Yes, I think it is the tannins or the must that is toxic to dogs.  Although it might 
take a *lot* of them to cause a problem, there have been instances where just a few 
have killed a grey.  I first learned of this from the Greyhound - L, where an owner 
posted the sad report of the loss of her grey within hours of eating a few (less than 
10) grapes.  Someone else had posted in sympathy the same prognosis for one of their 
greys, only with raisins.  Therefore, when discussing fruits, I would say that 
grapes/raisins are something I would personally choose to avoid giving my  hounds.
 
Randwulf, I don't see how giving yogurt would be a problem.  Yogurt is a milk culture 
product, not made (as I understand the process) using any part of the grape.  Yes, it 
does contain cultures, but not the same cultures as are found on grapes/raisins.  
Yeast does not seem to be a problem either, and as that is probably more closely 
related to the yogurt cultures, you should be fine giving your kids yogurt.
 
Lady Caitrin

Dawn L Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Grapes and raisins are toxic to dogs. But I believe that it takes a LOT of them to be 
toxic. I read an article not to long ago regarding the death of a dog that had eaten a 
pound of raisins. Unfortunately, it doesnt look like I saved it, and I cant remember 
where it came from. I *think* the problem is with the tannins found in the skin, but I 
cant remember for sure.

Now none of us (probably) are going to sit down and feed our dogs that many grapes or 
raisins, (and I suspect that it would take more grapes than that) so I dont think it 
is something we really have to worry about. More like something we should be aware of 
in case our dogs got into raisins or grapes and ate a bunch. Kind of like chocolate. 
It is toxic, but the darker the chocolate the more toxic it is. Giving my pup an 
occasional M&M isnt going to cause harm. Her getting into the Costco sized bag of 
semi-sweet chocolate chips would be cause for concern.

Ilia

Pavla de la Satu Mare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have fed frozen grapes to my shepherds for years never had any problems.
I feed them to my Jack and no issues there either. They are a treasured
treat while we go hiking, fluid and sugar boosts around. Perhaps it is like
other allergies/sensitivities some dogs or breeds are afflicted others are
not.

Pavla

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Can someone expound a bit on the grapes issue? I've fed them to both of mine
and had no problems (and the canid santuary here feeds them to some of its
wild canids.)

Its amazing what the greys will eat given a chance - mom's not looking, grab
it now! Wizard has gotten bread, raw potatoes, bannanas, apples and apple
cores, corn, beans, grapes, rice, olives, watermelon rind, SOAP!, recently
live rabbit and bird, etc, etc, ect. (many of these were not by my choice).
In fact the only things I've found he WON'T eat is citrus and lettuce.

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