I hope this answers you, if not please take the time to come and meet me on
Wednesday after 10.30 am
and I shall be glad to enlighten you further!
Now to Ashley's queries....
1. The communidade of Saligao has always been the main benefactor of the
poor people
of Saligao, giving fields, land, auctions etc at low prices to those who
want to earn a
sincere buck. If you look around and come to the communidade, I will be
glad to show
you details. this is another such deed. It was decided to fix the rent
at such a low amount,
to enable the person concerned to get a decent income. Our land was
anyway lying there
with others charging money to run small mobile carts etc. The lease
being of temporary
nature for only 11 months, we found it okay and we had decided that we
would review the
same the following year....
2. You are going off on a tangent here and I do not want to say anything
further on this point.
3. The structure which you say are permanent are in reality (as can be seen
by all) tin and
plastic/partly G.I. angle structures, and can be lifted and moved
whenever necessary. The
Cement used by them is illegal, but explanation given is that it is
done to avoid robbery of
the same and to prevent water damage.
4. I have already said why the kiosk's have come so close to the
intersection. It was clearly
decided that the road widening would not take place any more that what
is being done.
This is private land of the communidade and the PWD has to acquire the
land before any
further widening. We however have let it pass as it is in the interest
of the people to have
better roads. We understand progress and development, but we also know
that the Government
or whichever department of it want land, they ask and acquire..!! In
the present case, right
from Parra-Saligao boundary the road has been widened on both sides
without seeking our
permission or acquiring it to the best of our knowledge. The major
part of the bandhs on both
the sides (which once had two long rows of coconut trees growing on
it) of the road have
been leveled, and now pose danger to the remaining coconut trees, as
their roots have become
weak and in some cases cut. What road widening more are you talking
of?? *did we not in the*
* new draft regional plan say and propose the road to be left
untouched? *
*5. Interest of the village should take priority I agree, but PLEASE DO
NOT TAKE DECISIONS *
* FOR THE ENTIRE VILLAGE based on the thinking of a few. There are
elected bodies in*
* our village who have earned the right to do so. *
*Please do come and visit the communidade Ashley, all your queries will be
answered.*
*It would be right to first ask, and only when everything is known, post the
same on the net.*
*
*
with kind regards.
Austin Da Gama
Attorney of the Communidade of Saligao.
*
*
*
*
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Ashley Delaney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Budzer...,
> >
> > Isn't this strip outside the school Communidade land? What is Austy's
> > take on this? As the Attorney for the Communidade he is supposed to be
>
> Yesit is on communidade land. as i had mentioned before, Anil used to be
> the tenant of the land before it reverted back to the communidade.
>
> > the "protector" of Saligao Communidade lands. Why is he continuing to
> > give permission or NOC's to the people erecting these Gaddos. If
> > permission hasn't been granted has action been initiated against the
> > violators?
> Austy has given permission to the gaddo's. when i called him up to ask
> him why permission was given, inspite of the risks involved, logistial
> clases etc, austy differed with me saying
>
> 1) noone was making anything in the deal.. the commmuindade is geting a
> miserly sun of Rs 1850/- as rent per year from each gaddo
> 2) the land is given out to whoever asked the communidade for the space.
> he told me if i wnated ven i could ask for the space and permission
> would be given..
>
>
> while i respect his answers.. i ahve some of my own questions actually
>
> 1) Why such a small sum of money as rent if at all rent? dont u know a
> small room tucked somewhere deep inside the vilage is 3000/- a month?
>
> 2) what is more relevant is that "if u ask, you get" supose someone asks
> the panchaet for seting up a gaddo in the middel of the rd, will they
> give? the answer is NO. we shd not bow to wims and fancies... okie don
> deprive the people of heir livelehood. but cant we shit them elewhere
> where it doesnt pose a risk?
> 3) it makes no sence why permissoin is given to build a permanant
> structue when the contract is only for 11 months. other places that i'm
> aware off, permission is always given ONLY for movevebale on wheels
> structures that can be wheeled away once the bussiness is over.
>
> why keep them people permission to build a permanant structure in a
> place, that is
> 1) already kept as provision for rd widening as a 10 meter rd from the
> existing 5 meter
> 2) why give it on a place where for the gram sabha a proposal was made
> to make this ame area into a footpath and nothing has been done?
> 3) why give it to an area where since it lies just 4 meters from a major
> intersection of two major district roads, it forms a major trafic risk
> 3) why give it in an area where visability from soem sides is blocked by
> the "aulla" where oncoming traffic cannot see the hazzard there?
> 4) why give it in an area where there is a proposal to make a trafic
> island also. wont this cause a hindurance to the rd widening than?
>
> 4) also for the life of me i cannot understand still how a permant
> sturcture came up when rd rules state that a permant structure CANNOT
> come up near the rd without maintaining the proper setbacks. has any
> setback been kept for the same???
>
> while as a memebr of the communidade i am looking at its interests, i
> also see the interest of the villae which i think take a higher priority
>
> i rest my case..
>
> Ashley
>
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