Hi Sven:
On May 31, 2003 18:36, Sven K�hler wrote:
> > Tighter integration will come later.
>
> You should also be carefull with this statement. What does "integration"
> mean?
>
> 1. Integrate SAPDB into MySQL - bad idea
> 2. Integrate MySQL into SAPDB - bad idea too?
I will define it in the FAQ - right now, the more specific the question, the
less likely the I will answer correctly.
> You have to learn from SAPDB! See which features and possibilities it
> offers, and than let us talk again!
Of course. Also keep in mind that I am not a core developer. My work with
this project is to try and make sure everyone is communicating on the key
issues.
...
> We all might have thought, that you all at MySQL took a look at SAPDB.
> Than you would have noticed the x-server and that you can have multiple
> database-kernels installed etc...
This must happen over time. For most of us at MySQL, this partnership
is almost as new to us as it is to you. We will need time to understand the
product.
> Both MySQL instances would have to listen on different TCP ports, or
> even different IPs just to make that possible.
> As i already said, SAPDB is already doing better with the program called
> x-server: You can connect to one IP/Port combination, and the x-server
> adresses the right kernel-instance according to the database you choose.
>
> It will be very hard for MySQL to compete against all those features, so
> _PLEASE_ talk to the SAP guys and get yourself an overview of SAPDB.
This is why we are working with the SAP DB team. They know their product
and we know ours. :)
> MySQL looks like a toy in comparison with SAPDB - MySQL _really_ _is_
> much simpler than SAPDB.
>
> You cannot integrate SAPDB into MySQL without loosing all those features
> that make SAPDB this beautifull.
>
> I have to repeat my self:
> - _learn_ from SAPDB
> - don't even think of integrating SAPDB into MySQL
> - build a new product with all good concepts of both products
>
> I feel like you MySQL-people are assimilating SAPDB. At least the Borg
> claim to learn things while assimilating other species. I'm not sure if
> MySQL will.
>
> Please supply us with a plan what will be done!
> We need it! Proove, that you are not foolish enough, to create a product
> that is not as good as the one we already have (i should say "had",
> because SAPDB is no more - R.I.P)
I am not going to continue a defence of this partnership. I think that I
as a group, we have discussed all or most of these issues.
Now is the time for us (MySQL and anyone else who wishes to help :) to start
work.
The first priority must be the client licensing. I will work up some roughs,
run them through internal review and then we can do a community review.
After this, we will prepare a set of documents and plans - these will likely
include:
MySQL/SAPDB Integration FAQ
Community Feedback and Concerns
Feature-by-Feature Comparisons of MySQL and SAP DB
MySQL/SAPDB Integration Development Plans
The documents will take time to prepare and will improve over time. If
people have an interest, then they are welcome to help prepare / refine
these documents.
I expect that the FAQ will come first.
I will start by making a list of questions derived from our discussions and
then submitting it for community review.
The answers will happen as the development and management teams get
together to work on figuring out the concrete details.
Some questions may only be answered with "We don't know yet"
Another key task will be setting up the infrastructure of community work in
this area.
.. and of course, there will be things that I have missed and not
considered.. Additional feedback is welcome in this area.
Cheers!
--zak
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