Very well said, Maurice! And not at all a ramble.....I think you gave all of us (who are interested in knowing what's really happening in Saligao) an excellent 'heads up' with this very succinctly written piece, incorporating all the pertinent details. The information regarding Pilerne's success is particularly reassuring. If one village (and a neighbouring one at that) has demonstrated success, Saligao can most certainly do it, too. Perhaps you won't need me to make this suggestion, and it may be something you have already thought about - but as they say, 'if you want to accomplish something, learn from someone who has already achieved success in that area'....in this case Pilerne. It may be a wise move to physically meet with those who actively 'overthrew' unhealthy leadership (for want of a better way to say it,) and find out exactly how they went about it. Even if a small but dynamic group of people, the names of whom you have mentioned, get together and pose a strong united front to the crooked leadership in the village, I think it should work. The reason why many people (anywhere in the world) prefer to sit on the fence with regard to any controversial issue, is because they fear their own back if they join the opposition. This is a sad but true fact, too. However, if the people in Saligao realize that if the group fighting for justice keeps growing, you will obviously be in the majority, and be able to do what's right for the village ALWAYS, without furthering your own agenda. Politics is, unfortunately, a filthy game anywhere in the world. And as you rightly say, people who join this game, even with the very best and cleanest of intentions almost always get dragged down into the mire. People always have a better hope of fighting corruption as an independent body, than hoping to fight it from within.
I really do hope to hear some good news soon, with regard to success in your mission. Patsy ________________________________ From: Christopher Desouza <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 8:50:03 PM Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Re: Roads, footpaths, pavements, gaddas Hey Maurice & all on the Saligaonet. Being originally from Pilerne, I am astounded at the ability of their forum to put a stop to these sort of activities. Maybe it is time to network with Pilerne and understand what made them successful. Regards Chris --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Maurice Britto <[email protected]> wrote: >From: Maurice Britto <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Re: Roads, footpaths, pavements, gaddas >To: [email protected] >Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 1:09 AM > > >Well said Keith. > >I know this is late, but better late than never. This is not meant to be an "I >told you so" or a finger pointer, but a sincere wake up call to action. How >many >more death do we have to witness in the village before we say enough is >enough. >When this issue was first brought up about the Gaddos set up at the most >dangerous intersection of Saligao on Communidade land and the fact that the >Communidade was the first line of defense to protect the village, we were >accused of being eliteist, taking the food out of the mouth of the 'poor' who >were merely trying to eke out a living. All we were asking for was for the >shoulders of the road be maintained for foot traffic and the gaddos moved to >an >area designated for expansion of the market, an area already planned for. The >then Communidade committee continued to issue NOC's, transferred the onus on >to >the Panchayatt, and continued to issue more NOC's and licenses...!!!???? Now >control of the communidade has moved into the hands of a new committee and >investigations into illegalities and corruption, either true or untrue >with claims and counter claims have brought the operation of the village >Communidade to a standstill. The matter is in court and nothing can be done on >revoking the licenses of these now "grouted" Gaddos. The politicians have won >again and we the villagers continue to twiddle our thumbs complaining. > > >At the time of the exercise of the Regional Plan, the villagers took the stand >that NO licenses, NOC's or Occupancy certificates would be issued unless the >proper infrastructure was in place. Yet, we cannot garner support in >opposition to monstrous Commercial hotel projects coming up in Salmona and >Nigvaddo under the guise of "renovations". Commercial projects, and mega >housing >projects coming up in Grand Morod, Pequen Morod and near the West End. >Unplanned >developement that will have severe impact upon water resources, electricity, >garbage, more cars on roads that are not even 3 mtrs wide in some instances, >no >parking facilities planned for, within the complexes, not to mention the >sudden change in the dynamic of the vote bank with all these additional people >moving in. This will never allow for Saligaonkars to control what happens >in the >village if we don't act now. > >The lack of support for just causes is alarming. Illegalities, when exposed, >are >quickly swept under the rug and we take the "not my problem" attitude. >Upstanding individuals who were respected and given positions of power >because we thought of them as incorruptible have perpetrated their own >illegalities and hence cannot take a stand and are led..... sorry, dragged >around by our Panchayatt members like cattle to the fields. We keep trying to >put out fires constantly, rather than forming a united front with a "plan of >action" to fight the menace. The regular, Keith, Ashley, Domnic, Sanjeev, >Savio, Diego, Mario Masc, Ritu, Dean/Alice and the Consumer cell are the >constantly maligned "trouble makers" who oppose "dew-elopment"(sic), but with >busy schedules and business to run with absolutely no support, there is only >so >much that these few can do. > > >Rico, we need to use this forum to come up with an actionable plan, with as >much >participation as possible with letters to the MLA's, the CM, the TCP, the >press.... whatever we can come up with to expose the illegalities and effect >change if possible. If the Pilerne Forum can do it and bring illegalities to a >grinding halt in their village, I don't see why we cant. As tacit observers we >are all responsible for the continued destruction of the village and what is >occurring on our roads. > > >This sounds like a bit of a ramble but it comes from the sheer helplessness >that >one feels when one sees the constant rot enveloping the village. > > >Maurice > > > > > >--- On Thu, 6/23/11, Patricia Nazareth <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>From: Patricia Nazareth <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Re: Roads, footpaths, pavements, gaddas >>To: [email protected] >>Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 11:56 AM >> >> >> >> >>I've echoed these exact same sentiments in the response I just sent to S-Net >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: ANNETTE D'SOUZA <[email protected]> >>To: Saligaon Foxy news <[email protected]> >>Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 6:00:53 AM >>Subject: RE: [SALIGAONET] Re: Roads, footpaths, pavements, gaddas >> >> >> >>Well! this has been an ongoing problem for several years...started with the >>Chowg-M road coming into being..though was not so bad as now. Some on this >>forum were probably not born then or just born...... hmm! >> >>So who listened/listens to a few anyway? People in high places, medium >>places, >>& low places.... have come & gone!!! >> >> >>Been there, done, did, objected......no joy! >> >>Retired since long from the stagnant scene. >> >>All the best! ........resurrecting, reviving, regurgitating, >rehandling........ >> >>Sad about the Saliganvkars & others being injured....... >> >>Sanjeev, - "greetings and condolences" within frame & if relevant to Saligao >>& >>Saliganvkars are ok I guess! Your para caught my attention for a second since >>it >>was my pet "grouch" & that of my dad for a long time - no feedback, no >>support, >>no unity.......now of course my email is self-explanatory. But I wish you & >>everybody else - All the best in your every endeavour! >> >> >>Prayers only. >>Annette >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Re: Fwd: Help needed for prayers >>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:49:11 +0530 >>To: [email protected] >> >>Well said , Keith. >> >> >>Sadly, Saligaonet is reduced to a 'greetings and condolences' bulletin board. >> >> >>I hope the points in your message hit home, and meaningful discussions and >>actions emanate from it. Unlike my posting several months ago, where I had >>listed several points that could be worked upon to generally uplift Saligao >>and >>its people. I barely got one or two acknowledgements , let alone >>discussions. >> >> >>I suggest we physically mobilize a discussion and movement on this issue. >> >> >>Sanjeev >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On 23-Jun-2011, at 2:11 PM, keith dsouza wrote: >> >>What has happened is such a shame. Last year, when a few of us objected to >>the >>many gadda's that were coming up with the consent of the the Panchayat and >>Communidade no one supported us. >> >>> >>> >>>A lot of people chose to sit on the fence. Its about time, we realized that >>>we >>>need to wake up and make some noise. More and more gadda's and encroachments >>>are >>>being allowed to come up and more and more people are going to be knocked >>>down >>>and even killed. By shying away from the reality we are only going to lose >>>and >>>hurt more and more people that walk on those roads every day. >>> >>> >>>We should consider ourselves, as responsible as that bus driver for what has >>>happened. By choice we shy away from confronting our elected members and >>>this is >>>the problem. They take all of us for granted and do what ever it takes to >>>create >>>an opportunity for making money and creating a vote bank. The state of >>>affairs >>>are so poor that for elected members, lives of people are not even worth >>>considering. How can we just sit around and do nothing? >>> >>> >>>Keith D'Souza. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On 22 June 2011 06:24, dilip dacruz <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>It's worthwhile reflecting on the complete lack of pavements/sidewalks in >>>the >>>village (India as a whole). A study from North Carolina is the one commonly >>>referred to. Here's a Wiki excerpt on the study that excluded people knocked >>>over crossing the road: >>>> >>>>Sidewalk presence had a risk ratio of 0.118, which means that the >>>>likelihood of >>>>a crash on a road with a paved sidewalk was 88.2 percent lower than one >>>>without >>>>a sidewalk. “This should not be interpreted to mean that installing >>>>sidewalks >>>>would necessarily reduce the likelihood of pedestrian/motor vehicle crashes >>>>by >>>>88.2 percent in all situations. However, the presence of a sidewalk clearly >>>>has >>>>a strong beneficial effect of reducing the risk of a ‘walking along >>>>roadway’ >>>>pedestrian/motor vehicle crash.” >>>> >>>> >>>>Mervyn mentions a list of pedestrians killed or maimed - what a tragedy, >>>>each of >>>>them. All for the need of a couple of hundred unobstructed paving slabs. >>>> >>>>[email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:33:06 -0700 >>>>From: [email protected] >>>>Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Re: Fwd: Help needed for prayers >>>>To: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Gregory, >>>> >>>> >>>>I can't place you actually but we will offer special prayers at our church >>>>here >>>>for your sister-in-law's speedy recovery. Our parish priest has healing >>>>powers >>>>and I'm sure his prayers will help. >>>>These accidents are a repeat fixture in Goa. My Dad was knocked down, my >>>>cousin >>>>etc etc..Its really a matter of concern. >>>>Where I live its the same story. Roadhogs everywhere. >>>> >>>> >>>>Merwyn Sequeira >>>>Philippines >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ From: saugoncho kolo <[email protected]> >>>>To: Saligao-Net <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:22 AM >>>>Subject: [SALIGAONET] Re: Fwd: Help needed for prayers >>>> >>>>Thank You all for your get well wishesand prayers..She's better today >>>>and showing signs of progress. She has started gettting sensation in >>>>her feet now and can feel someone touching her at her toes. thats good >>>>progress and the docs too are happy about the progress, nevertheless >>>>keep praying for her speeddy recovery as it is only prayers and the >>>>divine intervention which can bring her back to normal self >>>>Take care and God bless >>>> >>>>On Jun 18, 10:41 pm, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك >>>>نورونيا <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> A note from Gregory. Please pass on ... FN >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: GREGORY GODINHO <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: 18 June 2011 23:01 >>>>> Subject: Help needed for prayers >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Hi Rico, >>>>> I needed a little help from you to pass on the message to all those >>>>> who do not know!!! >>>>> On the 16th of June my sister in law Connie ( Mario's wife) was going >>>>> to attend the 7.00 am mass at our church as it was her b'day , was >>>>> knocked down by a speeding bus as she was walking on the side road >>>>> near the market(just before the speed breaker), and the driver sped >>>>> away. >>>>> She was admitted in hospital where she is still in ICUwith a severe back >>>>>injury. >>>>> All we need is please pray for her speedy recovery and that she may be >>>>> back on her feet. >>>>> Thank you and >>>>> God bless you all >>>>> >>>>> Gregory Godinho >>>>> Donvaddo, Saligao >>>>> Bardez Goa--403511, >>>>> Mob: +91 9049539726- Hide quoted text - >>>>> >>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >>>>To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>To unsubscribe email [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >>>>To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>To unsubscribe email [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >>>>To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>To unsubscribe email [email protected] >>>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Keith D'Souza >>>Goa, India. >>># 91 982 384 7474 >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >>>To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>To unsubscribe email [email protected] >>> >> >>-- >>Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>To unsubscribe email [email protected] >>-- >>Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>To unsubscribe email [email protected] >>-- >>Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>To unsubscribe email [email protected] >> -- >Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net >To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >To unsubscribe email [email protected] > -- Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe email [email protected] -- Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe email [email protected]
