Wow. Awesome with awesomesauce. That is love there. On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Adrianne Brennan < adrianne.bren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I only just started watching the show and am heading towards the end of the > first season. My fav char is Hiro and quite frankly, I would continue > watching the show just for him. He is awesome with awesomesauce. :D > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon > Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html > > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, angelababycat <asrobin...@mindspring.com > > wrote: > >> >> >> >> The last 5 eps are hogging space in my DVR, yet I can't bring myself to >> watch even when desperately surfing channels for something other than skiing >> or ghost hunting to watch. As I think someone else mentioned in a previous >> discussion, the carnival stuff killed it for me. I really do want to see >> the part about Clair outing herself, but how much more torture must I endure >> just to see that!?! >> >> Why does this keep happening to our shows? >> >> Angela >> >> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@...> wrote: >> > >> > I think that they just ran out of steam and didn't have a well thought >> out >> > story line that would last this long. They stopped doing all of the cool >> > things that attracted people to the show. It was as if they changed the >> > format of the show without really changing anything and it broke the >> show. >> > >> > Its like turning a comedy show into a drama. >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Tracey de Morsella < >> > tdli...@... wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > CANCEL â€" They destroyed the magic long ago. I do believe that the >> change >> >> > > in tone started in the middle of the first season, but I did like the >> whole >> > > first season. Thereafter with all the new characters introduced who >> were >> > > never developed by disappeared and all the story twists, I hung around >> out >> > > of loyalty from the first season for a while, hoping that the past >> glory >> > > would return, this season, I couldn’t muster up the energy to turn >> the >> >> > > channel or to watch it on Hulu. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > It jumped the shark long ago…. A fate worse than the series finale >> of >> >> > > Battlestar Gallactica. Who would have thought it possible. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] >> *On >> > > Behalf Of *Mr. Worf >> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:46 AM >> > > *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >> > > *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First >> Break >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > At this point I think that the series has too many issues. They have >> turned >> > > Sylar into a repented "hero" with a dark past. Claire has outed >> herself to >> > > the world and now they run the risk of falling into that strange void >> of no >> > > where to go from here. >> > > >> > > They left a few holes in the plot that they never really explained. >> Its >> > > just a mess. Do they deserve a renewal? I dunno. >> > > >> > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Tracey de Morsella < >> > > tdli...@... wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > 'Heroes' Never Recovered From Its First Break Series creator outlines >> his >> > > feelings on the evolution of NBC show on the bubble >> > > http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/7129 >> > > >> > > When you think of NBC's[image: >> > > http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif]< >> http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/7129>"Heroes," you can't help but think >> of a younger, less emotionally certain Peter >> > > Petrelli[image: http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif]< >> http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/7129>standing on the roof of a building >> with Mohinder's enigmatic narration on >> >> > > the nature of life's mysteries. >> > > >> > > Those were the good days. >> > > >> > > Now, the series has evolved to a point where it is barely recognizable >> from >> > > its debut season (both in terms of characters and pace), and the >> ratings >> > > have plummeted. Where did the series go wrong, if it indeed went wrong >> in >> > > the first place? >> > > >> > > Fans have their opinions and series creator Tim Kring has his own. >> > > >> > > However, to Kring, the series never fully recovered after its first >> break >> > > following the initial 11 episodes. "Fallout," the 11th episode of the >> > > series, originally premiered on Dec. 4, 2006, after which the series >> went on >> > > a festive vacation before returning to the screens on Jan. 22, 2007. >> > > >> > > "We took about four days off between Season 1 and 2 -- we never >> stopped >> > > writing," Kring told The AV Club. "Same directors, same actors, same >> > > everything. So when someone says they don’t like Season 2, it’s >> like, 'Well, >> > > that was yesterday.' We don’t have a sense that the seasons are >> divided by >> > > ideas or timeframes; it’s just this big long continuum." >> >> > > >> > > Kring said the first season can be divided into two places. Then >> "Heroes" >> > > took a seven-wrrk break, and the audience simply never came back. >> > > >> > > "The first 16 episodes was the part everybody talks about," he said. >> > > >> > > After that 16th episode, "Heroes" delved deeply into the mythology of >> the >> > > mysterious Company, and eventually built toward an explosion-filled >> season >> > > finale ... and that became a problem for the show. >> > > >> > > "The other thing is, you can only be shiny and new one time," Kring >> said. >> > > "Also in that first season, we probably should have done two volumes >> or >> > > three volumes, smaller stories. I think people would have gotten used >> to the >> > > fact that we tell a story in volumes that have a beginning, a middle, >> and an >> > > end. Because we didn’t, and we ended with sort of a finale, it felt >> like, >> > > 'Well, I guess that’s over.' >> >> > > >> > > "So how do you go back to saving the world again? In reality, that was >> an >> > > issue for me. I was very interested in the origin story of where these >> > > characters came from â€" that first blush of discovery. It’s the >> most fun to >> > > write, and ultimately it’s the most interesting for the audience." >> >> > > >> > > But Kring previously apologized for the direction that "Heroes" took >> in its >> > > second season, right? Wrong. According to Kring, his comments were >> taken out >> > > of context and although he may wish to do some things differently he >> claims >> > > he did not apologize for any creative decision the series has made. >> > > >> > > "No, I was standing on the picket line when Jeff Jensen [from >> *Entertainment >> > > Weekly* called me," he said. "And he said, 'Would you have done >> anything >> > > different?' Nobody had ever asked me that before. So I answered really >> > > honestly, 'There isn’t a day that goes by where I wouldn’t do >> 10,000 things >> > > differently.' People think you’re making some precise widget, some >> > > scientific little thing, but instead it’s filled with human error >> and >> >> > > guesswork. So I mentioned a few things, but they published it as I >> > > 'apologized to my audience.' I got sandbagged." >> > > >> > > Kring was also keen to discuss the change of pace in the fourth season >> of >> > > the series, specifically the elongation of character arcs. There have >> been >> > > instances this year where a pivotal piece in a character's back story >> is >> > > revealed only to be discarded for weeks until there is a time to >> revisit >> > > it.. This change hasn't been an accident, but instead an act of >> necessity >> > > due to the high number of characters that make up the series. >> > > >> > > "That’s a product of a few things," Kring said. "First of all, there >> are >> >> > > only so many storylines you can actually do. The first season, there >> were >> > > six or seven â€" little bit of this, little bit of that. The haiku >> type of >> >> > > storytelling was effective when characters had very separate >> storylines. My >> > > idea was for them to stay apart for as long as possible. The network >> wanted >> > > them to be together on the second episode, and we really fought that. >> Once >> > > characters start crossing, you can do fewer stories." >> > > >> > > The trick to making a show more cost-efficient is by telling fewer >> stories >> > > per episode, he said. "When you have a certain number of characters, >> you're >> > > facing a mathematical reality that not every character can be in every >> > > episode. So some have to sit out." >> > > >> > > There is still no word on whether or not "Heroes" will receive a >> pickup for >> > > another season -â€" or in any other format for that matter -â€" which >> means that >> >> > > if Season 4 is the last page-defying adventure, the show has ended >> without a >> > > proper conclusion. >> > > >> > > Krings's full interview can be found at The AV Club by clicking here< >> http://www.avclub.com/articles/tim-kring,37975/> >> > > . >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > * >> > > >> > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) >> > > Database version: 6.14380 >> > > http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/< >> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/> >> >> > > >> > > * >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >> > > Mahogany at: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > * >> > > >> > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) >> > > Database version: 6.14380 >> > > http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/< >> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/> >> >> > > * >> > > >> > > >> > > * >> > > >> > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) >> > > Database version: 6.14380 >> > > http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/< >> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/> >> >> > > * >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >> > Mahogany at: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 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