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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Lol unfortunately theirs not a communication channel they don't have a finger in. Discord IMO is a bit safer than FB. Luckily for us they're not gonna throw someone in jail because "weed" came up in their messages. But if it's harder stuff and they can charge you with conspiracy, they'll definitely do that. But to be real, if they locked up everyone who talked about drugs on the internet, people that would really need to be locked up would be out on the street.. Locking people up who use drugs isn't really helping them or anyone else when you look at it from a systematic perspective. I'm from the U.S., anyone know about the "war on drugs?" URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/527099/#p527099 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Wow, yeah, a completely different topic indeed. I think the most private FB message I've sent would be an I love you. If you've gone far beyond that? Well, I seriously don't know what to tell ya. I'd just like to point out though that if you're messaging your local drug dealer on FB you're probably either looking to get caught or seriously shouldn't be using the net.If what @42 says is true though and FB is browsing through people's PM's, I dare say things are not as they used to be. I'm sure AOL and MSN messaging never felt nearly as bad as all that. Then again, what do I know. I didn't study to become an online snoop. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/527096/#p527096 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Just because google and amazon collect data doesn't mean that everything's ok and data can't be used with malicious intent. I really don't have a problem with personalized search results and ads on google and youtube, facebook showing me shit it thinks I'm interested in (minus the alt-rite religious trash), but people don't know or seem to care that companies gather even more than that. When I move into my own place, all my internet traffic is going to be filtered through a VPN. Why? More privacy protection, for one. My actual IP address will not show up for those who may want to find it for some reason. This also avoids the issue of DDOSing and swatting. Which is important if you become a content creator who is interactive with their audience.Speaking of Facebook however, they're a company that takes it a step to far in my book, as they actually track private messages, and sell your private messages. I don't think anyone has to be ok with that at all.Who cares? Me. I fuckin do, man. The idea of personal space, boundaries, etc, is not like they used to be. Call me old school but I don't give a single solitary shit about the financial interest of corporations when they screw people over. Don't even get me started on the medical industry pushing poison onto people and arresting people for posession of marijuana, when alcohol related mishaps happen everyday, and genetically modified, poisoned tobacco products are still on the market.. But that's another topic. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/527085/#p527085 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Just because google and amazon collect data doesn't mean that everything's ok and data can't be used with malicious intent. I really don't have a problem with personalized search results and ads on google and youtube, facebook showing me shit it thinks I'm interested in (minus the alt-rite religious trash), but people don't know or seem to care that companies gather even more than that. When I move into my own place, all my internet traffic is going to be filtered through a VPN. Why? More privacy protection, for one. My actual IP address will not show up for those who may want to find it for some reason. This also avoids the issue of DDOSing and swatting. Which is important if you become a content creator who is interactive with their audience.Speaking of Facebook however, they're a company that takes it a step to far in my book, as they actually track private messages, and sell your private messages. I don't think anyone has to be ok with that at all. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/527085/#p527085 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance The problem is that, well, this is the internet. It's not your private home. You're not locked behind closed doors anymore. This is why I always tell people that when you hit send or submit or OK or anything that counts as acknowledgement of consent on any device or online platform, you can no longer take it back. It will at the very least leave a footprint, at the very most, become a part of your life you may regret."Not behind closed doors, you say? What is this? My door is closed and even locked, for that matter!" Yes yes yes, but when you go online you have established a connection to the outside. Your walls and doors and windows and ceiling aren't holding it all back; you're dealing with other people from all around the world who all have differing opinions and agendas and aims and goals and so on! Companies want to market as companies have always done. So do those who are self-employed, for that matter! That's how business works! It's like gathering at a city square, only the square is divided into sections and subsections and even smaller branches, from small groups to larger communities, all united in a global colabaration that makes up the internet of things.And yes, your information is a part of that global colaboration, no matter how much you don't want it to be, unless you just, disconnect and pull the plugs and go away! There are tradeoffs for any aspect of life. You can live out in the middle of nowhere, no phone, no PC, no smart devices, no communication and all the privacy you could ever want, or you can connect, and even if its just the one device it will eventually share at least one piece of information you probably don't want it to, be it your location or your Apple music play history, or more personal matters. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/527077/#p527077 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance For most people who are against this, I think it's mostly the thought that counts. They are of the opinion that the same privacy they have in physical life should be taken for granted on the internet. If it isn't, they throw a sissy fit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/527051/#p527051 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance That's my point, it's just computers analysing your data, not humans. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/527047/#p527047 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance @37 this is precisely why large tech companies with big data sets use algorithms to search all this data and personalise what you see, or rather, what you're allowed to see. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/527021/#p527021 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Sorry if this poast makes me look stupid, but seriously, amazon or google are collecting your data, who cares?There are at least 1 million people using amazon and google products. Imagine how many staff you'd need to look through all that data. No matter how many staff amazon or google has, it wouldn't be enough ot look through all your google searches, ETc.So yeah. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/527017/#p527017 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance aint that the truth. Most people don't care about you, or there costumers, just money and surviving another year with their stock somewhere decent. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/526875/#p526875 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Its not just amazon that dnes this, or google? Have hey Siri enabled? Anyone? There, that's one more that does this. Voicecontrol is another. I could give a whole lot of examples, but will stop there. However; experience has taught me this; the people at the top, weather intelligence agency or whatever, those who run the world; do not have our best interests at heart, their actions are enough proof of this. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/526148/#p526148 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance People think I'm weird because I don't always have my face buried in my phone on IG and Snapchat. Recording every fucking moment they think might get them approval from everyone else. It's stupid. I'm almost 20 years old and yet I feel like an old man. I even see people older than me doing this shit so really that part might be irrelevant. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/526094/#p526094 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Just to say again I downloaded these podcasts/radio shows a long time ago because I was a fan and like to keep stuff on an external HDD. I called them podcasts, but a lot of them are just recordings of the entire radio show that have been file-shared on the web. But anyway, I listened to another one earlier and here's the latest coincidence. The two guys were talking about the wombles, which is a british kids TV show from the 70s I think, and they also mentioned Wind in the Willows, another kids TV show from the same era. In my recs now I have The wombling song by the wombles, and a clip from Wind in the Willows. Kids tv shows from the 70s isn't something I have searched for, and these are the only two examples of such in my recs. Obviously now I'm actually looking for this stuff, confirmation bias could come into play, but all the same, these coincidences are pretty creepy, if that's what they are. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/526073/#p526073 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance I personally am mostly fine with Amazon and Google collecting my data. I get better search results that way. Being careful with privacy stuff is fine, but I think too much paranoia doesn't help either. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/526054/#p526054 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance jack wrote:And that's why I always have the audible alerts on on my home speaker, so I know when it misfires and may record a few seconds of not-for-Google clippage.Hate to break it to you but even that won't help. These devices work by constantly sampling the surrounding audio in small buffers that they rotate out. Usually, the devices determine that they're just hearing ambient noise so they discard the buffers. But every now and then they'll choose to send voice recordings to the cloud for analysis if they detect that it "might be" for them but aren't entirely sure. Your device doesn't simply start listening when you hear the "ding" sound, it's always awake and listening. That's why you can shout at it to "wake it up," but that phrase "wake it up" is misleading and is a clever marketing scheme to trick you into thinking that as long as it didn't ding, it's not listening.As an example, one of the clips we found on my friend's Alexa was five seconds or so and was of me and him talking, about an hour ago. Neither of us heard the "ding" that Alexa makes to let you know it's waiting for a response. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/526034/#p526034 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance And that's why I always have the audible alerts on on my home speaker, so I know when it misfires and may record a few seconds of not-for-Google clippage.Also, as far as China is concerned, they don't even need the super-advanced technology for the facial recognition goldmine.Tiktok, WeChat, QQ (since it's international now) all have direct ties to the Chinese Government. Kids willingly post their 60seconds of fame on Tiktok blissfully unaware that they are selling their soul to this giant corporation that is courting U.S. gen-z's precisely because! they probably care more about accidentally going ridiculously overviral more than they do the royalty-free, all rights reserved license they have just given to the company. Same with the Russian facetuning app hoax. All these apps have ties to an intel agency and unsuspecting users jump right in, because making myself look different in several different configurations is more important than preserving my data. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/526030/#p526030 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance I think for most people it's not a question of corporate control, but government control. Tech and software companies don't run the risk of actively undermining or circumventing your rights as a person, they just want more money. If mining your data makes their bottom line longer and there's nothing to prevent them from doing so, they'll do it. And since you're technically not forced to use their apps or technology, and since you agreed to all of what they're doing when you signed up to their service, it's your problem in their point of view. Where things get far more problematic is if state governments get free passes to all of your data, and if they somehow acquire the power to forbid you from doing certain things based on that data. That's what's happened in China, and now that these systems are in place over there, there isn't much that will put a stop to it. If you live in China you can't choose to just opt out of the social credit system. You're a citizen, so you have to use it. You can opt out, or flattly refuse to sign up to, things like Facebook or Amazon. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/526011/#p526011 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance I think for most people it's not a question of corporate control, but government control. Tech and software companies don't run the risk of actively undermining or circumventing your rights as a person, they just want more money. If mining your data makes their bottom line longer and there's nothing to prevent them from doing so, they'll do it. And since you're technically not forced to use their apps or technology, and since you agreed to all of what they're doing when you signed up to their service, it's your problem in their point of view. Where things get far more problematic is if state governments get free passes to all of your data, and if they somehow acquire the power to forbid you from doing certain things based on that data. That's what's happened in China, and now that these systems are in place over there, there isn't much that will put a stop to it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/526011/#p526011 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Anyway... I think I satirically overdid 14, but the point still stands. Data collection has been a thing since the dawn of time; the difference now is in how it is collected and how it is shared and even who it is shared with. That techniques have advanced to the point and level where we are now is honestly amazing on so many counts. Yes, it freaks me the blazes...I've told this story elsewhere on the forum, but when I first signed up for google Plus it recommended three people two me almost automatically as people who's activities I should follow up on. One of them was a close friend of mine, the other was simply a person I'd heard of but had never spoken to, while the first recommendation on the list? Jason Alan. Many of you may be aware, that Jason Alan, of course, is the guy who developed Entombed.So, yes, I"ve been aware of giant company's data collection practices for quite some time now. Why do they not worry me? Simple: I'm not going to lose any sleep over what multi-billion dollar companies collect on me because, whoever my true enemies are? They are not standing on the top rungs of a corporate ladder getting ready to dish that information out to the world to make me look like the greatest chunky funky monkey that lived throughout the past 32 years. I've already accepted the fact that I myself will more than likely never be a millionaire let alone anything richer than that, that I'll probably never be taken seriously in political circles, that whatever advocacy I strive for will more than likely be limited and that more than likely it will just be more like seed planting rather than the harvest, and that my job is to influence people and push them forward rather than taking the front seat myself unless I absolutely have to.But more to the point? Unless I'm honestly doing something I houldn't be? I really have nothing to worry about! My screen reader could just as easily send that information out to someone if that were the case, as could any online gaming platform I've visited in the past decade. If they're not bothering, I don't see what, precisely I have to fear from a tech giant that could have me wiped off the face of the earth, with or without my data.Could they sell it? Sure. Could someone closer to me buy it? Maybe! Might I have to explain myself when someone asks why I listened to baby shark well over a thousand times? Possibly. Will there be a public tweet or post on twitter or FB I'm going to be ashamed of? Nah, not really. Call it naiveness, idiocy, ignorance; whatever you like, but I'm not going to hide under a blanket doing little less than nothing because I'm convinced big brother is watching me and he's going to turn right around and disable my phone the day I go out on an O trip trying to find a store or restaurant or bank or whatever. My life is far, far too simple to be the target of nefarious schemes involving behemoth conglomerations and closed door backroom deals where I'm the center of attention. Honestly? AT this point, I'd almost welcome a bit of spotlight; hey, Apple, are you listening? Spotlight! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525988/#p525988 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Camlorn wrote:Okay, look, guys. It costs a ridiculous amount of money to do speech recognition at scale reliably, and even when they do it can't reliably detect what you're saying when you speak clearly in a quiet room to your Google Home or whatever. And we can barely build a reliable barcode scanner app that doesn't need to be lined up perfectly, and barcodes are *explicitly* designed to be scanned.Speech recognition is the most accurate I've ever seen it. From my experience, these smart devices have no trouble understanding people. If it can get my name right (and it does,) I'd say it's pretty damn good.Recently I had one of my friends go through their Alexa account just to see what data Amazon is storing. There were so many clips that were marked "not for Alexa" but that were stored on their Amazon account that I lost count of how many. And the voices in the recordings were crystal clear--all the way from across their house, to the point where even I could understand what was being said in the recordings, with my hearing problem.Just like some of us take the "it's not possible approach" because it seems impossible, others of us say it is indeed possible that data collection is happening on orders of magnitude higher scales than we know about. Images are being transmitted everywhere and cameras are talking to one another (and transferring image files, which are very large.) How do I know this? Well, if you go to a foreign country, enough of your identity is pulled up about you just by facial recognition. Nowadays you don't even need to pull out your passport and foreign agencies know where you live just by scanning your face (this is from experience.)Data transfers are getting faster and bandwidth is increasing to the point where what used to slow down residential Internet just ten years ago now doesn't even cause it to hiccup. So yeah, it's entirely possible. We've been kept unaware because we believe in the mediocrity of technology, but this is exactly what the data collectors want from us.If you have an Alexa, check out your Amazon account when you get some time and you'll be shocked at how many small recordings are stored of you--all without your knowledge. Once my friend discovered this, they finally listened to me and got rid of their smart technology. Especially after one of the recordings was of them and their significant other having sex... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525986/#p525986 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance No, intelligence agencies have virtually carte blanche to do what they want, so if anyone was going to do this, it'd be a state intelligence agency. If the ability to scrape fully over a system did exist, thenI'd put good money on the NSA/CIA/KGB/GCHQ/NKVD/whoever having access to it and using it and nobody even knowing until the whistle is blown however. That's what I think, the intelligence community already quite probably has that tech and nobody knows about it, then one day somebody blows the whistle and it's revealed that for the past 20 years your data's actually being siphoned off to After all, it has happened in the past, and various agencies have who knows what. If they could scrape from webcams/mics it'd be a goldmine of intel being gathered without needing to put people in a dangerous spot.fro URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525978/#p525978 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance What's more, podcasts are not immune to cross-tracking. THe metadata is right there inside every rss feed. Even if the podcast doesn't visibly show the feed when you are listening, i.e. you are listening or downloading straight from the website. In which case it's even easier. It's a one thing leads to another scenario, but it definitely isn't your mic. To assume that phones do that is somehow a bit more logical since they are actively cooled, but if your computer did that, suffice it to say your fan would be going at full wack, and that's before the metered data isp would be kicking ms/Google's ass. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525977/#p525977 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Okay, look, guys. It costs a ridiculous amount of money to do speech recognition at scale reliably, and even when they do it can't reliably detect what you're saying when you speak clearly in a quiet room to your Google Home or whatever. And we can barely build a reliable barcode scanner app that doesn't need to be lined up perfectly, and barcodes are *explicitly* designed to be scanned.Yes Facebook, Apple, etc. share data with other parties to some extent. Yes Google pays people to be the default search engine. But scraping your camera and microphone all the time to go get fed to some magic AI overlord, that's silly. And you couldn't keep it secret either, since if you could do it you'd need to basically double Google's computing power, which means someone having as many datacenters as Google and no one knows what they're for, and you just can't hide a bunch of gigantic mysterious buildings that eat power and network bandwidth like candy to secretly run the AI mastermind overlord data consume-o-matic 1.Plus if we had that tech we'd put it in the Google Home or something and sell it to you for a low monthly fee of $4.99 and make more money than scraping your data for ads anyway since honestly how many of us wouldn't pay for something that could just always understand us no matter what, including the context of what we're doing, and be able to answer our questions perfectly or something? Come on. It's ridiculously paranoid to decide that this tech exists while somehow being secret and also we only use it for ads and Youtube recommendations without telling you, especially when they can do the same thing by just looking at your search history.Even if it only sends a little bit of data, people can both see and intercept it, and we'd know, unless you also want to propose that it has some sort of magic 100% effective "I have detected the person holding this device is a security researcher" tech? perhaps by doing facial recognition against a database of known security researchers? Or maybe it uses the wi-fi card to detect your brain waves to tell if you're thinking about security, perhaps? O I know, it can use the accelerometer to tell that you're nervous and the embedded black hole in every iPhone to edit the past to remove any data it might have sent an hour ago from your network logs! Yay!But seriously, if things were as bad as this there is literally nothing you can do ever, not even uninstalling apps, not even getting rid of your phone and all your electronics because your neighbor has some, and don't forget about the weather satellites...it's ridiculous to think this. They share browser history, and app history sometimes, and sometimes your apps will share some data, but it's not just listening and watching what you do and somehow detecting things from that, because seriously that doesn't exist right now and probably won't for another 5 years, and when it does exist they're not able to do it in secret without editing the laws of physics to do it, so come on people. Critical. Thinking. Skills. And I think some of you are even programmers as well, which is extra disappointing, especially you Munawar, given that you've been programming for a long time and should understand the absurdity.Even Chinese surveillance isn't secret, in the sense that everyone knows what exactly they do to phones and you can find documentation of it if you look around, and the reason they get away with it is they flat out let citizens know they do it and pass laws that makes it illegal to circumvent. So: even a giant government with a vested interest in having this tech and not telling anyone doesn't have this tech. And when they do have this tech (which everyone knows about) it likes to just have all sorts of false positives and ban things and stuff because doing this reliably can't be done, sorry, it just can't.And a VPN doesn't protect you either, which if you did your homework on how the tracking that exists actually works, you'd know. It's actually done off cookies and things in the browser, not your IP address, and all a VPN does is puts one more party in the mix, except this time you explicitly gave them permission to analyze all your network traffic if they want and installed their spyware on your machine to send them a 100% accurate copy. IP addresses haven't been a reliable way to track users in years.Yes, you're tracked, but none of it is secret and what is being proposed on this thread is well outside the realm of current technology, and since it is literally impossible to make any of this secret and keep it that way for any real length of time, you'd know about it almost immediately if it started happening anyway. So it is ridiculous, and if you stopped to analyze your thinking rather than let paranoia run away with you, you could go become educated as to why or even reason it out yourself without having to learn anything. The only remotely compli
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance And that's why you should switch to linux.I'm sorry that i sayd that cause i'l probably get alot of fuck you's, but i mean it.I dont say linux is completely unhackable untrackable FBI/CIA/NSA/AGforum protected, but it atleast is less intrusive.Ofcourse it also depends on whitch linux distribution you choose.I am a linux fanboy, but i am stil using windows from time to time, but not as much as i used to.I use google's search engine, i use firefox whitch supposedly has some tracking blockers but it doesn't stop companies like google from tracking you as far as i know, i some times use VLC mostly to listen to some media files/sounds, and i use wine to play windows games.Ofcourse i use more stuff, but if you would want me to say what precisely i use i would need to get my whole package list here.And if it comes to VLC sharing this data with google, i dont know what to thing about that. VLC is as far as i know open source, so why would an open source product steal data from the user? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525965/#p525965 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Youtube does go through your browsing history, as does any other site nowadays so it could have seen the site you visited to download the podcast. Many podcasts do have summary information included so if they wrote about these songs in their show notes, Youtube could have just scraped it.As for things popping up that you happened to talk about, the same thing has happened to me and it's one reason I got rid of Facebook so long ago. Everything, including Windows 10, has the ability to listen to your mics and stuff like that so I'm hesitant to say that this is coincidental. And they don't even need to send too much data to make this happen.Now, whether Windows 10 is actually responsible here, there's no real way to tell. My first thought would be that Youtube itself gathered that information based on the podcast site you visited and all that.Also, I also disabled Cortana in group policy editor, but notice that the process is still running. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525949/#p525949 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance No. You are not the only one. I dont like other websites tracking me. Thats why I have all my extantions installed. Google chrome for life. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525912/#p525912 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance am I the only one who accepts that google knows everything about me? I mean, that's the price I pay for convenience I guess... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525911/#p525911 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance I'd just like to bring one fact to the table. The big tech companies do exchange data and/or services on a certain level. Did you know that apple receives a lot of money from google so they make google the default safari search engine? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525893/#p525893 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance I hate chrome. Firstly it's owned by Google and Google collects all kinds of data. Yeah I get that's ironic I say that because I use windows 10, however I use LTSC and strip the hell out of it. Secondly it loves to smother your RAM. I know there are several people in less than fortunate circumstances who can personally attest to this. Meanwhile I'm sitting here typing this on a laptop with 32 gb of RAM, more than my custom built desktop has. Firefox is just better anyways. I still have Chrome for some random apps that require it but that's about it. And ever since I was able to start paying for a malwarebytes subscription, I never had problems with malware fucking up my windows installation again. Only things I had to deal with were false positives. Now if I could just find an accessible backup solution that worked as good and seemlessly as Mac's Time machine did... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525853/#p525853 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance I hate chrome. Firstly it's owned by Google and Google collects all kinds of data. Yeah I get that's ironic I say that because I use windows 10, however I use LTSC and strip the hell out of it. Firefox is just better anyways. I still have Chrome for some random apps that require it but that's about it. And ever since I was able to start paying for a malwarebytes subscription, I never had problems with malware fucking up my windows installation again. Only things I had to deal with were false positives. Now if I could just find an accessible backup solution that worked as good and seemlessly as Mac's Time machine did... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525853/#p525853 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance I hate chrome. Firstly it's owned by Google and Google collects all kinds of data. Yeah I get that's ironic I say that because I use windows 10, however I use LTSC and strip the hell out of it. Firefox is just better anyways. I still have Chrome for some random apps that require it but that's about it. And ever since I was able to start paying for a malwarebytes subscription, I never had problems with malware fucking up my windows installation again. Only things I had to deal with were false positives. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525853/#p525853 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance The thing I do. I install a bunch of privacy extantions for chrome. And I use a VPN. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525850/#p525850 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance @14 Dude, stop. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525834/#p525834 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance @11. What is that suppose to mean? read post #10 again. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525833/#p525833 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Well now! This is a refreshing thread? Let's see here...My microwave quit working at 10 minutes though I set it for 15; do you think Hamilton Beach secretly knew I'd get angry if it did? I mean, I've cooked stuff for 15 minutes before... Surely it has a mic in it, somewhere... Where would you go to hide a mic on such a bulky device?Also, there's this shrub that feels like it smacks me almost every single time I walk toward the mailbox, but doesn't smack me on the way back... I wonder what it's real agenda is? Is it greeting me, then discovering I won't greet it in return? Could it be that thing has a proximity sensor and isn't really a shrub? Possibly it's smacking me because I get too close to the sensor on the way to the mailbox but not on the way back?I've also noticed there's a neighbor who decides for whatever odd reason that whenever I'm going to take out a sizable bag of trash to the dumpsters, will park near them, practically blocking my way to it. Do you think they've managed to somehow weasel their way into my audio interface and just walk out there before I happen to get to the dumpster?I have a cat that always starts needing at my leg, just as I'm getting ready to type a post like this one or do anything else that I find interesting. Is it possible she's somehow accessed Microsoft's Godbase or whatever weapon they're wielding to use to her advantage? She seriously messes things up just as they're getting good... I'm sure my kids are in on this one too, now I think of it! Particularly the youngest one! She's only now getting ready to turn a year old, but I kid you not she gets up hear and trys to take my keyboard away from me! FORCEFULLY! What on earth are we feeding our children? What kind of products are MS, google and Apple secretly cooking up in their labs and how many of them are being secretly injected into our world's fastfood chains! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525820/#p525820 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance It could be someone, somewhere, having an app open on the phone such as fb or instagram that actually did get caught taking control of your camera persistently while the app is open, which Google themselves have disallowed in android 12 (covert persistent microphone access, to be specific). You should also turn on audible alerts on any smart speakers that you ahve, so that if they do false positive you, you know when and where, and can stay quiet for the one or two seconds that it spends false listening. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525818/#p525818 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Definitely not gonna just chalk this up to coincidence here, that's definitely weird. This doesn't happen to me too often but sometimes it does and it weirds me out for a few seconds. I could be talking to someone about something and get a youtube video relating to it. This actually happened a lot more on my macbook than it has on either my desktop or new laptop, since Apple wants to act like they're for privacy but castrated ad blockers in Safari a year and some change ago.. But I use LTSC on all my windows machines. Google is your friend. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525796/#p525796 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance That was pretty bonkers. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525793/#p525793 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance @9You should learn about how probability works, and confirmation bias, and things like that. If I want to find a coincidence that's as bad as this one, I could manage to do so at least once a week, possibly as much as once a day.It is literally impossible for Microsoft to run speech recognition on your machine without people knowing because this eats a large amount of CPU resources. It is literally impossible for Microsoft to ship the audio somewhere else and do it themselves without using large amounts of network bandwidth. When I say literally impossible I mean not allowed by the laws of physics themselves impossible.Microsoft can use CPU resources without you knowing if and only if they have secret partnerships with enough chip providers that when a security researcher plays around with Windows they'll reliably happen to be on a motherboard Microsoft has secret control of, and even then you could still just measure the heat or power consumption and know something odd is going on that way, which means that Microsoft would also have to have a secret relationship with god or something so they could get exceptions to the laws of thermodynamics to stop everyone from noticing that hey, that's funny, Windows is using resources that it doesn't report and this hardware won't report it to us either.Microsoft can only ship data off device without someone knowing if they have hardware-level agreements with just as many routers, except again you can just measure the radiation from the wi-fi card directly or literally solder measurement devices directly into the ethernet cable, so again Microsoft also needs a relationship with physics god to get an exception to needing to use electrons to send information.And hey, even if Microsoft somehow has god-level access to the universe itself, that still doesn't explain how Google got the data. Google is a direct competitor in the browser market, the laptop market, and the cloud computing market. They've also been a direct competitor in the phone market, at least until Microsoft stopped caraing about Windows Phone, and are still a direct competitor in the VR market as well. Also let's not forget being direct competitors in the search engine market, somewhat competitors in the ad market, So if Microsoft is doing what you have decided Microsoft is doing they are a magical company that can change the laws of physics themselves who is also interested in handing data over to competitors. Both are silly, but frankly, if I was a magical company that could change the laws of physics themselves I doubt I'd care about such petty things as money, I'd probably just go "okay now the world is an amazing place to live, everlasting happiness forever" or something.Point being develop some critical thinking skills and stop freaking out because Youtube worked out that you're the kind of person who would be adjacent to those songs in their machine learning clustering algorithm, probably off something simple like your Google search history or something like that, and be aware that if you continue this many of us are probably going to laugh you out of the room because while Windows 10 isn't great at privacy, it's not violate-the-laws-of-physics bad at privacy either. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525788/#p525788 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance The podcast is from an old radio show. I downloaded them years ago. The two songs were Rip it Up by Orange Juice, and She blinded me with Science by Thomas Dolby. Both of these are from the 80s, and I don't think were particularly big hits back then never mind now. I've had these radio shows on my external HDD for maybe 10 years. So it's not paranoia. Those two songs are way too obscure to just pop up for no reason the same day I listen to a radio show from the 2000s in which both songs are mentioned. Neither of these are my taste, and I hadn't even heard of the orange juice one. I'm not into 80s music. If it had just been one song, I'd put it down to coincidence, but when it happened again, sorry, something is going on here, and it's not related to my internet activity, it came from listening to those shows on VLC. But I don't know how VLC could get any info about my Google account. So I'm thinking more Win 10 given all the software we know it has for watching for keywords in what we type and say. I wouldn't be suggesting this if there were a more obvious explanation to do with my browsing activity. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525785/#p525785 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance The podcast is from an old radio show. I downloaded them years ago. The two songs were Rip it Up by Orange Juice, and She blinded me with Science by Thomas Dolby. Both of these are from the 80s, and I don't think were particularly big hits back then never mind now. I've had these radio shows on my external HDD for maybe 10 years. So it's not paranoia. Those two songs are way too obscure to just pop up for no reason the same day I listen to a radio show from the 2000s in which both songs are mentioned. Neither of these are my taste, and I hadn't even heard of the orange juice one. I'm not into 80s music. If it had just been one song, I'd put it down to coincidence, but when it happened again, sorry, something is going on here, and it's not related to my browsing habits, or internet activity, it came from listening to those shows on VLC. But I don't know how VLC could get any info about my Google account. So I'm thinking more Win 10 given all the software we know it has for watching for keywords in what we type and say. I wouldn't be suggesting this if there were an obvious explanation to do with my activitybrowsing . URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525785/#p525785 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance The podcast is from an old radio show. I downloaded them years ago. The two songs were Rip it Up by Orange Juice, and She blinded me with Science by Thomas Dolby. Both of these are from the 80s, and I don't think were particularly big hits back then never mind now. I've had these radio shows on my external HDD for maybe 10 years. So it's not paranoia. Those two songs are way too obscure to just pop up for no reason the same day I listen to a radio show from the 2000s in which both songs are mentioned. Neither of these are my taste, and I hadn't even heard of the orange juice one. I'm not into 80s music. If it had just been one song, I'd put it down to coincidence, but when it happened again, sorry, something is going on here, and it's not related to my browsing habits, or internet activity, it came from listening to those shows on VLC. And out of VLC and Win 10, my money is on win 10. I wouldn't be suggesting this if there were an easy explanation to do with my activity. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525785/#p525785 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance The podcast is from an old radio show. I downloaded them years ago. The two songs were Rip it Up by Orange Juice, and She blinded me with Science by Thomas Dolby. Both of these are from the 80s, and weren't massive back then never mind now. I've had these radio shows on my external HDD for maybe 10 years. So it's not paranoia. Those two songs are way too obscure to just pop up for no reason the same day I listen to a radio show from the 2000s in which both songs are mentioned. Neither of these are my taste, and I hadn't even heard of the orange juice one. I'm not into 80s music. If it had just been one song, I'd put it down to coincidence, but when it happened again, sorry, something is going on here, and it's not related to my browsing habits, or internet activity, it came from listening to those shows on VLC. And out of VLC and Win 10, my money is on win 10. I wouldn't be suggesting this if there were an easy explanation to do with my activity. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525785/#p525785 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance The podcast is from an old radio show. I downloaded them years ago. The two songs were Rip it Up by Orange Juice, and She blinded me with Science by Thomas Dolby. Both of these are from the 80s, and were hardly massive back then never mind now. I've had these radio shows on my external HDD for maybe 10 years. So it's not paranoia. Those two songs are way too obscure to just pop up for no reason the same day I listen to a radio show from the 2000s in which both songs are mentioned. Neither of these are my taste, and I hadn't even heard of the orange juice one. I'm not into 80s music. If it had just been one song, I'd put it down to coincidence, but when it happened again, sorry, something is going on here, and it's not related to my browsing habits, or internet activity, it came from listening to those shows on VLC. And out of VLC and Win 10, my money is on win 10. I wouldn't be suggesting this if there were an easy explanation to do with my activity. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525785/#p525785 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance The podcast is from an old radio show. I downloaded them years ago. The two songs were Rip it Up by Orange Juice, and She blinded me with Science by Thomas Dolby. Both of these are from the 80s, and were hardly massive back then never mind now. I've had these radio shows on my external HDD for maybe 10 years. So it's not paranoia. Those two songs are way too obscure to just pop up for no reason the same day I listen to a radio show from the 2000s in which both songs are mentioned. Neither of these are my taste, and I hadn't even heard of the orange juice one. I'm not into 80s music. If it had just been one song, I'd put it down to coincidence, but when it happened again, sorry, something is going on here, and it's not related to my browsing habits, or internet activity, it came from listening to those shows on VLC. And out of VLC and Win 10, my money is on win 10. I'm not an idiot. I wouldn't be suggesting this if there were an easy explanation to do with my activity. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525785/#p525785 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance The podcast is from an old radio show. I downloaded them years ago. The two songs were Rip it Up by Orange Juice, and She blinded me with Science by Thomas Dolby. Both of these are from the 80s, and were hardly massive back then never mind now. I've had these radio shows on my external HDD for maybe 10 years. So it's not paranoia. Those two songs are way too obscure to just pop up for no reason the same day I listen to a radio show from the 2000s in which both songs are mentioned. Neither of these are my taste, and I hadn't even heard of the orange juice one. I'm not into 80s music. If it had just been one song, I'd put it down to coincidence, but when it happened again, sorry, something is going on here, and it's not related to my browsing habits, or internet activity, it came from listening to those shows on VLC. And out of VLC and Win 10, my money is on win 10. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525785/#p525785 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance The podcast is from an old radio show. I downloaded them years ago. The two songs were Rip it Up by Orange Juice, and She blinded me with Science by Thomas Dolby. Both of these are from the 80s, and were hardly massive back then never mind now. I've had these radio shows on my external HDD for maybe 10 years. So it's not paranoia. Those two songs are way too obscure to just pop up for no reason the same day I listen to a radio show from the early 2000s in which both songs are mentioned. Neither of these are my taste, and I hadn't even heard of the orange juice one. I'm not into 80s music. If it had just been one song, I'd put it down to coincidence, but when it happened again, sorry, something is going on here, and it's not related to my browsing habits, or internet activity, it came from listening to those shows on VLC. And out of VLC and Win 10, my money is on win 10. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525785/#p525785 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance
Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance The podcast is from an old radio show. I downloaded them years ago. The two songs were Rip it Up by Orange Juice, and She blinded me with Science by Thomas Dolby. Both of these are from the 80s, and were hardly massive back then never mind now. I've had these radio shows on my external HDD for maybe 10 years. So it's not paranoia. Those two songs are way too obscure to just pop up for no reason immediatley after I listen to a radio show from the early 2000s in which both songs are mentioned.Neither of these are my taste, and I hadn't even heard of the orange juice one. I'm not into 80s music at all. If it had just been one song, I'd put it down to coincidence, but when it happened again, sorry, something is going on here, and it's not related to my browsing habits, or internet activity, it came from listening to those shows on VLC. And out of VLC and Win 10, my money is on win 10 all day. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525785/#p525785 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Hi.I tried Brave today and am just used to Firefox.Braves site says it's faster but I don't notice it so am sticking with Firefox. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525765/#p525765 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance I've tried brave. It actually seems really cool, and i may switch to it someday. But you have to remember, even if you use brave you are not totally safe. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525761/#p525761 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance reason number 451321 people should be using Brave. Cross-tracking disabled. Mozilla-approved. Chromium-based, so it's just as accesible as Chrome.https://brave.com/jac065 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525755/#p525755 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance @camlorn, That makes more sense. I haven't thought about it like that but I've hardly thought about this much at all. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525741/#p525741 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance No. You're being paranoid. Alternatively Youtube noticed that you downloaded that podcast somehow because lots of web sites send enough tracking information to Google for them to know that, then went "other people who saw this podcast liked..." or something, or it just happens to be a popular song right now. The technology for what you're proposing literally doesn't exist, and if it did exist everyone would know because Windows would be uploading huge amounts of data all the time.While Windows 10 isn't super good with privacy, to think that you found something that the tens of thousands of privacy/security researchers not affiliated with Microsoft haven't noticed is kind of silly, and as someone who should know I can also confirm that your proposal isn't possible anyway for "Ai is super expensive" reasons.Also Microsoft and Google are competitors and if Microsoft has that data they're not giving it to Google, so even if this were possible and actually happening, Youtube having that data is also not going to happen anyway.more likely you're not running an ad blocker and downloaded it via a browser, or VLC is sharing data on what you listen to (which I didn't think they do, but eh). but my money is on popular song and coincidence with someone who is seemingly ready to jump at conspiracy theory type ideas ready to make something more of it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525728/#p525728 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance I don't get the same behaviour with Foobar, but I really don't know what's at fault here. It's not like Windows 10 is known for being privacy centric. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525727/#p525727 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Creepy Windows 10 surveillance Why do you think it's windows10? it might have been vlc as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525726/#p525726 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Creepy Windows 10 surveillance
Creepy Windows 10 surveillance So I was playing a podcast on VLC player, and these two guys were talking about some song by a band I'd never heard of, and later on I noticed that exact same song showing up in my youtube recommends . I listened to another podcast, and the two guys again mentioned another song I hadn't shown any interest in anywhere, and yet there it was on youtube recs again. It's obvious Win 10 uses its voice recognition software to listen in to what's being said even on media players. I don't have a microphone on this PC, and I was using earphones anyway, so it's listening from within the system. I thought I'd disabled all the invasive privacy stuff including disabling cortana from within group policy editor, and yet Win 10 is still sharing my listening habits with third parties. Anyone else aware of this and what aspect of Win 10 is responsible? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525719/#p525719 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
