Nearly all of the ones with problems use MP3. Also a few of them seem to
have the problem around song changes, so their encoder might not send data
for a short time, which probably means the input harbor thinks
disconnected...the buffer probably runs out before the audio track is sent.
Just a guess though.

OK, I will go in there and start logging away :)



On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Romain Beauxis <[email protected]>wrote:

> 2011/4/25 Brandon Casci <[email protected]>:
> > Right now we have a trunk version in place. I'm not sure of the version.
> I
> > will check, it's from withing the last 3 months though.
>
> Ok. Also, what input format are you clients using? ogg/vorbis? mp3?
>
> > I was not aware of logging specific to the input harbor. Can please you
> > point me to the docs?
>
> Well, just add:
>  logfile="/tmp/buffer.log"
> to the arguments of input.harbor, and send me/us the file after you
> have observed some disconnections..
>
> > The logs currently don't show network activity, just switching between
> > sources. Do we need to increase the log level, or  would this data show
> up
> > in the input harbor log?
>
> Yes possibly. You could use
>  set("log.level",5)
> to see more details..
>
> Romain
>
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Romain Beauxis <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi again,
> >>
> >> 2011/4/25 Romain Beauxis <[email protected]>:
> >> > Le 25 avril 2011 15:02, Brandon Casci <[email protected]> a
> écrit :
> >> >> Hello
> >> >
> >> > Hi Brandon,
> >> >
> >> >> I have a considerable amount of broadcasters that have issues with
> >> >> streaming
> >> >> to an input harbor. Their broadcast frequently switches between a
> local
> >> >> source and the input harbor. After a lot of research a few of them do
> >> >> have
> >> >> crappy home networks, and bandwidth issues, which explains some of
> the
> >> >> problems. The others seem to have no bandwidth issues, but I am
> >> >> wondering if
> >> >> Liquidsoap is input harbor more sensitive to network latency than
> >> >> Icecast
> >> >> and Shoutcast. So maybe Liquidsoap has a smaller buffer, and is prone
> >> >> to
> >> >> thinking the live broadcast has been disconnected much earlier than
> >> >> Shoutcast or Icecast might. Is that a reasonable theory? For now I'm
> >> >> going
> >> >> to test  it by having some live stream directly to an Icecast server
> >> >> and see
> >> >> if their problems go away.
> >> >
> >> > What version of liquidsoap are you using?
> >>
> >> The reason I am asking this is because I also suspect something in the
> >> recent versions of liquidsoap.
> >> One thing you can do to monitor the issue is to use the logfile
> >> parameter of input.harbor. This creates a file which contains the
> >> length of the input buffer over time which can be plotted, in order to
> >> get an idea of what's going on..
> >>
> >> Also, you should check the logs for messages of the type:
> >>  "No network activity for 1 second(s)."
> >> If those messages happen a lot and the graph of the input buffer goes
> >> to zero, then the problem is on the networking side..
> >>
> >> > Romain
> >> >
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