On 8/26/08 3:03 PM, "ljknews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am not interested in dealing with people who cannot get
the simple things right.

Right. Because we all know that the HTML, xHTML, DHTML, CSS, and the related 
standards are really simple. Nothing to it. Writing valid HTML in our 
applications is a snap. And when management says "so, why are we a week late 
getting the application into production?" they'll be pleased to hear that it 
was to make sure the HTML on all 300 screens validated. Nevermind that the app 
was satisfying its users and business owners when it didn't validate. It's 
important to make the validation programs happy, not the users or the business.

As it is, web applications are shoved out the door with insufficient attention 
paid to their functional capabilities. Then there's the insufficient attention 
paid to their security capabilities. Standards compliance is orthogonal to all 
that. I'd rather have a functional and sufficiently secure web site that was 
non-compliant than one that was compliant but lacking in functionality or 
security.

Either way, I think Gary's point in putting the survey out on this list was to 
see if we were interested in the survey. It's a shame we've gone off on a 
tangent about the value of validating HTML.

Paco
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Paco Hope, CISSP
Technical Manager, Cigital, Inc
http://www.cigital.com/ * +1.703.585.7868
Software Confidence. Achieved.

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