Re: [Dspace-tech] Persistent identifiers in DSpace -- thoughts please

2007-05-29 Thread Larry Stone
About the URLs to access objects, it's really a matter for each
DSpace UI webapp to implement, isn't it?  I think it's important to
include a pathname component to introduce the encoded(*) object-URI,
however, just to protect against namespace collisions -- e.g. what if
the UI design had one of its own URLs starting with "doi"?

How about the word "resource" to introduce the URI, since it is, after
all, a reference to a resource -- the "R" in URI.  It'd be:

 /resource/  e.g.

 http://dspace.me.ac.uk/resource/hdl/1234/56

This follows the proposal to encode the URI by tearing off the scheme
and putting it in a separate pathname element to avoid issues over
quoting the ":".  Note that I propose using the actual scheme label
in the URL rather than a user-friendly label, e.g. "hdl" rather than "handle".

Re special characters and quoting: I agree with James' original point that
the HTTP URL spec has quoting rules for just this reason, but from a
practical point of view, the client and server implementations have a lot
of bugs in this area.  That's what I discovered implementing WebDAV for
the LNI: it wasn't worth trying to encode a slash (/) in a URL, e.g.
within a Handle, because it would just get stomped on differently by
the different clients.  Better to let it get used literally as a
path element separator and make the servlet clever enough to figure it out.
Also, construct the servlet's URL so the whole path after a certain
point is part of the object URI, e.g. the Handle.

Also note that the transformation from object URI to the actionable
URL is reversible -- we can pull the URI's scheme and path right out
of the URL and put it back together unambiguously.  I think  it's
essential to have one unambiguous transformation for all URIs.

> > 3) Including special characters in the URL string doesn't seem like a
> > good idea.  While they are valid characters, it does take extra
> > processing to encode/decode them from layer to layer.  Why not just
> > leave the URL alone or change /handle to something like /uri, /id, or
> > /pid?  Why encode the PI system into the URI?
>
> As I mention on the wiki, my current idea is to have URLs of the form:
>
> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/hdl:1234/56
>
> which will resolve to the object with Handle 1234/56, etc. If the
> object also has a DOI with value 7890/12 then the following URL would
> point to the object as well:
>
> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/doi:7890/12
>
> It is necessary to include the "hdl:" and "doi:" parts so we can
> distinguish between different persistent identifier mechanisms. The
> values allowed for the persistent identifier are dependent on the
> mechanism we are dealing with, and as far as possible this will be kept
> simple.

-- Larry


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[Dspace-tech] Import : Fatal error UTF-1

2007-05-29 Thread Sangamnerkar Tushar
Hi 
  I am using Foxpro 6.0 to write the .xml files for importing.  The importer  
(Dspace 1.3.2 on FC 3.0)  gives a fatal error for special characters (e.g ° ð  
ö alpha , beta etc. ) in dublin_core file I have tried file converters from 
ANSI to UTF-8 but no use the importer fumbles.  Is there any other way / 
utility to overcome this problem.
   
   
  Tushar Sangamnerkar
  TIRC 
  Pune
   
   
   
   
   

   
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Need Sample for LNI

2007-05-29 Thread Larry Stone
> I'm trying to get up an running on LNI, but can't seem to get the syntax
> for "PUT" just right (I keep getting either 400 or 500 http errors).
> Is there anybody out there who can send me a syntax sample along with a
> sample package?
> I'm working with the LNISmokeTest class.

The smoke test has a method doPut() which ought to be a viable example.
Is that what you're using?
It takes the Handle of a collection which you have write access too.
The Handle should be a string like "123456789/241"; the sample code
uses the Lookup operation to get its LNI resource URI.

Check that the "packager" value names a PackgeIngester plugin configured
in dspace.cfg.  It may help to crank up the log level to "DEBUG" and
look at the server logs.

-- Larry


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Re: [Dspace-tech] Granularity of Authentication

2007-05-29 Thread Leonie Hayes
Hi Jesús

I think this approach works for us because the majority of items are in the 
open access category, if you have a real mixed bag then perhaps its is not so 
easy to implement and not the answer for you.

The private items are only viewable by the collection-admin (the main one) 
and/or the dspace-admin account, we either restrict the whole record or the 
bitstreams.

If you wanted to allow other users to view the item this would get very messy 
and be hard to administer.

Essentially the permissions occur at the item level and bitstream. Hope this 
make its clear.

1. Item is input within the normal submmission environment
2. Collection admin approves for entry
3. Permissions are applied by editing the record using the authorisations view

I have seen other examples of theses with various levels of authentication 
better dealt with using the Tapir addon

Cheers

Leonie Hayes
Project Manager
Institutional Repositories Aotearoa
University of Auckland Library
New Zealand
www.ira.auckland.ac.nz


-Original Message-
From: Jesus Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 28 May 2007 10:12 p.m.
To: Leonie Hayes
Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] Granularity of Authentication

Hi Leonie,

after I read your message about granularity of authentication I have few
questions:
- how do you give permissions to public or private items in the same collection?
- Do you use the dspace-admin account or there is another method whithout the 
dspace-admin account and without changing the permissions of the collection 
every time that a new item is inserted?

Thanks in advance

Jesús Martín

Leonie Hayes wrote:
>  
> Hi Eric and others re Theses authentication
>
> We find DSpace really good for dealing with the minority of work that 
> needs more complex restrictions.
>
> 90% or more of our items belong in the first category and we try to 
> encourage this. There is always going to be other work that has 
> complex authentication/access issues so we have put some examples in 
> place see links below.
>
> The three levels of access to theses in ResearchSpace are:
>
> 1. No restriction. Thesis is freely available for download over the 
> Internet. An example is at http://hdl.handle.net/2292/375
>
> 2. Medium restriction. Abstract and front matter (up to Chapter 1) is 
> freely available for download, but the rest of the thesis is 
> restricted to administrator-only access. An example is at
> http://hdl.handle.net/2292/382
>
> 3. High restriction. The full text of the thesis is locked down for 
> administrator-only access. The information available on ResearchSpace 
> is the same access as provided in Voyager, the University of 
> Auckland's online Library Catalogue.
> An example is at http://hdl.handle.net/2292/403
>
> Cheers
> Leonie Hayes
> Project Manager
> Institutional Repositories Aotearoa
> University of Auckland Library
> New Zealand
> www.ira.auckland.ac.nz
>
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[Dspace-tech] Need Sample for LNI

2007-05-29 Thread Weinberg, Ben
 Hi,
I'm trying to get up an running on LNI, but can't seem to get the syntax
for "PUT" just right (I keep getting either 400 or 500 http errors).
Is there anybody out there who can send me a syntax sample along with a
sample package?
I'm working with the LNISmokeTest class.
Thanks,
Ben Weinberg
HP Digital Library

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Re: [Dspace-tech] psql restoring a dump

2007-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Trimble
Well, this ran fine...but the database is empty and so is the 
table.  I'm going to run it again
and see if I can get the verbose output of my results.

I am making progress.

TIA,

--jat
At 02:29 PM 5/29/2007, Greg McClellan wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I think you have to load dump files created with the '-Fc' flag with the
>pg_restore utility.
>
>http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/app-pgrestore.html
>
>-Greg
>
>Jeffrey Trimble wrote:
> > I'm attempting to revisit this nasty process.  I'm testing again to
> > see if I can ever get this to work to have a suitable way for a
> > migration path for new versions of Postgresql.  I was able to backup my
> > data using:
> >
> > pg_dump -Fc dspace > /dspace/backup
> >
> > Then I recreated the database, per Postgresql's instruction for a new
> > database (as if it was
> > a new installation)
> >
> > Then following the instructions:
> >
> > psql dspace < /dspace/backup
> >
> > I get the following errors:
> >
> > ERROR:  syntax error at or near "PGDMP" at character 1
> > ERROR:  syntax error at or near "AS" at character 5
> > ERROR:  syntax error at or near "" at character 1
> > ERROR:  syntax error at or near "" at character 1  <---Ad nausem
> >
> > Then garbage characters.
> >
> > Facts regarding this procedure:
> >
> > User logged in as "Dspace"  (My assumption is user Dspace is able to
> > perform the backup)
> > Postgres version:  7.4.6  for testing.
> >
> > Any postgres guru's out there that want to give me a hand in this?
> >
> > I would really like to master this, since snapshots, while good, do
> > not let you have a migration
> > path.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeffrey A. Trimble
> > Systems Librarian
> > Youngstown State University
> > Youngstown, OH
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[Dspace-tech] Upgrading from mod_webapp to mod_jk

2007-05-29 Thread George Kozak
Hi...

I have been running Apache 1.3 with mod_webapp to tomcat-4.0.6 (dspace 1.3.2)

I am planning on upgrading to Apache 2.2 with mod_jk to tomcat 5.0.28

When I tried to cutover, I found that everything worked fine EXCEPT for my URLs

Under the old configuration, the home URL was http://dspace.library.cornell.edu
Under the new configuration, the home URL became 
http://dspace.library.cornell.edu/dspace

All of the URLS needed to have the extra path of "/dspace/" added to work.
For instance http://dspace.library.cornell.edu/community-list worked under 
the old configuration.  Under the new configuration, the URL would only 
work as http://dspace.library.cornell.edu/dspace/community-list

I suspect that something in my mod_jk configuration needs to changed.  I 
currently have:

JkMount  /dspace/* ajp13
JkMount  /dspace-oai/* ajp13

I tried to change things to:
JkMount  /* ajp13

as suggested in the WIKI but that caused me other problems (I have other 
virtual servers running on the server).  Does anyone have any suggestion as 
to what I can do to drop the "/dspace/" so that my links will be like they 
were when I used mod_webapp?

***
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Web Development and Management
Digital Media Group
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Cornell University
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Re: [Dspace-tech] psql restoring a dump

2007-05-29 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 02:06:04PM -0400, Jeffrey Trimble wrote:
> I'm attempting to revisit this nasty process.  I'm testing again to 
> see if I can ever get this to work to have a suitable way for a 
> migration path for new versions of Postgresql.  I was able to backup my
> data using:
> 
> pg_dump -Fc dspace > /dspace/backup

This produces a "custom archive" dump, "suitable for input into pg_restore".
 
> Then I recreated the database, per Postgresql's instruction for a new 
> database (as if it was a new installation)
> 
> Then following the instructions:
> 
> psql dspace < /dspace/backup

For this to work, /dspace/backup would need to be the output of
'pg_dump -Fp'.  You should be able to restore this dump using
something like 'pg_restore -d dspace /dspace/backup'.  'man
pg_restore' and read carefully to see what other options you may
need.  In particular read about how pg_restore handles ownership of
database objects.

Please take my PG suggestions only with a grain of salt.  I don't do this
stuff often enough to really learn it.

FWIW here's a sample from crontab on one of my production DSpace
hosts, showing how I do the nightly database dump:

00 02  *  *  *  /usr/bin/pg_dump -Ft -U tomcat -b dspace | gzip -9 > 
/opt/dspace/db.tar.gz

(A system backup job comes along later and copies the dump to tape.)

-- 
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Typically when a software vendor says that a product is "intuitive" he
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Re: [Dspace-tech] psql restoring a dump

2007-05-29 Thread Greg McClellan
Hi,

I think you have to load dump files created with the '-Fc' flag with the 
pg_restore utility.

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/app-pgrestore.html

-Greg

Jeffrey Trimble wrote:
> I'm attempting to revisit this nasty process.  I'm testing again to 
> see if I can ever get this to work to have a suitable way for a 
> migration path for new versions of Postgresql.  I was able to backup my
> data using:
>
> pg_dump -Fc dspace > /dspace/backup
>
> Then I recreated the database, per Postgresql's instruction for a new 
> database (as if it was
> a new installation)
>
> Then following the instructions:
>
> psql dspace < /dspace/backup
>
> I get the following errors:
>
> ERROR:  syntax error at or near "PGDMP" at character 1
> ERROR:  syntax error at or near "AS" at character 5
> ERROR:  syntax error at or near "" at character 1
> ERROR:  syntax error at or near "" at character 1  <---Ad nausem
>
> Then garbage characters.
>
> Facts regarding this procedure:
>
> User logged in as "Dspace"  (My assumption is user Dspace is able to 
> perform the backup)
> Postgres version:  7.4.6  for testing.
>
> Any postgres guru's out there that want to give me a hand in this?
>
> I would really like to master this, since snapshots, while good, do 
> not let you have a migration
> path.
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> Jeffrey A. Trimble
> Systems Librarian
> Youngstown State University
> Youngstown, OH
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (330) 941-2483
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[Dspace-tech] psql restoring a dump

2007-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Trimble
I'm attempting to revisit this nasty process.  I'm testing again to 
see if I can ever get this to work to have a suitable way for a 
migration path for new versions of Postgresql.  I was able to backup my
data using:

pg_dump -Fc dspace > /dspace/backup

Then I recreated the database, per Postgresql's instruction for a new 
database (as if it was
a new installation)

Then following the instructions:

psql dspace < /dspace/backup

I get the following errors:

ERROR:  syntax error at or near "PGDMP" at character 1
ERROR:  syntax error at or near "AS" at character 5
ERROR:  syntax error at or near "" at character 1
ERROR:  syntax error at or near "" at character 1  <---Ad nausem

Then garbage characters.

Facts regarding this procedure:

User logged in as "Dspace"  (My assumption is user Dspace is able to 
perform the backup)
Postgres version:  7.4.6  for testing.

Any postgres guru's out there that want to give me a hand in this?

I would really like to master this, since snapshots, while good, do 
not let you have a migration
path.

TIA,



Jeffrey A. Trimble
Systems Librarian
Youngstown State University
Youngstown, OH
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Keith Jones


I did a search in dspace.log and I'm not seeing any instances of 
verb=listIdentifiers in the log file. Currently in log4j.properties the 
log4j.rootCategory is set to INFO.  Am I correct in changing info to DEBUG 
will change the log reporting?


Thanks

On Tue, 29 May 2007, Claudia Jürgen wrote:


Hi Keith,

what does your dspace log files say?
Search for
verb=listIdentifiers

This should be
verb=listIdentifiers,from=0001-01-01T00:00:00Z,until=-12
-31T23:59:59Z,set=null,metadataPrefix=oai_dc

if no date range was given

Claudia


Keith Jones schrieb:


I initial tried using both tools.
Seems like I've made progress, and have passed the first 2 test but now the 
test has failed on the following:

request?verb=ListIdentifiers&metadataPrefix=oai_dc



On Tue, 29 May 2007, Claudia J�rgen wrote:


Hi Keith,

did you use the OAI Validation tool:
http://www.openarchives.org/Register/ValidateSite

or the repository explorer http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ ?

Claudia


Keith Jones schrieb:

Hello,

   We are running DSpace version 1.4.1, and we want to register our
repository as a OAI data provider.  I went to register but am unable to
because of the following error:

Malformed response: mismatched tag at line 11, column 62, byte 1114

We are sending back malformed XML when requests are being made.

Any help with this would be appreciated.

Thanks
Keith

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Re: [Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Keith Jones


I did not chnage anything in the oaicat.properties.

Here is my properties file:

###
# REMEMBER: ONLY UPDATE THE VERSION IN dspace/config/templates
# AND THEN RUN dspace/bin/install-configs!
# DO NOT EDIT THE 'LIVE' VERSION!
###

# OAICat Configuration file - see OAICat documentation for details

# Text surrounded by two '@' symbols is replaced with the corresponding
# property from dspace.cfg.  For example:
#
# http://dspace.udel.edu:8080/dspace
#
# would be replaced with the dspace.url property in dspace.cfg.
# When /dspace/bin/install-configs is run, this file will be installed in 
the

# location specified by the property: config.template.oaicat.properties

AbstractCatalog.oaiCatalogClassName=org.dspace.app.oai.DSpaceOAICatalog
AbstractCatalog.recordFactoryClassName=org.dspace.app.oai.DSpaceRecordFactory
AbstractCatalog.secondsToLive=3600

AbstractCatalog.granularity=-MM-DDThh:mm:ssZ
AbstractCatalog.oaiCatalogClassName=org.dspace.app.oai.DSpaceOAICatalog
AbstractCatalog.recordFactoryClassName=org.dspace.app.oai.DSpaceRecordFactory
AbstractCatalog.secondsToLive=3600

AbstractCatalog.granularity=-MM-DDThh:mm:ssZ

# Custom Identify response values
Identify.repositoryName=DSpace at UD
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Identify.earliestDatestamp=2001-01-01T00:00:00Z
Identify.deletedRecord=persistent

# List the supported metadataPrefixes along with the class that performs 
the ass

ociated crosswalk
#Crosswalks.didl=org.dspace.app.oai.DIDLCrosswalk
#Crosswalks.mets=org.dspace.app.oai.METSCrosswalk
Crosswalks.oai_dc=org.dspace.app.oai.OAIDCCrosswalk
# OAI crosswalks that use crosswalk plugins.  The
# metadataPrefixes must match the name of the plugin
# for interface org.dspace.content.crosswalk.DisseminationCrosswalk
# Crosswalks.mods=org.dspace.app.oai.PluginCrosswalk
# Crosswalks.mets=org.dspace.app.oai.PluginCrosswalk
# Crosswalks.qdc=org.dspace.app.oai.PluginCrosswalk


On Tue, 29 May 2007, Claudia Jürgen wrote:


Hi Keith,

this error occurs if the date argument is wrong

e.g.
http://dspace.udel.edu:8080/dspace-oai/request?verb=ListIdentifiers&from=2007-05-02&until=2006-05-02&metadataPrefix=oai_dc

having from > until

did you change any basic settings, e.g. oaicat.properties

Claudia


Keith Jones schrieb:


Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the help. Currently my initial problem originated because I
did not specify the correct base url.  Since correcting that problem the
repository is not pass the ListIdentifiers test.

The base url is:
http://dspace.udel.edu:8080/dspace-oai/request



On Tue, 29 May 2007, Stuart Lewis [sdl] wrote:


Hi Keith,

Can we see the repository, to see what errors it gives us?

Thanks,


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On 29/5/07 16:20, "Keith Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi Claudia,

Yes,

I used both sites and both are reporting and error in the XML returned.

The VlaidateSite failed on the return of the ?verb=Identify call.

And the explorer site returned and error for all the test.



On Tue, 29 May 2007, Claudia Jürgen wrote:


Hi Keith,

did you use the OAI Validation tool:
http://www.openarchives.org/Register/ValidateSite

or the repository explorer http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ ?

Claudia


Keith Jones schrieb:

Hello,

   We are running DSpace version 1.4.1, and we want to register our
repository as a OAI data provider.  I went to register but am
unable to
because of the following error:

Malformed response: mismatched tag at line 11, column 62, byte 1114

We are sending back malformed XML when requests are being made.

Any help with this would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Claudia Jürgen
Hi Keith,

what does your dspace log files say?
Search for
verb=listIdentifiers

This should be
verb=listIdentifiers,from=0001-01-01T00:00:00Z,until=-12
-31T23:59:59Z,set=null,metadataPrefix=oai_dc

if no date range was given

Claudia


Keith Jones schrieb:
> 
> I initial tried using both tools.
> Seems like I've made progress, and have passed the first 2 test but now 
> the test has failed on the following:
> request?verb=ListIdentifiers&metadataPrefix=oai_dc
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 29 May 2007, Claudia J�rgen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> did you use the OAI Validation tool:
>> http://www.openarchives.org/Register/ValidateSite
>>
>> or the repository explorer http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ ?
>>
>> Claudia
>>
>>
>> Keith Jones schrieb:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>We are running DSpace version 1.4.1, and we want to register our
>>> repository as a OAI data provider.  I went to register but am unable to
>>> because of the following error:
>>>
>>> Malformed response: mismatched tag at line 11, column 62, byte 1114
>>>
>>> We are sending back malformed XML when requests are being made.
>>>
>>> Any help with this would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Keith
>>>
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Claudia Jürgen
Hi Keith,

this error occurs if the date argument is wrong

e.g. 
http://dspace.udel.edu:8080/dspace-oai/request?verb=ListIdentifiers&from=2007-05-02&until=2006-05-02&metadataPrefix=oai_dc

having from > until

did you change any basic settings, e.g. oaicat.properties

Claudia


Keith Jones schrieb:
> 
> Hi Stuart,
> 
> Thanks for the help. Currently my initial problem originated because I 
> did not specify the correct base url.  Since correcting that problem the 
> repository is not pass the ListIdentifiers test.
> 
> The base url is:
> http://dspace.udel.edu:8080/dspace-oai/request
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 29 May 2007, Stuart Lewis [sdl] wrote:
> 
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Can we see the repository, to see what errors it gives us?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Stuart
>> _
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>>
>> On 29/5/07 16:20, "Keith Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Claudia,
>>>
>>> Yes,
>>>
>>> I used both sites and both are reporting and error in the XML returned.
>>>
>>> The VlaidateSite failed on the return of the ?verb=Identify call.
>>>
>>> And the explorer site returned and error for all the test.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 29 May 2007, Claudia Jürgen wrote:
>>>
 Hi Keith,

 did you use the OAI Validation tool:
 http://www.openarchives.org/Register/ValidateSite

 or the repository explorer http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ ?

 Claudia


 Keith Jones schrieb:
> Hello,
>
>We are running DSpace version 1.4.1, and we want to register our
> repository as a OAI data provider.  I went to register but am 
> unable to
> because of the following error:
>
> Malformed response: mismatched tag at line 11, column 62, byte 1114
>
> We are sending back malformed XML when requests are being made.
>
> Any help with this would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Keith
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Claudia Jürgen
Hi Keith,


Seems to be some date problem as

http://dspace.udel.edu:8080/dspace-oai/request?verb=ListIdentifiers&from=2000-05-02&until=2007-05-02&metadataPrefix=oai_dc

adding the optional arguments for "from" and "until" works.
So there must be something with the implicit from earlist date until 
today for this request if no date range is given.

Claudia






Keith Jones schrieb:
> 
> I initial tried using both tools.
> Seems like I've made progress, and have passed the first 2 test but now 
> the test has failed on the following:
> request?verb=ListIdentifiers&metadataPrefix=oai_dc
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 29 May 2007, Claudia J�rgen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> did you use the OAI Validation tool:
>> http://www.openarchives.org/Register/ValidateSite
>>
>> or the repository explorer http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ ?
>>
>> Claudia
>>
>>
>> Keith Jones schrieb:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>We are running DSpace version 1.4.1, and we want to register our
>>> repository as a OAI data provider.  I went to register but am unable to
>>> because of the following error:
>>>
>>> Malformed response: mismatched tag at line 11, column 62, byte 1114
>>>
>>> We are sending back malformed XML when requests are being made.
>>>
>>> Any help with this would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> - 
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Stuart Lewis [sdl]
Hi Keith,

> Thanks for the help. Currently my initial problem originated because I did
> not specify the correct base url.  Since correcting that problem the
> repository is not pass the ListIdentifiers test.
> 
> The base url is:
> http://dspace.udel.edu:8080/dspace-oai/request

Weird!

http://dspace.udel.edu:8080/dspace-oai/request?verb=ListIdentifiers&metadata
Prefix=oai_dc

suggests that you have no records, but your repository has plenty!

It is talking to your database OK:

http://dspace.udel.edu:8080/dspace-oai/request?verb=ListSets

Do your log files ([dspace]/log/) show anything? If you turn logging up to
DEBUG, they might show something, and will show the calls being made to the
database.

Thanks,


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Re: [Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Keith Jones


Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the help. Currently my initial problem originated because I did 
not specify the correct base url.  Since correcting that problem the 
repository is not pass the ListIdentifiers test.


The base url is:
http://dspace.udel.edu:8080/dspace-oai/request



On Tue, 29 May 2007, Stuart Lewis [sdl] wrote:


Hi Keith,

Can we see the repository, to see what errors it gives us?

Thanks,


Stuart
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On 29/5/07 16:20, "Keith Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi Claudia,

Yes,

I used both sites and both are reporting and error in the XML returned.

The VlaidateSite failed on the return of the ?verb=Identify call.

And the explorer site returned and error for all the test.



On Tue, 29 May 2007, Claudia Jürgen wrote:


Hi Keith,

did you use the OAI Validation tool:
http://www.openarchives.org/Register/ValidateSite

or the repository explorer http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ ?

Claudia


Keith Jones schrieb:

Hello,

   We are running DSpace version 1.4.1, and we want to register our
repository as a OAI data provider.  I went to register but am unable to
because of the following error:

Malformed response: mismatched tag at line 11, column 62, byte 1114

We are sending back malformed XML when requests are being made.

Any help with this would be appreciated.

Thanks
Keith

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Re: [Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Stuart Lewis [sdl]
Hi Keith,

Can we see the repository, to see what errors it gives us?

Thanks,


Stuart
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On 29/5/07 16:20, "Keith Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Hi Claudia,
> 
> Yes,
> 
> I used both sites and both are reporting and error in the XML returned.
> 
> The VlaidateSite failed on the return of the ?verb=Identify call.
> 
> And the explorer site returned and error for all the test.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 29 May 2007, Claudia Jürgen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Keith,
>> 
>> did you use the OAI Validation tool:
>> http://www.openarchives.org/Register/ValidateSite
>> 
>> or the repository explorer http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ ?
>> 
>> Claudia
>> 
>> 
>> Keith Jones schrieb:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>>We are running DSpace version 1.4.1, and we want to register our
>>> repository as a OAI data provider.  I went to register but am unable to
>>> because of the following error:
>>> 
>>> Malformed response: mismatched tag at line 11, column 62, byte 1114
>>> 
>>> We are sending back malformed XML when requests are being made.
>>> 
>>> Any help with this would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Keith
>>> 
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Keith Jones


I initial tried using both tools.
Seems like I've made progress, and have passed the first 2 test but now 
the test has failed on the following:

request?verb=ListIdentifiers&metadataPrefix=oai_dc



On Tue, 29 May 2007, Claudia J?rgen wrote:


Hi Keith,

did you use the OAI Validation tool:
http://www.openarchives.org/Register/ValidateSite

or the repository explorer http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ ?

Claudia


Keith Jones schrieb:

Hello,

   We are running DSpace version 1.4.1, and we want to register our
repository as a OAI data provider.  I went to register but am unable to
because of the following error:

Malformed response: mismatched tag at line 11, column 62, byte 1114

We are sending back malformed XML when requests are being made.

Any help with this would be appreciated.

Thanks
Keith

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Re: [Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Claudia Jürgen
Hi Keith,

did you use the OAI Validation tool:
http://www.openarchives.org/Register/ValidateSite

or the repository explorer http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ ?

Claudia


Keith Jones schrieb:
> Hello,
> 
>We are running DSpace version 1.4.1, and we want to register our 
> repository as a OAI data provider.  I went to register but am unable to 
> because of the following error:
> 
> Malformed response: mismatched tag at line 11, column 62, byte 1114
> 
> We are sending back malformed XML when requests are being made.
> 
> Any help with this would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Keith
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Claudia Jürgen
Hi Keith,

could you give a more detailed error or the raw xml output which the 
repository explorer provides?

Trying identify on http://dspace.udel.edu:8080/dspace-oai/request works 
fine. Or isn't this your site?

Claudia




Keith Jones schrieb:
> 
> Hi Claudia,
> 
> Yes,
> 
> I used both sites and both are reporting and error in the XML returned.
> 
> The VlaidateSite failed on the return of the ?verb=Identify call.
> 
> And the explorer site returned and error for all the test.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 29 May 2007, Claudia Jürgen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> did you use the OAI Validation tool:
>> http://www.openarchives.org/Register/ValidateSite
>>
>> or the repository explorer http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ ?
>>
>> Claudia
>>
>>
>> Keith Jones schrieb:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>We are running DSpace version 1.4.1, and we want to register our 
>>> repository as a OAI data provider.  I went to register but am unable 
>>> to because of the following error:
>>>
>>> Malformed response: mismatched tag at line 11, column 62, byte 1114
>>>
>>> We are sending back malformed XML when requests are being made.
>>>
>>> Any help with this would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Keith
>>>
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Keith Jones


Hi Claudia,

Yes,

I used both sites and both are reporting and error in the XML returned.

The VlaidateSite failed on the return of the ?verb=Identify call.

And the explorer site returned and error for all the test.



On Tue, 29 May 2007, Claudia Jürgen wrote:


Hi Keith,

did you use the OAI Validation tool:
http://www.openarchives.org/Register/ValidateSite

or the repository explorer http://re.cs.uct.ac.za/ ?

Claudia


Keith Jones schrieb:

Hello,

   We are running DSpace version 1.4.1, and we want to register our 
repository as a OAI data provider.  I went to register but am unable to 
because of the following error:


Malformed response: mismatched tag at line 11, column 62, byte 1114

We are sending back malformed XML when requests are being made.

Any help with this would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Persistent identifiers in DSpace -- thoughtsplease

2007-05-29 Thread Mark Diggory

On May 29, 2007, at 9:58 AM, James Rutherford wrote:

> On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:21:47AM -0400, Mark Diggory wrote:
>> PI resolvers come in all shapes and sizes, What all your talking
>> about implementing is proxy/resolution. I would highly recommend NOT
>> conflating the PI resolution mechanism (and why do we even have to
>> have one) with the url path with which a Community, Collection, Item
>> or Bitstream is referenced under in DSpace. What this means is that
>> you do not have a url on with you have to worry about the identifier
>> being properly escaped. You also only have to be concerned with
>> resolving one path to the Item for "any" PI system.
>> I.E.
>>
>> hdl:1234/5 --> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/item/ABCD
>>
>> and also
>>
>> doi:6789/0 --> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/item/ABCD
>
> OK, this is fine, but we'll need to define the form that we want  
> for the
> URL. If we don't use the canonical form of persistent identifiers for
> this, then we'll need to use another identifier that is unique across
> the site (presumably, something based on the database id of the  
> object).
> Using UUIDs (as suggested earlier) would *work*, but would produce
> horrid URLs.

1.) the important point is that it is unique across the site and  
represents Objects only in "that site". If have objects replicated  
from some other dspace via some replication scheme, the local  
identifiers (uid) are always different for those replicated items,  
any global identifiers (purl, handle, doi, lsid,...) do stay the  
same. The current PLEDGE (AIP) work does support a unique uri scheme  
for DSpace objects that should meet this requirement. See details here:

http://wiki.dspace.org/index.php/ObjectUri
http://wiki.dspace.org/index.php/HistorySystemPrototype
http://wiki.dspace.org/index.php/AipPrototype

Some of these uri get "horrid" as you put it with lots of escaped  
chars and uri encoding required, it would be good to discuss a syntax  
that does not require heavy amounts of uri encoding (which is an  
other separate topic in this thread).

2.) All global identifiers may provide their own resolution  
mechanism, and these are "diverse", its probably best DSpace should  
not try to provide a common "resolution service" for global  
identifiers. Each service needs/may to provide its own via the AddOn  
mechanism.

3.) DSpace needs to provide a common "registration service" or API  
which can be implemented in AddOn's for registering new global  
identifiers in various services, this mechanism may be "stackable"  
and support the registration of various global identifiers according  
to the naming scheme of that naming service (handle, purl, doi, oclc,  
etc.)

So, I think while UUID's would be sufficient, they are not necessary.  
The system would be robust with just unique identifiers per site.

-Mark

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Re: [Dspace-tech] Persistent identifiers in DSpace -- thoughtsplease

2007-05-29 Thread James Rutherford
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:21:47AM -0400, Mark Diggory wrote:
> PI resolvers come in all shapes and sizes, What all your talking  
> about implementing is proxy/resolution. I would highly recommend NOT  
> conflating the PI resolution mechanism (and why do we even have to  
> have one) with the url path with which a Community, Collection, Item  
> or Bitstream is referenced under in DSpace. What this means is that  
> you do not have a url on with you have to worry about the identifier  
> being properly escaped. You also only have to be concerned with  
> resolving one path to the Item for "any" PI system.
> I.E.
> 
> hdl:1234/5 --> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/item/ABCD
> 
> and also
> 
> doi:6789/0 --> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/item/ABCD

OK, this is fine, but we'll need to define the form that we want for the
URL. If we don't use the canonical form of persistent identifiers for
this, then we'll need to use another identifier that is unique across
the site (presumably, something based on the database id of the object).
Using UUIDs (as suggested earlier) would *work*, but would produce
horrid URLs.

cheers,

Jim

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[Dspace-tech] Problem with Data Provider Validation

2007-05-29 Thread Keith Jones

Hello,

   We are running DSpace version 1.4.1, and we want to register our 
repository as a OAI data provider.  I went to register but am unable to 
because of the following error:

Malformed response: mismatched tag at line 11, column 62, byte 1114

We are sending back malformed XML when requests are being made.

Any help with this would be appreciated.

Thanks
Keith

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Re: [Dspace-tech] Persistent identifiers in DSpace -- thoughtsplease

2007-05-29 Thread Graham Triggs
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 12:52 +0100, James Rutherford wrote:
> Well if we're going to be strict, we should escape the value of the
> handle 1234/56 as 1234%2F56. Since DSpace already breaks this rule, I
> didn't deem including a colon as such a great crime ;)

Fair point, and you are probably right. But there is strict and there is
strict... and it isn't entirely clear that the handle should be treated
as a complete unit rather than the separation of prefix and suffix -
globally, that's how they need to be referred to, but then we're
discussing local urls here ;-)

Yes an unescaped slash isn't going to do anything harmful. An unescaped
colon in the middle of the url could easily trigger url parsing bugs and
security problems.

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Re: [Dspace-tech] Persistent identifiers in DSpace -- thoughtsplease

2007-05-29 Thread Mark Diggory
Hey Folks,

PI resolvers come in all shapes and sizes, What all your talking  
about implementing is proxy/resolution. I would highly recommend NOT  
conflating the PI resolution mechanism (and why do we even have to  
have one) with the url path with which a Community, Collection, Item  
or Bitstream is referenced under in DSpace. What this means is that  
you do not have a url on with you have to worry about the identifier  
being properly escaped. You also only have to be concerned with  
resolving one path to the Item for "any" PI system.

I.E.

hdl:1234/5 --> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/item/ABCD

and also

doi:6789/0 --> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/item/ABCD

Don't conflate local and global identification.

Cheers,
Mark Diggory

On May 29, 2007, at 7:52 AM, James Rutherford wrote:

> On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:56:58AM +0100, Graham Triggs wrote:
>> On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 11:43 +0100, James Rutherford wrote:
>>> I don't see what's so unusual or undesirable about colons. The  
>>> reasoning
>>> behind doing it this way was so that the value after "/uri/" is the
>>> canonical form of the identifier.
>>
>> The colon is a reserved character, and in this example would have  
>> to be
>> encoded to be strictly valid according to the specifications - which
>> would then mean it isn't the canonical form.
>
> Well if we're going to be strict, we should escape the value of the
> handle 1234/56 as 1234%2F56. Since DSpace already breaks this rule, I
> didn't deem including a colon as such a great crime ;) Of course, it
> would be better if we could use an identifier scheme that didn't  
> require
> escaped characters, but most will at least have a "/" to separate  
> prefix
> from suffix. If we're going to be strict, I think I'd favour the
> following form:
>
> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/hdl%3A1234%2F56
>
> or maybe
>
> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/hdl/1234%2F56
>
> Jim
>
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Persistent identifiers in DSpace -- thoughtsplease

2007-05-29 Thread James Rutherford
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:56:58AM +0100, Graham Triggs wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 11:43 +0100, James Rutherford wrote:
> > I don't see what's so unusual or undesirable about colons. The reasoning
> > behind doing it this way was so that the value after "/uri/" is the
> > canonical form of the identifier.
> 
> The colon is a reserved character, and in this example would have to be
> encoded to be strictly valid according to the specifications - which
> would then mean it isn't the canonical form.

Well if we're going to be strict, we should escape the value of the
handle 1234/56 as 1234%2F56. Since DSpace already breaks this rule, I
didn't deem including a colon as such a great crime ;) Of course, it
would be better if we could use an identifier scheme that didn't require
escaped characters, but most will at least have a "/" to separate prefix
from suffix. If we're going to be strict, I think I'd favour the
following form:

http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/hdl%3A1234%2F56

or maybe

http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/hdl/1234%2F56

Jim

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Re: [Dspace-tech] Persistent identifiers in DSpace -- thoughtsplease

2007-05-29 Thread Graham Triggs
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 11:43 +0100, James Rutherford wrote:
> I don't see what's so unusual or undesirable about colons. The reasoning
> behind doing it this way was so that the value after "/uri/" is the
> canonical form of the identifier.

The colon is a reserved character, and in this example would have to be
encoded to be strictly valid according to the specifications - which
would then mean it isn't the canonical form.

Not encoding the colon will have the potential to cause problems with
proxies, firewalls, etc.

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Re: [Dspace-tech] Persistent identifiers in DSpace -- thoughtsplease

2007-05-29 Thread James Rutherford
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:12:13AM +0100, Graham Triggs wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 10:44 +0100, James Rutherford wrote:
> > > 3) Including special characters in the URL string doesn't seem like a
> > > good idea.  While they are valid characters, it does take extra
> > > processing to encode/decode them from layer to layer.
> > 
> > As I mention on the wiki, my current idea is to have URLs of the form:
> > 
> > http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/hdl:1234/56
> > 
> > which will resolve to the object with Handle 1234/56, etc. If the
> > object also has a DOI with value 7890/12 then the following URL would
> > point to the object as well:
> > 
> > http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/doi:7890/12
> > 
> > It is necessary to include the "hdl:" and "doi:" parts so we can
> > distinguish between different persistent identifier mechanisms. The
> > values allowed for the persistent identifier are dependent on the
> > mechanism we are dealing with, and as far as possible this will be kept
> > simple.
> 
> Whilst it is necessary to identify the persistent id scheme, that
> doesn't mean that using a colon as part of the identifier is necessary
> or desirable. Colons - or other 'unusual' characters - will end up
> causing problems.

I don't see what's so unusual or undesirable about colons. The reasoning
behind doing it this way was so that the value after "/uri/" is the
canonical form of the identifier.

> In fact, I don't even see that there is a reason to include 'uri' in the
> url. Why not just support the existing:
> 
> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/handle/1234/56
> 
> for handles, and:
> 
> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/doi/7890/12
> 
> for DOIs, etc.?

This is certainly an option.

Jim

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Re: [Dspace-tech] Persistent identifiers in DSpace -- thoughtsplease

2007-05-29 Thread Graham Triggs
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 10:44 +0100, James Rutherford wrote:
> > 3) Including special characters in the URL string doesn't seem like a
> > good idea.  While they are valid characters, it does take extra
> > processing to encode/decode them from layer to layer.
> 
> As I mention on the wiki, my current idea is to have URLs of the form:
> 
> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/hdl:1234/56
> 
> which will resolve to the object with Handle 1234/56, etc. If the
> object also has a DOI with value 7890/12 then the following URL would
> point to the object as well:
> 
> http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/doi:7890/12
> 
> It is necessary to include the "hdl:" and "doi:" parts so we can
> distinguish between different persistent identifier mechanisms. The
> values allowed for the persistent identifier are dependent on the
> mechanism we are dealing with, and as far as possible this will be kept
> simple.

Whilst it is necessary to identify the persistent id scheme, that
doesn't mean that using a colon as part of the identifier is necessary
or desirable. Colons - or other 'unusual' characters - will end up
causing problems.

In fact, I don't even see that there is a reason to include 'uri' in the
url. Why not just support the existing:

http://dspace.me.ac.uk/handle/1234/56

for handles, and:

http://dspace.me.ac.uk/doi/7890/12

for DOIs, etc.?

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Re: [Dspace-tech] Persistent identifiers in DSpace -- thoughts please

2007-05-29 Thread James Rutherford
On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 03:39:12PM -0500, Brad Teale wrote:
> How do you determine which PI system generates a PId (base it
> on collection, community)?  What if one PI system fails (URL
> unreachable, temporarily down) and it is needed to resolve the PId?
> Could it be possible to create a loop of PIds that resolve to different
> PI systems while moving through the PI system stack?

Something to note is that I don't anticipate objects normally having
more than one identifier. While the prototype allows this, it will still
be the case that objects are only assigned one identifier (according to
configuration -- the details of which are still undecided) but now we
are able to associate multiople identifiers to objects (the stack is
there to define what we understand), and resolve them all to the correct
place.

> 3) Including special characters in the URL string doesn't seem like a
> good idea.  While they are valid characters, it does take extra
> processing to encode/decode them from layer to layer.  Why not just
> leave the URL alone or change /handle to something like /uri, /id, or
> /pid?  Why encode the PI system into the URI?

As I mention on the wiki, my current idea is to have URLs of the form:

http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/hdl:1234/56

which will resolve to the object with Handle 1234/56, etc. If the
object also has a DOI with value 7890/12 then the following URL would
point to the object as well:

http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/doi:7890/12

It is necessary to include the "hdl:" and "doi:" parts so we can
distinguish between different persistent identifier mechanisms. The
values allowed for the persistent identifier are dependent on the
mechanism we are dealing with, and as far as possible this will be kept
simple.

> As far as having a default PI system out of the box for Dspace, I would
> recommend using a local identifier schema which used the existing URLs.
>  Include the Handle PI system in the release as a configurable option,
> but not turned on by default.  This would remove the fake handle being
> assigned to all objects and clean up the default URLs out of the box.

I've already experimented with a "null" identifier that can be used to
resolve to objects locally. For example, in my prototype, the following
url would resolve to the Item with internal id 4:

http://dspace.me.ac.uk/uri/dsi:2/4

I'm still not convinced that this is a good idea, but it seems useful
and it makes accessing individual bitstreams a little more predictable
and consistent with the other objects.

cheers,

Jim

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[Dspace-tech] Postgres optimizations

2007-05-29 Thread Mika Stenberg
Im hoping to get some hints for postgres performance optimization. Our 
DSpace (1.4.1) has started to run really slow after the number of items 
exceeded 40 000 (mainly metadata, few full texts only).

I tried increasing work_memory and max_fsm_pages in postgres.conf but 
with little help. Im also running regular vacuum and reindex for the db.

Any help would be appreaciated,
-Mika

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