Re: I can no longer ssh into my FR via wifi

[roguemoko]

William Kenworthy wrote:
> After a recent dropbear update I can no longer ssh into my FR via wifi.
> I still can login via usb0 and outgoing via wifi works fine.  Ive tried
> "ifdown usb0" (not necessary before), but with no change.
>
> Ive looked for config files and cant see anything relevant.
> Suggestions?
>   

I ran into this problem recently when switching to testing. In 
etc/defaults dropbear is configured to accept connections only from the 
IP address configured on usb0. I commented this line and put *:22.

Hope that helps.

Sarton

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DOOM OpenMoko Port

[SCarlson]

 I've just witnessed DOOM on my Freerunner. I spent a few hours this evening
compiling a SDL port for DOOM, it let me tell you it looks great. I'd like
to thank everyone involved for giving me the opportunity to exploit this
machine (which is also a phone).

I'll be working on a Acc. UI, similar to the Duke3d port. (Thanks to the
person who ported Duke3d to inspire me today to do the same with DOOM, this
just made my week)

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I can no longer ssh into my FR via wifi

[William Kenworthy]

After a recent dropbear update I can no longer ssh into my FR via wifi.
I still can login via usb0 and outgoing via wifi works fine.  Ive tried
"ifdown usb0" (not necessary before), but with no change.

Ive looked for config files and cant see anything relevant.
Suggestions?

BillK

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Re: Debian

[Matt]

and as I have mentioned before, having different mailto addresses for 
the same list, could be used to automatically prefix the subjects.

so [EMAIL PROTECTED] could deliver to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
but prefix the subject with [debian].
This keeps everyone together and enables client side filtering.

I've been part of busy lists before, with no way to filter, members just 
unsubscribe.

I have no effective filtering strategy for openmoko.

~Matt

William Kenworthy wrote:
> This has been discussed a number of times and dismissed because as an
> idea it sucks:
> 
> 1. The majority have to find and subscribe to all these fragmented lists
> to find information, so it only benefits a few.
> 
> 2. People multiple post to every list to make sure nobody will miss out
> - doesnt happen you say? - look at the current community and support
> (and thats with only two lists!)
> 
> 3. Emails get lost as people on other lists never see them.  (wont
> happen you say? - see 2 above)
> 
> BillK
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 00:00 +0300, Michele Renda wrote:
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>> Thank you Marcel, Arne
>>
>> [debian] # As Debian - armel 4 (I use it with XFCE)
>> [2007.2]
>> [2008.8]
>> [qtopia]
>> [fso]
>>
>>
>> There can be others? I think it will be very good if we start to use it.
>> There are a lot of techical question that interest only who use one
>> enviroment and will be nice to understand soon what is the argument
>> about we are speaking.
>>
>> And without mulptiple ML we don't risk to loose some important arguments
>> that are not a part of our ML.
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Re: Debian

[William Kenworthy]

This has been discussed a number of times and dismissed because as an
idea it sucks:

1. The majority have to find and subscribe to all these fragmented lists
to find information, so it only benefits a few.

2. People multiple post to every list to make sure nobody will miss out
- doesnt happen you say? - look at the current community and support
(and thats with only two lists!)

3. Emails get lost as people on other lists never see them.  (wont
happen you say? - see 2 above)

BillK



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> Thank you Marcel, Arne
> 
> [debian]  # As Debian - armel 4 (I use it with XFCE)
> [2007.2]
> [2008.8]
> [qtopia]
> [fso]
> 
> 
> There can be others? I think it will be very good if we start to use it.
> There are a lot of techical question that interest only who use one
> enviroment and will be nice to understand soon what is the argument
> about we are speaking.
> 
> And without mulptiple ML we don't risk to loose some important arguments
> that are not a part of our ML.
> 
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RE: Wifi totally broken in Om2008.8?

[Bryan DeLuca]

On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 17:13:26 +0200
"Daniel Hedblom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Im trying to get wifi going on my freerunner but i havent got any
> success yet at all. I have tried the various tips in the wiki but
> whatever i do packets seems to end up in the bit-bucket. Even as
> ifconfig shows packets going through eth0 both in and out nothing gets
> past the wireless driver when i check on the Wireless AP or on another
> computer with wireshark. Disabling usb0 and its default route havent
> helped. I regard myself as a pretty seasoned Linux user ( +10 years )
> but this phone has me beaten for now.
> 
> I have also tried with Trolltechs Qtopia image and i have the same
> problem there. Am i fighting windmills, just plain thick or is my wifi
> nic in the phone perhaps broken?
> 

I was having Wifi trouble under every distro until I remembered that I disabled 
802.11G on my AP.  I'm pretty anal about how tightly configured my AP is, which 
can shoot you in the foot if you forget all the fancy stuff you setup months 
ago.   Looks like the FreeRunner radio only supports G.  After that I had no 
problem connecting with WPA2.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Hacking nokia headset HS-40 to work with OM

[Alberto Morales]

El Saturday, 6 de September de 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió:
> Yes, please do it, including photos :)
>
> It's much better that it resides in the wiki than here!
>
> Please tell us the URL when you're done :)

Done.
- http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Analog_wired_Headset_Nokia

And linked from the following pages (very similar):
- http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Headset
- http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Analog_wired_Headset

Last question: what is expected to happen when the headset button is 
pressed?

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Re: http://shr.bearstech.com/Makefile - 403 forbidden

[Russell Sears]

Thanks!

I'm actually just updating the wiki right now, so I'll document the 
fso-makefile repository.

-Rusty

Rod Whitby wrote:
> Russell Sears wrote:
>> Can someone fix the file permissions?
> 
> In the meantime, you can use the following workaround:
> 
> git clone git://git.freesmartphone.org/fso-makefile common
> ln -s common/Makefile Makefile
> 
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Re: http://shr.bearstech.com/Makefile - 403 forbidden

[Rod Whitby]

Russell Sears wrote:
> Can someone fix the file permissions?

In the meantime, you can use the following workaround:

git clone git://git.freesmartphone.org/fso-makefile common
ln -s common/Makefile Makefile

-- Rod

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Re: http://shr.bearstech.com/Makefile - 403 forbidden

[Rod Whitby]

Russell Sears wrote:
> Can someone fix the file permissions?

Bearstech is in the middle of doubling the disk space available for the
FSO feeds, so the site is down at the moment.

I don't have an ETA for when it will be up again, but they should only
need to copy about 50GB from one partition to another and change
/etc/fstab ...

-- Rod

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http://shr.bearstech.com/Makefile - 403 forbidden

[Russell Sears]

Can someone fix the file permissions?

Thanks!

-Rusty

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Re: using openocd

[Holger Freyther]

On Sunday 07 September 2008 02:22:40 Hypnotize wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I cant get openocd working (with Debug Board v3 and GTA02), I just get this
> error message:
>
> $ openocd -f /etc/openocd/openocd.conf
> Info:openocd.c:84 main(): Open On-Chip Debugger (2007-01-31 12:00 CET)
> Error:   ft2232.c:1351 ft2232_init(): unable to open ftdi device:
> ftdi_usb_reset failed

sudo openocd?

z.

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Stylus Ink Replacement Cartridge?

[Charles Pax]

Does anyone know how to replace the ink cartridge in the stylus that comes
with the Freerunner? It seems like I can just pull it out, but I don't want
to break it. Also, does anyone have a Staples of OfficeMax item number for a
good replacement cartridge? Thanks.

-Charles
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Re: context sensitive menus

[Matt]

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Am Saturday 06 September 2008 03:01:33 schrieb Matt:
>> On Windows Mobile (pocket pc), a long tap is like a right click; it
>> invokes a context sensitive menu.
>> If text is selected, there are options for copy/paste/cut.
>>
>> Are there plans for something similar for OM ?
> 
> We had this in OM2007.1, but lost it on the way.
> 
> I'm not sure how generally useful this feature is.
> 

I think having an easy, intuitive, constant way to copy/paste text on a 
device with no keyboard, will always be useful.

Furthermore, I'd like to know that a long tap on a phone number will 
always offer to Call Number, SMS, Lookup Contact, Add to Contacts.

A long tap on selected text should offer to Save Note, Send SMS, Send EMail.

A long tap on text which includes a date/time should offer to add an 
event in the calendar too.

A long tap on an address should offer to find it on a map.

I'm sure there are many other instances where a long tap on 'something' 
should allow an action to be performed with it.
People should chime in if they support it.

At the moment, the FR is bearly able to compete with an old Palm Vx in 
terms of intuitiveness.


~ Matt

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using openocd

[Hypnotize]

Hi,

I cant get openocd working (with Debug Board v3 and GTA02), I just get this
error message:

$ openocd -f /etc/openocd/openocd.conf
Info:openocd.c:84 main(): Open On-Chip Debugger (2007-01-31 12:00 CET)
Error:   ft2232.c:1351 ft2232_init(): unable to open ftdi device:
ftdi_usb_reset failed

Can anyone please help me?

messages from dmesg:

[  275.629104] usb 1-1.1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 9
[  275.684969] usb 1-1.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[  275.692679] ftdi_sio 1-1.1:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[  275.692726] /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/usb/serial/ftdi_sio.c:
Detected FT2232C
[  275.692879] usb 1-1.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to
ttyUSB0
[  275.700444] ftdi_sio 1-1.1:1.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[  275.700488] /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/usb/serial/ftdi_sio.c:
Detected FT2232C
[  275.700613] usb 1-1.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to
ttyUSB1
[  328.625095] ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now
disconnected from ttyUSB0
[  328.625562] ftdi_sio 1-1.1:1.0: device disconnected
[  328.626567] usb 1-1.1: usbfs: interface 1 claimed by ftdi_sio while
'openocd' sets config #1
[  328.627572] usb 1-1.1: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd openocd rqt 64
rq 0 len 0 ret -71

-Morten Freberg
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Re: Wifi totally broken in Om2008.8?

[Stefan Strahl]

Hi Daniel :)

I also had troubles first getting Wifi running with Om2008.08. What
did you do so far to the config? I assume "iwlist eth0 scan" is
working? My "D'oh"-experience was that I needed to use WPA2 in the
wpa_supplicant.conf and not WPA. Here is what I did to get it running:

1) create /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
# WPA2:
network={
   ssid="THISISNOWIFI"
   scan_ssid=1
   proto=RSN
   key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
   pairwise=CCMP TKIP
   group=TKIP CCMP
   psk=""
   priority=50
}

# WPA:
network={
  ssid="THISISNOWIFI"
  proto=WPA
  key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
  pairwise=TKIP
  group=TKIP
  scan_ssid=1
  psk=""
  priority=10
}

# WEP:
network={
 ssid="NETGEAR"
 scan_ssid=1
 key_mgmt=NONE
 wep_tx_keyidx=0
 wep_key0=
 priority=8
}

# Open:
network={
 ssid="your ssid"
 key_mgmt=NONE
 priority=5
}

then edit in /etc/network/interfaces

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
   wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf


then I did a

iwconfig eth0 essid THISISNOWIFI

and finally

ifdown eth0
ifup eth0

Do you see any "WPA" or "udhcc" messages?

:) stefan
:) stefan

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[SCarlson]

I've found a Doom SDL port, I'm currently working on it as I type. I may have
some questions depending on how harry it gets.

-Scott


Steve Mosher wrote:
> 
> I would get a kick out of that. A quake port perhaps? or battlezone?
> 
> 
> 
> SCarlson wrote:
>> Fantastic Idea, I will be attempting a Doom port ! (Unless someone else
>> beat
>> me to it!)
>> 
>> -Scott
>> 
>> 
>> Steve Mosher wrote:
>>> heretic would great.
>>>
>>> We need retro section on the wiki ( maybe there is one already)
>>> for all the great retro ports.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> nickd wrote:
 I just wanted to tell you Rafael that I reaffirm Dale's love.
 Installing 
 it now, can't wait! Also, Heretic was re-released as GPL the other day
 - 
 I wonder if we can get this ported :-)

 -Nick

 Dale Maggee wrote:
> Rafael,
>
> I just wanted to tell you that I love you! :D
>
> -Dale
>
> Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
>   
>> Hello people, 
>>
>> I want to share a simple duke nukem 3d port for Neo which you
>> can play using the accelerometer :)
>>
>> You can get all the files at:
>> http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/
>> and the link below has the instructions:
>> http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/readme-openmoko.txt
>>
>> Ah, if you have doubts about how to play, please check
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260Kpiqv9_U
>> and this:
>> http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/how-to-play-duke.png
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> Rafa
>>
>> --
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>> Buenos Aires, Argentina
>>
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Re: German for Qtopia

[Jesús Torres]

I think the problem with your custom keyboard is that to insert a word with
special characters (like áéí...) the user must go to symbols widget to input
it, and then return to the previous one.

A better solution could be that when the user inputs an 'a', the predictive
keyboard suppose it could be 'a', 'á', 'à', etc.

I guess there isn't any easy form to do that. The only one is patching the
predictive keyboard source code.


"Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" wrote:
> 
> Richy wrote:
>> see there:
>> 
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#How_to_change_the_dictionary_used_by_the_predictive_keyboards_.3F
>> 
>> I think the words.dawg that comes with the tool is italian.
> 
> As said above I've made a qtopia italian dictionary file (still 
> incomplete but almost usable) [1]. I've also made a custom version of 
> the predictive keyboard with some Italian special chars (àèéìòù...)
> 
> Give it a try!
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.3v1n0.net/openmoko/qtopia-italian-keyboard.tar.bz2
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Re: ASU gtkrc

[Adrien de Sentenac]

Thanks !

I've only changed the colors to match (more or less :-D) the Tango theme
colors if anyone is interested.

2008/9/6 Radek Bartoň <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hello.
>
> I've modifed default gtkrc in /usr/share/themes/Moko/gtk-2.0/gtkrc file to
> correspond with 2008.8 Qtopia theme. I'm posting it as attachment if it
> will
> pass to the list. Screenshot is here:
> http://blackhex.no-ip.org/screenshots/13/large
>
> It's little slower because of gradients but it's bearable. It need some
> futher
> tweeks which I could not manage by my empiric modification method (change
> something and check what it does). Especially I would like to ged rid of
> frame borders on Trip and Friend tabs in TangoGPS, fix lighter buttons on
> top
> of Map tab when they are clicked and change information line with speed on
> Map tab in fullscreen mode from red color to black as it is in
> non-fullscreen
> mode. I also could not manage to enable gradients for rest of bottom tab
> buttons. Tesing and fixes in other GTK application will also be required.
>
> Thanks for any comments.
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] howto setup [EMAIL PROTECTED] for file-transfer

[Christian Adams]

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Am 06.09.2008 um 22:47 schrieb arne anka:

>> can someone tell me howto setup bt @ FR so i could transfer files /
>> browse FR via bt like my se-w810i?
>> (use FR as bt-fileserver)
>
> look for everything with obex in it's name ...


i did .. and installed
and in the bluetooth-applet from gnome-bluetooth i activated in tab  
"general" the "share files from public folder" .. but there seems to  
be no effect at all .. :/

regards, morlac

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
>> Imho when the game is launched, the phone should consider
>> the actual 
>> position as the "base position" (the one in which
>> the virtual joypad is 
>> centered), then considering the movement when the phone is
>> moved of few 
>> degree (however less than a centimeter of phone edge
>> rotation).
>> I wouldn't dislike also an implementation without the
>> accelerometers 
>> usage (just placing the virtual buttons - for moving too -
>> in the screen 
>> edges; like actually is done for actions only). Imho the
>> screen is quite 
>> big to see and press at the same time (in games like this).
> 
> Both ideas would be very useful as well. We'll see if me or
> somebody (you?) start to work on that..

I'd like to, but actually I'm quite busy in some other things 
(especially university exams :|). However I've already your code in my 
PC, so I'll try to work on it as soon as I can! ;)

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Re: Debian

[Michele Renda]

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Thank you Marcel, Arne

[debian]# As Debian - armel 4 (I use it with XFCE)
[2007.2]
[2008.8]
[qtopia]
[fso]


There can be others? I think it will be very good if we start to use it.
There are a lot of techical question that interest only who use one
enviroment and will be nice to understand soon what is the argument
about we are speaking.

And without mulptiple ML we don't risk to loose some important arguments
that are not a part of our ML.


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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Christian Adams]

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moinmoin,
i really like to see quake1 and quake2

regards, morlac

Am 06.09.2008 um 22:46 schrieb Rafael Ignacio Zurita:

> --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Steve Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I would get a kick out of that. A quake port perhaps? or
>> battlezone?
>
> Hello Steve,
>   You mean quake 2? or which version?
>
> Regards.
>
> --
> Rafael Ignacio Zurita
> Buenos Aires, Argentina

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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

[Valerio Valerio]

Hi Joachim,

2008/9/6 Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi,
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 18:28 +0100 schrieb Valerio Valerio:
>
> > 2008/9/4 Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  * What exactly is the server for? It seems it listens on a
> > tcp socket
> > for commands, which is connected by the UI to send the events
> > over
> > bluetooth. Why don't you bind to the 127.0.0.1 IP address? Why
> > don't you
> > use dbus for that?
> > The server handles all the HID communications, is like a bridge for
> > the client UI, I use a unix socket because the BlueZ devs recommend it
> > to me, besides a dbus interface will be slower, because in the mouse
> > profile I have to send every small movement (pixel by pixel).
>
> Ok, I got your program working (a bit, Debian users see [1]), and now I
> understand what you need the remoko-server for: It's not something that
> runs permanently, or as a system daemon, but it's a helper that you run
> to do stuff you can't do in python, right?

 It runs permanently, the server is responsible for send all the keys to the
remote device, in the future it will be like a daemon (I hope in BlueZ) .

>
>
> To avoid having different packages for that, and possibly opening
> security holes by using TCP, I'd recommend to pack that functionality in
> a C file and include that in your python process using cython. This is
> what the zhone developers did to do some stuff that python can't
> (modifying X window atoms).
>
> > Yes, I already made more code, but right now I don't have time and
> > concentration until I finish my last exam (16 Set)  :(
>
> Is this code in the subversion? If not, you run the risk that other
> people will start to hack on the older, published code which will cause
> troubles when merging.

 All the code is in the SVN, but was I said, I have a incomplete setup.py
and two static path in remoko_conf and remoko_server :)

Thanks for your work and suggestions.

Best regards,

-- 
Valério Valério

http://www.valeriovalerio.org

>
>
> Greetings,
> Joachim
>
> [1] hmpf, http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/ is
> down, but it's the mail with subject "Bluetooth and remoko experience"
> --
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> Debian Developer
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] howto setup [EMAIL PROTECTED] for file-transfer

[arne anka]

> can someone tell me howto setup bt @ FR so i could transfer files /
> browse FR via bt like my se-w810i?
> (use FR as bt-fileserver)

look for everything with obex in it's name ...

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Re: Debian

[arne anka]

> The prefix I can imagine are:
>
> [debian]
> [2007.2]
> [2008.8]
> [qtopia]
>
> Someone as other prefix to add on this list?

[fso]

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Rafael Ignacio Zurita]

--- On Sat, 9/6/08, Steve Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would get a kick out of that. A quake port perhaps? or
> battlezone?

Hello Steve,
  You mean quake 2? or which version?

Regards.

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Re: Debian

[Marcel]

Adding FSO would be a good idea I think, since debian is more like OE than 
such a distro. But it deserves its own tag because you have so many different 
options and tools there (f.e. opkg vs. apt).

-Marcel

Am Saturday 06 September 2008 21:49:01 schrieb Michele Renda:
> According me also this can be a very good idea
>
> The prefix I can imagine are:
>
> [debian]
> [2007.2]
> [2008.8]
> [qtopia]
>
> Someone as other prefix to add on this list?
>
> Marcel wrote:
> > Am Saturday 06 September 2008 20:56:41 schrieb Jean-Eric Cuendet:
> >> Hi,
> >> I propose to create a new mailing list on *lists.openmoko.org
> >> *That is related Debian on FreeRunner.
> >> What do you think?
> >> -jec
> >>
> >> *
> >> *
> >
> > I'd rather propose to prefix distro-specific questions with
> > [debian]/[2007.2]/[2008.8]/whatever so that people can filter client-side
> > effectively. This way also everyone receivers general discussions and
> > doesn't have to subscribe to billions of little mailing lists.
> > -> A little discipline for posting is needed.
> >
> > -Marcel
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] howto setup [EMAIL PROTECTED] for file-transfer

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Christian Adams wrote:
> moinmoin,
> 
> can someone tell me howto setup bt @ FR so i could transfer files / 
> browse FR via bt like my se-w810i?
> (use FR as bt-fileserver)
> 
> ciao,
> morlac

I can't help you too much but I think you must to take care of:

1. Be sure that bluetooth is enabled in openmoko-panel tray bar.
2. Installing all the gnome bluetooth software stack.

I don't know if all this will get you a working bluetooth, but I think
is a good starting point!
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[Christian Adams]

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moinmoin,

can someone tell me howto setup bt @ FR so i could transfer files / 
browse FR via bt like my se-w810i?
(use FR as bt-fileserver)

ciao,
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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Rafael Ignacio Zurita]

--- On Sat, 9/6/08, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok... However I've played with it a little more and
> imho it's not so 
> playable using the accelerometers in a such way since they
> should be 
> more sensible to the movement or the screen is not so
> visible when playing.

Screen: well the position to see well is like the link below:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/4232129/
(the left man one, because I was thinking that could be fun while
traveling by bus :) ).


> Imho when the game is launched, the phone should consider
> the actual 
> position as the "base position" (the one in which
> the virtual joypad is 
> centered), then considering the movement when the phone is
> moved of few 
> degree (however less than a centimeter of phone edge
> rotation).
> I wouldn't dislike also an implementation without the
> accelerometers 
> usage (just placing the virtual buttons - for moving too -
> in the screen 
> edges; like actually is done for actions only). Imho the
> screen is quite 
> big to see and press at the same time (in games like this).

Both ideas would be very useful as well. We'll see if me or
somebody (you?) start to work on that..

Rafa

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Re: Debian

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According me also this can be a very good idea

The prefix I can imagine are:

[debian]
[2007.2]
[2008.8]
[qtopia]

Someone as other prefix to add on this list?

Marcel wrote:
> Am Saturday 06 September 2008 20:56:41 schrieb Jean-Eric Cuendet:
>> Hi,
>> I propose to create a new mailing list on *lists.openmoko.org
>> *That is related Debian on FreeRunner.
>> What do you think?
>> -jec
>>
>> *
>> *
> 
> I'd rather propose to prefix distro-specific questions with 
> [debian]/[2007.2]/[2008.8]/whatever so that people can filter client-side 
> effectively. This way also everyone receivers general discussions and doesn't 
> have to subscribe to billions of little mailing lists.
> -> A little discipline for posting is needed.
> 
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ASU gtkrc

[Radek Bartoň]

Hello.

I've modifed default gtkrc in /usr/share/themes/Moko/gtk-2.0/gtkrc file to 
correspond with 2008.8 Qtopia theme. I'm posting it as attachment if it will 
pass to the list. Screenshot is here: 
http://blackhex.no-ip.org/screenshots/13/large

It's little slower because of gradients but it's bearable. It need some futher 
tweeks which I could not manage by my empiric modification method (change 
something and check what it does). Especially I would like to ged rid of 
frame borders on Trip and Friend tabs in TangoGPS, fix lighter buttons on top 
of Map tab when they are clicked and change information line with speed on 
Map tab in fullscreen mode from red color to black as it is in non-fullscreen 
mode. I also could not manage to enable gradients for rest of bottom tab 
buttons. Tesing and fixes in other GTK application will also be required.

Thanks for any comments.

-- 
Ing. Radek Bartoň

Faculty of Information Technology
Department of Computer Graphics and Multimedia
Brno University of Technology

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Ing. Radek Bartoň

Faculty of Information Technology
Department of Computer Graphics and Multimedia
Brno University of Technology

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# Moko GTK+ theme
#
# Copyright 2007 OpenedHand Ltd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Based on OpenedHand's Sato GTK+ Theme
#
# This theme uses several style properties introduced in GTK+ 2.10
#
# black: #33
# orange: #ff7d00
#

gtk-button-images = 0
gtk-menu-images = 0
gtk-icon-sizes = "gtk-button=32,32:gtk-small-toolbar=48,48:gtk-large-toolbar=48,48"

# Set the default gtk-color-scheme property
gtk_color_scheme = "fg_color:#222;bg_color:#000;base_color:#000;text_color:#ddd;selected_bg_color:#f00;selected_fg_color:#ddd"

style "default"
{

  xthickness = 2
  ythickness = 2

  GtkButton::default_border = {0, 0, 0, 0}
  GtkButton::focus-line-width = 0
  GtkCheckButton::indicator-size = 35
  GtkCheckButton::indicator-spacing = 5
  GtkCheckMenuItem::indicator_size = 18
  GtkEntry::inner_border = {5, 5, 5, 5}
  GtkFrame::shadow_type = GTK_SHADOW_NONE
  GtkPaned::handle-size = 16
  GtkRange::slider-width = 28
  GtkRange::trough_border = 0
  GtkScale::slider-length = 64
  GtkScrollbar::has_backward_stepper = 0
  GtkScrollbar::has_forward_stepper = 1
  GtkScrollbar::has_secondary_backward_stepper = 1
  GtkScrollbar::has_secondary_forward_stepper = 0
  GtkScrollbar::slider_width = 30
  GtkScrollbar::stepper_size = 26
  GtkScrollbar::stepper_spacing = 0
  GtkSpinButton::shadow_type = GTK_SHADOW_NONE
  GtkTreeView::allow_rules = 1
  #GtkTreeView::even_row_color = "#fff"
  #GtkTreeView::odd_row_color = "#e7e7e7"
  GtkTreeView::vertical_separator = 6
  GtkWidget::focus_line_width = 2
  GtkWidget::focus_padding = 0
  GtkWidget::scroll-arrow-vlength = 48
  GtkWidget::scroll-arrow-hlength = 48

  MokoDialerTextview::large_font = 20
  MokoDialerTextview::medium_font = 15
  MokoDialerTextview::medium_font = 15
  MokoDialerTextview::small_font = 10

  fg [NORMAL] = @text_color
  fg [PRELIGHT] = @fg_color
  fg [ACTIVE] = @text_color
  fg [INSENSITIVE] = @fg_color
  fg [SELECTED] = @selected_fg_color

  bg [NORMAL] = @bg_color
  bg [PRELIGHT] = @bg_color
  bg [ACTIVE] = @fg_color
  bg [INSENSITIVE] = lighter (@bg_color)
  bg [SELECTED] = @bg_color

  text [NORMAL] = @text_color
  text [PRELIGHT] = @text_color
  text [SELECTED] = @text_color
  text [ACTIVE] = @text_color

  base [NORMAL] = @base_color
  base [SELECTED] = @text_color
  base [ACTIVE] = @base_color

  engine "moko-engine" {
border = FALSE
gradient = TRUE
  }
}

class "GtkWidget" style "default"

style "reversed"
{
  bg[NORMAL] = @fg_color
  fg[NORMAL] = @bg_color

  bg[PRELIGHT] = @fg_color
  fg[PRELIGHT] = @bg_color
}

widget_class "*GtkButton*" style "reversed"

style "button"
{
  GtkButton::inner_border = {5, 5, 5, 5}

  engine "moko-engine" {
border = FALSE
gradient = TRUE
  }
}

style "treeview-header" {

  # inner-border was added in GTK+ 2.10
  GtkButton::inner_border = {0, 0, 0, 0}

  bg[NORMAL] = "#eee"
  fg[NORMAL] = "#000"

  bg[PRELIGHT] = "#eee"
  fg[PRELIGHT] = "#000"

  engine "moko-engine" {
border = FALSE
gradient = TRUE
  }
}
widget_class "*GtkTreeView.GtkButton*" style "treeview-header"

style "combo" {
  bg[NORMAL] = @bg_color
  text[NORMAL] = @fg_color

  bg[PRELIGHT] = @bg_color
  text[PRELIGHT] = @fg_color

  engine "moko-engine" {
border = FALSE
gradient = TRUE
  }
}
widget_class "*Combo*" style "combo"

style "toolbar"
{
  GtkToolbar::internal_padding = 0
  xthickness = 0
  ythickness = 0

  engine "moko-engine" {
border = FALSE
gradient = TRUE
  }
}
class "GtkToolbar" style "toolbar"
#class "GtkToolbar" style "reversed"

style "toolitem"
{
  xthickness = 12
  ythickness = 12

  bg[NORMAL] = @bg_color
  fg[NORMAL] = @fg_color

  # toolbar colours are reversed
  bg[PRELIGHT] = @fg_color
  fg[PRELIGHT] = @bg_col

Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

[Lorn Potter]

Kieran Fleming wrote:
> Lorn,
> Could you perhaps point us in the direction of this program? I haven't
> been able to find it myself, and I worry it's one of those Trolltech
> secrets :)

Yes. So far it hasn't been released. I will see what I can do.


-- 
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opkg seg fault FSOupgrade

[Eildert Groeneveld]

when trying to upgrade against testing
src/gz fso-all http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/all

I get a segmentation fault:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# opkg upgrade
Upgrading angstrom-version on root from 1:-20080729-r1 to 1:-20080904-r1...
Downloading http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/om-gta02/angstrom-
version_-20080904-r1_om-gta02.ipk
Segmentation fault


some individual installs work.

any ideas?

greetings

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Re: Debian

[Marcel]

Am Saturday 06 September 2008 20:56:41 schrieb Jean-Eric Cuendet:
> Hi,
> I propose to create a new mailing list on *lists.openmoko.org
> *That is related Debian on FreeRunner.
> What do you think?
> -jec
>
> *
> *

I'd rather propose to prefix distro-specific questions with 
[debian]/[2007.2]/[2008.8]/whatever so that people can filter client-side 
effectively. This way also everyone receivers general discussions and doesn't 
have to subscribe to billions of little mailing lists.
-> A little discipline for posting is needed.

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Steve Mosher]

I encourage you to make these changes, marco. It will show people how 
the contribution of one creative person can be modified by another.



Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
>>> However, no way to make it work at 640x480 without
>>> slowdowns? Maybe 
>>> improving video output exploiting the X acceleration (and a
>>> little more 
>>> the Xglamo in gta02s)... I figure that an old game like
>>> this could 
>>> perform really in a better way here.
>> Perhaps, SDL is a very good library for game programming and
>> it works nice with low resolutions (like 640x480).
>> But, I also have tried another C+SDL own game and it was slow :(.
>>
>> I will check what we could do about, but maybe I try 
>> other games before (like heretic as somebody suggested :))
> 
> Ok... However I've played with it a little more and imho it's not so 
> playable using the accelerometers in a such way since they should be 
> more sensible to the movement or the screen is not so visible when playing.
> Imho when the game is launched, the phone should consider the actual 
> position as the "base position" (the one in which the virtual joypad is 
> centered), then considering the movement when the phone is moved of few 
> degree (however less than a centimeter of phone edge rotation).
> Otherwise, imho, it's unplayable.
> 
> I wouldn't dislike also an implementation without the accelerometers 
> usage (just placing the virtual buttons - for moving too - in the screen 
> edges; like actually is done for actions only). Imho the screen is quite 
> big to see and press at the same time (in games like this).
> 
> Bye!
> 

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Steve Mosher]

I would get a kick out of that. A quake port perhaps? or battlezone?



SCarlson wrote:
> Fantastic Idea, I will be attempting a Doom port ! (Unless someone else beat
> me to it!)
> 
> -Scott
> 
> 
> Steve Mosher wrote:
>> heretic would great.
>>
>> We need retro section on the wiki ( maybe there is one already)
>> for all the great retro ports.
>>
>>
>>
>> nickd wrote:
>>> I just wanted to tell you Rafael that I reaffirm Dale's love. Installing 
>>> it now, can't wait! Also, Heretic was re-released as GPL the other day - 
>>> I wonder if we can get this ported :-)
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>> Dale Maggee wrote:
 Rafael,

 I just wanted to tell you that I love you! :D

 -Dale

 Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
   
> Hello people, 
>
> I want to share a simple duke nukem 3d port for Neo which you
> can play using the accelerometer :)
>
> You can get all the files at:
> http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/
> and the link below has the instructions:
> http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/readme-openmoko.txt
>
> Ah, if you have doubts about how to play, please check
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260Kpiqv9_U
> and this:
> http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/how-to-play-duke.png
>
> Have fun!
>
> Rafa
>
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>
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Re: Debian

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> Hi,
> I propose to create a new mailing list on *lists.openmoko.org
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> *That is related Debian on FreeRunner.
> What do you think?
> -jec
I am in agree with this (I use a lot Debian on FR), but I know that a
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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[nurgle]

Wonderful port. Just tried it! My comment on the accelerometers:

"Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wouldn't dislike also an implementation without the accelerometers 
> usage (just placing the virtual buttons - for moving too - in the screen 
> edges; like actually is done for actions only). Imho the screen is quite 
> big to see and press at the same time (in games like this).

I have connected a USB Joystick to my Freerunner in USB Host Mode. Using
the SDL Joystick routines to make this work should not be to hard. I
would love to see such an implementation.

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Hi,
I propose to create a new mailing list on *lists.openmoko.org
*That is related Debian on FreeRunner.
What do you think?
-jec

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Re: Post problems/bugs related questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please

[Geoff Ruscoe]

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Kosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There are tons of duplicated messages on the same list too.
> I just  the same message from Mickey 6 times. But it happens
> all the time with a lot of posts.
>
> I wpuld be nice if someone could do something about it.
>

I believe you two are talking about different types of duplication.  You are
speaking of getting the exact same message multiple times, where as the
original post is saying to read both lists before posting because we get way
too much traffic that is a duplicate of something else already posted.

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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

[Joachim Breitner]

Hi,

Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 18:28 +0100 schrieb Valerio Valerio:

> 2008/9/4 Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  * What exactly is the server for? It seems it listens on a
> tcp socket
> for commands, which is connected by the UI to send the events
> over
> bluetooth. Why don't you bind to the 127.0.0.1 IP address? Why
> don't you
> use dbus for that?
> The server handles all the HID communications, is like a bridge for
> the client UI, I use a unix socket because the BlueZ devs recommend it
> to me, besides a dbus interface will be slower, because in the mouse
> profile I have to send every small movement (pixel by pixel).

Ok, I got your program working (a bit, Debian users see [1]), and now I
understand what you need the remoko-server for: It’s not something that
runs permanently, or as a system daemon, but it’s a helper that you run
to do stuff you can’t do in python, right?

To avoid having different packages for that, and possibly opening
security holes by using TCP, I’d recommend to pack that functionality in
a C file and include that in your python process using cython. This is
what the zhone developers did to do some stuff that python can’t
(modifying X window atoms).

> Yes, I already made more code, but right now I don't have time and
> concentration until I finish my last exam (16 Set)  :(

Is this code in the subversion? If not, you run the risk that other
people will start to hack on the older, published code which will cause
troubles when merging.

Greetings,
Joachim

[1] hmpf, http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/ is
down, but it’s the mail with subject “Bluetooth and remoko experience”
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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
>> However, no way to make it work at 640x480 without
>> slowdowns? Maybe 
>> improving video output exploiting the X acceleration (and a
>> little more 
>> the Xglamo in gta02s)... I figure that an old game like
>> this could 
>> perform really in a better way here.
> 
> Perhaps, SDL is a very good library for game programming and
> it works nice with low resolutions (like 640x480).
> But, I also have tried another C+SDL own game and it was slow :(.
> 
> I will check what we could do about, but maybe I try 
> other games before (like heretic as somebody suggested :))

Ok... However I've played with it a little more and imho it's not so 
playable using the accelerometers in a such way since they should be 
more sensible to the movement or the screen is not so visible when playing.
Imho when the game is launched, the phone should consider the actual 
position as the "base position" (the one in which the virtual joypad is 
centered), then considering the movement when the phone is moved of few 
degree (however less than a centimeter of phone edge rotation).
Otherwise, imho, it's unplayable.

I wouldn't dislike also an implementation without the accelerometers 
usage (just placing the virtual buttons - for moving too - in the screen 
edges; like actually is done for actions only). Imho the screen is quite 
big to see and press at the same time (in games like this).

Bye!

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Adrien de Sentenac]

2008/9/6 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Selon "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > BTW Rafael, thanks... Cool work!
>
> Indeed, I'm impressed !
>
> I'm having problems opening doors though. According to
> http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/how-to-play-duke.png, I should
> just
> press the lower left corner of the screen but this only makes my duke jump.
> Is
> it a calibration problem in landscape mode ? What application could I use
> to
> check/calibrate it ?
>
I've the same problem, the "space button" is located completely at the
bottom of the screen, and the jump button is at the place of the "space
button" on the picture. It makes it really hard to open door (but not
unfeasible).
Though once, I seems to have got the buttons at the correct places.
The sound is kinda strange too.
Apart from that, it's a great port ! Wonderful job !
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Re: Hacking nokia headset HS-40 to work with OM

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 05:40:28PM +0100, Alberto Morales wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Nokia HS-40 is a cheap mono headset that has a 2.5mm jack with 4 rings. 
> It costs 9 EUR in spain. The pinout is INCOMPATIBLE with OM, hence nokia 
> pinouts are incompatible with OM. Here it is the Nokia HS-40 pinout:
> 
> Nokia HS-40 pinout:
> 1 (tip)  - left (R=34 ohm to ground)
> 2- unused (in stereo models, probably connects right)
> 3- mic (mic resistance 1K1 to ground, if button is pressed 48R)
> 4 (base) - ground
> 
> From this message, here it is the OM pinout: 
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-March/013792.html
> 
> Openmoko pinout:
> 1 (tip)  - mic (2K2 ohm and 0R if button is pressed)
> 2- right
> 3- left
> 4 (base) - ground
> 
> If we plug the headset in the OM, only one speaker would work (i never 
> did it). This was reported by David Pottage in this message: 
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/028219.html
> 
> I stopped measuring and began hacking ;-) The little box which has the 
> mic and the button, has two screws. If you remove them and open the 
> case, you'll see 3 wires + 1 wire shielding coming from the jack. It 
> should be 4 wires + shield, but nokia removed the unused wire from right 
> speaker. Get a multimeter and find the wires that connect with pin 1 and 
> 3 of the jack. Take a solder iron and swap wires from 1 and 3, and you 
> have a headset with a pinout compatible with OM.
> 
> I plugged the headset in the GTA02 and loaded the gsmheadset.state 
> during a call. I only had to increase the gain of the output from 80% to 
> 95% because the output from speaker was very low. 34R is below the 40R 
> minimum impedance that joerg recommended in his message. Microphone is 
> ok and people heard me fine. GSM buzz from 
> https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/883 is still randomly heard by the 
> other end (slight in local).
> 
> Button doesn't activate anything in the GTA02. I don't know if it 
> should. The 48R smd resistance can be easily transformed into a 
> shorcircuit if needed.
> 
> I have a few photos, i could create a nokia headsets section in the wiki 
> if you think is useful.

Yes, please do it, including photos :)

It's much better that it resides in the wiki than here!

Please tell us the URL when you're done :)

Congratulations,
Rui

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[j . cubizolles]

Selon "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> BTW Rafael, thanks... Cool work!

Indeed, I'm impressed !

I'm having problems opening doors though. According to
http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/how-to-play-duke.png, I should just
press the lower left corner of the screen but this only makes my duke jump. Is
it a calibration problem in landscape mode ? What application could I use to
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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Dale Maggee]

Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
> --- On Sat, 9/6/08, nickd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>> I get "Unknown Multivoc error code." when i
>>>   
>> try to run it in 2007.2.
>> I get that too running FSO MS2. Will let you know of my
>> findings.
>> 
>
> Mh, weird, in a fresh install it works out of the box.
>
> Have you also tried to kill pulseaudio? Maybe another application
> like pulseaudio is bad to play duke with sound.
>
> Anyway, if you want to try without sound you need change the DOS 
> config file /home/root/.duke3d/duke3d.cfg:
>  - modify the line
> [Sound Setup]
> FXDevice = 0
>with
> [Sound Setup]
> FXDevice = 13
>
> and that is all.
>
> Regards,
> Rafa
>
> --
> Rafael Ignacio Zurita
> Buenos Aires, Argentina
>
>   
Rafael,

I tried killing pulseaudio with no luck, see my other message in this 
thread.

I changed the config file to turn off audio as suggested, and got a bit 
further, but still no luck:

output:
---
Checking sound inits.
Checking music inits.
RTS Manager Started.
Adding DUKE.RTS.
Using .RTS file:DUKE.RTS
Loading palette/lookups.

---

at which point the screen goes black and nothing happens for more than 5 
minutes. I have to open up a new terminal window and kill the duke3d 
process to get anything to happen.

could this be related to my accelerometer problems mentioned elsewhere 
(hexdump /dev/input/event2 and event3 gives me nothing)?

Thanks,
-Dale

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Rafael Ignacio Zurita]

--- On Sat, 9/6/08, nickd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just wanted to tell you Rafael that I reaffirm Dale's
> love. Installing 
> it now, can't wait! Also, Heretic was re-released as
> GPL the other day - 
> I wonder if we can get this ported :-)

Which Heretic?
There is an old port (for Linux PC) here:
http://heretic.linuxgames.com/np/heretic2.shtml

It looks well to port because it also uses SDL or X simply and
builds easily on PC.

So, I will check the code to understand what we should modify
to use it with the accelerometer ;-)

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Rafael Ignacio Zurita]

--- On Sat, 9/6/08, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dale Maggee ha scritto:
> > I suspect that it won't run on 2007.2, because the
> accelerometers seem 
> > to be broken.
> > I get "Unknown Multivoc error code." when i
> try to run it in 2007.2.
> > 
> > 
> > Shawn Thompson wrote:
> >> I'm SO installing that when my openmoko shows
> up! That is freakin 
> >> sweet!. Will it run on 2007.2 or do you have to
> upgrade to 2008.8 and above?
> 
> Maybe the fixed neod that is available [1] here could help
> you!
> 
> BTW Rafael, thanks... Cool work!

:) he... you are welcome..

> However, no way to make it work at 640x480 without
> slowdowns? Maybe 
> improving video output exploiting the X acceleration (and a
> little more 
> the Xglamo in gta02s)... I figure that an old game like
> this could 
> perform really in a better way here.

Perhaps, SDL is a very good library for game programming and
it works nice with low resolutions (like 640x480).
But, I also have tried another C+SDL own game and it was slow :(.

I will check what we could do about, but maybe I try 
other games before (like heretic as somebody suggested :))

Rafa

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[SCarlson]

Fantastic Idea, I will be attempting a Doom port ! (Unless someone else beat
me to it!)

-Scott


Steve Mosher wrote:
> 
> heretic would great.
> 
> We need retro section on the wiki ( maybe there is one already)
> for all the great retro ports.
> 
> 
> 
> nickd wrote:
>> I just wanted to tell you Rafael that I reaffirm Dale's love. Installing 
>> it now, can't wait! Also, Heretic was re-released as GPL the other day - 
>> I wonder if we can get this ported :-)
>> 
>> -Nick
>> 
>> Dale Maggee wrote:
>>> Rafael,
>>>
>>> I just wanted to tell you that I love you! :D
>>>
>>> -Dale
>>>
>>> Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
>>>   
 Hello people, 

 I want to share a simple duke nukem 3d port for Neo which you
 can play using the accelerometer :)

 You can get all the files at:
 http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/
 and the link below has the instructions:
 http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/readme-openmoko.txt

 Ah, if you have doubts about how to play, please check
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260Kpiqv9_U
 and this:
 http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/how-to-play-duke.png

 Have fun!

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Rafael Ignacio Zurita]

--- On Sat, 9/6/08, nickd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I get "Unknown Multivoc error code." when i
> try to run it in 2007.2.
> I get that too running FSO MS2. Will let you know of my
> findings.

Mh, weird, in a fresh install it works out of the box.

Have you also tried to kill pulseaudio? Maybe another application
like pulseaudio is bad to play duke with sound.

Anyway, if you want to try without sound you need change the DOS 
config file /home/root/.duke3d/duke3d.cfg:
 - modify the line
[Sound Setup]
FXDevice = 0
   with
[Sound Setup]
FXDevice = 13

and that is all.

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Dale Maggee]

Alexander Elbs wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 03:55:53PM +1000, Dale Maggee wrote:
>   
>> I suspect that it won't run on 2007.2, because the accelerometers seem 
>> to be broken.
>>
>> I get "Unknown Multivoc error code." when i try to run it in 2007.2.
>>
>> 
>
> Hi,
>
> you need to kill pulseaudio. It seems to lock the sound device, e.g. mplayer
> doesn't work either.
>   
> Mfg
> Alexander Elbs
>   

thanks, but I still get the same error, although it seems to take longer 
to come up now, so we might be getting somewhere...

I'm stopping pulseaudio with: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop

doing 'ps aux | grep pulse' confirms that pulseaudio is stopped...

here's the full output:

---

Simple Duke Nukem 3D port for Openmoko

   Duke Nukem 3D v1.4 - Atomic Edition
   Copyright (c) 1996 3D Realms Entertainment

STUB: CONTROL_ClearAssignments (CONTROL_ClearAssignments, control.c:219)
Compiling: 'GAME.CON'.
Including: 'DEFS.CON'.
Including: 'USER.CON'.
Code Size:64840 bytes(1794 labels).
* Hold Esc to Abort. *
Loading art header.
Checking sound inits.
Unknown Multivoc error code.

---

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Rafael Ignacio Zurita]

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suspect that it won't run on 2007.2, because the
> accelerometers seem 
> to be broken.
> 
> I get "Unknown Multivoc error code." when i try
> to run it in 2007.2.
> 

Have you tried to kill pulseaudio as Alexander suggested?
If yes, please report if it run or not.

Thanks!

Rafa
PS. (Alexander is right, Multivoc error problem is because there is another
soft controling the sound stuff.)

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Dale Maggee]

Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> Dale Maggee ha scritto:
>   
>> I suspect that it won't run on 2007.2, because the accelerometers seem 
>> to be broken.
>> I get "Unknown Multivoc error code." when i try to run it in 2007.2.
>>
>> -Dale
>>
>> Shawn Thompson wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm SO installing that when my openmoko shows up! That is freakin 
>>> sweet!. Will it run on 2007.2 or do you have to upgrade to 2008.8 and above?
>>>   
>
> Maybe the fixed neod that is available [1] here could help you!
>
> BTW Rafael, thanks... Cool work!
> However, no way to make it work at 640x480 without slowdowns? Maybe 
> improving video output exploiting the X acceleration (and a little more 
> the Xglamo in gta02s)... I figure that an old game like this could 
> perform really in a better way here.
>
>
> [1] http://westhoffs-welt.de/blog/my_first_openmoko_application.html
>
>   
Oooh! a magic eightball! funky!

I tried the updated neod from that page, but no luck - I still get 
nothing when I hexdump /dev/input/event2 and /dev/input/event3.

I believe the problem is covered under #1808, yorick describes exactly 
what i see in his comments:
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1808#comment:10

if you have any other ideas I'd welcome them! not having working 
accelerators is starting to annoy!

Thanks anyway,
-Dale

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Hacking nokia headset HS-40 to work with OM

[Alberto Morales]

Hello,

Nokia HS-40 is a cheap mono headset that has a 2.5mm jack with 4 rings. 
It costs 9 EUR in spain. The pinout is INCOMPATIBLE with OM, hence nokia 
pinouts are incompatible with OM. Here it is the Nokia HS-40 pinout:

Nokia HS-40 pinout:
1 (tip)  - left (R=34 ohm to ground)
2- unused (in stereo models, probably connects right)
3- mic (mic resistance 1K1 to ground, if button is pressed 48R)
4 (base) - ground

>From this message, here it is the OM pinout: 
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-March/013792.html

Openmoko pinout:
1 (tip)  - mic (2K2 ohm and 0R if button is pressed)
2- right
3- left
4 (base) - ground

If we plug the headset in the OM, only one speaker would work (i never 
did it). This was reported by David Pottage in this message: 
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/028219.html

I stopped measuring and began hacking ;-) The little box which has the 
mic and the button, has two screws. If you remove them and open the 
case, you'll see 3 wires + 1 wire shielding coming from the jack. It 
should be 4 wires + shield, but nokia removed the unused wire from right 
speaker. Get a multimeter and find the wires that connect with pin 1 and 
3 of the jack. Take a solder iron and swap wires from 1 and 3, and you 
have a headset with a pinout compatible with OM.

I plugged the headset in the GTA02 and loaded the gsmheadset.state 
during a call. I only had to increase the gain of the output from 80% to 
95% because the output from speaker was very low. 34R is below the 40R 
minimum impedance that joerg recommended in his message. Microphone is 
ok and people heard me fine. GSM buzz from 
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/883 is still randomly heard by the 
other end (slight in local).

Button doesn't activate anything in the GTA02. I don't know if it 
should. The 48R smd resistance can be easily transformed into a 
shorcircuit if needed.

I have a few photos, i could create a nokia headsets section in the wiki 
if you think is useful.


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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Valerio Valerio]

2008/9/6 Xavier Cremaschi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Wow excellent !!! (but a bit too slow on 2008.8)
> Thanks you.
>

Runs very smooth and fluid in my FR with FSO 2 :)
Great work.

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Xavier Cremaschi]

Wow excellent !!! (but a bit too slow on 2008.8)
Thanks you.


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Wifi totally broken in Om2008.8?

[Daniel Hedblom]

Im trying to get wifi going on my freerunner but i havent got any
success yet at all. I have tried the various tips in the wiki but
whatever i do packets seems to end up in the bit-bucket. Even as
ifconfig shows packets going through eth0 both in and out nothing gets
past the wireless driver when i check on the Wireless AP or on another
computer with wireshark. Disabling usb0 and its default route havent
helped. I regard myself as a pretty seasoned Linux user ( +10 years )
but this phone has me beaten for now.

I have also tried with Trolltechs Qtopia image and i have the same
problem there. Am i fighting windmills, just plain thick or is my wifi
nic in the phone perhaps broken?

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Dale Maggee ha scritto:
> I suspect that it won't run on 2007.2, because the accelerometers seem 
> to be broken.
> I get "Unknown Multivoc error code." when i try to run it in 2007.2.
> 
> -Dale
> 
> Shawn Thompson wrote:
>> I'm SO installing that when my openmoko shows up! That is freakin 
>> sweet!. Will it run on 2007.2 or do you have to upgrade to 2008.8 and above?

Maybe the fixed neod that is available [1] here could help you!

BTW Rafael, thanks... Cool work!
However, no way to make it work at 640x480 without slowdowns? Maybe 
improving video output exploiting the X acceleration (and a little more 
the Xglamo in gta02s)... I figure that an old game like this could 
perform really in a better way here.


[1] http://westhoffs-welt.de/blog/my_first_openmoko_application.html

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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Detructor]

Okay, I've now bootet my Neo into the NAND boot menu and started
flashing...and it works!

I don't know why, but in NOR it doesn't work...


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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

[Alexander Elbs]

On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 03:55:53PM +1000, Dale Maggee wrote:
> I suspect that it won't run on 2007.2, because the accelerometers seem 
> to be broken.
> 
> I get "Unknown Multivoc error code." when i try to run it in 2007.2.
> 

Hi,

you need to kill pulseaudio. It seems to lock the sound device, e.g. mplayer
doesn't work either.

> -Dale
> 

Mfg
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Re: Building FSO Wiki page

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Saturday 06 September 2008 14:40:40 schrieb Rod Whitby:
> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> > Am Saturday 06 September 2008 00:48:00 schrieb Rod Whitby:
> >> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> >>> For building a .dev branch, in your local.conf file, you should have at
> >>> least the following three entries. Example for the Angstrom
> >>> distribution and the Openmoko gta01 machine:
> >>>
> >>> BBFILES = "/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb"
> >>> DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1"
> >>> MACHINE = "om-gta01"
> >>
> >> I thought DISTRO was "openmoko" for FSO builds?
> >
> > Yes, but this was a quote from the wiki page.
>
> Therein lies the problem with that wiki page
> (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO).
>
> It's meant to tell you how to build FSO, but instead it starts talking
> about Angstrom half way through (after the first half of the page
> duplicates other existing OpenEmbedded pages).

Yeah, it looks like it's largely based on the respective text in OE's 
GettingStarted.

> No wonder people are confused about how to build things ...

Indeed. Perhaps the one who added this page should have stripped it a bit.

Thankfully, it's a Wiki and everyone can fix this.

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Re: context sensitive menus

[Jeffrey Ratcliffe]

2008/9/6 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> We had this in OM2007.1, but lost it on the way.
>
> I'm not sure how generally useful this feature is.

I think that it is quite intuitive and would like it back.

Regards

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Re: Building FSO Wiki page

[Rod Whitby]

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Am Saturday 06 September 2008 00:48:00 schrieb Rod Whitby:
>> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
>>> For building a .dev branch, in your local.conf file, you should have at
>>> least the following three entries. Example for the Angstrom distribution
>>> and the Openmoko gta01 machine:
>>>
>>> BBFILES = "/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb"
>>> DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1"
>>> MACHINE = "om-gta01"
>> I thought DISTRO was "openmoko" for FSO builds?
> 
> Yes, but this was a quote from the wiki page.

Therein lies the problem with that wiki page
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO).

It's meant to tell you how to build FSO, but instead it starts talking
about Angstrom half way through (after the first half of the page
duplicates other existing OpenEmbedded pages).

No wonder people are confused about how to build things ...

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Re: context sensitive menus

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Saturday 06 September 2008 03:01:33 schrieb Matt:
> On Windows Mobile (pocket pc), a long tap is like a right click; it
> invokes a context sensitive menu.
> If text is selected, there are options for copy/paste/cut.
>
> Are there plans for something similar for OM ?

We had this in OM2007.1, but lost it on the way.

I'm not sure how generally useful this feature is.

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Re: Building FSO Wiki page

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Saturday 06 September 2008 00:48:00 schrieb Rod Whitby:
> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> > For building a .dev branch, in your local.conf file, you should have at
> > least the following three entries. Example for the Angstrom distribution
> > and the Openmoko gta01 machine:
> >
> > BBFILES = "/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb"
> > DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1"
> > MACHINE = "om-gta01"
>
> I thought DISTRO was "openmoko" for FSO builds?

Yes, but this was a quote from the wiki page.

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Re: ASU Illume Tango Theme

[Ole Kliemann]

On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 08:15:34PM +0200, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" wrote:
> Ole Kliemann wrote:
> > Has anybody ever tried to change the qtopia appearance? It's a bit out
> > of tune now.
> 
> I've tried it. But changing the Orange.conf color scheme doesn't seem to 
> affect its appearance. I must study it a little more...

Changes you make to

/opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/qpe.conf

are being honoured. Wonder what these colour schemes are good for then...
Perhaps someone of you guys can come up with a fitting qpe.conf
appearance for the tango theme. I myself seem to be a bit dumb
concerning colour compositions. :)

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Re: WLAN with WPA

[Christ van Willegen]

On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Katrin Tomanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,

> I can't manage to connect to a WPA-encrypted WLAN with my FR. I read all the
> wiki-stuff, googled for it and checked most of the mailing list threads --
> but all this didn't help. Hope you guys can give me a hint...

Karin,

what make and model and hardware version is your AP?

I have a Linksys WRT54G, hardware version 7. The symptoms you describe
are exactly what I see. If you've the same wireless router, that may
be an indication of where the problem lies.

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Re: WLAN with WPA

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Saturday, September 06, 2008 a las 03:24:10AM -0700, Katrin Tomanek 
escribió:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I can't manage to connect to a WPA-encrypted WLAN with my FR. I read all the
> wiki-stuff, googled for it and checked most of the mailing list threads --
> but all this didn't help. Hope you guys can give me a hint...
> 
> So, I use the following (simple) wpa_supplicant.conf:
> 
> 
> --- snip ---
> ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
> eapol_version=1
> ap_scan=1
> 
> network={
>   ssid="red"
>   psk=8fa68651275b12accb0982db01cfd78cfb6f4a5d6d3b9a31735ce8aad2271be7
> }
> 
> -- snap ---

try it with inserting as well

key_mgmt=WPA-PSK

> 
> 
> It works perfectly on my laptop (Ubuntu, Hardy Heron).
> 
> However, on my FR authentification doesn't work. 
> 
...
> 
> I also checked the debugging output of the wpa_supplicant. As I am not
> familiar with wpa_supplicant its hard for me to interpret. But I saw that my
> ssid got blacklisted (and after several tries got removed from the blacklist
> again) -- maybe this is normal. If necessary, I might also send the
> debugging output (however, as it's rather longish I skip it for the moment).


if you send me your debugging output off-list, I will have a look;

matthias

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Re: WLAN with WPA

[Michael Zanetti]

Am Samstag 06 September 2008 12:24:10 schrieb Katrin Tomanek:
> I can't manage to connect to a WPA-encrypted WLAN with my FR. I read all
> the wiki-stuff, googled for it and checked most of the mailing list threads
> -- but all this didn't help. Hope you guys can give me a hint...
>
> So, I use the following (simple) wpa_supplicant.conf:
>
>
> --- snip ---
> ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
> eapol_version=1
> ap_scan=1
>
> network={
>   ssid="red"
>   psk=8fa68651275b12accb0982db01cfd78cfb6f4a5d6d3b9a31735ce8aad2271be7
> }
>
> -- snap ---

Hmmm... looks good...

>
>
> It works perfectly on my laptop (Ubuntu, Hardy Heron).
>
> However, on my FR authentification doesn't work.
>
> This is how I run the wpa_supplicant:
>  wpa_supplicant -i eth0 -D wext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
>
> I get the following output:
>
> - snip 
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
> CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
> Trying to associate with 00:1c:4a:a3:b4:3e (SSID='red' freq=2437 MHz)
> Authentication with 00:1c:4a:a3:b4:3e timed out.
>   CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
> Trying to associate with 00:1c:4a:a3:b4:3e (SSID='red' freq=2437 MHz)
> [repeats the last 3 lines in an endless loop]
>  snap ---
>
> I also checked the debugging output of the wpa_supplicant. As I am not
> familiar with wpa_supplicant its hard for me to interpret. But I saw that
> my ssid got blacklisted (and after several tries got removed from the
> blacklist again) -- maybe this is normal. If necessary, I might also send
> the debugging output (however, as it's rather longish I skip it for the
> moment).
>
> Would be great if anybody had an idea what to do here...
>

It looks to me like the AP has either enabled MAC Address filtering or has 
crashed (Yes, my Freerunner seems to be able to make my AP crash once in a 
while) or has any other reason to not answer your neos connection requests...

On your freerunner side everything seems fine since it can see your wireless 
network. Jus to make sure. Have you tried searching for it with "iwlist eth0 
scan" ?





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Re: voip on Debian

[Florian Hackenberger]

On Saturday 06 September 2008, TL Mieszkowski wrote:
> There is the potential to do some really cool stuff with asterisk it
> has quite a bit of functionality.

We should really write a channel driver for the Neo (wolfson codec & GSM 
modem daemon). We could then use asterisk for custom voicemail boxes, 
dialplan routing (think time based blacklists etc.) for calls coming in 
over GSM. As far as I'm familiar with the asterisk channel modules, 
that should not be too difficult.

Cheers,
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WLAN with WPA

[Katrin Tomanek]

Hi,

I can't manage to connect to a WPA-encrypted WLAN with my FR. I read all the
wiki-stuff, googled for it and checked most of the mailing list threads --
but all this didn't help. Hope you guys can give me a hint...

So, I use the following (simple) wpa_supplicant.conf:


--- snip ---
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=1

network={
ssid="red"
psk=8fa68651275b12accb0982db01cfd78cfb6f4a5d6d3b9a31735ce8aad2271be7
}

-- snap ---


It works perfectly on my laptop (Ubuntu, Hardy Heron).

However, on my FR authentification doesn't work. 

This is how I run the wpa_supplicant:
 wpa_supplicant -i eth0 -D wext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

I get the following output:

- snip 
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS 
Trying to associate with 00:1c:4a:a3:b4:3e (SSID='red' freq=2437 MHz)
Authentication with 00:1c:4a:a3:b4:3e timed out.
CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS 
Trying to associate with 00:1c:4a:a3:b4:3e (SSID='red' freq=2437 MHz)
[repeats the last 3 lines in an endless loop]
 snap ---

I also checked the debugging output of the wpa_supplicant. As I am not
familiar with wpa_supplicant its hard for me to interpret. But I saw that my
ssid got blacklisted (and after several tries got removed from the blacklist
again) -- maybe this is normal. If necessary, I might also send the
debugging output (however, as it's rather longish I skip it for the moment).

Would be great if anybody had an idea what to do here...

Katrin
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voip on Debian

[TL Mieszkowski]

I've had a lot of success running both twinkle and asterisk and I thought I'd
share my experiences.
Twinkle works well, but the gui is limiting on the touchscreen.  I think
once configured properly
asterisk will make an excellent voip backend for the neo.  You can control
it through asterisk
manager commands by writing text strings to a socket, and which has hooks
for most languages I'm sure.  

The difficult part is getting a good set of configuration files for
asterisk.  I think for the most part I have
a good setup for sip.  iax could be configured too (important I think for
the encryption). 

Heres the steps as well as I can remember:

1.) You need the alsa state for voip handset. Can be got here: 

http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk//src/target/audio/om-gta02/

This goes in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/
load it with the command :

alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore


2.) Install asterisk, or twinkle, (or whatever, I got those two to work).
In any program other than asterisk, you must enter your sip server info.

For asterisk you need these changes:
  -modules.conf:
change the sound module from oss to alsa (about halfway down)
  -alsa.conf:
uncomment the audio devices and use `plughw` as the devices instead
of `hw` like this "input_device=plughw:0,0"
set autoanswer=no
  -sip.conf:
you need to set your realm for your sip server
set an outbound sip registration:
  register => user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
set authentication credentials for outgoing calls:
  auth=user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I recommend using disallow=all & allow=ulaw or alaw, to avoid
stressing the cpu, unless you
 have a slow net connection.
  -extensions.conf:
you need to set up extensions to forward to your sip service
exten => _1NXXNXX,1,Dial(SIP/[EMAIL PROTECTED])

It really helps to have an asterisk server that isn't NATed to test with
If someone out there has the skills to make a gui, I can do the backend
asterisk stuff.
There is the potential to do some really cool stuff with asterisk it has
quite a bit of functionality.

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Re: [2008.8] gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?

[Tom Yates]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:

> Tom Yates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> i'd be happy to; can you point me to any resource that lets me know a
>> way of doing that?  does the muxd have a flag that tells it to hive
>> off a copy of the datastream (that'd be really handy about now)?
>
> The low-level way is to
>
> strace -o gsm0710muxd.strace -p `pidof gsm0710muxd` -s4096 -f -tt
>
> but you might get lucky if you just set "log_level = DEBUG" in
> frameworkd.conf

i couldn't find that latter file, but i attached an strace to gsmmuxd and 
i have the debug file.

however, i am annoyed to report that the test call rang through.  that is, 
everything is as mickey lauer recently suggested it would be:

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
[Tom had earlier written:]
>>  or should i be able to take an incoming call while the GPRS is up?
>
> Only, if the connection is kind of idle at this point, i.e. it might 
> work while you are pinging a host, it might not work when you are 
> wget'ting loads of data.
>
>>  and if so, should the GPRS suspend while i do, or should i be able to 
>> run them both simultaneously?
>
> GPRS will nicely suspend once you were lucky enough to accept the call. 
> It will automagically resume.

that is in fact exactly what happened.  since my link was idle, i saw the 
new call request coming through the modem in the trace (i have blanked 
out part of the calling number for privacy reasons):

1397  09:08:05.057420 read(5, "~\5\357\r\n%CPI: 
1,0,1,0,1,0,\"07971226XXX\",129\r\n\337~", 2048) = 44
1397  09:08:05.061490 write(6, "\r\n%CPI: 1,0,1,0,1,0,\"07971226XXX\",129\r\n", 
39) = 39
[...]
1397  09:08:05.867654 read(5, "~\1\377\343\5\7M\266~~\5\357\r\nRING\r\n\337~", 
2048) = 22

and my openmoko rang.  once i'd answered the call and hung up, pppd seemed 
to autoresume without complaint (pings went through within seconds of 
hanging up).

i quite understand that there will be no good or reliable way to detect an 
incoming call when the modem is flooded with data; all i wanted was to be 
able to keep the pppd line up for (eg) tango map download-on-demand and 
periodic checking of email, without having "blackout windows" hours long 
when i can't be contacted.  i can now do that.

so, thank you, timo, for your help, and mickey, thanks for the 
clarification.  i can confirm that my phone does all that can be expected 
of it in the context of a GSM network!  timo, would you still like a copy 
of my trace file for reference (it's about 130k)?


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Re: [2008.8][testing][kernel] image and modules not in sync?

[Vasco Névoa]

Now in ticket:  https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1967

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've followed the discussion about dual booting, kernel packaging, and  
> kernel vs. distros, and the conclusion I reach is that the devs are  
> inclined to use (mostly-)monolithic kernels, leaving just the "extras"  
> out in the sysfs "modules" dir.
> This is fine by me, but there seems to be a little mess here.
> There are modules in the file system that are not loadable because  
> they are already built in.
> This is not a good thing, because it induces the user in error - I  
> thought there was something wrong with the kernel or with the modules,  
> when the problem is just a question of cleaning up the repository &  
> filesystem images.
> If the modules are built-in, they should not be present in the  
> filesystem, IMHO.
> If a user follows the wiki howtos about networking, she may be trying  
> to modprobe bnep for example, and scratching her head because  
> "bluetooth" and "l2cap" won't load (let alone "bnep"). Only after  
> grepping /proc/kallsyms I understood these modules where already  
> built-in. duh! total time loss.
> So please clean up a little, ok? At least the fs images on the  
> downloads server should be consistent with the given kernel. If an  
> update breaks things, that another issue entirely.
> Thank you! Keep up the good work.
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upgrade vs. flashing

[Katrin Tomanek]

Hi,

I am currently using OM 2008.8, kernel and rootfs are from 2008-08-08.

I am wondering whether regular opkg update & upgrate does the same job as
flashing my FR with the latest rootfs. 

So, general speaking: when should I flash a new rootfs on my FR (and loosing
all the configuration stuff I already did) instead of just getting the
latest package updates (and kernel updates?) with  opkg update & upgrade?

Thanks for your help
Katrin


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Re: opkg update failed

[Olivier Berger]

"arne anka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> no name resolution. check your /etc/resolv.conf and the mailinglists.
>
> btw: please
> - provide _useful_ information that makes it possible to help you
> - mark in your subject what device and distribution you are using
> - use the right list -- this is a _support_ issue
> - check the archives. this particular problem has been discussed to death.
>

You may also wish to have a look at the wiki :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download

My 2 cents.

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