Hey Bruce,
Was this reply to my below post?
Sorry, but I don't use Breaking News. To be honest I don't know what
it's purpose is. But having had said that, all I did was just now hop
over to app central and read the brief description. And lacking dynamic
page support is a big lack on today's web. The w3schools.com site works
fine for me. So I don't know what that reference was for either. Maybe
I'm just brain dead today. (grin) Feel free to enlighten me.
Regards,
Tom
On 3/18/2016 7:55 PM, LB wrote:
Hi!
Try:
http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/dom_obj_document.asp
Now if you do download my Breaking News and insert this link in there
you can expand and save the link for other pages to get the DOM reference on
everything.
Now, you can get events such as what button you are on, or any
tag/element of a page if you so desire to make your own app to do so.
My Breaking News downloads the page and all of it's elements and knowing
how HTML is structured you can strip all the elements apart and use them.
The only ones that don't show up doing this are those that are made when the
page is loaded and all events that fire to make more page elements based on
events...
So, to do anything at that point you have to be at the web site to run
those nasty scripts.
In my Breaking News I get the default web site and any link is based on
that reference unless the link has a full path, then I don't touch it.
Yes, my app has some flaws, but there mostly dynamic flaws. I take all
the tags for display and make a name if needed or at least post the text on
one line and the link it refers to on the next line. But there are times
when formatting can reverse that order, so I also exposed the link page it
points to by displaying the last page in the name for the link to give a
better understanding where the link is pointing; which you can modify that
display.
I have not touched it since last fall but one of these days will look at
some dynamic stuff for it.
But, your lists are displayed in my Breaking News app, but do not place
a list label on it, but could.
All I do is list them vertically as the appear on the web page. I did
not split up table headings and such, I concentrated on links and link
labels that exist in tables and lists.
Even div commands and anything that is related to text and links are
displayed vertically, unless you want to place them in a list view instead
of a text page. Then you get the links in alphabetical order or as is, an
option you set in the list view mode...
So, I will work on dynamic pages but avoiding it so you don't have to
load a page and deal with pop-ups and spy scripts...
I hope you have downloaded Breaking News.
Bruce
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: Learning How To Dig Into A Web Page To Make It Accessible
That's it, Chip. Screen-readers all have essentially two modes of
operation: Windows and standard programs or anything that uses a browser
or the IE engine, e.g. CHM files. So scripting one or the other is like
tackling two different beasts, especially if you need to do anything
more than skim the contextual surface.
Tom
On 3/18/2016 4:20 PM, Chip Orange via Scripting wrote:
Hi Joe,
Are you familiar with HTML?
The only example script which I've ever seen, which was written to improve
the accessibility of a web page, was written by an author who was familiar
with xml/html.
It used the .NativeObjectModel property to get to the IE document object
model so that it could examine the html elements of a page, once it had
determined that the page in question was the one for which further info
was being saught. It then worked its way down through frames and tables
and TD elements to find the one containing the information being desired,
it extracted the information, and spoke it.
This was designed to give the user some needed information very quickly
for an employment situation. I've not seen an example of any scripting
which tried to manipulate the page to change focus, activate controls,
etc.
If you're familiar enough with the IE DOM perhaps you know if this can be
done through it (I would think so), but I don't know enough to be of much
help. I have only a slight reading ability with xml and html, and as I
understand things, you'd have to be able to accomplish whatever you need
via the IE DOM; I don't think the WE scripting object gives you much in
the way of page contents or manipulation abilities.
Sorry I can't be of more help, but if you're expertese does lie in the
xml/html arina, then perhaps you can move forward.
Good luck,
Chip
Chip Orange
Florida Public Service Commission
Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314
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On Behalf Of Joseph LaFauci via Scripting
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:53 PM
To: Window-Eyes Scripting
Subject: Learning How To Dig Into A Web Page To Make It Accessible
Greetings everyone!
Can anyone suggest a place to start in learning about the browse objects
and other necessary info in order to be able to figure out how to make a
stubborn web page more accessible?
I have a particular one which has three (sort of) menu drop-downs but they
show up as lists and are not clickable in any way. I am not even able to
route the mouse pointer to them. Actually, I have succeeded in routing to
the items once or twice but it is certainly not consistent.
If a sighted person clicks one of the list items for me, the menu expands
and the resulting menu items are clickable.
My goal is to accurately get the mouse to the desired list item and click
it so the menus can be accessed.
I am working with the web page designers to make it accessible, but in the
interim (how ever long that may be), I thought I’d try to tackle it with
scripting. So far that is quite a challenge for me as I haven’t done much
with web pages in scripts.
One of these days I will have to take a script class for Window-Eyes.
Meanwhile, I wish we had a really good scripting book.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks.
Joe
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