People migrate for various reasons.....not necessarily to run away from problems that need to be solved. If the people directly involved with the situation/s at hand require the support of people who have migrated, I think they just have to ask for it, and I can't see 'the migrated' refusing to help. However, my point is that when you are physically removed from a situation, it is virtually impossible to initiate any kind of action to bring about change.
Patsy ________________________________ From: Christopher Desouza <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 9:26:10 PM Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Action Litargic it is, not like the old days where everyone was involved. We can only blame ourselves for it. Instead of improving it, we chose to migrate. Solutions got to come from the ground up. The locals have our support. It all starts with unity!!! I know something started to come together to help the kids with discussions going on the net, but then it was taken off net. Rico do you know what happened to that set up?? Seriously like people everywhere, people are trying to survive and do not having the time or energy or inclination to question authorities. Dileep I agree that side walks may be the best idea but it will not happen. We got to battle the crooks who have taken over the village panchayat and their henchmen. Regards Chris D in SF --- On Thu, 6/23/11, Patricia Nazareth <[email protected]> wrote: >From: Patricia Nazareth <[email protected]> >Subject: [SALIGAONET] Action >To: [email protected] >Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 8:54 AM > > > >The Saligao I knew way back when (in the days I lived there) was best known >for >it's action.....more action and less talk! Seems like things have certainly >changed since then. To my mind, it is the obvious responsibility of people >who >physically live there to 'mobilize action', as Sanjeev rightly says. For the >rest of us, who are physically removed from the situation, it's just more >talk.....unless it involves something like signing a petition. It appears >that >the local residents are all too busy with their own life and their own >priorities to care about anyone else. Personal tragedies shouldn't be our >only >motivation to wake up and do something, but unfortunately that appears to be >how >it is in Saligao. Correct me if I'm wrong. > >Patsy > > > ________________________________ From: Sanjeev Trivedi <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 5:19:11 AM >Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Re: Fwd: Help needed for prayers > >Well said , Keith. > > >Sadly, Saligaonet is reduced to a 'greetings and condolences' bulletin board. > > >I hope the points in your message hit home, and meaningful discussions and >actions emanate from it. Unlike my posting several months ago, where I had >listed several points that could be worked upon to generally uplift Saligao >and >its people. I barely got one or two acknowledgements , let alone discussions. > > >I suggest we physically mobilize a discussion and movement on this issue. > > >Sanjeev > > > > > > >On 23-Jun-2011, at 2:11 PM, keith dsouza wrote: > >What has happened is such a shame. Last year, when a few of us objected to the >many gadda's that were coming up with the consent of the the Panchayat and >Communidade no one supported us. > >> >> >>A lot of people chose to sit on the fence. Its about time, we realized that >>we >>need to wake up and make some noise. More and more gadda's and encroachments >>are >>being allowed to come up and more and more people are going to be knocked >>down >>and even killed. By shying away from the reality we are only going to lose >>and >>hurt more and more people that walk on those roads every day. >> >> >>We should consider ourselves, as responsible as that bus driver for what has >>happened. By choice we shy away from confronting our elected members and this >>is >>the problem. They take all of us for granted and do what ever it takes to >>create >>an opportunity for making money and creating a vote bank. The state of >>affairs >>are so poor that for elected members, lives of people are not even worth >>considering. How can we just sit around and do nothing? >> >> >>Keith D'Souza. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On 22 June 2011 06:24, dilip dacruz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>It's worthwhile reflecting on the complete lack of pavements/sidewalks in the >>village (India as a whole). A study from North Carolina is the one commonly >>referred to. Here's a Wiki excerpt on the study that excluded people knocked >>over crossing the road: >>> >>>Sidewalk presence had a risk ratio of 0.118, which means that the likelihood >>>of >>>a crash on a road with a paved sidewalk was 88.2 percent lower than one >>>without >>>a sidewalk. “This should not be interpreted to mean that installing >>>sidewalks >>>would necessarily reduce the likelihood of pedestrian/motor vehicle crashes >>>by >>>88.2 percent in all situations. However, the presence of a sidewalk clearly >>>has >>>a strong beneficial effect of reducing the risk of a ‘walking along roadway’ >>>pedestrian/motor vehicle crash.” >>> >>> >>>Mervyn mentions a list of pedestrians killed or maimed - what a tragedy, >>>each of >>>them. All for the need of a couple of hundred unobstructed paving slabs. >>> >>>[email protected] >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:33:06 -0700 >>>From: [email protected] >>>Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Re: Fwd: Help needed for prayers >>>To: [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>>Gregory, >>> >>> >>>I can't place you actually but we will offer special prayers at our church >>>here >>>for your sister-in-law's speedy recovery. Our parish priest has healing >>>powers >>>and I'm sure his prayers will help. >>>These accidents are a repeat fixture in Goa. My Dad was knocked down, my >>>cousin >>>etc etc..Its really a matter of concern. >>>Where I live its the same story. Roadhogs everywhere. >>> >>> >>>Merwyn Sequeira >>>Philippines >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ From: saugoncho kolo <[email protected]> >>>To: Saligao-Net <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:22 AM >>>Subject: [SALIGAONET] Re: Fwd: Help needed for prayers >>> >>>Thank You all for your get well wishesand prayers..She's better today >>>and showing signs of progress. She has started gettting sensation in >>>her feet now and can feel someone touching her at her toes. thats good >>>progress and the docs too are happy about the progress, nevertheless >>>keep praying for her speeddy recovery as it is only prayers and the >>>divine intervention which can bring her back to normal self >>>Take care and God bless >>> >>>On Jun 18, 10:41 pm, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك >>>نورونيا <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> A note from Gregory. Please pass on ... FN >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: GREGORY GODINHO <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 18 June 2011 23:01 >>>> Subject: Help needed for prayers >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> >>>> Hi Rico, >>>> I needed a little help from you to pass on the message to all those >>>> who do not know!!! >>>> On the 16th of June my sister in law Connie ( Mario's wife) was going >>>> to attend the 7.00 am mass at our church as it was her b'day , was >>>> knocked down by a speeding bus as she was walking on the side road >>>> near the market(just before the speed breaker), and the driver sped >>>> away. >>>> She was admitted in hospital where she is still in ICUwith a severe back >>>>injury. >>>> All we need is please pray for her speedy recovery and that she may be >>>> back on her feet. >>>> Thank you and >>>> God bless you all >>>> >>>> Gregory Godinho >>>> Donvaddo, Saligao >>>> Bardez Goa--403511, >>>> Mob: +91 9049539726- Hide quoted text - >>>> >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> >>>-- >>>Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >>>To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>To unsubscribe email [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >>>To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>To unsubscribe email [email protected] >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >>>To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>To unsubscribe email [email protected] >>> >> >> >>-- >>Keith D'Souza >>Goa, India. >># 91 982 384 7474 >> >> >>-- >>Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>To unsubscribe email [email protected] >> >-- >Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >To unsubscribe email [email protected] >-- >Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >To unsubscribe email [email protected] > -- Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe email [email protected] -- Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe email [email protected]
