Hi Jim,

" There are plenty of sites that are perfectly x/html valid that are
completely insecure."

Well, perhaps too many people have been listening to this drumbeat:
"In fact, a non-developer: such as someone in marketing who uses
Dreamweaver, could also do almost as much as a normal WAF by saving their
content as valid XHTML. This would buy the organization basic application
security functionality, which is what WAF also attempts to do."

http://www.tssci-security.com/archives/2008/06/27/week-of-war-on-wafs-day-5-final-thoughts/

I rest my case.
Stephen

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Jim Manico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  There are plenty of sites that are perfectly x/html valid that are
> completely insecure.
>
> There are plenty of sites that follow perfect w3c and other standards that
> are completely insecure.
>
> There are plenty of sites that are top-tier security vendors that, at least
> in the past, have been insecure.
>
> - Jim
>
>  At 11:11 AM -0400 8/24/08, Paco Hope wrote:
>
>
>
>  Clearly the survey's content is only of interest if the HTML validates.
>
>
>  The publisher of the web page is not in the security business,
> they are in the publishing business.  But how can I respect
> their publishing expertise if they fail a simple automatic
> test.
>
> And how can their target audience of security folk, who depend
> strongly on following standards respect the knowledge of a
> publisher who does not follow publishing standards.
>
>
>
>  On Aug 24, 2008, at 9:47 AM, "ljknews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
>  At 2:43 PM -0400 8/22/08, Gary McGraw wrote:
>
>
>
>  BankInfoSecurity is running a survey on software security that some
> of you may be interested in participating in.  Try it yourself here:
> http://www.bankinfosecurity.com/surveys.php?surveyID=1
>
>  Hmmm.  http://validator.w3.org says there are 973 errors on that page.
>
>
>
>
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