Dear Maurice & Ashley,
this is the last time I am going to get into this debate on the net. I
cannot leave these few points without
saying what has to be saiud:
1. Maurice, sometimes we intelligent humans behave like 'horses' who are
made to look only ahead , with their side vision
blocked... I do not understand why, but somehow you refuse to accept the
fact that NOC's issued by us have to be
granted permission by the Village Panchayat. They approve the
applications at the monthly meeting and if the permission
is granted, they charge a fee. *Our NOC's are given subject to Panchayat
approval.* All NOC's given by the
Communidade are first passed by the General body of the Communidade and
only then given. the NOC's are all
"CONDITIONAL" and one of the conditions is Village Panchayat approval
before any business is started/structure built. I
do not have to hide anything from anybody.
2. Sad it is, how we take up for our buddies, no matter what the truth is! *For
your kind information the Cottula road has been*
a *priority with many of us much before You, Joe, Darryl and some others
were even in this Village.* Check the Panchayat
records. The first time this road was proposed for widening was *a**lmost
38 years ago*. This was done during the tenure of
Mr. Jose Cordeiro as Sarpanch and when the Cottula ward member was Mr.
Milagrin Pinto. A road conforming to the present
cottula road alignment was proposed, physically measured and marked and
sent to the Government for completing. The
then Government however did not take up the work, as they said they had
no funds. Much later, as I had said in my earlier
posts, the same was taken up by Dr. Wilfred D' Souza (around 1994),
along with the Grande Morod bypass. This to did not
materialize as the starting and part of the road in Goletem was blocked
by some people with a stay order. There was some
commotion at the Gram Sabha then, and the road was 'kept pending - to
be taken up when resolved' (which never happened).
Now that there was chance to get it widened and improved , do you guy's
really expect us to just let it go ? Do any of you
actually use that road. THE ROAD WORK WHICH WAS STOPPED BY THE SARPANCH
ON COMPLAINTS MADE BY MR.
JOE D' SOUZA AND OTHERS HAS NOW RESTARTED. This was done at the request
of the people from this ward of Cottula,
who all signed a written 'appeal', made by me and forwarded to the
Village Panchayat. Dr. Willy is also one of the signatories
to this,(probably the only one who does not use this road regularly) and
*All 47 others are residents of Cottula and use this *
* road frequently. *
*3. The road has been left like this because first, there was this 'stop
work' order from the Sarpanch, which later the Village *
* Panchayat body overruled at their last two meetings. The second reason
is that the mud and the filling put, has to really*
* settle-down, so that the air pockets and hollow places get filled up.
This will happen naturally with the rains and I am sure*
* the work should re-start soon. By the way this road now that it is
widened, will also help in the parking rush that takes place*
* during Church feast and other occassions.. *
4. This road was to be marked as a wide 6 meter road and I had personally
told Ashley to do so at the Cottulas DR plan meeting,
which people from Cottula had attended and was held atop of the Gym and
Library of El Shaddai, near Victory House. I had
also told it many times earlier to Ashley that that road was to be
widened. I absolutely stand by the NOC's given by the
Communidade. The project of the buliders (Reira Constructions) was
already over and the road if not widened would not have
been usable for pedestrian traffic later ...!
5. I do not remember when it was that I walked out and with regard to
what..?? what was the issue?? Also you mention, Keith,
Ashley and yourself taking up issues. By all means do so - do not shirk
and let certain things pass when there is a possibility
of those people defending themselves in whatever way they can. Here
these people cannot speak for themselves (the Gaddo
people) and are at the mercy of having to put up with whatever is
dished out to them...even otherwise it does not really matter.
6. I was among the first to reach Ashley's side (within 7 minutes after he
called me) and I took up this issue with some people
who had intentions of taking this further..! I admire Ashley's guts and
courage to do what he has done., but would advise him
and anyone else (in future) to file a police complaint and get
protection before doing anything. Safety should be taken care
of first as the Government will not help in these matters...!
Please lets cut this debate. Enough group-ism we have in the village and wwe
do not require any further factions.
with regards
Austin
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Ashley Delaney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Austy
>
> been a bit busy so sending this reponse delayed.
>
> > and Ashley and the other gauncars present were briefed, and according to
> > what was discussed, a consensus was reached,
> > which was part of our earlier N.O.C's. Please get Ashley to brief you...1
>
> bud, will call u up this evening and update u in case u dont get it, but
> aparantly the gaunkars have decided about a year or so ago to give the
> bandh out for people to conduct trade as they were ilegally occupiing
> the bandh... alwyn.. evn that guy govindh who was there before was
> illegally occupying land which did not belong to him!!!
>
> also the gaunkars have made it clear that the temporary licences which
> have been issued were given ONLY with the provision that the gaddos
> would be moved intot he new market complex in whatsoever lifetime that
> may come up :-(
>
> i have asked the communidade to stop issuing more licensaes though which
> austy readly complied with. he also did admit to me that yes it would
> pose a trafic hazzard and yes the last gaddo which has been errected and
> not yet opened could indeed pose a problem in the future..
>
> however let me make it clear that as it was in informal discussion no
> action could be taken due to lack of quorum for the communidade meeting.
>
>
>
> > compassion for the poor is not for you to appreciate or otherwise,
> > and I do not require any certificate or permission from
> > you to do what I do..! At the moment nothing needs to conform to the
> > new draft regional plan. Agreed that it is a exercise
> > by the whole village, but whether it will be implemented as per what
> > we forwarded is to be seen. The Sarpanch had not
> > signed in spite of repeated request was known to all.
>
> WHAT? this is nonsense.. austy this is really laughable coming from you.
> what do u mean nothing needs to conform to the plan untill it is approved?
>
> let me put it to you in builder terms that u may understand
>
> if u start building a garage while the architect has made plans for a
> swimming pool in the same place, when the plan DOES go thru will u THAN
> only pull down the garage and start digging a hole?
>
> doing somehting which is against planning is totally unacceptable and
> against public interest.. i'm sorry i do not agree with the statement above
>
>
> > I am also not trying to push the blame onto the panchayat, but
> > this is the way things work. NOC's are sought from us
> > the Village Panchayat many times to do improvements and developments
> > in the village, (which we give or reject), but if
> > the work has to be done/approval required from higher Government
> > departments, our NOC's are forwarded to them by the
> > panchayat, and then it is the Government departments call, whether
> > to approve/give permission or not. Here the Village
> > panchayat being the final approving/licensing body, they have to
> > decide whether to grant permission or not.
>
> but isnt the order of getting permission being FIRST going to you'll for
> NOCs and THAN only gogin tot he panchayet? that means in the future we
> CAN nip things like this in the bud before it even reaches the
> panchayet.... :-)
>
> T
> >
> > ....We cannot compare Saligao and Panjim. I am not getting into a debate
> > on this. Once again please check with Ashley the
> > future plans for these "kiosk's". Again you allege "new NOC's" ???
> >
>
> BUT we can... panjim is on its way to being a planned town... slaigao
> while we had started to be on its way to a planned town u have
> categorically said that we do not ned to follow a plan? what was the use
> of the whole RP exercise? a waste of time???
>
>
>
>
> i'm a bit taken aback from this mail austy.. u seem to have backtracked
> on the RP a bit
>
> Ashley
>
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