[Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same callsign

2002-05-06 Thread Alan C. Zack
OK, how about doing a CQWWDX from a DXpedition using a heavy duty truck
battery for transmitter power and a 12 volt table light when the commercial
power is off 8 to 10 hours a day, running on all 5 bands and using a paper
dupe sheet for each band.  THAT gets to be real fun without a PC and
computer log.
73

Bob Naumann - N5NJ wrote:
> 
> Actually, many of us did.
> 
> I used the 5BDXCC sheets that Cuschcraft used to give out in Dayton every
> year.
> 
> I color coded SSB qsos red, cw qsos blue, and a black dot indicated when it
> was confirmed.  5BDXCC all on one 11x14 sheet of paper with 3 'Flair' pens.
> Very low-tech.
> 
> It was all done on paper - and - imagine this - much of the details were by
> memory!
> 
> It was not uncommon for people to remember facts like who the QSL manager
> was for an operation - even two of them - one per mode like for this K1B
> operation.
> 
> 73,
> Bob N5NJ
> QCWA, DXCC
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Barry " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bob Naumann - N5NJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same
> callsign
> 
> > We didn't chase every band/mode combination, so we didn't need such
> > exhaustive record keeping. I recall having 3 DXCC lists, one for each
> > mode. A check mark next to the country meant worked, and if/when I
> > got a card, it was crossed off.
> > Barry W2UP
> >
> >
> > On 5 May 2002 Bob Naumann - N5NJ wrote:
> >
> > > Shelby,
> > >
> > > I agree with you.
> > >
> > > Remember just a few years ago when we actually did all of this manually?
> > > How did we ever manage it?
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Bob N5NJ
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Shelby Summerville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:08 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same
> > > callsign
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dang..have y'all become so spoiled with the automation of logging,
> > > that
> > > > y'all have forgotten what was done using "paper logs"? Remember them?
> Why
> > > > not just use the "notes for this QSO" box for situations such as this,
> and
> > > > move on! Is it really necessary to have the manager printed on the
> label
> > > for
> > > > "direct" QSL's? Bureau QSL's are another situation, and would require
> some
> > > > "alteration"?
> > > > C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Roger Borowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:38 AM
> > > > Subject: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same
> > > callsign
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What I've found to work for me is to alter the callsign such as;
> K1B/SSB
> > > for
> > > > SSB QSO's and list the manager for that callsign as RZ3AA and all
> other
> > > > modes for K1B QSO's QSL to YT1AD. You do have to remember to alter the
> > > > callsign for any SSB QSO but if you set the first SSB QSO with K1B to
> > > > K1B/SSB and also make the Baker & Howland Island exception for K1B/SSB
> in
> > > > the prefix box, then set the QSL manager to RZ3AA, all subsequent
> QSO's
> > > with
> > > > K1B/SSB will have the correct QSL manager. 73, -=Rog-K9RB=-
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[Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same callsign

2002-05-05 Thread Barry
We didn't chase every band/mode combination, so we didn't need such 
exhaustive record keeping. I recall having 3 DXCC lists, one for each 
mode. A check mark next to the country meant worked, and if/when I 
got a card, it was crossed off.
Barry W2UP


On 5 May 2002 Bob Naumann - N5NJ wrote:

> Shelby,
> 
> I agree with you.
> 
> Remember just a few years ago when we actually did all of this manually?
> How did we ever manage it?
> 
> 73,
> Bob N5NJ
> - Original Message -
> From: "Shelby Summerville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same
> callsign
> 
> 
> > Dang..have y'all become so spoiled with the automation of logging,
> that
> > y'all have forgotten what was done using "paper logs"? Remember them? Why
> > not just use the "notes for this QSO" box for situations such as this, and
> > move on! Is it really necessary to have the manager printed on the label
> for
> > "direct" QSL's? Bureau QSL's are another situation, and would require some
> > "alteration"?
> > C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: "Roger Borowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:38 AM
> > Subject: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same
> callsign
> >
> >
> > What I've found to work for me is to alter the callsign such as; K1B/SSB
> for
> > SSB QSO's and list the manager for that callsign as RZ3AA and all other
> > modes for K1B QSO's QSL to YT1AD. You do have to remember to alter the
> > callsign for any SSB QSO but if you set the first SSB QSO with K1B to
> > K1B/SSB and also make the Baker & Howland Island exception for K1B/SSB in
> > the prefix box, then set the QSL manager to RZ3AA, all subsequent QSO's
> with
> > K1B/SSB will have the correct QSL manager. 73, -=Rog-K9RB=-
> >
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[Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same callsign

2002-05-05 Thread <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Borowski)
The "notes for QSO" box never gets seen again after the QSO is entered in the
log unless you go back and select that particular QSO for review! When printing
QSL labels, if the QSO's aren't segregated by the manager/mode, multiple QSO's
will print on the same label while they need to go to different managers!
Besides, some people, like myself, rarely send any QSL's out direct to
managers, but use a service, such as WF5E provides. At this point, I am in no
hurry for any QSL's as they are only various band and mode "fillers" for me. I
now have over 60,000 QSL cards over the past 41 years in my files representing
#1 DXCC Honor Roll, Mixed, Phone, and CW (since 1994) but I still QSL 100%. If
you are just a casual operator, paper logs and manual QSL'ing could still work
fine for you. I'm sure there are many others who can also appreciate the
benefits of computerized logging and accurate QSL label printing. Besides the
system I described in my original message, time consuming manual QSL'ing would
be the only other option of getting the right QSO's to the right manager in
this particular case. 73, -=Rog-K9RB=-


- Original Message -
From: Shelby Summerville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same
callsign


> Dang..have y'all become so spoiled with the automation of logging, that
> y'all have forgotten what was done using "paper logs"? Remember them? Why
> not just use the "notes for this QSO" box for situations such as this, and
> move on! Is it really necessary to have the manager printed on the label for
> "direct" QSL's? Bureau QSL's are another situation, and would require some
> "alteration"?
> C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Roger Borowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:38 AM
> Subject: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same callsign
>
>
> What I've found to work for me is to alter the callsign such as; K1B/SSB for
> SSB QSO's and list the manager for that callsign as RZ3AA and all other
> modes for K1B QSO's QSL to YT1AD. You do have to remember to alter the
> callsign for any SSB QSO but if you set the first SSB QSO with K1B to
> K1B/SSB and also make the Baker & Howland Island exception for K1B/SSB in
> the prefix box, then set the QSL manager to RZ3AA, all subsequent QSO's with
> K1B/SSB will have the correct QSL manager. 73, -=Rog-K9RB=-
>
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[Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same callsign

2002-05-05 Thread David Tilley

Shelby Summerville wrote:

>Dang..have y'all become so spoiled with the automation of logging, that
>y'all have forgotten what was done using "paper logs"? Remember them? Why
>not just use the "notes for this QSO" box for situations such as this, and
>move on! Is it really necessary to have the manager printed on the label for
>"direct" QSL's? Bureau QSL's are another situation, and would require some
>"alteration"?
> 
>
For one thing, in addition to the manager printed on the label, it also 
prints the address label for the envelope.  The reason they make 
computer logging programs is so you don't have to mess with paper logs 
and hand addressing envelopes.   Hey, the features are there, why not 
use them?

- David, W4HPW

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[Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same callsign

2002-05-05 Thread Shelby Summerville
Dang..have y'all become so spoiled with the automation of logging, that
y'all have forgotten what was done using "paper logs"? Remember them? Why
not just use the "notes for this QSO" box for situations such as this, and
move on! Is it really necessary to have the manager printed on the label for
"direct" QSL's? Bureau QSL's are another situation, and would require some
"alteration"?
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
- Original Message -
From: "Roger Borowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:38 AM
Subject: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same callsign


What I've found to work for me is to alter the callsign such as; K1B/SSB for
SSB QSO's and list the manager for that callsign as RZ3AA and all other
modes for K1B QSO's QSL to YT1AD. You do have to remember to alter the
callsign for any SSB QSO but if you set the first SSB QSO with K1B to
K1B/SSB and also make the Baker & Howland Island exception for K1B/SSB in
the prefix box, then set the QSL manager to RZ3AA, all subsequent QSO's with
K1B/SSB will have the correct QSL manager. 73, -=Rog-K9RB=-


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[Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same callsign

2002-05-05 Thread David Tilley

Roger Borowski wrote:

>What I've found to work for me is to alter the callsign such as; K1B/SSB for 
>SSB QSO's and list the manager for that callsign as RZ3AA and all other modes 
>for K1B QSO's QSL to YT1AD. You do have to remember to alter the callsign for 
>any SSB QSO but if you set the first SSB QSO with K1B to K1B/SSB and also make 
>the Baker & Howland Island exception for K1B/SSB in the prefix box, then set 
>the QSL manager to RZ3AA, all subsequent QSO's with K1B/SSB will have the 
>correct QSL manager. 73, -=Rog-K9RB=- 
>
> 
>
That sounds like a winner, Roger.  I had thought of the notes field as a 
couple of others mentioned, but that wouldn't make the labels print 
properly.  Setting the start and stop dates wouldn't work either because 
some of the CW and SSB contacts are on the same day.

Presumably the K1B QSL manager won't object to seeing a "/SSB" after the 
callsign.  I doubt seriously they keep the cards anyway.  In fact, I 
THINK it was KU9C who said just to stick the labels on a piece of paper 
and send that to him.  Thanks again Roger and to everybody else who replied.

- David

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[Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same callsign

2002-05-05 Thread Bob Naumann - N5NJ
Actually, many of us did.

I used the 5BDXCC sheets that Cuschcraft used to give out in Dayton every
year.

I color coded SSB qsos red, cw qsos blue, and a black dot indicated when it
was confirmed.  5BDXCC all on one 11x14 sheet of paper with 3 'Flair' pens.
Very low-tech.

It was all done on paper - and - imagine this - much of the details were by
memory!

It was not uncommon for people to remember facts like who the QSL manager
was for an operation - even two of them - one per mode like for this K1B
operation.

73,
Bob N5NJ
QCWA, DXCC

- Original Message -
From: "Barry " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bob Naumann - N5NJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same
callsign


> We didn't chase every band/mode combination, so we didn't need such
> exhaustive record keeping. I recall having 3 DXCC lists, one for each
> mode. A check mark next to the country meant worked, and if/when I
> got a card, it was crossed off.
> Barry W2UP
>
>
> On 5 May 2002 Bob Naumann - N5NJ wrote:
>
> > Shelby,
> >
> > I agree with you.
> >
> > Remember just a few years ago when we actually did all of this manually?
> > How did we ever manage it?
> >
> > 73,
> > Bob N5NJ
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: "Shelby Summerville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same
> > callsign
> >
> >
> > > Dang..have y'all become so spoiled with the automation of logging,
> > that
> > > y'all have forgotten what was done using "paper logs"? Remember them?
Why
> > > not just use the "notes for this QSO" box for situations such as this,
and
> > > move on! Is it really necessary to have the manager printed on the
label
> > for
> > > "direct" QSL's? Bureau QSL's are another situation, and would require
some
> > > "alteration"?
> > > C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Roger Borowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:38 AM
> > > Subject: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same
> > callsign
> > >
> > >
> > > What I've found to work for me is to alter the callsign such as;
K1B/SSB
> > for
> > > SSB QSO's and list the manager for that callsign as RZ3AA and all
other
> > > modes for K1B QSO's QSL to YT1AD. You do have to remember to alter the
> > > callsign for any SSB QSO but if you set the first SSB QSO with K1B to
> > > K1B/SSB and also make the Baker & Howland Island exception for K1B/SSB
in
> > > the prefix box, then set the QSL manager to RZ3AA, all subsequent
QSO's
> > with
> > > K1B/SSB will have the correct QSL manager. 73, -=Rog-K9RB=-
> > >
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[Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same callsign

2002-05-05 Thread <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Borowski)
What I've found to work for me is to alter the callsign such as; K1B/SSB =
for SSB QSO's and list the manager for that callsign as RZ3AA and all =
other modes for K1B QSO's QSL to YT1AD. You do have to remember to alter =
the callsign for any SSB QSO but if you set the first SSB QSO with K1B =
to K1B/SSB and also make the Baker & Howland Island exception for =
K1B/SSB in the prefix box, then set the QSL manager to RZ3AA, all =
subsequent QSO's with K1B/SSB will have the correct QSL manager. 73, =
-=3DRog-K9RB=3D-=20


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[Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same callsign

2002-05-05 Thread Bob Naumann - N5NJ
Shelby,

I agree with you.

Remember just a few years ago when we actually did all of this manually?
How did we ever manage it?

73,
Bob N5NJ
- Original Message -
From: "Shelby Summerville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same
callsign


> Dang..have y'all become so spoiled with the automation of logging,
that
> y'all have forgotten what was done using "paper logs"? Remember them? Why
> not just use the "notes for this QSO" box for situations such as this, and
> move on! Is it really necessary to have the manager printed on the label
for
> "direct" QSL's? Bureau QSL's are another situation, and would require some
> "alteration"?
> C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Borowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:38 AM
> Subject: [Dx4win] Multiple QSL managers for different modes on same
callsign
>
>
> What I've found to work for me is to alter the callsign such as; K1B/SSB
for
> SSB QSO's and list the manager for that callsign as RZ3AA and all other
> modes for K1B QSO's QSL to YT1AD. You do have to remember to alter the
> callsign for any SSB QSO but if you set the first SSB QSO with K1B to
> K1B/SSB and also make the Baker & Howland Island exception for K1B/SSB in
> the prefix box, then set the QSL manager to RZ3AA, all subsequent QSO's
with
> K1B/SSB will have the correct QSL manager. 73, -=Rog-K9RB=-
>
>
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