Stus-List Re: C 40 Review

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Not practical Sailor but Cruising world from some years ago about my boat:Classic Plastic: C 40cruisingworld.comAndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260On May 6, 2024, at 17:32, Languid Refiner via CnC-List  wrote:Can anyone attach a copy of the article in say, .pdf format?Thanks, NoahOn Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 11:17 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List  wrote:Nice Review in Practical Sailor on the C 40https://www.practical-sailor.com/sailboat-reviews/cc-40-still-turning-heads?MailingID=1633=GB20240426-FixItAndSail=email_source=ActiveCampaign_medium=email_content=C%26C%2040%20Used%20Boat%20Review_campaign=GB20240426-FixItAndSailBill Coleman
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Stus-List Re: Kite jibing--end for end or dip pole?

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I favor end for end, too. As the boat gets bigger and wind pipes up perhaps sheets and guys on each clew will help. But the main point (and I’m coming into this chat late so I may have missed it), is it’s all on the helmsman. Just hold the boat downwind until the gybe is complete. Unless you have to go straight to a reach for tactical reasons, then just get the pole off quick and don’t worry about reattaching right away; just gybe and let the new tack rest on the headstay. Then worry about getting the pole on later.AndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260On Nov 12, 2023, at 22:33, Dennis C. via CnC-List  wrote:It's a UK sock.--Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LAOn Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 6:36 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List  wrote:Is it a VF Shaw Chutescoop?Bill Coleman On Sun, Nov 12, 2023, 18:51 Dennis C. via CnC-List  wrote:Always an interesting topic.  True, conventional wisdom says end for end (EFE) up to 35 feet.  Also agree EFE is faster.  Don't disagree that dip pole (DP) gybing is safer.  We do end for end gybes on Touche'.  Our pole is 3.5 inch aluminum.Regardless of EFE or DP gybing, I think the most important concept of gybing is the philosophy or mentality of the crew.  Whereas many crew tend to think a gybe is the chute coming across the boat, I prefer to visualize the boat turning under the chute.  That is, the chute, and its aspect to the wind doesn't really change.  The chute is moving down the course and the boat turns side to side under it.  To me, it's a subtle but significant way to visualize gybing.  The helmsperson really needs that visualization when gybing.On a side note, I spent 2 hours this morning patching holes in an asymmetrical chute, its snuffing sock and storage bag.  It's a chute I got from a dock buddy for doing some work on his boat.  It should fit Touche'.  The chute was stored on top of his batteries.  The holes were from battery acid.Next is fitting the snuffing sock with a new metal hoop.  The old one is broken.  It collapsed on the chute and grabbed it so it wouldn't go up or down.
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Stus-List Re: Mac Navigation options?

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Dean, I have to admit that I find my iPads almost indispensable. I recommend getting one. Make sure you get a cellular capable one—you don’t have to activate the cell service but you need to be cellular capable in order to get the GPS. AndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA 02840+401 965 5260https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/On Oct 22, 2023, at 12:23, Dean McNeill via CnC-List  wrote:Thanks guys, I checked out both Active Captain and Aquamaps and they only run on iPhone or iPad. Really hoping to find something that works on a Mac laptop. Have found both OpenCPN and MacENC64 but nautical maps of NovaScotia Canada are either unavailable or crazy expensive.Perhaps I have to break down and buy an iPad and use either Navionics, ActiveCaptian or AquaMaps.Dean  
BarraWindCHalifax, Nova ScotiaOn Oct 22, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List  wrote:I love my Aquamap   Joe Della BarbaCoquina C 35 MK IKent Island MD USA   From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:51 PMTo: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>Cc: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>Subject: Stus-List Re: Mac Navigation options? I've become a fan of Aquamap, which has Active Captain and Waterway Guide info integrated with the charts, which themselves are very good.AndyMasquerade (Baltic 47) Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RIUSA 02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/phone  +401 965 5260  On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 7:37 PM Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:You might look into downloading Active Captain to your Mac, so long as the Mac has the ability to determine your position by some sort of connections to a GPS.I run the Active Captain Community app on my old IPad that is with me during deliveries, and also have it on my Dell laptop. (when on a boat the laptop gets position info through a link to my android phone)  I have a Garmin chart plotter on Imzadi and have downloaded the Garmin G2 charts (which is a personal preference because they use the same color patterns and symbols as NOAA charts) to both of my other devices. It all works off-line; I can download new areas of the charts I have to the IPad if I will be in an area that is not already saved there because of somewhat limited memory on the IPad. The laptop has access to the entire North American chart set that came with my last chart plotter update.Garmin also owns Navionics, IIRC, and I seem to recall the choice of Navionics or Blue Chart charts is an option for the newer Garmin Chart plotters. You might call them and see if since you have the Navionics app and charts on your phone you can share it to the Active Captain Community app on your Mac.Rick BrassWashington, NC-Original Message-From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 7:42 PMTo: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>Cc: Dean McNeill <d...@deanmc.ca>Subject: Stus-List Mac Navigation options?I have an on-deck ChartPlotter at the helm and while I’m a fan of Navionics on an iPhone… it’s so small! I don’t have an iPad or tablet but I do have a great Mac laptop I don’t use — it would make a great on-board navigation station. What software and charts are good? Navionics on a laptop runs through the web so that’s not a viable option. I saw OpenCPN but I can’t seem to find any raster or vector charts for Eastern Canada. Anybody running anything good?Thanks, Dean—BarraWind1980 C 34Halifax NSPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help 
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Stus-List Re: Mac Navigation options?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I've become a fan of Aquamap, which has Active Captain and Waterway Guide
info integrated with the charts, which themselves are very good.
Andy
Masquerade (Baltic 47)

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 7:37 PM Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> You might look into downloading Active Captain to your Mac, so long as the
> Mac has the ability to determine your position by some sort of connections
> to a GPS.
>
> I run the Active Captain Community app on my old IPad that is with me
> during deliveries, and also have it on my Dell laptop. (when on a boat the
> laptop gets position info through a link to my android phone)
>
> I have a Garmin chart plotter on Imzadi and have downloaded the Garmin G2
> charts (which is a personal preference because they use the same color
> patterns and symbols as NOAA charts) to both of my other devices. It all
> works off-line; I can download new areas of the charts I have to the IPad
> if I will be in an area that is not already saved there because of somewhat
> limited memory on the IPad. The laptop has access to the entire North
> American chart set that came with my last chart plotter update.
>
> Garmin also owns Navionics, IIRC, and I seem to recall the choice of
> Navionics or Blue Chart charts is an option for the newer Garmin Chart
> plotters. You might call them and see if since you have the Navionics app
> and charts on your phone you can share it to the Active Captain Community
> app on your Mac.
>
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 7:42 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Dean McNeill 
> Subject: Stus-List Mac Navigation options?
>
> I have an on-deck ChartPlotter at the helm and while I’m a fan of
> Navionics on an iPhone… it’s so small!
>
> I don’t have an iPad or tablet but I do have a great Mac laptop I don’t
> use — it would make a great on-board navigation station. What software and
> charts are good? Navionics on a laptop runs through the web so that’s not a
> viable option. I saw OpenCPN but I can’t seem to find any raster or vector
> charts for Eastern Canada.
>
> Anybody running anything good?
>
> Thanks, Dean
>
> —
> BarraWind
> 1980 C 34
> Halifax NS
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Stus-List Re: Cruising Gulf Coast

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I have a meeting at RBYC on the 4th that I’d like to make. So see you before or after. Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA 02840+401 965 5260https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/On Oct 18, 2023, at 16:27, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  wrote:We will be at RHADC, but we can take a bus to St G. On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 2:36 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:Will do. Where are going to be? I usually stay in St G but may go around to RBYC this time. Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA 02840+401 965 5260https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/On Oct 18, 2023, at 14:05, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:We will be there until about the 10th. Let me know when you get there. Joel On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 1:23 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:How long will you stay in Bermuda, Joel? I’m hoping to get out of Newport on the 31st and head there.Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260On Oct 18, 2023, at 12:39, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:Sounds like fun!We are planning to leave for Bermuda Monday.  After a stop over, we head to the Carib for the winter before returning to Bermuda in April to hopefully stage a Med crossing mid May.JoelHylas 49Rule OneFormer owner The Office C 35/3On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:17 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  
   
 
 
  
   That's inspiring.  
   
  
    
   
  
   I am considering racing to Baltimore this Saturday, but the weather looks shitty;  winds on the nose, 14 to 25 knots, and rainy, temps 57 to 65 for a four to five hour long race.  I'll probably work inside the cabin on projects and daysail if the sun comes out.
   
  
    
   
  
   Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Magothy River, near Annapolis
   
  
    
   
  
    
   
  
    
   
  
    
   
   
   
On 10/18/2023 11:16 AM EDT Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

   
 

   
 

   
Getting underway in the morning for 11 days of cruising to Pensacola and back.  Weather looks good.  Initial itinerary is: 

  
 

 Gulfport, MS
 

 Pelican Cove on south side of Dauphin Island, AL
 

 Big Lagoon near Pensacola, FL
 

 Navarre Beach, FL
 

 Pensacola area for 2-4 days
 

 Head home
 
 
 
   
  -- 
  
  
  
   Dennis C. 
   
Touche' 35-1 #83

   
Mandeville, LA

   
  
 
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Stus-List Re: Cruising Gulf Coast

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Will do. Where are going to be? I usually stay in St G but may go around to RBYC this time. Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA 02840+401 965 5260https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/On Oct 18, 2023, at 14:05, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  wrote:We will be there until about the 10th. Let me know when you get there. Joel On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 1:23 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:How long will you stay in Bermuda, Joel? I’m hoping to get out of Newport on the 31st and head there.Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260On Oct 18, 2023, at 12:39, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:Sounds like fun!We are planning to leave for Bermuda Monday.  After a stop over, we head to the Carib for the winter before returning to Bermuda in April to hopefully stage a Med crossing mid May.JoelHylas 49Rule OneFormer owner The Office C 35/3On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:17 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  
   
 
 
  
   That's inspiring.  
   
  
    
   
  
   I am considering racing to Baltimore this Saturday, but the weather looks shitty;  winds on the nose, 14 to 25 knots, and rainy, temps 57 to 65 for a four to five hour long race.  I'll probably work inside the cabin on projects and daysail if the sun comes out.
   
  
    
   
  
   Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Magothy River, near Annapolis
   
  
    
   
  
    
   
  
    
   
  
    
   
   
   
On 10/18/2023 11:16 AM EDT Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

   
 

   
 

   
Getting underway in the morning for 11 days of cruising to Pensacola and back.  Weather looks good.  Initial itinerary is: 

  
 

 Gulfport, MS
 

 Pelican Cove on south side of Dauphin Island, AL
 

 Big Lagoon near Pensacola, FL
 

 Navarre Beach, FL
 

 Pensacola area for 2-4 days
 

 Head home
 
 
 
   
  -- 
  
  
  
   Dennis C. 
   
Touche' 35-1 #83

   
Mandeville, LA

   
  
 
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Stus-List Re: Cruising Gulf Coast

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How long will you stay in Bermuda, Joel? I’m hoping to get out of Newport on the 31st and head there.Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260On Oct 18, 2023, at 12:39, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  wrote:Sounds like fun!We are planning to leave for Bermuda Monday.  After a stop over, we head to the Carib for the winter before returning to Bermuda in April to hopefully stage a Med crossing mid May.JoelHylas 49Rule OneFormer owner The Office C 35/3On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:17 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  wrote:

  
   
 
 
  
   That's inspiring.  
   
  
    
   
  
   I am considering racing to Baltimore this Saturday, but the weather looks shitty;  winds on the nose, 14 to 25 knots, and rainy, temps 57 to 65 for a four to five hour long race.  I'll probably work inside the cabin on projects and daysail if the sun comes out.
   
  
    
   
  
   Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Magothy River, near Annapolis
   
  
    
   
  
    
   
  
    
   
  
    
   
   
   
On 10/18/2023 11:16 AM EDT Dennis C. via CnC-List  wrote:

   
 

   
 

   
Getting underway in the morning for 11 days of cruising to Pensacola and back.  Weather looks good.  Initial itinerary is: 

  
 

 Gulfport, MS
 

 Pelican Cove on south side of Dauphin Island, AL
 

 Big Lagoon near Pensacola, FL
 

 Navarre Beach, FL
 

 Pensacola area for 2-4 days
 

 Head home
 
 
 
   
  -- 
  
  
  
   Dennis C. 
   
Touche' 35-1 #83

   
Mandeville, LA

   
  
 
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Stus-List Re: Crew needed

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

See you in Bermuda. Are you staying in St G?

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA 02840

+401 965 5260
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> On Aug 20, 2023, at 12:31, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> We are sailing from Annapolis to Bermuda on our Hylas 49 leaving 
> approximately October 23. After about a week in Bermuda we head to St John. 
> We have openings for both legs. We pay for provisions and docking. 
> 
> Please let me know if you are interested. 
> 
> Joel 
> S/v Rule One 
> -- 
> Joel 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Bottom paint- Pettit Black Widow

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Thanks, David. That’s good to know. 

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> On Aug 9, 2023, at 08:49, David Knecht via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I had my boat painted with Pettit Black Widow this spring after hearing some 
> positive comments about it from members of this list.  I wanted to report 
> back to others considering it that my diver says my boat has had the cleanest 
> bottom in the mooring field all season.  He has dropped the cleaning 
> frequency from every 2 weeks to every 3 weeks and still has very little 
> cleaning to do even with that.  He is now convinced and telling other owners 
> how good that paint is (in our area at least).  Dave
> 
> David Knecht
> Rear Commodore
> Thames Yacht Club
> New London, CT
> 
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Stus-List Re: Therapy’s in Buffalo

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Glad you made it safely and enjoyed the trip. I thought you might!

Andy

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Newport, RI 
USA02840

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> On Jun 10, 2023, at 21:29, Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Greetings all - 
> 
> I completed the 720nm trip at 1230 today, pulling into my slip at RCR Marina 
> in Buffalo. 
> 
> Many thanks to everyone for the encouragement.   It also was extra cool 
> meeting Todd at Lock 17!  I had 5 different crewmates (ballast?!) during the 
> 23 day passage. 
> 
> It was a bucket list trip. ⛵️
> 
> Tom Perison
> Therapy 
> 29 Mk 2
> RCR Marina 
> Buffalo, NY
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Stus-List Re: Fall offshore passages

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A watermaker!? That means a shower after ever watch!Sounds great, Joel. Maybe we can cross tacks in Bermuda…or down island.Will I see you in Newport this summer?Hulas is a perfect boat for that passage…well…after a Baltic 47.AndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260On Jun 8, 2023, at 14:53, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  wrote:I hope everyone is having a good sailing season!My wife and I are sailing Rule One, our Hylas 49, from Annapolis/Norfolk to Bermuda and then St. John starting in late October.  We could use one or two more crew to join us for each leg.  Tentative dates are October 23 from Annapolis and November 4 from Bermuda.In the year and a half since we've owned her, we have replaced all rigging, sails, sanitation hose, and electronics, added a watermaker, rebedded portlights and portholes, upgraded electrical systems.  She is equipped with a raft, EPIRB, SSB.If you are interested in joining us please email me at joel.aron...@gmail.com.-- JoelHylas 49 Rule OneformerlyC 35/3 The Office  
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Stus-List Re: Therapy - Annapolis to NYC

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Nice! So glad you decided not to sell.AndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260On Jun 7, 2023, at 22:02, Thomas Perison via CnC-List  wrote:Todd/all - Delayed response. Super great to meet-up to Todd !  What a great time and reinforces all of his and the group’s encouragement to do the trip. Passed the 600nm mark late today doing a 15.5 hr, 80nm move west. Should make Buffalo on Saturday. TomTherapy 29-2Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 4, 2023, at 10:38 PM, Todd Williams via CnC-List  wrote:So, I am moving my own boat down the Barge Canal from Sodus, NY to Boothbay, Maine. Day 3 from Sodus ends just below Lock 17 in Little Falls. An hour later who pulls up… Therapy!!It’s a small world. Had a great chat with Tom.TODDIndigo Out We GoOn Tue, May 30, 2023 at 1:31 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:You are lucky you are going to Buffalo, a friend of mine is stuck for 3 weeks at Brewertons, just out of Onida (a nice layover) as a bridge is out going down the Oswego leg to Ontario.Bill ColemanErie PAOn Sun, May 28, 2023 at 4:15 PM Thomas Perison via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:Super! 
Here till am Tue. Liberty landing Marina - D 29 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 28, 2023, at 3:22 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> About 16 hours behind you, Tom. We’re just at the entrance to Delaware Bay.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA    02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On May 28, 2023, at 14:41, Thomas Perison via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> All - 
>> 
>> Thank you again - & special to Josh in the Solomons -for all your encouragement to sail Therapy vs truck her. 
>> Arrived in NYC harbor at 1300hrs today after a 49hr non-stop passage from Annapolis w 2 crew. 
>> A bit tired! Hudson R and the Erie Canal next. 
>> 
>> Fair Winds - 
>> Tom
>> Therapy 
>> 29 Mk 2
>> 
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Stus-List Re: Therapy - Annapolis to NYC

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

About 16 hours behind you, Tom. We’re just at the entrance to Delaware Bay.
Andy

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> On May 28, 2023, at 14:41, Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> All - 
> 
> Thank you again - & special to Josh in the Solomons -for all your 
> encouragement to sail Therapy vs truck her. 
> Arrived in NYC harbor at 1300hrs today after a 49hr non-stop passage from 
> Annapolis w 2 crew. 
> A bit tired! Hudson R and the Erie Canal next. 
> 
> Fair Winds - 
> Tom
> Therapy 
> 29 Mk 2
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Stus-List Re: Underway diesel fix - long read

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Dave, a Racor 500 series is one upgrade I made for my Yanmar or would recommend 
on any engine. You can open it and check without losing any fuel or making a 
mess, and a clear bowl at the bottom lets you see if any crud is falling or if 
you have water in your fuel. I run a 30-micron filter in my Racor and a 
10-micron filter on the engine. It seems happy and has been running all night 
so far. We’re in the C Canal heading home to Newport for the summer. Looks 
like lots of motoring this trip, but the Eng is nicely purring along.
Andy
(ex C 40, Peregrine)
Baltic 47 Masquerade

Andrew Burton
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> On May 28, 2023, at 07:14, Dave S via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dennis,  nice shade-tree mechanical work!  Knowledge and preparation. 
>   It’s always interesting to understand the failure modes of things.  I’ve 
> intentionally kept my yanmar stock - stock fuel pump, single fuel filter, no 
> start relay.   It has had a few small fuel leaks and one electrical issue but 
> these have been age/maintenance related.  (Ie - cleaning corrosion from main 
> grounds, replacing a tired mechanical fuel pump, o-rings hardening etc.  I’ve 
> replaced hoses belts and impeller proactively, keep it spotless, and It’s 
> been pretty much bulletproof.  (Northern climate, fresh water)
> I do wonder about racor filters, and the various other ‘upgrades’.   Racors 
> seem to be the default upgrade, yet are often cited as a source of 
> problems/air leaks. You mention the finicky gasket.   Thoughts? 
> 
> Dave 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 27, 2023, at 9:49 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I brought Touche' back from Pensacola to its home slip on Lake Pontchartrain 
>> this week.  Overall a nice sail with fair winds and weather.
>> 
>> Had one glitch.  Here's an excerpt from the trip report I sent some of my 
>> sailing buddies.
>> 
>> Thursday we were motor sailing past Petit Bois Island, Mississippi.  We'd 
>> just crossed the Pascagoula Ship Channel.  Touche's engine quit.  Just quit. 
>>  No slowing down or whatever.  Just died.  WTF?  The engine is a Universal 
>> 25XPB with about 2000 hours on it.
>> 
>> First thing I did was open the cockpit locker and look at the vacuum gauge 
>> on the Racor 500MA fuel filter.  It was still in the yellow where it 
>> normally runs.  I pulled the top and checked the filter element anyway.  I 
>> looked fairly clean.  Next I investigated if the filter might have an air 
>> leak and the level had dropped below the discharge.  The filter was only 
>> about half full.  I keep a small jug of diesel for topping off the filter if 
>> need be.  I topped it off and put the filter element back in.  I inspected 
>> the filter lid o-ring and gasket.  The gasket is square and can get twisted. 
>> Both looked normal.  Buttoned up the filter and tried to start the engine.  
>> It would barely idle and died.
>> 
>> The engine has an electric fuel pump.  Okay, next we checked the pump.  I 
>> put my finger on the pump.  My buddy turned on the ignition and pressed the 
>> preheat button.  Normally an electric fuel pump goes "click, click, 
>> click".  Only one click.  Aha!  Dead fuel pump.
>> 
>> The wind was good and we were still carrying 5 knots or so.  Fortunately, I 
>> had a spare fuel pump on board.  I spent about 1.5-2 hours changing it.  
>> Before I installed it, I checked it for operation by powering it up.  Yep.  
>> It went "click, click, click".
>> 
>> Got the new pump installed and we're ready to fire it up.  My buddy turns on 
>> the ignition and hits the preheat button.  Nothing, zip, nada.  Even the 
>> audible alarm was silent.  Big WTF?? He notices that even the engine gauges 
>> aren't moving.  Hmmm.  No power to the panel??  He says his Yanmar has a 
>> fuse on the engine and he thinks Westerbeke/Universals may have a circuit 
>> breaker.  I grab the engine manual, pull up the wiring diagram.  It shows a 
>> 20 amp breaker.  Who knew?  But...where the heck is it?  After a bit of 
>> searching, I found it on the bracket where the fuel pump and some 
>> miscellaneous engine electrical components are.  I reach behind the panel, 
>> find the reset button and hear a click when I press it.  Okay.  We try the 
>> engine again and it fires right up.  Yay!  Good to go.  
>> 
>> That lasts about a minute.  It immediately dies again.  Crap!  I start the 
>> investigation again.  Open the cockpit locker to look at the vacuum gauge.  
>> Oh, what a dumbass!  I'd shut off the fuel valve to change the pump.  I 
>> opened the valve.  The engine fired up and away we went.  
>> 
>> All told, we only lost about an hour on our arrival time and avoided a large 
>> tow bill.
>> 
>> A bit of internet research later revealed that the $256 Westerbeke 39275 
>> fuel pump is really a Facet 40185N.  I found one on eBay for $76.  Same pump.
>> 
>> This mimics the 

Stus-List Re: To sell or not to sell

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Anything I can do to help, don’t hesitate to ask. I’ve done that route many times. I’m dropping off a boat in Albany about the time you’re leaving the Chesapeake.AndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260On Apr 21, 2023, at 09:50, Thomas Perison via CnC-List  wrote:All - After much of your collective feedback as well as discussions w The Admiral, I’ve decided to sail Therapy from Solomons MD to Buffalo. It should be a great experience- I hope. My planned window: leave late May; arrive about 2.5 wks later in Buffalo.  A bit over 700 nm; based on initial planning. Thanks to all for your advice and encouragement ! TomTherapy 29 Mk2 Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 28, 2023, at 8:41 AM, Matt Wolford via CnC-List  wrote:Lots of C on Lake Erie, yes. From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 6:31 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Tom Buscaglia Subject: Stus-List Re: To sell or not to sell I'll third that.  Between eastern lake Erie and and western lake Ontario there are more well kept C's that any other area in the world.  I got my Alera from Niagara on the Lake on Lake Ontario, where she was made.  She was on the hard at the Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club and we shipped her to the Pacific Northwest.   I was b;pen away by the yard at the NoL Sailing Club...over 60% of the sailboats there were classic (pre 93) C Not too sure about Lake Erie,, but I suspect there is a healthy population of C there as well.I'm sure you can find your next boat there.Tom B.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.Tom & Lynn BuscagliaSV AleraC 37+/40Vashon Island WA(206) 463-9200www.sv-alera.com On 3/27/2023 3:19 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote:Thomas,  4k is very cheap for trucking a boat. Does that include hauling demasting, loading and unloading — and then restepping?  My advice is that you are probably better off selling down there and shop for a new boat up north. All the best,  Edd———-Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the “Starship Enterprise”Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-CVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL———-914.774.9767   |    Mobile———-Sent via iPhone 14 ProiPhone. iTypos. iApologizeOn Mar 27, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List  wrote:Greetings all - Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post.  …welcoming all input / advice from the elders…-sorry in advance for the long post - Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost.   I have put extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 /  running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & main sheet; lifelines,  lights; among other things. I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range from $teens to low $20s. My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option:  sell in MD or bear the cost to truck her to WNY? I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically.  Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk III for sale locally…! Cheers ! Tom “Therapy”1984 29-Mk II Solomons MD Sent from my iPhonePlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.Stu-- Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help 
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Stus-List Re: To sell or not to sell

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Thomas, if you have 10 days or so, the trip up the Hudson and the Erie Canal is 
worth doing and not very difficult. And certainly not very expensive.
Just a thought.
I bet if you can’t do it yourself you might find. Volunteer on this list to 
take the boat for you.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

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+401 965-5260

> On Mar 27, 2023, at 17:14, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> You can always list it and see what happens.   If it didn't sell in a 
> predetermined period of time, have it shipped.   
> 
> If you know a broker, they could run comps on sold boats for you.  That way 
> you'll have a better idea of your boat's worth.   I think the updates and 
> upgrades certainty make your boat more appealing but, probably doesn't add 
> too much to the price.   
> 
> Good luck! 
> 
> Danny
> 
> On Mar 27, 2023 6:05 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Greetings all - 
> Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post.  …welcoming all input / 
> advice from the elders…
> -sorry in advance for the long post - 
> 
> Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. 
> I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on 
> trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). 
> Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost.   I have put 
> extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 /  
> running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & 
> main sheet; lifelines,  lights; among other things. 
> I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range 
> from $teens to low $20s. 
> My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option:  sell in MD or bear the 
> cost to truck her to WNY? 
> I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically.  
> Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk 
> III for sale locally…! 
> 
> Cheers ! 
> Tom 
> “Therapy”
> 1984 29-Mk II 
> Solomons MD 
> 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Chandleries

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Jamestown Distributors has always given me great service. I haven't
compared their prices for a while but they were in line with other places
or lower. They have their own brand called Total Boat, which is very good,
unlike most West Marine brands.
Andy


Andrew Burton
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USA 02840
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phone  +401 965 5260


On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:27 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been
> going after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been
> pretty pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look
> too good -
>
> < 
> Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the
> transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less
> value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,”
> S wrote.>>
>
> I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.
>
> Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine,
> etc?  I can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even
> Fishermen's supply is not that great anymore.
>
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada Erie, PA
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Stus-List Re: Racing at night

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Back in the day, some boats had built in spots that shone up along the luff
of the jib. These were very good at destroying night vision.
These days I use my instruments, on which, though calibrated, I check
sailing angle readouts before dark. I also use a small LED flashlight that
I zoom-in to a small square that I focus on the telltale window. I don't
really worry about my night vision; my eyes go from instruments to compass
to telltale window. Others on deck can protect their night vision and keep
a lookout.
Andy

Andrew Burton
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On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 12:01 PM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I just read an interesting article in Practical Sailor on red vs. white
> lights and night vision.  It reminded me to ask a question of those more
> experienced about night racing.  I have only done this a few times and
> found upwind steering at night to be a real challenge.  I normally steer by
> the genoa telltales.  In light, shifting winds which we inevitably
> encounter at the darkest hours, it is especially important to steer well to
> keep the boat moving, but it is hard.   We used a hand held spotlight to
> periodically check the telltales, but that destroys night vision.  Are
> there better solutions?  Thanks- Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
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Stus-List Re: Boatless again

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Check www.burtonsailing.com for lots of pics of my boat. 

Andrew Burton
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> On Feb 23, 2023, at 11:06, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Good point Dave!  I do notice, a lot of the boats I'm looking at, on line, do 
> have bow thrusters.  Of course, I'm rarely at dock for more than filling up 
> and washing down.  But, I do like the idea of those types of modern tech!  
> (how modern is it really?)
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: David Risch via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: David Risch 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 15:04:40 +
> 
> Danny,
> 
>  
> 
> I may be preaching to the choir here and you may have already thought of this 
> but Oyster 47 handling vs. Tartan 40 handling is a different order of 
> magnitude in close maneuvering.   Not the size per se, but the weight.  A 
> thrusting bow may something to look for.   
> 
>  
> 
> From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2023 8:43 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Danny Haughey 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
> 
>  
> 
> I was lust looking at a local Oyster 47 listing.  I Really like how it looks! 
>  Ticks a lot of boxes!  If I can stay away from the newer flat bottoms, I 
> would be really happy!  I got to keep the admiral happy though...  She did 
> find a Trinella that looks really nice, it a Ron Holland design.  So, there 
> is hope!
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 15:00:40 -0500
> 
> Hi Danny, 
> I think an Oyster 47 might check those boxes. Good-sailing, we’ll-built boat 
> and very comfy. I made fairly quick passages to Antigua and back on one a few 
> years ago. 
> If you need to be more performance-oriented, there’s a sister to Masquerade 
> (Baltic 47) around that I bet will be on the market some day in the not too 
> distant future.
> Cheers
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
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> +401 965-5260
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Stus-List Re: Boatless again

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I think all Oysters have bow thrusters; good ones, too. When backing into a 
slip, I center the helm and use the thruster to steer the boat.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
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> On Feb 23, 2023, at 10:04, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Danny,
>  
> I may be preaching to the choir here and you may have already thought of this 
> but Oyster 47 handling vs. Tartan 40 handling is a different order of 
> magnitude in close maneuvering.   Not the size per se, but the weight.  A 
> thrusting bow may something to look for.   
>  
> From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2023 8:43 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Danny Haughey 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
>  
> I was lust looking at a local Oyster 47 listing.  I Really like how it looks! 
>  Ticks a lot of boxes!  If I can stay away from the newer flat bottoms, I 
> would be really happy!  I got to keep the admiral happy though...  She did 
> find a Trinella that looks really nice, it a Ron Holland design.  So, there 
> is hope!
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 15:00:40 -0500
> 
> Hi Danny, 
> I think an Oyster 47 might check those boxes. Good-sailing, we’ll-built boat 
> and very comfy. I made fairly quick passages to Antigua and back on one a few 
> years ago. 
> If you need to be more performance-oriented, there’s a sister to Masquerade 
> (Baltic 47) around that I bet will be on the market some day in the not too 
> distant future.
> Cheers
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
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Stus-List Re: Boats to avoid; formerly- Boatless again

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Yes, I like most of Perry’s designs.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
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> On Feb 23, 2023, at 08:39, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Bob Perry designed Saga 43.
>  
> -- 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: Boats to avoid; formerly- Boatless again

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I haven’t any experience with Moodys, but they have a good reputation. Oysters 
and Hylases are good well-built sea-kindly designs that sail well. To the list 
of good boats, I’d add the J/46 and the Morris 46 and 51. So many good boats to 
choose from. The boats I dislike are the ones Danny describes. 
The one thing that I would like, that my Baltic doesn’t have is a longish keel 
that I could let the boat settle on and dry out for bottom work rather than 
having to haul out at a yard. But the Baltic makes up for it by sailing 
well…and man, does she ever sail well! That’s also why I chose my C, too. I 
get incredible joy from a boat who sails well.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Feb 23, 2023, at 07:50, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm not sure there is much research that went into this comment.  Most of the 
> boats you listed have been around for decades and some are amazingly designed 
> and of high quality construction.  I think Andy was talking more about the 
> triangular shaped, (in plan) modern boats that are almost catamaran-like.  
> These boats are, lightweight, flat bottomed boats, with a hard chine on each 
> side,  In essence, creating 2 hulls, one for each tack.  However, the 
> interior vary, Moody's interior are very traditional, with plenty of wood, 
> curved corners and plenty of hand holds.  The older Hylas, oyster, Holland 
> boats, I'm looking at are pretty traditional.  One is even designed by 
> Sparkman and Stevens.
>  
> This will be our 4th sail boat, hence, our 4th shopping experience, and one 
> thing I can say with certainty, is there are plenty of surprises in boat 
> shopping.  You simply can't make these sweeping generalizations with any 
> degree of certainty.  There are some beautifully fitted out Bavaria's from 
> the late 90s early 2000s.  The boat shows simply can't be a real gauge of the 
> used boat market.  Hell, Catalina actually produced an amazingly well build 
> 38 footer that was designed by Sparkman and Stevens with plywood cored decks 
> and solid fiberglass hull.
>  
> Making an argument as to why you're hanging onto your boat is great.  But to 
> dismiss quality brans, wholesale like that, is just not helpful banter.  
> Thanks for the input, though.
>  
> Danny
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: Richard Bush via CnC-List 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc: Richard Bush 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Boats to avoid; formerly- Boatless again
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 04:00:47 + (UTC)
> 
> I was pleased to read Andrew Burton's comments about the modern trendy boats 
> (hylas, oyster, moody, Holland, Bavaria, Dufour etc., ); when someasked him 
> what to avoid, he said..."... I’m just not a fan of that ilk. Plus the 
> interiors tend to be a bit ikea-ish with lots of sharp corners and few 
> handholds."
> 
> Andy, thank you, thank you; I have long felt that way, and it is nice to hear 
> a person with your experience (and credentials) finally say it! 
> That is a major reason I have held on to my C 37;  boats that can provide 
> what it provides are going to cost 10 times what I have in my boat and don't 
> handle as well..! 
>  
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1085 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
>  
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
> (502) 584-7255
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2023 5:34 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
> 
> Not really. I’m just not a fan of that ilk. Plus the interiors tend to be a 
> bit ikea-ish with lots of sharp corners and few handholds.
> 
> Andrew Burton
> On Feb 22, 2023, at 17:32, DJ via CnC-List  wrote:
> Andy, Would have any suggestions as to what to stay clear of? 
>  
> On Feb 22, 2023 4:21 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Danny, I’ve delivered several modern fat-assed boats and though they tick a 
> lot of boxes, they do not sail well unless you’re on your ear because of all 
> the wetted surface.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
>  
> On Feb 22, 2023, at 16:01, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> I've got hylas, oyster, moody, Ron Holland on my list so far. Maybe a 
> Bavaria, or Dufour but, those can really slam going to wind...
>  
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Stus-List Re: Boatless again

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Not really. I’m just not a fan of that ilk. Plus the interiors tend to be a bit 
ikea-ish with lots of sharp corners and few handholds.

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Feb 22, 2023, at 17:32, DJ via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> 
> Andy, 
> Would have any suggestions as to what to stay clear of? 
> 
> I'd have to try and get out sailing on some boats over this coming season...
> 
> Danny
> 
> On Feb 22, 2023 4:21 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Danny, I’ve delivered several modern fat-assed boats and though they tick a 
> lot of boxes, they do not sail well unless you’re on your ear because of all 
> the wetted surface.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
> On Feb 22, 2023, at 16:01, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey guys thanks for the suggestions. 
> 
> I've got hylas, oyster, moody, Ron Holland on my list so far.
> 
> Maybe a Bavaria, or Dufour but, those can really slam going to wind...
> 
> The ones that interest me currently are more than I want to spend but, I have 
> a feeling there is going to be a change in the boat market over the next 18 
> to 24 months...
> 
> On Feb 22, 2023 3:34 PM, david coleman via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Danny,
> I have a 1984 c 43 landfall if you need to ask questions.It does not tick 
> all of your boxes like sugar scoop etc but has many features  you listed 
> .After you get a short list developed  let me know if I can help.Most of the 
> boats listed on this thread  are not in my budget.My experience  is any boat 
> Is a compromise   of  priorities. 
> Good Luck
> David
> 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 2:31 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Danny,
> C 43?
> Hylas 46/49/54/56 (no separate shower on the 49)
> Outbound 46 (hard to find)
> Bristol (older)
> 
> Good luck with the search!
> Joel
> 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 1:42 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>  
> So, We sold Rum Runner IV and we're going to start the process for our next 
> boat.
> I'm not really sure who said that selling a boat is typically a happy day for 
> a boater.  This is our 3rd sailboat sold, and we've been sad to see each of 
> them go.
> We'd been discussing going to something a bit more modern, with more room.  
> So, as the boat was in really great condition, I thought I would list it and 
> see if anyone was interested.  
> I've bee eyeing center cockpit designs.  Some of our desired features are,
> about 45 - 50 feet,
> at least a sugar scoop transom if not walk thru,
> larger cockpit (as most of our time, on board, is spent there)
> lighter, brighter interior,
> a good sized head with separate shower
> a nice master suite with an island berth
>  
> Anyway, if anyone knows of any vessels we might want to check out, let me 
> know!
>  
> Danny
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Joel 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Boatless again

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Danny, I’ve delivered several modern fat-assed boats and though they tick a lot 
of boxes, they do not sail well unless you’re on your ear because of all the 
wetted surface.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Feb 22, 2023, at 16:01, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey guys thanks for the suggestions. 
> 
> I've got hylas, oyster, moody, Ron Holland on my list so far.
> 
> Maybe a Bavaria, or Dufour but, those can really slam going to wind...
> 
> The ones that interest me currently are more than I want to spend but, I have 
> a feeling there is going to be a change in the boat market over the next 18 
> to 24 months...
> 
> On Feb 22, 2023 3:34 PM, david coleman via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Danny,
> I have a 1984 c 43 landfall if you need to ask questions.It does not tick 
> all of your boxes like sugar scoop etc but has many features  you listed 
> .After you get a short list developed  let me know if I can help.Most of the 
> boats listed on this thread  are not in my budget.My experience  is any boat 
> Is a compromise   of  priorities. 
> Good Luck
> David
> 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 2:31 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Danny,
> C 43?
> Hylas 46/49/54/56 (no separate shower on the 49)
> Outbound 46 (hard to find)
> Bristol (older)
> 
> Good luck with the search!
> Joel
> 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 1:42 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>  
> So, We sold Rum Runner IV and we're going to start the process for our next 
> boat.
> I'm not really sure who said that selling a boat is typically a happy day for 
> a boater.  This is our 3rd sailboat sold, and we've been sad to see each of 
> them go.
> We'd been discussing going to something a bit more modern, with more room.  
> So, as the boat was in really great condition, I thought I would list it and 
> see if anyone was interested.  
> I've bee eyeing center cockpit designs.  Some of our desired features are,
> about 45 - 50 feet,
> at least a sugar scoop transom if not walk thru,
> larger cockpit (as most of our time, on board, is spent there)
> lighter, brighter interior,
> a good sized head with separate shower
> a nice master suite with an island berth
>  
> Anyway, if anyone knows of any vessels we might want to check out, let me 
> know!
>  
> Danny
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Joel 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Boatless again

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Hi Danny, 
I think an Oyster 47 might check those boxes. Good-sailing, we’ll-built boat 
and very comfy. I made fairly quick passages to Antigua and back on one a few 
years ago. 
If you need to be more performance-oriented, there’s a sister to Masquerade 
(Baltic 47) around that I bet will be on the market some day in the not too 
distant future.
Cheers
Andy

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26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

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Stus-List Re: C 35 Mk I Recommendations for Sailmaker

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

One more thing, The price from Jenkins was very good.
Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:39 AM Andrew Burton 
wrote:

> I got new sails from John Jenkins Sails in Maryland last year. I intend to
> keep Masquerade for a long time so I went with the best cloth I could get,
> which I determined was GPL Lite Skin. I mostly cruise, but occasionally do
> a regatta like the Bermuda Race or Block Island Race week. Jenkins was the
> sailmaker for the US Naval Academy for years and has a great reputation in
> the Chesapeake area. I didn't want dacron sails as the shape isn't terribly
> stable and I knew that after 3 years of use I'd start to get upset with the
> draft moving aft. And my boat, like C, is a cruiser/racer so I want her
> to perform well, even if I'm just sailing over to Cuttyhunk with my wife on
> a Thursday afternoon.
> Jenkins can ship to Buffalo and I bet if you asked nicely, my son-in-law
> would bring the sails to TO for you on one of his excursions there.
>
> Andy
> Baltic 47 Masquerade
> ex boat: C 40 Peregrine
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:30 AM Kevin Wright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Glen,
>>
>> I bought a new headsail last year from Precision sails. Price was good
>> and the quality was as well. No issues after the first season. Their head
>> office is in Vancouver and I think all sails are made in Asia, pretty
>> common I think. My 2 cents…
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>> Raven
>>
>> 1985 Landfall 43
>>
>> Midland On
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:28 AM Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Time for Freya to get a new Mainsail and Headsail (135%-150% furling
>>> dacron).  Any preferred sailmakers in the Greater Toronto Area?
>>>
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Stus-List Re: C 35 Mk I Recommendations for Sailmaker

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I got new sails from John Jenkins Sails in Maryland last year. I intend to
keep Masquerade for a long time so I went with the best cloth I could get,
which I determined was GPL Lite Skin. I mostly cruise, but occasionally do
a regatta like the Bermuda Race or Block Island Race week. Jenkins was the
sailmaker for the US Naval Academy for years and has a great reputation in
the Chesapeake area. I didn't want dacron sails as the shape isn't terribly
stable and I knew that after 3 years of use I'd start to get upset with the
draft moving aft. And my boat, like C, is a cruiser/racer so I want her
to perform well, even if I'm just sailing over to Cuttyhunk with my wife on
a Thursday afternoon.
Jenkins can ship to Buffalo and I bet if you asked nicely, my son-in-law
would bring the sails to TO for you on one of his excursions there.

Andy
Baltic 47 Masquerade
ex boat: C 40 Peregrine
Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:30 AM Kevin Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Glen,
>
> I bought a new headsail last year from Precision sails. Price was good and
> the quality was as well. No issues after the first season. Their head
> office is in Vancouver and I think all sails are made in Asia, pretty
> common I think. My 2 cents…
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> Raven
>
> 1985 Landfall 43
>
> Midland On
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 9:28 AM Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Time for Freya to get a new Mainsail and Headsail (135%-150% furling
>> dacron).  Any preferred sailmakers in the Greater Toronto Area?
>>
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Stus-List Re: East coast boat yards?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I’m keen on Dickerson Harbor on the Eastern shore of the Chesapeake Bay. My 
boat lives there in the winter. 8’ draft so I have to wait for a very high tide 
to get in and out. Nice competent people and you can work on your boat 
yourself. 
Lovely anchorages around there, too. 
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA 02840

+401 965 5260
https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/



> On Jan 2, 2023, at 17:16, Dave S via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Contemplating my next boat and have realized that sailing is best enjoyed in 
> a place that isn’t frozen.  Am looking to purchase a boat - likely in the 
> Caribbean, with the intention of cruising farther afield in 2-3 years.  The 
> border services (taxation)  folks in my beautiful native Canada are most 
> willing to share in the adventure by charging an exorbitant stack o’taxes and 
> duties should said boat arrive for importation in Canada to enjoy a 4 month 
> sailing season or two.   As a Canadian citizen I cannot not import it, not 
> easily anyway. 
> So - we go away and we stay away, and we refit in the USA.
> Can anyone recommend a yard in the south east that is reasonable and decent 
> to deal with?  I have been told that if Florida then north of Jupiter.  
> Anyone have any other thoughts or experience on the subject?
> 
> Many thanks all.  
> 
> Dave 33-2
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I 170%

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

One of the things I loved about my 40 (and my current boat) was the fact that 
she was so weatherly and easily-driven. Sailing back to Newport from Cuttyhunk 
I would often be able to sail when all the Benehuntacats were motoring, or if 
they sailed they would slowly fade off to leeward and end up motoring while I 
sailed. 
And yes, I often took Peregrine (and my current boat) out for a sail and a beer 
with just the #3 jib set.
Andy
Currently singlehanding aboard Masquerade south of Atlantic City sailing at 7.5 
knots with 14 apparent at 50 degrees and Santana playing loud but tasteful. 
Heaven!

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> 
> 
>  
> The good thing about the older design is that when cruising, you can sail 
> with just the genoa. I drive some friends crazy with their modern euro boats 
> that cannot sail without the main up. I am pushing 7 knots, towing a dinghy 
> with a 135 genoa in a 15 knot breeze and they can not keep up under full 
> sail. Most modern boats today fall into that category.
> 
> 

Stus-List Re: Last call before broker listing...

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Not my boat, Chris, though I used to own a sister ship. Great sailboat; it does 
all things well; flies in light air and is good in a seaway. Nice, comfy 
interior, too. I know Corsair has been maintained well and she’s looked good 
every time I’ve seen her.

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Oct 3, 2022, at 23:20, CHRIS PRICE via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello, Andy. Any details/ info on Corsair? 
> 
> Chris Price
>>> On 10/03/2022 9:53 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sounds like a great deal on a great, well-sorted boat, Dave. 
>>> 
>>> Andy 
>>> 
>>> Andrew Burton
>>> 26 Beacon Hill
>>> Newport, RI 
>>> USA 02840
>>> 
>>> +401 965 5260
>>> https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2022, at 14:31, David Risch via CnC-List  
>>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> FYI…Corsair (1981 C & C 40) will be listed with a local broker shortly.  
>>> $45k w/o broker $50k with. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  
>>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 8:15 AM
>>> To: Stus-List 
>>> Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
>>> Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: anyone try this chafe guard?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Likewise that works on my MK I.
>>> 
>>> Where I plan to use it is on the bow where the anchor and chain sometimes 
>>> contact the hull.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>> Coquina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: dwight veinot via CnC-List  
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2022 11:31 AM
>>> To: Stus-List 
>>> Cc: dwight veinot 
>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: anyone try this chafe guard?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I used snatch blocks attached to the toe rail, one on either side and aft 
>>> of the tracked roller cars to prevent jib sheets chafing the cockpit 
>>> coaming on their way to the winch. Worked fine on a 35MKII
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 10:11 AM MICHAEL BRANNON via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was told by a customer this week that it does not hold up very well.   
>>> Nevertheless it looks like something that is worth trying.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike Brannon
>>> 
>>> Virginia Lee - 93295
>>> 
>>> C 36 CB
>>> 
>>> Virginia Beach, VA

Stus-List Re: Last call before broker listing...

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Sounds like a great deal on a great, well-sorted boat, Dave. 

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA 02840

+401 965 5260
https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/



> On Oct 3, 2022, at 14:31, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> FYI…Corsair (1981 C & C 40) will be listed with a local broker shortly.  $45k 
> w/o broker $50k with. 
>  
> From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  
> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 8:15 AM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: anyone try this chafe guard?
>  
> Likewise that works on my MK I.
> Where I plan to use it is on the bow where the anchor and chain sometimes 
> contact the hull.
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: dwight veinot via CnC-List  
> Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2022 11:31 AM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: dwight veinot 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: anyone try this chafe guard?
>  
> I used snatch blocks attached to the toe rail, one on either side and aft of 
> the tracked roller cars to prevent jib sheets chafing the cockpit coaming on 
> their way to the winch. Worked fine on a 35MKII
>  
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 10:11 AM MICHAEL BRANNON via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> I was told by a customer this week that it does not hold up very well.   
> Nevertheless it looks like something that is worth trying.  
>  
> Mike Brannon
> Virginia Lee - 93295
> C 36 CB
> Virginia Beach, VA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I’ll be heading there between Oct 5 and 15, whenever there’s a weather window. 

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA 02840

+401 965 5260
https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/



> On Sep 21, 2022, at 11:19, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Andy,
>  
> when are you going?  maybe I'll shadow you down!
> 
> -- Original Message ------
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 15:17:50 -0400
> 
> Well, I take my boat to Oxford, MD, a nice three day cruise away. Labor rates 
> are cheaper and a friend owns a yard nearby.
>  
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
>  
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
> On Sep 20, 2022, at 13:27, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Holey cow!  All these yards are full and a few are taking names for a waiting 
> list!  I might just be in a Pickle here...
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: DJ via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: DJ 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 08:08:57 -0400
> 
>  
> 
> That's good info Neil,  thanks! 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in Somerset 
> Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat, could only 
> launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a mast more 
> than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they didn't care 
> what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  
> Use with caution, I guess.
> 
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
> 
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't 
> owned by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to the 
> house!
>  
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on 
> that facility? 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Danny, 
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine up 
> the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by 
> Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Hello all, 
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere 
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too. 
>  
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little clumsy. 
> They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've done a 
> massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that I'd like 
> to protect. 
>  
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a 
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution 
> if possible. 
>  
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer! 
>  
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Well, I take my boat to Oxford, MD, a nice three day cruise away. Labor rates 
are cheaper and a friend owns a yard nearby.

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Sep 20, 2022, at 13:27, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Holey cow!  All these yards are full and a few are taking names for a waiting 
> list!  I might just be in a Pickle here...
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: DJ via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: DJ 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 08:08:57 -0400
> 
> That's good info Neil,  thanks! 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in Somerset 
> Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat, could only 
> launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a mast more 
> than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they didn't care 
> what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  
> Use with caution, I guess.
> 
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
> 
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't 
> owned by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to the 
> house!
>  
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on 
> that facility? 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Danny, 
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine up 
> the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by 
> Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Hello all, 
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere 
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too. 
>  
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little clumsy. 
> They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've done a 
> massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that I'd like 
> to protect. 
>  
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a 
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution 
> if possible. 
>  
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer! 
>  
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Not only that but his was pushed over by the boats next to him that weren’t 
propped up properly AND the yard charged him $2500 to lift it upright again!

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Sep 19, 2022, at 09:59, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yup…my buddy’s C & C 40 fell over there!
>  
> From: DJ via CnC-List  
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:07 AM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: DJ 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
>  
> Yea, I've heard some horror stories about that place!  
>  
> On Sep 17, 2022 12:14 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> As always, avoid Borden Light Marine in Fall River. Worst yard I've ever seen
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
>  
>  
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:05 PM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in Somerset 
> Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat, could only 
> launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a mast more 
> than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they didn't care 
> what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  
> Use with caution, I guess.
> 
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
> 
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't 
> owned by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
>  
>  
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to the 
> house!
>  
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on 
> that facility? 
>  
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Danny, 
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine up 
> the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by 
> Safe Harbor.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
>  
>  
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Hello all, 
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere 
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too. 
>  
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little clumsy. 
> They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've done a 
> massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that I'd like 
> to protect. 
>  
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a 
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution 
> if possible. 
>  
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer! 
>  
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA
>  
>  
>  

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

As always, avoid Borden Light Marine in Fall River. Worst yard I've
ever seen
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:05 PM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in
> Somerset Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat,
> could only launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a
> mast more than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they
> didn't care what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner
> bit of a crank.  Use with caution, I guess.
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
>
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't
> owned by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to
>> the house!
>>
>> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any
>> thoughts on that facility?
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Danny,
>> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine
>> up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned
>> by Safe Harbor.
>> Andy
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> Newport, RI
>> USA 02840
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>>
>> phone  +401 965 5260
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere
>> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too.
>>
>> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little
>> clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've
>> done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
>> I'd like to protect.
>>
>> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a
>> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution
>> if possible.
>>
>> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!
>>
>> Danny
>> Rum Runner IV
>> T40
>> Mattapoisett MA
>>
>>
>>
>

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't
owned by Safe Harbor.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to
> the house!
>
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts
> on that facility?
>
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Danny,
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine
> up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned
> by Safe Harbor.
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too.
>
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little
> clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've
> done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
> I'd like to protect.
>
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution
> if possible.
>
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!
>
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA
>
>
>

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Danny,
Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine up
the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by
Safe Harbor.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too.
>
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little
> clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've
> done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
> I'd like to protect.
>
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution
> if possible.
>
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!
>
> Danny
> Rum Runner IV
> T40
> Mattapoisett MA
>

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

That’s sad news. Aside from his obvious talent for designing beautiful boats 
that sailed as well as they looked, he was a very nice guy. I found him very 
generous with his time and happy to give advice on the several occasions I 
asked.
RIP, Rob.

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Sep 10, 2022, at 02:10, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 9/9/22 
> for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Randy Stafford
> SV Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Re: C Steak Rub

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Malden sea salt and fresh pepper is all I use. Then I cook the steak on a hot 
grill until rare/medium rare. 
I used to follow the Crocodile Dundee prescription; “chop its hooves off, wipe 
its bum and stick it on the plate.” But I’ve evolved from that. 
I do like to taste steak when I eat steak, though. I hate going to places where 
they garlic up the meat so that’s all you taste. When cooked, I like a little 
Colman’s mustard or horseradish on the side.

Cheers
Andy
On the boat suffering through the dreaded plague in Martha’s Vineyard 

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Sep 6, 2022, at 16:55, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Probably the salt that clumps. Is there a low sodium option?
> 
> Joel 
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 4:51 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Okay, so Stu doesn't sell a C brand steak rub.  I wanted to make it "list 
>> legal".  :)  List traffic has been light so here's a new thread.
>> 
>> Although I'm usually happy with just Worcestershire sauce, salt and pepper 
>> on my boat steaks, occasionally I like to amp up the flavor profile.
>> 
>> I've tried a number of store bought steak rubs, McCormick, Weber, etc.  Here 
>> in Louisiana the humidity causes them to set up into a lump when stored on 
>> the boat.  I even keep them in a plastic zipper bag.  One rub I use, Bolners 
>> Fiesta Hamburger Deluxe, stays loose and shakeable for whatever reason.
>> 
>> Any suggestions on a steak rub that wouldn't clump up?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
> -- 
> Joel 
> 

Stus-List Re: Andrew Burton

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

We’re at RBYC on the west dock. Going up to the bar, now

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Jun 23, 2022, at 13:54, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Down.  And back…now. 
>  
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 10:19 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Andrew Burton
>  
> Down or back?
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
>  
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2022, at 17:30, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice job Andy...care to discuss the weather etc?  I am hearing wide ranging 
> reports.
>  
> From: Rod Stright via CnC-List  
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 1:59 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Rod Stright 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Andrew Burton
>  
> Congratulations, well done Andy under dome trying conditions
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Joel! I learned all I know sailing my Dads C 27. 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA 02840
>  
> +401 965 5260
> https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2022, at 12:40, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Congrats to former C Andy Burton for taking 1st in class and second in 
> division in the Newport Bermuda race on his Baltic 47, Masquerade!  It was 
> hardly champagne sailing against a formidable fleet!
>  
> --
> Joel

Stus-List Re: Andrew Burton

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Are here?

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Jun 23, 2022, at 13:54, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Down.  And back…now. 
>  
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 10:19 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Andrew Burton
>  
> Down or back?
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
>  
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2022, at 17:30, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice job Andy...care to discuss the weather etc?  I am hearing wide ranging 
> reports.
>  
> From: Rod Stright via CnC-List  
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 1:59 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Rod Stright 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Andrew Burton
>  
> Congratulations, well done Andy under dome trying conditions
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Joel! I learned all I know sailing my Dads C 27. 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA 02840
>  
> +401 965 5260
> https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2022, at 12:40, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Congrats to former C Andy Burton for taking 1st in class and second in 
> division in the Newport Bermuda race on his Baltic 47, Masquerade!  It was 
> hardly champagne sailing against a formidable fleet!
>  
> --
> Joel

Stus-List Re: Andrew Burton

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Down or back?

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Jun 22, 2022, at 17:30, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice job Andy...care to discuss the weather etc?  I am hearing wide ranging 
> reports.
>  
> From: Rod Stright via CnC-List  
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 1:59 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Rod Stright 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Andrew Burton
>  
> Congratulations, well done Andy under dome trying conditions
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Joel! I learned all I know sailing my Dads C 27. 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA 02840
>  
> +401 965 5260
> https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2022, at 12:40, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Congrats to former C Andy Burton for taking 1st in class and second in 
> division in the Newport Bermuda race on his Baltic 47, Masquerade!  It was 
> hardly champagne sailing against a formidable fleet!
>  
> --
> Joel

Stus-List Re: Andrew Burton

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Thanks, Joel! I learned all I know sailing my Dads C 27. 
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA 02840

+401 965 5260
https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/



> On Jun 22, 2022, at 12:40, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Congrats to former C Andy Burton for taking 1st in class and second in 
> division in the Newport Bermuda race on his Baltic 47, Masquerade!  It was 
> hardly champagne sailing against a formidable fleet!
> 
> -- 
> Joel 
> 

Stus-List Re: Return crew

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Good luck, Joel. May see you there. Masquerade should arrive on Monday
afternoon.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 3:18 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> All
>
> We had to return to Bermuda because the starter failed  I am looking for
> available crew who could fly to Bermuda and help bring our Hylas 49 back to
> Annapolis early next week. Please email me if available. I had assembled a
> great group of C but their schedules did not take into account a four
> or five  day delay in departure
> --
> Joel
>
>

Stus-List Re: Calypso in trouble again

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I’ve been sitting in Oxford MD since Friday waiting for that NE’ly to die down. 
No one with any sense or was paying attention to the forecasts was out in that 
blow.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On May 12, 2022, at 14:30, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://www.foxnews.com/us/coast-guard-crew-rescues-injured-sailors-long-island-sound-vessel-disabled-rogue-wave
>  
> https://news.yahoo.com/dramatic-video-shows-rescue-4-144231376.html
>  
> Any listers on the boat this time? Yike!
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina C 35 MK I
> Kent Island MD USA
>  
>  

Stus-List Re: Jamestown distributors

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I hope it’s just the retail part and they’re going to be all on line. They’ve 
always been a great resource. 
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA 02840

+401 965 5260
https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/



> On Apr 30, 2022, at 11:58, DJ via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all, 
> Did you guys know Jamestown distributors closed the store? 
> 
> I'm sat here in their driveway looking at a sign that reads,  "the store is 
> permanently closed"
> 
> Google said they're open...
> 
> Danny
> 
> On Apr 18, 2022 11:19 AM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:
> Today is the last day to get your custom C cutting board with free 
> boat name and font.  A savings of up to $8.00
> 
> Order form is on the C Photo Album site -- http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/
> 
> Stu
> 
> 
> 

Stus-List Re: Recommendation: Osprey Composites - Herrington Harbor, area Riggers

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

When I got my new 25-year old boat, I had the rig pulled and disassembled
it. I had a good look at all the rod and it looked fine. Nevertheless, it
all went to Rig Pro--arguably the best in the world at rigging--for a
thorough inspection and assessment and, knowing that I'm on a budget that
doesn't include allowing the rig to fall over, they replaced the D2s and
reheaded everything else.
Andy


Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 9:41 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So basically any boat with rod rigging older than 2002 would need all new
> standing rigging?
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* MICHAEL BRANNON via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, April 18, 2022 9:36 AM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* MICHAEL BRANNON 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Recommendation: Osprey Composites -
> Herrington Harbor, area Riggers
>
>
>
> As a rigger I would go with Charlie Nelson’s recommendation.   To do a
> thought inspection of rod rigging it needs to be completely disassembles
> and the cold head looked at closely and possible NDT’d to ensure there are
> no cracks.   At almost 20 years old you most likely need to replace it.
>  Rather than sending the rigging to BSI, or other places,   we measure it
> and have new rigging made to our dimensions.It saves you a little
> money.
>
>
>
> Just a thought
>
>
>
> Mike Brannon
>
> Virginia Lee 93295
>
> 1978 C 36 CB
>
> Virginia Beach, VA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2022, at 2:43 PM, nausetbeach--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> We recently looked at a boat on the Chesapeake which would need some deck
> balsa replacement work and a rigging inspection and possibly replacement of
> some / all (?) of the rod rigging.
>
>
>
> Osprey Composites at Herrington Harbor / Tracy’s Landing was recommended.
> Anybody have any information / opinion on them?
>
>
>
> The boat has 19 year old rod rigging and do not have firm information on
> the last time a rigging inspection was made – probably not in the past 11 -
> 12 years when the current owner purchased the boat.  Can anyone recommend a
> good rigger who could do an inspection in the West River to Herrington
> Harbor vicinity?  The ability to inspect, and possibly fabricate new rod
> rigging is needed.  “The Rigging Company” is one name that keeps coming
> up.  Another is M Yacht Services rigging. Both seem to be on the higher end
> of the pricing spectrum.  Eastcoast Marine Rigging was another name, but am
> not certain if they have the capability / experience to fab new rod
> rigging.  Am not looking to change to wire.  Any opinions / suggestions on
> these two ?
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Brian
>
>
>

Stus-List Re: While we wait now IOR broach issues

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Guys, I highly recommend ‘friending’ Julian Everett on Faceplant, or checking 
out his terrific series of articles in Seahorse. He is a naval architect and 
one of those who innovated under the IOR very successfully .

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Mar 17, 2022, at 18:57, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Matt and Rob,
>  
> It sounds like the design evolution from the 1970 43’s to the more IOR based 
> 1975/76 42’s the boats lost a bit of reliability downwind.  Was it mostly the 
> IOR rewarding max beam more forward and a pinched in stern, a increase in 
> sail area with a reduction on ballast (SA/Displ.), or a little of both?
>  
> IIRC the 1970 43 hull design included something called a “high prismatic” 
> ratio. Maybe the swept back keel design makes it more forgiving when pushed 
> hard off the wind. It also has a fuller hull shape aft compared to later IOR 
> designs like the C 39.
>  
> So Rob, what I’m asking is for something like a short study/discussion 
> similar to your “Good Old Boat” magazine Design Comparisons articles.  The 
> current issue’s Design Comparison has some good CCA vs IOR discussion but it 
> seems the 1970 43s and 1976 42s are all IOR with no CCA influence.
>  
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso
> 1971 C 43
> Port Ludlow/Seattle
>  
> From: Robert Mazza via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 12:01 PM
> To: Matthew
> Cc: Stus-List; Robert Mazza
> Subject: Stus-List Re: While we wait for spring
>  
> So, what you are saying Matt, since I was the one steering when we went into 
> that broach on Burlington Bay, that it wasn't my fault! Thank you for that 
> reassurance 40 years after the fact. ;-) 
>  
> However, all those masthead rigged IOR boats were a handful off the wind. 
> However, I remember pegging the speedo at 20 knots on Marauder with the #2 
> hoisted on the pole in over 30 knots of breeze during the middle distance 
> race in Canada's Cup. The bow wave was breaking at the chainplates. I'd 
> attach a photo taken of the crew at that point but know how that gets held up 
> for approval. 
>  
> Rob
>  
>  
> Please trim your messages before sending to the list.  Thankx
Please trim your messages before sending to the list.  Thankx

Stus-List Re: While we wait for spring

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Off topic a bit, but there is a great series of photos of Mir roaring along 
under spinnaker, staysail, full main, mizzen staysail, and mizzen as she neared 
the finish of the Transpac Race called “the Agony of Mir.”  It captures her 
mainmast going over the side. The last pic of the series is her, after the 
wreckage is cleared, finishing backwards under mizzen staysail.
Brilliant!

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:47 PM John Irvin via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> The story continues. Thanks!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Mar 16, 2022, at 9:16 PM, JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > If we remember George H. Cuthbertson and his partner at the time Peter 
>> > Davidson had come across the 78’ ketch Mir for Harry Greb of Greb Shoes 
>> > Co. G.H.C. sailed her across the Atlantic and brought her to Lake Ontario 
>> > in 1953. Mr. Greb had
>> >
> -- 
> 
Please trim your messages before sending to the list.  Thankx

Stus-List Re: Cutting Board

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I have a small brick of beeswax in my sail repair kit. I’m sure I found it at a 
marine store. I would imagine if I rubbed it on the board and then hit it with 
a cloth and a hair dryer it would spread out just fine.

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Feb 20, 2022, at 21:13, Robert Abbott via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Charlie
>> 
>> Beeswax can sometimes be found at some big box stores, hardware stores, 
>> where candles are sold, where good quality cutting boards are sold (the 
>> store pushes a can of the beeswax for maintenance and extra $$$ and of 
>> course an apiary (200 lbs of honey needed to make 1 lb of beeswax)
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C - #277
>> Halifax, N.S. 
>> 
>> On 2022-02-20 5:54 p.m., Charlie Nelson via CnC-List wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I like the beeswax idea--natural, etc. but aside from the web, where does 
>>> one find beeswax?
>>> 
>>> Charlie Nelson
>> 
> 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com   cnc-list
cnc-list@cnc-list.com   cnc-list

Stus-List Re: Landfall 35 for parts, etc

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

It’s at Dickerson Harbor Boatyard, where my boat is.

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Feb 16, 2022, at 17:36, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Andy,
> Would you let me know the name or contact for the yard?  I could use several 
> bits for spares and such.
> Chuck Gilchrest 
> csgilchr...@comcast.net
> Landfall 35 Half Magic
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Good day, everyone. There is a poor abandoned Landfall 35 on the Eastern 
>> Shore of MD that will soon be consigned to the dumpster. It’s in rotten 
>> shape from the outside. If anyone wants it or wants parts, I’m sure the yard 
>> would be amenable to letting you have what you need before it gets chucked.
>> Let me know if you’re interested and I’ll put you in touch with the yard.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> cnc-list.cnc-list.com -- cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com ---nore...@development.harmonylists.io
cnc-list@cnc-list.com ---nore...@development.harmonylists.io

Stus-List Re: Landfall 35 for parts, etc

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I do know Tom. Great guy. He kindly gave me a tour of the naval architecture 
school at the Naval Academy a couple of years ago. Fascinating place. 
Feel free to call me at the number below.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Feb 16, 2022, at 17:17, CHRIS PRICE via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Andy, I would be interested in the location of this boat. I may be headed to 
> the Eastern Shore from Central Pennsylvania soon to retreive my duck hunting 
> gear. I have a 35 MkI on the Magothy River that always needs upgrades! By the 
> way, I believe you may know my brother, Tom Price?
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Chris Price
>> On 02/16/2022 4:56 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Good day, everyone. There is a poor abandoned Landfall 35 on the Eastern 
>> Shore of MD that will soon be consigned to the dumpster. It’s in rotten 
>> shape from the outside. If anyone wants it or wants parts, I’m sure the yard 
>> would be amenable to letting you have what you need before it gets chucked.
>> Let me know if you’re interested and I’ll put you in touch with the yard.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> cnc-list.cnc-list.com -- cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> cnc-list.cnc-list.com -- cnc-list@cnc-list.com
cnc-list.cnc-list.com -- cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Stus-List Landfall 35 for parts, etc

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Good day, everyone. There is a poor abandoned Landfall 35 on the Eastern Shore 
of MD that will soon be consigned to the dumpster. It’s in rotten shape from 
the outside. If anyone wants it or wants parts, I’m sure the yard would be 
amenable to letting you have what you need before it gets chucked.
Let me know if you’re interested and I’ll put you in touch with the yard.

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260
cnc-list.cnc-list.com -- cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Stus-List Re: Canadian Luxury Tax

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

On side note. I grew up sailing on my dad’s C 27 in British Columbia. On one 
cruise, I read a book by Canadian author Farley Mowat called The Boat Who 
Wouldn’t Float, about a pair of fellows buying and converting a small fishing 
schooner in Newfoundland. 
Mowat talks a lot about the area and I’ve wanted to cruise there since. My club 
has a cruise in Nfld this summer but my wife thinks we should attend our 
daughter’s wedding instead of joining them.
I highly recommend the book for any sailor with a sense of humour: “Black 
coffee made with rum as a substitute for water is a drink of considerable 
authority.”

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Jan 15, 2022, at 21:06, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't think it is easy to stay in the US for more than 12 month either.  
> But you only have to leave and go to another country for 15 days, then you 
> can return and start the clock over again.  I'm not sure what the similar 
> rule is for Canada.
> 
> Ken H.
> 
>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 21:44, Dave S  wrote:
>> Andy - you might need to make a short trip to st Pierre and Miquelon.  
>> 
>> Eurozone VAT is similar I believe, non-paid boats need to leave briefly and 
>> return to reset the clock (or pay) and paid boats can’t be gone too long or 
>> they lose their paid status.
>>   I think I see a retirement gig in the med in my future!
>> Dave 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:28 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
>>>  Ken,
>>> 
>>> Thank you all of this...everything one could want on the subject matter.
>>> 
>>> Robert Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C 32 - #277
>>> Halifax, N.S. 
>>> 
>>> On 2022-01-15 4:59 p.m., Ken Heaton wrote:
 Further to this, it appears some of Henry's American clients had kept 
 their boats in Canada continuously for up to 18 years without ever 
 actually officially importing them, so never paid import duties: 
 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/tariff-for-non-canadian-boat-owners-threatens-yard-1.1322571
 
 In the long run, the rules were not changed, and this didn't seem to have 
 any lasting effect on Henry's business.  The Cape Breton Boat Yard in 
 Baddeck, Nova Scotia is still in business.
 
 Ken H..
 
 
 
 On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 16:53, Ken Heaton  wrote:
> The "short amount of time" Andrew refers to is one full year (12 months). 
>  The ``newish" law Andrew referred to has been on the books for at least 
> 20 years ( I think since the fall of 1998) but has been spottily 
> enforced. In theory, US boats are not supposed to overwinter (stay longer 
> than 12 months) in Canada without being legally imported and paying duty. 
> But there’s an exception. If a boat needs repairs, it may stay—and the 
> repairs, maintenance and storage of such yachts has been the core 
> business of Henry Fuller of the Cape Breton Boat Yard in Baddeck, Nova 
> Scotia. And though the necessary “repairs” may not have been very 
> extensive, customs officers have never been very exacting about the 
> matter.
> 
> For many years quite a number of American boats spent years on end in 
> Canada without being officially imported, using this loophole that 
> allowed the boats to remain here if "major overhaul" and other large 
> shipyard related jobs were being done to them.  The intention of this 
> rule was to allow shipyards to bid on large projects without having to 
> worry about import duties if the job stretched out beyond 12 months. 
> Legitimate large repairs can be extended beyond 12 months, up to as long 
> as four years (48 months) if required, and permission for the 
> extension(s) is granted.
> 
> This loophole was being abused as many of these boats were really just 
> having light seasonal maintenance done.  Henry Fuller made a public issue 
> of it back in the fall of 2013 and so drew the attention of the 
> government agency tasked with enforcing the law, forcing their hand so 
> enforcement increased as a result.
> 
> Some coverage of Henry's complaints are here: 
> https://www.oceannavigator.com/bad-news-from-baddeck/
> 
> Here is another view: 
> https://contrarian.ca/2013/09/06/how-the-feds-are-killing-a-77-year-old-cape-breton-business/
> 
> Here is a link to the actual rules and information for travellers (note 
> the wording on that page has not needed to been changed since 2014): 
> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/menu-eng.html
> 
> Information about the length of time permitted for repairs are here: 
> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/importation-eng.html
> 
> The actual letter of the law here:
> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-1-1-eng.html
> 

Stus-List Re: Canadian Luxury Tax

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I see the law is 12 months, then pay duty. I spoke to Henry about this and got 
his take on the situation, but also spoke to people in the Halifax area who 
made essentially the same points. And even still, the law precludes what I want 
to do; that is, head to NS early summer and cruise to the area for the summer, 
then lay up over the winter and cruise farther the following summer, a total of 
15 months or so. A broker in Halifax told me that I could probably get away 
with it, but “probably” not losing my boat to the Mounties isn’t good enough.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Jan 15, 2022, at 15:59, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Further to this, it appears some of Henry's American clients had kept their 
> boats in Canada continuously for up to 18 years without ever actually 
> officially importing them, so never paid import duties: 
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/tariff-for-non-canadian-boat-owners-threatens-yard-1.1322571
> 
> In the long run, the rules were not changed, and this didn't seem to have any 
> lasting effect on Henry's business.  The Cape Breton Boat Yard in Baddeck, 
> Nova Scotia is still in business.
> 
> Ken H..
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 16:53, Ken Heaton  wrote:
>> The "short amount of time" Andrew refers to is one full year (12 months).  
>> The ``newish" law Andrew referred to has been on the books for at least 20 
>> years ( I think since the fall of 1998) but has been spottily enforced. In 
>> theory, US boats are not supposed to overwinter (stay longer than 12 months) 
>> in Canada without being legally imported and paying duty. But there’s an 
>> exception. If a boat needs repairs, it may stay—and the repairs, maintenance 
>> and storage of such yachts has been the core business of Henry Fuller of the 
>> Cape Breton Boat Yard in Baddeck, Nova Scotia. And though the necessary 
>> “repairs” may not have been very extensive, customs officers have never been 
>> very exacting about the matter.
>> 
>> For many years quite a number of American boats spent years on end in Canada 
>> without being officially imported, using this loophole that allowed the 
>> boats to remain here if "major overhaul" and other large shipyard related 
>> jobs were being done to them.  The intention of this rule was to allow 
>> shipyards to bid on large projects without having to worry about import 
>> duties if the job stretched out beyond 12 months. Legitimate large repairs 
>> can be extended beyond 12 months, up to as long as four years (48 months) if 
>> required, and permission for the extension(s) is granted.
>> 
>> This loophole was being abused as many of these boats were really just 
>> having light seasonal maintenance done.  Henry Fuller made a public issue of 
>> it back in the fall of 2013 and so drew the attention of the government 
>> agency tasked with enforcing the law, forcing their hand so enforcement 
>> increased as a result.
>> 
>> Some coverage of Henry's complaints are here: 
>> https://www.oceannavigator.com/bad-news-from-baddeck/
>> 
>> Here is another view: 
>> https://contrarian.ca/2013/09/06/how-the-feds-are-killing-a-77-year-old-cape-breton-business/
>> 
>> Here is a link to the actual rules and information for travellers (note the 
>> wording on that page has not needed to been changed since 2014): 
>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/menu-eng.html
>> 
>> Information about the length of time permitted for repairs are here: 
>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/importation-eng.html
>> 
>> The actual letter of the law here:
>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-1-1-eng.html
>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-2-3-eng.html
>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d8/d8-1-1-eng.html
>> 
>> Ken H.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 15:35, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Andrew,
>>> 
>>> I am interested to know more about this CDN Luxury Tax on US boats here in 
>>> Canada for a period of time.  I can't find anything on the CDN Govt 
>>> websites on the law.
>>> 
>>> Do you have a source/ website, anything I can use to get started on finding 
>>> out the specifics?
>>> 
>>> Anything would help.  Thanking you in advnace.
>>> 
>>> Robert Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C 32 - #277
>>> Halifax, N.S. 
>>> 
>>> On 2022-01-12 5:

Stus-List Re: Canadian Luxury Tax

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

There’s also a newish Canadian law that taxes US boats if they are in Canada 
for more than a short amount of time. It has put several yards out of business, 
including a friend in NS who used to work on and store a bunch of US boats very 
winter. 
It put the kibosh on my plans to cruise to Bras D’or one summer, leave the bot 
and then cruise Newfoundland the next summer.
Andy



Andrew Burton
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> On Jan 12, 2022, at 14:47, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> When the US imposed the luxury tax in the 90's or whenever, it put 17,000 
> boat builders in the unemployment line.  Luxury car salespersons also 
> suffered. Legislators and bureaucrats are woefully ignorant of the law of 
> unintended consequences.
> 
> Did it result in increased tax collections?  Not really.  As it only applied 
> to new yachts bought in the US, rich folks simply bought yachts in Europe and 
> brought them home, as I recall.
> 
> Other anecdotal laws we seem to forget: the U shaped curve (governs 
> efficiencies of volume), the 95% rule (it's easy to pick up the first 95% of 
> that pound of sugar you spilled).  And there's always the law above them all, 
> Murphy's Law.
> 
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:33 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> OK, I know I should just get back to work, but this is a very thought 
>> provoking Bill about to take place,
>> 
>> and it is like watching a slow motion train wreck.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The American Version of the 90’s may not have been what completely killed 
>> C, but it certainly guaranteed it.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> What do they say, “Those who do not remember the mistakes of the past are 
>> condemned to repeat them in the future” ?!
>> 
>> It’s been about a generation, long enough to forget, I guess. And Canada has 
>> a lot to lose.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://marinefabricatormag.com/2021/12/20/analysis-shows-canadas-proposed-luxury-tax-will-have-heavy-impact-on-marine-industry/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1991-06-13-9102220626-story.html
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill Coleman
>> 
>> Entrada, Erie, PA
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
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Stus-List Re: Sea stories vs Fairy tales

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Was this owner from Liverpool, by any chance? And were you extremely overhung 
at the time? Because I recal this exact scenario taking place in Annapolis one 
year. Though nothing beats a certain southern gentleman known for both his 
somewhat coarse behavior in social situations and his success on the racecourse 
could be heard to occasionally explain, ‘goddamnit, you guys are makin’ me look 
bad!’ To which it was suggested that he “shut up and drive the boat.”

Merry Christmas, everyone
Andy

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> On Dec 22, 2021, at 01:56, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> It seems a bit quiet on the list…
>  
> The difference between a sea story and a fairy tale:
> A fairy tale begins with “Once upon a time…”
> A sea story begins with “now this ain’t no sh*t…”
>  
> Now this ain’t no sh*t:
>  
> Back in the IOR racing days of the early 80’s I was a card carrying member of 
> the Foredeck Union (abbreviated as FU).  As a FU member in good standing, 
> when on a crew doing the foredeck (Adventure land) duties, I always felt I 
> owned the boat from the mast forward.
>  
> This particular race boat was 54’ custom design with a powerful sail plan to 
> help with the typical light air of the PNW.  With large often heavy sails 
> (including an early Kevlar #3 that seemed to be made of plywood) some sail 
> evolutions took longer than others.  The owner/skipper/tactician (top guy in 
> Fantasy land) was (still is) very competitive, spent considerable $$ for the 
> extra 1/10th knot speed increase, and he thought he owned the entire boat 
> regardless who was on the bow.
>  
> In the middle of a long point to point race with many transitions, head 
> sail/spinnaker/head sail etc., the owner yells something at the foredeck I 
> couldn’t quite hear but maybe something like “a bunch of little girls could 
> hoist that sail faster”. Being a young (ish) arrogant card carrying FU member 
> I responded with a full throated “F*ck you”.
>  
> Fortunately the pit guy was sharp witted and well placed between the foredeck 
> and the cockpit.  When the owner yelled back, rather angrily “what did he 
> say?” the pit guy answers “put up the #2”.
>  
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso
> 1971 C 43
> Port Ludlow/Seattle
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>  
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Stus-List Re: C to race - cold weather discussion topic

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

We Laser sailors got to steer IOR boats downwind a lot due to the Laser’s 
propensity for getting the helmsman a swim if he made a mistake sailing 
downwind. You either got to be a good helmsman or a good swimmer!
Andy

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> On Dec 12, 2021, at 11:34, Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Don't kid yourself-even with the longer rudder they are still amazing 
> broachers! We've had several, including one spectacular one+
> 
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada, Erie PA
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 1:19 AM Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> More often than not both bloopers and staysails seemed to add a quarter knot 
>> going up and a quarter knot coming down.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> One of the best uses of a blooper I experienced early on was during the 
>> windy 1977 Transpac. The C 39 I was on still had the original short, low 
>> aspect ratio rudder and small diameter steering wheel.
>> 
>> In typical trade wind conditions, sailing as close to DDW as possible, the 
>> blooper helped balance the sail plan pulling the bow back down when the boat 
>> was thinking of taking a hard swing to weather.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Those short C 39 rudders embarrassed more that a few helmsmen.  Here in 
>> the PNW, back in the late 70’s there was  4 or 5 C 39’s actively racing 
>> and competitive.  A local sailmaker and rockstar helmsman named Scott Rohrer 
>> (an acquaintance of mine still) was at the helm of a 39 a few boat lengths 
>> behind us. We all had spinnakers up but the conditions were deteriorating. 
>> As the 39 Scott was driving began performing the death roll, we could hear 
>> Scott yelling “I got it, I got it..” just before his boat spun hard to 
>> weather in a full broach.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> For a long time we called Scott “Rodeo Rohrer” as in “going to the rodeo for 
>> a roundup”.  PNW C 39s with the short rudder got a reputation as “broach 
>> coaches” until they received the rudder upgrade.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Martin DeYoung
>> 
>> Calypso
>> 
>> 1971 C 43
>> 
>> Port Ludlow/Seattle
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 4:52 PM
>> To: Stus-List
>> Cc: Fred Hazzard
>> Subject: Stus-List Re: C to race - cold weather discussion topic
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> That all sounds good except the blooper.  
>> 
>> My recollection of using the blooper on my one tonner  was, we went a 
>> quarter knot faster when we put it up and quarter knot faster when we took 
>> it down. The best thing about it was that it kept the crew ingaged trying to 
>> keep it full and out of the water. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Fred Hazzard 
>> 
>> S/V Fury 
>> 
>> C 44
>> 
>> Portland Or 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 11, 2021, at 3:43 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Martin, do I remember correctly; wasn't your boat originally Esta Es from 
>> Lake Michigan?
>> 
>> Ron
>> 
>> Wild Cheri
>> 
>> C 30-1
>> 
>> STL
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 01:51:01 AM CST, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I would go back to a C 39, tall rig, deep rudder and the light weight 
>> Atomic 4 aux engine. Prep it to be fully optimized for its PNW PHRF rating 
>> but include a “penalty pole” and blooper for those long DDW legs. I would 
>> also want the upgraded winch package that included the Barient titanium drum 
>> 3 speed primary winches.
>> 
>> Back in the late 70’s the 39s did well in the typical light air races that 
>> were long enough to experience several changes of current that could keep a 
>> crew of 6 out for 24 to 36 hours in relative comfort. If the wind came up it 
>> could still go upwind without the whole neighborhood camped out on the rail.
>> 
>> Martin DeYoung
>> Calypso 
>> 1971 C 43
>> Port Ludlow/Seattle 
>> 
>> 
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Stus-List Re: C 121 in a pickle

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Folks, if you're thinking about heading offshore, I know Martin has lots of
miles and I've logged nearly half a million miles, and there are a few
others here. He's a good one to answer questions and I'm happy to help with
advice (when I'm not offshore).
Andy

Andrew Burton
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Newport, RI
USA 02840
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phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 3:14 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks for sharing, Randy. As we are seeking our offshore boat, there are
> lots of lessons to be learned from this story, but the opening sentences
> would have had enough red flags to send me running from this boat!
>
> "Calypso’s owner and captain is a 75-year old man who’d never been
> offshore.  He found passage crew on findacrew.net, and they too had never
> been offshore (and in two cases had little sailing experience)."
>
> No offshore experience in a boat not really designed for offshore? What
> were they thinking? I'm glad there were no serious injuries and hope those
> involved will learn from the experience, as in my limited experience, it
> reads like a lesson in what not to do!
>
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 2:30 PM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> Here’s an overdue report on this situation.  Basically a tale of warning
>> about what can go wrong offshore, with potentially very serious
>> consequences.
>>
>> By coincidence a few weeks ago I came into contact on Facebook with one
>> of Calypso’s crew, a retired pediatrician.  We subsequently spoke on the
>> phone, and she documented her experience on her Facebook timeline, which
>> I’ll quote below.
>>
>>
>>
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Stus-List Re: Bermuda return crew 2022

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Great boat, congratulations! Wish I could join you, Joel, but I’ll be leaving 
around then from  Newport in our Bermuda Race on Masquerade. Good luck on both 
legs. 
Andy

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> On Oct 28, 2021, at 19:45, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sounds good 
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 7:35 PM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I would do it no experience yet
>> Not afraid of bad weather 
>> Keep in mind 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 7:05 PM dwight veinot via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Good luck
>>> 
 On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 2:34 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 All,
 
 Our new to us Hylas 49 arrived from California by truck yesterday.  She is 
 well equipped, with a generator, watermaker, SSB, sat phone and all the 
 required safety gear.  She'll have new standing rigging and electronics by 
 spring.
 
 We will be doing the Annapolis Bermuda race on her, and once again I'm 
 looking for return crew with some offshore experience.
 
 We will depart Bermuda around June 17.  It is a 5 day passage (4 if you 
 get off in Norfolk).I pay for provisions, you pay for transportation.
 
 If interested, email me at joel.aron...@gmail.com.
 
 Joel 
 
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>> 
>> www.jdroofing.ca
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Stus-List Re: Bottom Paints Again

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Krylon makes a zinc galvanizing paint that you can find on most hardware store 
spray paint shelves.

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> On Oct 26, 2021, at 06:06, dwight veinot via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Where do you get “zinc paint”?
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 11:40 PM Alan Liles via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Here in Vancouver, my boat guru suggested zinc paint for the prop and shaft. 
>> I wasn’t too sure but now I’ve seen several yards using it. My prop and 
>> shaft come out of the water (yearly) without hard growth on them. I’m sold. 
>> 
>> Al Liles
>> SV Elendil, C 37/40+
>> Vancouver BC
>> 
>> 
 On Oct 25, 2021, at 2:37 PM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Second Petit Prop Paint.  One must be careful with copper based paint on 
>>> stainless and bronze running gear;
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> John and Maryann (dec’d 7/18/2021)
>>> 
>>> Legacy III
>>> 
>>> 1982 C 34
>>> 
>>> Noank, CT
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Neil Andersen via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
>>> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 3:52 PM
>>> To: Stus-List
>>> Cc: Neil Andersen
>>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Bottom Paints Again
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I use Petit prop paint with good results 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Neil Andersen
>>> 
>>> 1982 Ca& C 32, FoxFire
>>> 
>>> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>>> 
>>> From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List 
>>> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 3:36 PM
>>> To: Stus-List
>>> Cc: Dean McNeill
>>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Bottom Paints Again
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> First full season for me with my C 34 and I used Interlux Micron CSC, as 
>>> that’s what the previous owner ’thought’ was on it when I bought it. A good 
>>> friend has also used it on his Tartan 3700 for years with good results.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I used 2 to 3 coats after a light sanding of the previous coat(s) and it 
>>> has worked very well. Five months moored in the Northwest Arm in Halifax NS 
>>> and it was surprisingly super clean when it came out at end of season… a 
>>> little green scum in places but that’s it! Stainless prop shaft was caked 
>>> with barnacles and growth, so I’m guessing bottom paint worked great where 
>>> it was applied!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Does anyone  coat their stainless prop shaft (or brass folding prop) with 
>>> bottom paint?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Dean
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I hate the spin on type as you can’t change the filter easily or without making a mess. And it’s harder to inspect the bowl and the element. On the 500–which I installed on Masquerade—you just take the top off, pull out the element, replace it, and then top off the fuel in the filter with fresh fuel ( I keep a gallon handy for this). Bottom line: I would go with the 500. ( And get rid of the metal fire shield, which only gets in the way of taking a good look at the bowl. If that shield is necessary to prevent a fire melting the bowl , then the fire is too far gone anyway. Just another stupid rule.)AndyMasquerade Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA 02840+401 965 5260https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/On Oct 16, 2021, at 16:44, David Knecht via CnC-List  wrote:I am considering replacing my old Racor primary filter assembly (currently 30 µm filter) with one of the newer ones, but I am unsure what the difference is between them and hoping someone can clarify differences I might not recognize.  I was initially looking at the 500 series turbine units which start around $200.  But there are also 120 series spin on units that are less than $100 and seem like they should work:https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|2349059|2837510=133972#Does anyone know if there is a reason not to use the less expensive models?  I plan to also add a remote vacuum gauge at the helm station if that matters.  Thanks- Dave
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Stus-List Re: Insurance

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I’ve had good luck with Gowrie Group for Masquerade. Reasonable price and rock 
solid policy. Tell Annie Fisher I sent you. 
Andy

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> On Oct 12, 2021, at 13:51, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Info for the list--at least those in NC and maybe the rest of the US.
> 
> Tried to get a Progressive policy for Water Phantom last week and after some 
> delay, the independent agent said that Progressive no longer insures boats 
> (or at least will not write new policies) for boats over 27 feet. 
> 
> Back to square one for me--Water Phantom is 36 ft!
> 
> Charlie Nelson
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Robinson via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Doug Robinson 
> Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 2:51 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance
> 
> OOps,
> Checked in with Progressive this morning and the lad that insisted I was 
> covered for storing in Canada was wrong.  Refund will take 12 to 14 days and 
> required some work to unwind in my paypal account.   So I will move my search 
> to Canadian underwriters, anyone have a favorite in the Niagara or GTA area.  
> Need to check to see if they will cover a 1976 C Mk1 before wasting our  
> time...
> FDR
> On 9/29/21 9:25 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote:
> 
> I've had Progressive for the last twelve years.  Never had a claim.  No 
> survey required during that time.  I got it mostly for liability and becasue 
> marinas require it, but my policy also has a stated "cash value" in case of 
> loss.  Each year the premium drops a little, (like $20) so I always renew.   
> 
> Chuck S
>> On 09/27/2021 4:11 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I too am considering moving to Progressive to save ~ $1200 per year.
>> 
>> I have never had a claim except for towing and now I use Boat-US for 
>> that--$250/year which I may drop.
>> 
>> Before I switch, has anyone had any experience with the claims 
>> procedure/reimbursement from Progressive--good, bad or indifferent?
>> 
>> Saving money on insurance is a fools errand if you have to hire a lawyer to 
>> get them to pay a claim.
>> 
>> Charlie Nelson
>> 36 XL/kcb Water Phantom
>> Greenville, NC 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
>> To: Stus-List 
>> Cc: ALAN BERGEN 
>> Sent: Mon, Sep 27, 2021 1:11 pm
>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance
>> 
>> They didn't ask me for a survey. 
>> Alan Bergen
>> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>> Rose City YC
>> Portland, OR 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 9:48 AM Matthew via CnC-List  
>> wrote: 
>> When I switched to Progressive this year, I was told that the underwriting 
>> department would review the application and decide if a survey was needed.  
>> After reviewing the application, they decided a survey was not needed.
>>  
>> Matt Wolford
>> 1976 C 42 Custom
>>  
>> From: Glenn Henderson via CnC-List  
>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 10:57 AM 
>> To: Stus-List  
>> Cc: Glenn Henderson  
>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance
>>  
>> Did they require a full survey?
>>  
>> Glenn and Lindsey Henderson
>> C 41
>> WeGo
>>  
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 3:48 PM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I recently received a renewal notice from GEICO (BoatUS). They said my 
>> insurance premium was reduced (from $1256 to $1226/year). Just for a check, 
>> I asked Progressive for a quote. Their price for the same amount of 
>> insurance was $487/year. I am now a Progressive customer.
>>  
>> Alan Bergen
>> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>> Rose City YC
>> Portland, OR
>>  
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Stus-List Re: Perfect boat

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

This was written a couple of years before I found my 40. Obviously when I wrote 
it I had the 40 in mind mind! 
https://www.sailmagazine.com/cruising/cruising-criteria-how-to-pick-the-best-cruiser

Andy

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> On Sep 30, 2021, at 07:45, JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> From a 1971 article in "Die Jacht" - Germany
> 
> Yacht: Will there be the ideal boat one day? 
> 
> George Cuthbertson : Yes. If we succeed to answer the categorical desire of 
> our customers to construct a boat which is larger inside than outside and , 
> of course , faster than anybody else.
> 
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Stus-List Re: Diesel smell in clothes

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Had the same problem after a fuel incident on a powerboat. The stuff sold
at Walmart to get rid of pet vomit smell called "Kids and Pets" is what
eventually worked.
Andy

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On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 8:30 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> All that work on the fuel system left me with some clothes that smell of
> diesel. They got washed normally and now all the cotton clothes from that
> load smell like diesel.  Anyone have any DIY tricks for getting diesel
> smell out in the laundry?  I saw vinegar and baking soda in a Google
> search, but it did not sound particularly effective.  Thanks- Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
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Stus-List Re: Windcheck Magazine

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I delivered that boat to RI from St John NB for Chip. Great sailing boat very 
sweet to steer and very well mannered. 
Andy

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> On Sep 23, 2021, at 15:12, Richard Bush via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> This month's issue (September) of Windcheck Magazine has an awesome photo of 
> C 41, skippered by Chip Hawkins, and he won his division to boot! 
> Congrats Chip!
> 
> here's the link; 
> https://www.windcheckmagazine.com/article/edgartown-race-weekend/
> 
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 584.4
> 
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
> 
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Stus-List Re: C 40 TRDK

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

And here’s what I wrote for Cruising World https://www.cruisingworld.com/cc-40/

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> On Sep 18, 2021, at 09:46, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Graham,
> 
> I'm guessing you have already seen this Practical Sailor article?
> 
> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sailboat-reviews/used_sailboats/cc-40-still-turning-heads
> 
> Ken H.
> 
>> On Sat, 18 Sept 2021 at 10:08, Graham Collins via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Any C 40 owners on the list willing to offer opinions on this model?  
>> There is one local to me that might be worth a look. The good, the bad, 
>> hidden things to look for?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Graham Collins
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Stus-List Re: C 40 TRDK

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I had one and loved her. The only reason I sold her was for Baltic 47 that was 
too good to miss.
I sailed my dktr 40 a lot. She was easy to singlehand. I delighted in the fact 
that she sailed so well in the lightest breeze and felt sold and fast when the 
breeze was on. Splendid boat; comfy to cruise and live aboard for weeks at a 
time, with a great galley and roomy saloon and plenty of storage.we did most of 
our cruising with just a #3 on the headstay and found it perfectly adequate and 
when we went to the 150% genoa we did well in races. I’d buy another in a 
heartbeat.

Andy
Baltic 47 Masquerade
Currently cruising in Maine

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> On Sep 18, 2021, at 09:07, Graham Collins via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Any C 40 owners on the list willing to offer opinions on this model?  There 
> is one local to me that might be worth a look. The good, the bad, hidden 
> things to look for?
> 
> -- 
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Stus-List Re: Boat Donation to Charity?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Edd, I got my boat from Mass Maritime. Good bunch and I suspect they would be 
very glad to get a boat like yours.  Ian MacLeod is the contact there.

Andy

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> On Sep 11, 2021, at 11:15, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Any suggestions on a good charity to donate a boat to? Preferably one that 
> will actually use the boat instead of selling it for charity funds (Fair 
> market value deduction)
> 
> It looks like things are moving forward with the next Enterprise and I’d like 
> to avoid paying two insurance and slip bills. 
> 
> (Meaning: Yes, I will sell this boat for dirt cheap at this point. Bring 
> offers!)
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 33-II vs 35-II now race course design

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Joe, Kenny Read agrees with you. He wrote an article to that effect some months 
ago. 

Andy

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> On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:35, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have been in races that were almost 100% downwind or 100% upwind, thanks to 
> perfect timing of wind shifts. Somehow it worked out and the PHRF ratings are 
> what they are and we dealt with it.
> 
> I know many people disagree, but IMHO making big boat racing resemble dinghy 
> racing and making dinghy racing a science experiment with perfect upwind and 
> downwind legs has not been a good thing at all. I once had 3 dinghy fleets 
> and sent the Lasers reaching up the river a bit to deconflict them with the 
> other fleets and I never heard so much whining – we can’t sail on a REACH! It 
> turned out you actually can if the RC makes you 
> 
> YMMV
> 
> Joe
> 
> Coquina
> 
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Stus-List Re: 84 Landfall 35 vs 91 Morris Justine 36

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Dwight, that doesn’t apply to me. I’m not like that. Besides my boat is so fast 
it’s never much of a contest. 

Andy

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> On Sep 9, 2021, at 16:03, dwight veinot via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> For some of us a race starts every time another sail is in sight. I am a 
> little bit of that vintage lately having become more selective based on 
> potential boat speed or phrases numbers. The landfalls are great C’s. I had 
> a landfall 35 close by me in the yard. Nice and the 38 too. I like the ways 
> my 35MKII flies on that tack. Waterline length is important but sail trim and 
> crew work snd helm control are important. Get the boat in the groove on that 
> tack probably she’ll let you know
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:05 PM Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Always pleasantly surprised at the speed of the C This past Sunday with 
>> 10 to 15kn  wind I was sailing from Shelter Island with a friend in a 92 
>> Morris Justine.  On the a 13 mile run between Orient Point and Westbrook CT 
>> on a beam to close reach the C Landfall consistently outpaced the Morris. 
>> By the end we were probably close to 3/4 mile ahead.
>> 
>> I though weight might be the biggest factor but the sail area to 
>> displacement favored the Morris??  Does this come down to hull shape?  Not 
>> sure I was out sailing him as I think he was pretty dialed in as well.   I 
>> suppose the Morris may be more built for offshore maybe??  Would love some 
>> thoughts from the group!
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!!
>> 
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Stus-List Re: Boat trucking recommendations

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I think I might avoid the low bidder for something like that!

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On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 1:02 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Steve,
>
> I've been looking for a company to move a 49 foot boat east that we are
> looking at.  I got two bids - $14,000 and $26,000.  Low bid was from
> wemoveboats.com through uship.com
>
>
> Joel
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:55 PM Steve Thomas via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> A friend of mine with a 35-foot sailboat wants to move it from Cape
>> Canaveral to San Diego. She is a bit frail to be sailing it back herself or
>> she would be doing that. Anyway, the prices she has found so far are rather
>> high. A New York based company quoted her $25,000 USD.
>>
>> A different friend had his 35 foot Hughes trucked from Miami to
>> Southwestern Ontario a few months ago for $7,000 CAD, so that seems a bit
>> much. Unfortunately, that company is Canadian and can't do point-to-point
>> shipping within the United States.
>>
>> Any recommendations or anecdotal experience would be helpful. I know that
>> several people on (or who were on) the list have looked into this or done
>> similar moves themselves.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Steve Thomas
>>
>> C MKI 1980, C MKIII 1978
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>
>
> --
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Stus-List Re: Checking the list

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Getting to NS and NFLD is on the list for next year...if all this covid
nonsense is over with!

Andy


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On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 8:12 AM Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi adam,
>
> Have you been to the Crammond Islands yet:
> http://www.cruising-cape-breton.info/charts/Crammond.pdf
>
> from: http://www.cruising-cape-breton.info/
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 18:38, Adam Hayden via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> We are currently on a two week tour of the Bras D'or lakes in Nova Scotia
>> sitting in an isolated anchorage enjoying cocktails in the cockpit.
>> For those of you that cruise the lakes are probably one of the best
>> cruising areas in North America.(well I am biased)
>>
>> We had a wicked sail yesterday hitting 9.8 as we surfed down a wave.
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam Hayden
>> C 36
>> State of Bliss
>> Pictou NS
>>
>> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.
>> --
>> *From:* Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 1, 2021 6:20:08 PM
>> *To:* Stus-List 
>> *Cc:* Korbey Hunt 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Checking the list
>>
>> 65* and light winds here in Ketchikan, AK
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android 
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>> *From:* Bill Dakin via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:14:08 AM
>> *To:* Stus-List 
>> *Cc:* Bill Dakin 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Checking the list
>>
>> Join the sweltering club. 103 heat index and 75 degree dewpoint. Add the
>> solar radiation and melt.
>>
>> Bill Dakin
>>
>> > On Aug 1, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Our sailing days are gone for a couple months. Its running 95 + * and
>> very iffy breeze or full blown gales. Cant wait for Fall
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Stus-List Re: Wire vs. Dyneema check stays

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I just finished splicing some dyneema for the running backstays for my
Baltic 47. I assume that's what you are calling check stays. So yes, I
think Dyneema's a much better option than wire. We use the boat mostly for
coastal cruising, occasional ocean racing, and occasional ocean passages.
Just FYI check stays are the lower running backstays. On a Star, the
running backstays control headstay tension while the checks control mast
bend and are an integral part of sail trim.
On our boats the runners stop the inner forestay from bending the mast too
much when we are using a staysail and also stop the mast pumping when we
are beating in waves (which is my most common use). We use the backstay for
headstay tension and the runners can stop the backstay from bending the
mast too much.
Andy
Baltic 47 Masquerade
Formerly of C 40 Peregrine

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On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:45 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Do you actually use these? Our frers 33 has check stays and although they
> help with main shape we rarely use them due to added complications tacking
> etc
>
> Mike
> Peraiatence
> Halifax
> --
> *From:* cenelson via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* July 23, 2021 9:26:54 PM
> *To:* Stus-List
> *Cc:* cenelson
> *Subject:* Stus-List Wire vs. Dyneema check stays
>
>
> I have decided to replace my standing rigging on Water Phantom, my now 26
> yr old 1995 C XL/kcb.
>
> The rigger has recommended staying with a rod replacement vs. wire to
> better match the rod fittings, esp. at the mast head and to save money.
>
> He also recommends going with dyneema, instead of wire, for the check
> stays.
>
> My concern is uv damage to the dyneema which I understand has been a
> problem with using it vs. wire.
>
> His response is that the early coatings used to protect dyneema led to
> short lifetimes but that the newer coatings have solved that problem.
>
> OTOH, my wire check stays are still fine “…after all these years…”
>
> My question is should I go with dyneema for the checks or stay with new
> wire assuming the costs are similar?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie Nelson
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
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Stus-List Re: Anchor

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I traded in my CQR for a Manson Supreme a couple of years ago and have been
very pleased with it after being a CQR guy for decades.
Andy
Baltic 47 Masquerade

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On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 8:13 AM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Give been told my 22# Danforth anchor with 15 ft of chain is too small
> for  is too small for my 34 ft C in SE Alaska. I have a spare stainless
> 35 lb CQR  anchor on my trawler in MX.  Would this be a better choice?
> Anyone have thoughts on the matter.
>
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Stus-List Re: New Foresail.

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I just ordered a new main from Jenkins Sails in Easton, MD. I chose to go
with GPL Lite Skin fabric for its longevity, ability to hold its shape,
ease of handling (much lighter than Dacron), and abrasion resistance.
Great price; and Jenkins came highly recommended; he was the sailmaker at
the naval academy for many years.
Tell him I told you to call.
Andy
Baltic 47 Masquerade

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On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 11:36 PM Dave S via CnC-List 
wrote:

> This year I  ordered a ‘performance cruising’ radial cut #2 Genoa from
> rolly tasker sails in Thailand - second sail from them, no regrets at all.
>
> Dave
> 33-2
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 10, 2021, at 10:22 PM, Korbey Hunt via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Im looking online for a new foresail for my 1980  34 C  New prices run
> from $2 to $4,000.  Where do I start?
>
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Stus-List Re: Radar Mount

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I like that option better than a mast mount if it's viable. Just make sure
the antenna is high enough that it's not zapping people standing on the bow
or by the mast!
Andy
Formerly of C 40 Peregrine
Now Baltic 47 Masquerade

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On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 3:45 PM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I know  it is traditional to mount radar on the mast but I am thinking of
> mounting it on a post on the stern with an antenna farm.  Any thoughts on
> this option?
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Stus-List Re: Seawater pump

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I have a deck wash pump to spray mud off my anchor.

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> On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:31, Rob Hamlin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Why would one want to have sea water come into the boat besides a head flush?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:24 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have a foot pump for sea water and a foot pump for fresh water. I can also 
>> switch between fresh and sea water for my pressure water.
>> 
>> Alan Bergen
>> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>> Rose City YC
>> Portland, OR
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 8:08 AM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> My foot pump is fresh water. 
>>> 
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>>> From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
>>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:11:22 AM
>>> To: CnC CnC discussion list 
>>> Cc: David Knecht 
>>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Seawater pump
>>>  
>>> Thanks for the quick answer.  It makes some sense, but I am pretty sure the 
>>> foot pump in the galley is sea water so this seems redundant, but I guess 
>>> sometimes you want more water than the foot pump would easily deliver.  
>>> Dave 
>>> PS- Our foot pump has a piece of rubber pipe insulation over it after 
>>> numerous scraped ankles.  I am guessing others have done the same.
>>> 
>>> S/V Aries
>>> 1990 C 34+
>>> New London, CT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 25, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
 We wash dishes with sea water and rinse with fresh water
 
 Joel
 
 On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:31 AM David Knecht via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 My boat came with a pump with coiled hose and spray nozzle in the area 
 near the sink through-hull that is plumbed to a through-hull to seawater.  
 I have never used it and am not sure what one would do with sea water 
 pumped into the cabin in this location.  Any hints?  Thanks- Dave
 
 S/V Aries
 1990 C 34+
 New London, CT
 
 
 
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Seawater pump

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

A mate of mine was delivering a raceboat into St Pete, Fla for SORC one night. 
He was dragging the dinner saucepan behind the boat when the coast guard hailed 
him to tell him they were doing one of their armed midnight "safety checks." 
He replied "OK, but watch out for the pot behind the boat." 
Oops.

Andy

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> On Jun 25, 2021, at 09:39, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Offshore you many want saltwater for dishwashing except the final rinse. We 
> generally don’t carry enough fresh water for long passages as it is without 
> doing the dishes in all fresh water. I had a big net bag I used to through 
> all the dishes in and just drag them for a bit. That worked great until I was 
> washing a pot that had beef stew in it and if I hadn’t been quick a shark 
> would have made off with the pot and maybe my hand too!
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: David Knecht via CnC-List  
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 9:31 AM
> To: CnC CnC discussion list 
> Cc: David Knecht 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Seawater pump
>  
> My boat came with a pump with coiled hose and spray nozzle in the area near 
> the sink through-hull that is plumbed to a through-hull to seawater.  I have 
> never used it and am not sure what one would do with sea water pumped into 
> the cabin in this location.  Any hints?  Thanks- Dave
>  
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Edson Acquired

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Everybody is aware that Rob Ball, our favorite yacht designer, works at Edson, 
right?
Andy

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> On Jun 2, 2021, at 20:32, Robert Abbott via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Chuck et al,
> Yes, good to hear Edison has transferred ownership to those that will 
> maintain stewardship and tradition and not to a Gordon Gicco (Wall Street) 
> who will slice and dice the company simply for profit .  
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2021-06-02 5:19 p.m., Novabraid via CnC-List wrote:
>> Chip is a good guy and a life long one design and big boat sailor.  As a 
>> former Edson employee, I’m very happy the company didn’t get purchased by 
>> some private equity firm looking to trim the fat and flip the company to 
>> somebody looking to own a marine company as a hobby job.
>> Will and his brother Hank never viewed their tenure with Edson as ownership. 
>>  They preferred to use the term stewardship to keep the traditions and 
>> history of a very old and diverse company moving through to the future.
>> Wishing Chip and company to continue to innovate and provide the same high 
>> standards of quality and customer service as his predecessors.
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>> S/V Half Magic
>> 1983 LF 35
>> Padanaram, MA
>>  
>>  
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Stus-List Re: Documenting the boat

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Thank you, all. I'll give it a shot.
I'm always amazed at how easy it is to get answers from the collected wisdom 
here.
Andy

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> On May 14, 2021, at 23:45, detroito91--- via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I did It and it was quite simple.  Use the coast guard website as a guide.
> Sent the required copies and a check. 3 weeks later doc certificate in mail.
> Jim Schwartz 
> SEA YA ! II
> 
> Sent from the all new AOL app for Android
> 
> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 3:36 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List
>  wrote:
> Maybe my experience was not typical, but it was pretty easy if you have the 
> required documents referred to on the USCG site. 
> Proof of ownership and any PO liens released then a transfer form if she is 
> already documented and you’re there. 
> Takes a while and was regular mail a few years ago, but not hard to do. 
> Good luck,
> Chuck Borge
> C
> Tenacious
> Somerset, MA
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 14, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  So my “charter” is up and I now officially own Masquerade. Now I have to 
>> document her. How difficult is the process to do yourself? Any tips or 
>> advice would be much appreciated. 
>> I could use a service but the president of our local service has always been 
>> pretty miserable to deal with so I don’t particularly want to spend my money 
>> there. 
>> Andy
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA 02840
>> 
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Stus-List Documenting the boat

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

So my “charter” is up and I now officially own Masquerade. Now I have to 
document her. How difficult is the process to do yourself? Any tips or advice 
would be much appreciated. 
I could use a service but the president of our local service has always been 
pretty miserable to deal with so I don’t particularly want to spend my money 
there. 
Andy

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Stus-List Re: Auto pilot???

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I had an under deck raymarine pilot on my 40. The linear drive worked like a 
champ. Fast enough to drive in large quartering seas. I think I had the 6000
I have a refurbished raymarine linear drive on my Baltic 47 drives by a B 
pilot. Works like a champ even offshore, including 1000 miles DDW from the VI 
to Cuba a couple of years ago. 

Andy

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> On Apr 19, 2021, at 11:18, Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> You just missed a listing on FleaBay for a nearly new B compass, Pilot 
> Control, and 12V hydraulics for $1600.
> The ST4000+ worked like a charm on my 39, but the rudder and boat were nearly 
> perfectly balanced, so there was very little effort required of it.
>  
>  
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada, Erie, PA
>  
>  
>  
> From: Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 11:11 AM
> To: Stus-List
> Cc: ted_reli...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Stus-List Auto pilot???
>  
> I am looking for suggestions on an auto pilot for our 40-2. I don't think the 
> Raymarine wheel pilot will work good enough. Anybody got suggestions on 
> either s wheel mount or a quadrant mount. What do you use???  Also I would 
> like to be able to connect to my B Zues3 down the line.  Thanks for any 
> input. 
> Ted
> Ten-Ten
> Punta Gorda,Fl. 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Information

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Can you find them? Yes. That’s how I got my Baltic 47. Check the Mass Maritime 
site. 
If you buy a donated boat, prepare to roll up your sleeves and do some serious 
work on it. 
Andy


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> On Apr 11, 2021, at 14:00, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Can I get a donation boat 40 feet
>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 1:32 PM Don Kern via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Ted,
>> 
>> Magic Dragon (HIN: ZCC40117M81F) was a USCG documented vessel # 637267 which 
>> had it's last Certificate of Document (COD) issued in 1999.  You should be 
>> able to get a copy of the original documentation from  USCG's National 
>> Vessel Documentation Center < 
>> https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Our-Organization/Deputy-for-Operations-Policy-and-Capabilities-DCO-D/National-Vessel-Documentation-Center/
>>  >  To do so apply for an "Abstract of Title" (CG-1332) for $25.00 and it 
>> will provide the original seller, owner(s) and home port(s) up to 1999.  Can 
>> you provide me with her current name, home berth and Yacht Club ?
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Don Kern
>> Fireball, C Mk2
>> Bristol, RI
>> 
>> On 4/9/2021 8:33 AM, ted_relinda--- via CnC-List wrote:
>>> We are hoping that maybe there is a  member who remembers our vessel.  She 
>>> is a 1981 C 40-2 hull # 117. We believe she was manufactured under the 
>>> name of Magic Dragon, due to the location of name on build parts. We 
>>> aquired her when she was donated  to our local sailing center. There was no 
>>> paperwork other than the owners manual with her and a receipt for 
>>> batteries.  There is an indication that she was in the NE area possibly New 
>>> Jersey. Any information on her that we can get would be greatly 
>>> appreciated.  Thank you-. Relinda
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
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Stus-List Re: um From richard - now Airhead

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

When I switch my head to use fresh water, the flow is supplied by my regular 
fresh water pump. I can see no reason not to plumb it that way. Most boats 
follow suit. There is no way effluent could get into the FW system.
Andy

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> On Apr 6, 2021, at 17:34, Dave Godwin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> No.
> 
> It’s completely isolated/dedicated.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2021, at 16:56, David Risch via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I hope you not sourcing water from that port water tank.  Was told to never 
>> source fresh water flush from a tank you may be using for consumption, 
>> washing etc.  I plumbed a fresh water flush via sink drain “T”.   Easily 
>> found on internet.
>>  
>> From: Dave Godwin via CnC-List  
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 3:40 PM
>> To: C List 
>> Cc: Dave Godwin 
>> Subject: Stus-List Re: From richard - now Airhead
>>  
>> Perhaps another route to consider is converting to a fresh water system. On 
>> our new boat a previous owner converted the sea-water Lavac vacuum head to 
>> freshwater, the source being the port side water tank. Seems to be very good 
>> at keeping the odor down although we haven’t had the boat through a summer 
>> season yet.
>>  
>> Dave Godwin
>> 1982 C 37 - Ronin
>> 1998 Mast & Mallet Thomas Point 34 - Katana
>> Reedville, VA
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 6, 2021, at 3:00 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> Note to self – keep old head.
>>  
>>  
>> Joe Della Barba
>> Coquina C 35 MK I
>> Kent Island MD USA
>>  
>>  
>> From: Neil Andersen via CnC-List  
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 2:13 PM
>> To: Stus-List 
>> Cc: Della Barba, Joe ; Neil Andersen 
>> 
>> Subject: Stus-List Re: From richard - now Airhead
>>  
>> FYI.  As a broker, we are finding that composting head make a boat harder to 
>> sell.
>>  
>> Neil Andersen
>> S Yachts
>> 443-321-1969
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Stus-List Re: Heavy spinnaker sizing vs medium/light for 33-2

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Dennis, either that or just set her up by the lee and boogie with the weather 
rail awash! :)
We actually went wing and wing  by the lee for a couple of miles with the 
asymmetric kite on the Baltic 47 in a windy race last summer. But Masquerade is 
post IOR and a lot easier to keep on the edge without going over than, say, the 
C 40.

Andy

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> On Apr 6, 2021, at 15:55, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> A heavy weather chute should have narrow shoulders.  It should be fully 
> hoisted.  Failure to fully hoist in heavy weather will increase the potential 
> for oscillation and loss of control.
> 
> While we're on heavy weather spin flying, on Touche', we never ever let the 
> center seam cross to the weather side of the forestay.  That is, we prefer a 
> slightly reaching trim as opposed to a dead downwind trim.  Trimming the 
> chute's center seam to weather of the forestay increases the chances of 
> oscillation and ultimately a death roll.  
> 
> I'd rather broach than do a death roll!
> 
> To answer the question, talk to your sailmaker.  This chute sounds a wee bit 
> short to me.
> 
>   -- 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 11:22 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Bruno,
>> 
>> Sounds about right.  Just don't hoist the chute to the masthead.
>> 
>> Joel
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 10:42 AM Bruno Lachance via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Question for the spinnaker gurus of the group:
>>> 
>>> The light/medium sym spinfor my 33-2 has a luff/leech lenght of 44 ft and a 
>>> foot of 23.3 ft. This is a sail designed for this boat
>>> 
>>> I'm looking at a used spin that seems to be a heavier cloth, that would be 
>>> used as a S-3. The dimensions are Luff: 40.8 / foot: 21.5 
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Heavy spinnaker sizing vs medium/light for 33-2

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Sounds like what we used to call a “Chicken chute,” Bruno. 
A heavy air kite should be narrower at the top and flatter than than your 
regular kite... do hoist it all the way up or you will find it will oscillate 
more and steer the boat for you...perhaps in directions you don’t want to go! 
Three feet shy on the hoist sounds a bit small to me, but maybe go and hoist 
the end of your pole up three feet while you’re at the dock and see what you 
think. You should be able to make the foot length work. 
Andy

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> On Apr 6, 2021, at 12:22, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Bruno,
> 
> Sounds about right.  Just don't hoist the chute to the masthead.
> 
> Joel
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 10:42 AM Bruno Lachance via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Question for the spinnaker gurus of the group:
>> 
>> The light/medium sym spinfor my 33-2 has a luff/leech lenght of 44 ft and a 
>> foot of 23.3 ft. This is a sail designed for this boat
>> 
>> I'm looking at a used spin that seems to be a heavier cloth, that would be 
>> used as a S-3. The dimensions are Luff: 40.8 / foot: 21.5 
>> 
>> Is this acceptable for a smaller heavier chute or is it too short and the 
>> pole will be too high ? 
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Bruno Lachance
>> Bécassine, 33-2
>> New-Richmond, Qc
>> 
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> 
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Stus-List Re: White vinegar

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

On any professionally run boat you’ll find vinegar and water 50/50 mix is used 
for wiping down any interior varnished surfaces. It is the best for getting rid 
of fingerprints, etc. and doesn’t wreck the finish as cleaners like 409 will. 
Andy

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> On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:10, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> White vinegar is a solvent for uncured epoxy.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:01 AM Fred Hazzard via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> As senior citizen I suffer from the dreaded malady 
>> CRS. 
>> Yesterday while visiting Fury I found a gallon of white vinegar. 
>> Hopefully, one of you can remind me what is for. 
>> Thanks
>> Fred Hazzard 
>> SV Fury
>> C 44
>> Portland, Or 
>> 
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Stus-List Re: 40 or 41?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Sensible decision, David. :)
Andy

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> On Mar 30, 2021, at 07:01, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Looked at a 41.   Nope.   Got me a 40.  
> 
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
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Stus-List Re: 40 or 41?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Someone is trying to start a fight! :)
The 40 is certainly and objectively the best looking of all the C 
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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 13:47, Rod Stright via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> C 41 much nicer lines and performance.  Took mine to the Caribbean and back 
> from Halifax, very capable in sever sea and wind conditions up to 70 knots.
>  
> From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List  
> Sent: March-29-21 12:49 PM
> To: 'Stus-List' 
> Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
> Subject: Stus-List 40 or 41?
>  
> Is there any clear advantage to the 41 over the 40 or vice versa?
> Thanks!
>  
> Joe
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Stus-List Re: turnbuckle lube

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Lanocoat or Tef-Gel

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> On Mar 25, 2021, at 23:52, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Joel asked a good question.
>  
> What's the best lubricant for turnbuckles?
>  
>  
>> On 03/25/2021 6:42 PM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> Should the turnbuckle be greased or oiled
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 5:03 PM Nathan Post via CnC-List < 
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> Joe,
>>  
>> It may take some searching to find someone who will work on older rod 
>> rigging but they do exist. Here in the Boston area, North East Rigging out 
>> of Concord MA has this expertise. Call around and hopefully you can find 
>> someone in your area who can do the work. Does it save money in the end vs 
>> going with a newer dyneema solution - I am not sure and it will depend on 
>> what problems the rigger runs into as they go along?  Inspection is a 
>> challenge if the rig hasn't been taken apart in a while - last year on my 
>> 1981 C a lot of my fittings were seized and could not be inspected so 
>> that did require complete disassembly and reheading all of the rods.  One 
>> rod had to be replaced as did the turnbuckles and the fittings on the end of 
>> the spreader.  The spreaders ended up being a lot of work and parts because 
>> the threads stripped on a part and no replacement was available.  
>> Replacement parts then required machining the ends of the spreaders.  Also 
>> the aluminum through bolts in the mast all had to be replaced which required 
>> custom machining of the ends to accommodate replacement stainless steel 
>> threaded. Including a new wire forestay and harken furler it came to ~$12k 
>> for all the parts and labor including setting up and tuning the rig. The rod 
>> rigging does seem to last a long time so I am hopeful that this will be good 
>> to go for many years to come.
>>  
>> Nathan
>>  
>> ~~~
>> S/V Wisper
>> 1981 C 34 CB
>> Lynn MA
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Stus-List Re: C 40 rigging

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I had mine inspected and some reheaded about five years ago on my 1981 40. We 
had to replace the D3/V2 because when it was reheaded the fitting where it went 
around the spreader would have been in a different place. I think we replaced 
some turnbuckles, too. Just did something similar with my 1995 Baltic two years 
ago. I am pretty sure you will not have to replace all the rod. The area to 
really look at is the spreader tips and the fittings there.

Andy

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> On Mar 25, 2021, at 14:59, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ran into a snag:
> The rigging shop I called told me rod rigging from 1981 was NOT going to pass 
> their survey just from age and some the fittings used back then could not be 
> inspected, taking them apart is a one-way trip. Does anyone have an idea on 
> the longevity of rod and the cost to replace it all?
> It doesn’t have to be rod again, does it? Dynaform wire or Dyneema maybe?
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina C 35 MK I
> Kent Island MD USA
>  
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Stus-List Re: Cape May bridge clearance

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Charles, what sources are you using for the C May bridges? NOAA charts list 
them as 55’ at high water.
Andy

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> On Mar 23, 2021, at 10:12, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe,
> What's your air draft?  Mine is 54'
>  
> You can't overcome physics.   I've done the Cape May canal bridges many 
> times.  There are two bridges over it and a railway swing bridge that remains 
> open cause it's broke.  Sources list Cape May Parkway and Seashore Rd bridge 
> height at 50' or 52.5' and there is a graduated table at the base of the 
> bridge.  The water level shows the actual clearance.  The tidal range is 4.5' 
> in this area and I would time my trips so the tide is low or close to it and 
> find 57+ feet at the bridge.  This works the best for climbing the Delaware 
> River.  When motoring at 6 knots hullspeed, the favorable current gave me 8.4 
> knots Speed Over Ground on GPS.
>  
> There is another challenge to running the canal at low water; running 
> aground.  The bottom is muddy, so backing out or spinning usually get you 
> clear.  Keep your speed low so you The ferries really kick up the sand where 
> they dock and it forms a sandbar on the opposite side of the channel.  So 
> favor the side where the ferries dock.  Be mindful, if they blast their horn, 
> they are backing out, so U-turn and hold off till one leaves.   
>  
> Note: Heading West, the tide can give a boost for eight hours or more.  It's 
> like riding a wave that's travelling West (turn of the Earth).   I've had a 
> favorable tide the whole way from Cape May to the C Canal.  Heading the 
> opposite direction the tide is favorable for less time, like four hours, 
> because you're travelling East and the wave passes under you in the opposite 
> direction.  Sucks but true.  Heading that way, I would consult Reed's and use 
> math to leave the C so I would arrive at Cape May at low tide or just after 
> it to use the canal.  If I arrive more than two hours before Low, I wait.  If 
> it's more than two hours after low, I go around.  There is a channel along 
> the beach but I'm not sure if it's marked.  Hopefully others will chime in.
>  
>  
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C 34R, Pasadena, Md
>>  
>>  
>> Have you ever gone into Cape May? I have hit the bridge with my VHF antenna 
>> going through the canal. No harm done, but that would have been a bad time 
>> for a big wake! Quite a sight to see the antenna going ting-ting-ting across 
>> the girders up there.
>> 
>> There is a bridge in Florida on the Okeechobee canal that is a bit low and I 
>> think the marina near there will come out and hook a big weight to your 
>> halyard to heel the boat over to get under it.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> Coquina
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: G Donald Wagner via CnC-List  
>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:28 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: G Donald Wagner 
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 40
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My C 41 CB with a tall rig draws 4'11" with the board up,7' 10" with the 
>> board down, according to the data brochure.
>> 
>> I've tested it here on the Bay many times and believe the Brochure.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On the other end, the quoted Bridge clearance is 60'4"' per the brochure. 
>> I've never tested it , but believe it is correct, not allowing for the 
>> Windex or the Wind direction/Wind speed Instrument. 
>> 
>> The instrumentation  may add another 12 -14'". So, if you believe the corps 
>> of Engineers the 65" along most of the ICW will be ok!  Of course, near 
>> Miami and on the Okeechobee Waterway where, it's often stated to be 55" , 
>> will be a problem!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Just my .02 cents worth
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Don Wagner
>> 
>> C
>> 
>> Der Baron 
>> 
>> on the West River of the Chesapeake Bay
>> 
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Stus-List Re: Now bridge clearance

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I did the entire ICW from Norfolk to Ft Lauderdale in November. Some of the 
supposed 65’ bridges only showed 62’ on the gauges. The one in C May is a 55’ 
clearance at high tide, I believe. That canal is a nice short cut rather than 
going out and around the cape. In case anyone is curious, I take the passage 
between the shoals marked on the charts as Cape May Channel. Lots of water, but 
you want to be right on top of your navigation for and hour or so!
Andy

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> On Mar 23, 2021, at 08:51, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> My 35/3 cleared the Cape May bridge, but the tide was not high.  It was close.
> 
>   Virus-free. www.avg.com
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>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Have you ever gone into Cape May? I have hit the bridge with my VHF antenna 
>> going through the canal. No harm done, but that would have been a bad time 
>> for a big wake! Quite a sight to see the antenna going ting-ting-ting across 
>> the girders up there.
>> 
>> There is a bridge in Florida on the Okeechobee canal that is a bit low and I 
>> think the marina near there will come out and hook a big weight to your 
>> halyard to heel the boat over to get under it.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> Coquina
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: G Donald Wagner via CnC-List  
>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:28 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: G Donald Wagner 
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 40
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My C 41 CB with a tall rig draws 4'11" with the board up,7' 10" with the 
>> board down, according to the data brochure.
>> 
>> I've tested it here on the Bay many times and believe the Brochure.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On the other end, the quoted Bridge clearance is 60'4"' per the brochure. 
>> I've never tested it , but believe it is correct, not allowing for the 
>> Windex or the Wind direction/Wind speed Instrument. 
>> 
>> The instrumentation  may add another 12 -14'". So, if you believe the corps 
>> of Engineers the 65" along most of the ICW will be ok!  Of course, near 
>> Miami and on the Okeechobee Waterway where, it's often stated to be 55" , 
>> will be a problem!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Just my .02 cents worth
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Don Wagner
>> 
>> C
>> 
>> Der Baron 
>> 
>> on the West River of the Chesapeake Bay
>> 
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Stus-List Re: C 40

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I've carried 8’ from Beaufort, NC to Norfolk several times recently. Farther 
South might be a challenge.
Andy

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> On Mar 22, 2021, at 11:41, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I'd be more worried about water draft than air draft in the ICW with a fixed 
> keel boat.
> 
> Andy, I know its a tough job ...  Besides, too cold to sail in Newport.
> 
> Joel
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:36 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I think the tall rig on the 40 is fine for the ICW. 
>> I loved that boat. She gave me few excuses to use the engine, even in light 
>> airs if I looked at her sideways she was doing 5 knots. And she'd point like 
>> Babe Ruth predicting a home run. Heading home from Cuttyhunk was always 
>> lovely; we'd head down the rhumb line for R2A with sheets just a little 
>> eased and we'd watch all the Benecatahunts fade off to leeward into the 
>> Sakonnet River and eventually start motoring. The 40 combines performance 
>> and beauty to an extent not seen on many other boats. It’s my favorite C!
>> 
>> Andy
>> (Stuck in the Bahamas with clients far away from my own boat)
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> Newport, RI 
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>> 
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>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2021, at 10:47, Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tall rigs will give you fits if you ever travel down the ICW.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> Bob Boyer
>>> s/v Rainy Days
>>> C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
>>> (Spending winters in warm places, and summers on the Chesapeake Bay)
>>> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
>>> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
>>> 
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Stus-List Re: C 40

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I think the tall rig on the 40 is fine for the ICW. 
I loved that boat. She gave me few excuses to use the engine, even in light 
airs if I looked at her sideways she was doing 5 knots. And she'd point like 
Babe Ruth predicting a home run. Heading home from Cuttyhunk was always lovely; 
we'd head down the rhumb line for R2A with sheets just a little eased and we'd 
watch all the Benecatahunts fade off to leeward into the Sakonnet River and 
eventually start motoring. The 40 combines performance and beauty to an extent 
not seen on many other boats. It’s my favorite C!

Andy
(Stuck in the Bahamas with clients far away from my own boat)

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> On Mar 22, 2021, at 10:47, Robert Boyer via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Tall rigs will give you fits if you ever travel down the ICW.
> 
> Bob
> 
> Bob Boyer
> s/v Rainy Days
> C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
> (Spending winters in warm places, and summers on the Chesapeake Bay)
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
> 
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Stus-List Re: Now stink boaters anonymous

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

As I recall, the Gulfstar 49 motor yacht sleeps 6 and drinks 37. We could 
designate David’s new boat the official C Rendezvous Host Yacht. 
Andy

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> On Mar 21, 2021, at 11:31, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Wow, David. That Gulfstar 49 MY is a serious long-range cruiser. 
> 
> Just think about all the rendezvous that you could not show up to. 
> 
> All the best, 
> 
> Edd
> 
> ———-
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> 
> On Mar 21, 2021, at 10:10 AM, David Risch via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> We have a Gulfstar 49 Motor Yacht under agreement.  Stay tuned.  
> 
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
> 
> From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 9:41:13 AM
> To: CnC CnC discussion list 
> Cc: David Knecht 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Now stink boaters anonymous
>  
> Being a New Mysterian, sin is not something I worry much about, but here is 
> my (lack of) confession.  
> C 34+, Force 5, Sunfish, 2 windsurfers.  
> I did buy a new outboard for my dinghy last year, so my hands have a bit of 
> oil on them.  Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:30 AM, jim schwartz via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It appears that we are all confessing... my 38 land fall SEA YA !
>> has been replaced with SEA YA ! II ...
>> A marine trader Tradewinds 43..a trawler.!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Me too. My second boat is a Herreshoff 12 1/2. Oh wait, that’s a sailboat. 
>> But I do have a Cape Dory 14, oh wait...
>> I guess I *am* totally without sin...in that regard, anyway.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA02840
>> 
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>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 08:26, John Conklin via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Guilty of owning a 21 Ft Console console. I can Be Beaufort NC for lunch in 
>> 35-40  Min VS close to 4 Hrs on Halcyon
>> Runs great ! :) 
>> 
>> John Conklin
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:30 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have not started my Boston Whaler since December. Can I get a 3 month 
>>> coin or something?
>>>  
>>> Joe
>>>  
>>> From: Matthew via CnC-List  
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 11:01 PM
>>> To: 'Stus-List' 
>>> Cc: Matthew 
>>> Subject: Stus-List Now stink boaters anonymous
>>>  
>>> Hi, Pete.  My name’s Matt, and I own a Pursuit 18 center console outboard.  
>>> But it’s for the kids, I swear. 
>>>  
>>> From: pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List  
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:03 PM
>>> To: 'Stus-List' 
>>> Cc: pete.shelqu...@comcast.net
>>> Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 40
>>>  
>>> I feel safe now.  
>>>  
>>> Hello, my name is Pete,  and I am a Boston Whaler owner.  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
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Stus-List Re: Now stink boaters anonymous

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

You’re replacing the C with a motoryacht? I thought you were younger than 
that.
Andy

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> On Mar 21, 2021, at 10:10, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> We have a Gulfstar 49 Motor Yacht under agreement.  Stay tuned.  
> 
> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
> 
> From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 9:41:13 AM
> To: CnC CnC discussion list 
> Cc: David Knecht 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Now stink boaters anonymous
>  
> Being a New Mysterian, sin is not something I worry much about, but here is 
> my (lack of) confession.  
> C 34+, Force 5, Sunfish, 2 windsurfers.  
> I did buy a new outboard for my dinghy last year, so my hands have a bit of 
> oil on them.  Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:30 AM, jim schwartz via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It appears that we are all confessing... my 38 land fall SEA YA !
>> has been replaced with SEA YA ! II ...
>> A marine trader Tradewinds 43..a trawler.!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Me too. My second boat is a Herreshoff 12 1/2. Oh wait, that’s a sailboat. 
>> But I do have a Cape Dory 14, oh wait...
>> I guess I *am* totally without sin...in that regard, anyway.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 08:26, John Conklin via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Guilty of owning a 21 Ft Console console. I can Be Beaufort NC for lunch in 
>> 35-40  Min VS close to 4 Hrs on Halcyon
>> Runs great ! :) 
>> 
>> John Conklin
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:30 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have not started my Boston Whaler since December. Can I get a 3 month 
>>> coin or something?
>>>  
>>> Joe
>>>  
>>> From: Matthew via CnC-List  
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 11:01 PM
>>> To: 'Stus-List' 
>>> Cc: Matthew 
>>> Subject: Stus-List Now stink boaters anonymous
>>>  
>>> Hi, Pete.  My name’s Matt, and I own a Pursuit 18 center console outboard.  
>>> But it’s for the kids, I swear. 
>>>  
>>> From: pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List  
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:03 PM
>>> To: 'Stus-List' 
>>> Cc: pete.shelqu...@comcast.net
>>> Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 40
>>>  
>>> I feel safe now.  
>>>  
>>> Hello, my name is Pete,  and I am a Boston Whaler owner.  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
>>> Stu
>> 
>>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
>>> Stu
>> 
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
>> Stu
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: C 40

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Reading the blurb for the listing I thought, “ I couldn’t have said it better 
myself!” 

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA 02840

+401 965 5260
https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/



> On Mar 19, 2021, at 19:12, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Looks promising!!
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 4:42 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> This is the one we may look at:
>> 
>> https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/c-c-fiberglass-40-3689672/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> Coquina
>> 
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
>> Stu
> -- 
> Joel 
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: Now stink boaters anonymous

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Me too. My second boat is a Herreshoff 12 1/2. Oh wait, that’s a sailboat. But 
I do have a Cape Dory 14, oh wait...
I guess I *am* totally without sin...in that regard, anyway.

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Mar 19, 2021, at 08:26, John Conklin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Guilty of owning a 21 Ft Console console. I can Be Beaufort NC for lunch in 
> 35-40  Min VS close to 4 Hrs on Halcyon
> Runs great ! :) 
> 
> John Conklin
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:30 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not started my Boston Whaler since December. Can I get a 3 month coin 
>> or something?
>>  
>> Joe
>>  
>> From: Matthew via CnC-List  
>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 11:01 PM
>> To: 'Stus-List' 
>> Cc: Matthew 
>> Subject: Stus-List Now stink boaters anonymous
>>  
>> Hi, Pete.  My name’s Matt, and I own a Pursuit 18 center console outboard.  
>> But it’s for the kids, I swear. 
>>  
>> From: pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List  
>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:03 PM
>> To: 'Stus-List' 
>> Cc: pete.shelqu...@comcast.net
>> Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 40
>>  
>> I feel safe now.  
>>  
>> Hello, my name is Pete,  and I am a Boston Whaler owner.  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
>> Stu
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu