Re: [Felvtalk] Sadly, Black Tom crossed the rainbow bridge last week

[Gloria Lane]

I'm so sorry Kelley, as u know it's so hard to lose our sweet kitties. 
Blessings. 

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On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:03 PM,  wrote:

> When you take the time to help, never blame yourself for what you did or did 
> not do.  You tried and that is morethan others did.  You gave love.
>  Bonnie Hogue  wrote: 
>> Kelley
>> 
>> So sorry for the loss of Black Tom.  Each cat is special and their life
>> counts.  It is so difficult to tell when to intervene sometimes.  I hope his
>> helper comes to see it is not her fault, and to appreciate the times they
>> spent together.
>> 
>> Peace.
>> 
>> ~Bonnie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:26 AM
>> To: felvtalk
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Sadly, Black Tom crossed the rainbow bridge last week
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> His feeder is devastated.  I am sure she blames herself for not taking him
>> to the vet sooner.  Thanks very much to those of you who offered him
>> sanctuary.  I can always depend on this list for help.
>> 
>> Kelley
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>> 
>> http://www.rescuties.org  
>> 
>> Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!
>> 
>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
>> 
>> http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
>> 
>> Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
>> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please help Trooper!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they
>> can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they
>> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Nathan Winograd
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

[Gloria Lane]

So sorry Marcia, our babies who have passed on will meet him on the bridge to 
guide him on his way. My Mr Zblack Kitty,dear Calawalla Banana Booboo, Mittens, 
and more...blessings

Gloria 

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On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:21 PM, Peggy Verdonck  wrote:

> I'm so sorry! I've been reading your thread. Sad to hear he didn't make :-(
> RIP Fletch
> 
> On Sep 7, 2011 11:02 PM, "Marcia Baronda"  wrote:
> > Hi everyone
> > 
> > Very sad night, fletch got really bad, started crying and having a hard 
> > time breathing. I called the vet and asked that he be put to sleep. Well, 
> > we didn't make it, Fletch died on the way there. I feel so bad that he had 
> > to suffer like that. But he no longer will. He was just a few weeks over a 
> > year old. He was loved so very much during his short life.
> > 
> > Thanks for all your help
> > Marcia
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

[Peggy Verdonck]

I'm so sorry! I've been reading your thread. Sad to hear he didn't make :-(
RIP Fletch

On Sep 7, 2011 11:02 PM, "Marcia Baronda"  wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> Very sad night, fletch got really bad, started crying and having a hard
time breathing. I called the vet and asked that he be put to sleep. Well, we
didn't make it, Fletch died on the way there. I feel so bad that he had to
suffer like that. But he no longer will. He was just a few weeks over a year
old. He was loved so very much during his short life.
>
> Thanks for all your help
> Marcia
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Biocoat - contains B12 and more

[dlgegg]

WHAT IF YOU THREATEN THEM WITH INSTANT DEATH, DO YOU THINK HEY WOULD LISTEN 
THEN?  EVERYONW WHO COMES TO MY HOUUSE KNOWS TO KNOCK BEFORE THEY COME IN.  I 
OPEN THE DOOR, NOT THEM.  THEY DON'T CALL ME THE CRAZY CAT LADY FOR NOTHING.


 Marcia Baronda  wrote: 
> People don't understand and some just plain do not care, sadly.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Sep 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Natalie  wrote:
> 
> > That’s exactly what I have found – they just ignore everything.  I had to 
> > be a policeman, constantly running to the door when I heard it open – I was 
> > a bundle of nerves for about 8-9 months when we had an addition done to the 
> > house.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
> > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 1:06 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Biocoat - contains B12 and more
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > FYI:  I have left cats behind locked doors with signs and promises as to 
> > what would happen if any one let a cat outI have had people, especially 
> > construction and cleaning people, find a way to unlock the door and totally 
> > disregard what they were told"we had to"..."we were watching"..."we 
> > caught him."  The worst offenders have been people who have been compliant 
> > for months then decide they know more than I do about my cats.  The more I 
> > have trusted workers the more they have endangered my critters.
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > On Sep 5, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Natalie wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > When and why was your door left open door open? 
> > 
> > If we had to leave this house, we wouldn’t allow anyone to leave doors 
> > open, should they have to work in there!  I threaten workers with a penalty 
> > worse than death, should they allow any cat to get out.  If doors were left 
> > open around here, believe me, they’d run out spooked….,and I’d have to 
> > track them down, some would have to be trapped - it would be a nightmare!
> > 
> > Don’t even want to think about that.
> > 
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of CATHERINE DIDONNA
> > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 12:13 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Biocoat - contains B12 and more
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > last week,or the week before,the same day as the earthquake in NY.I had a 
> > gas pipe break on my street . The fireman knocked on everyones door:we had 
> > to leave our homes.I didn't want to leave my cats. He said I had to get 
> > out. He also said no cats got out when the door was open. I left my 
> > house,blessed myelf,and askedGod to let me be OK,and let the house be OK:so 
> > I could take care of my furry family. I have more than 30 cats.But, anyway, 
> > I wish I was in jamies,or a gown. If yousaw the N Y firemen you would 
> > understand.SMILE
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 9/5/11, katskat1  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: katskat1 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Biocoat - contains B12 and more
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Monday, September 5, 2011, 1:35 AM
> > 
> > Biotin?  I take it myself and get it at Walmart.  Same thing?
> > 
> > 
> > On 9/4/11, Natalie  wrote:
> > > True - that was my worst worry, that windows might be smashed and cats 
> > > could
> > > get out.. I slept dressed that one night, because I wanted to be ready
> > > should anything happen.can you imagine being caught in an emergency in a
> > > night gown or jammies?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 1:39 PM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Biocoat - contains B12 and more
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Natalie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am glad you and yours are OK! I'll bet you were extra worried just 
> > > because
> > > of the little lives that are in your hands. I know that when we are in a
> > > tornado warning or anything that could affect my animals, that's all I can
> > > focus on , is keeping them safe! So glad you are OK(-:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Marcia
> > >
> > > On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Natalie  wrote:
> > >
> > > I also use, and must reorder some Biotin from Nickers International.  
> > > It's a
> > > great supplement that contains the right amount of B12, and more, and cats
> > > like it mixed into their food.
> > > http://www.nickersinternational.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=04016
> > >  > > ow=ExtInfo> &Sho
> > > w=ExtInfo
> > >
> > >
> > > Description/Instructions/Ingredients
> > >
> > > Nutritional supplement rich in biotin (6 mg per tsp), an essential B 
> > > vitamin
> > > and nutritional enzyme for the synthesis of fatty acids - important 
> > > building
> > > blocks for skin and coat. Biotin helps metabolize carbohyd

Re: [Felvtalk] reply

[ccarlsberg]

I need to find mine a home. I'm in Los Angeles
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From: katskat1 
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:35:32 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] reply

As it appears you really don't want to keep this cat perhaps you can
let us know where you live so we can try and help?

Kat

On 9/7/11, dlg...@windstream.net  wrote:
> I have been mixig felv pos and neg since 2008 and no problems yet.  Everyone
> passed their physical with flying colors this year.  Agai, I think giving
> quality food, love, a stable home and lots of exercise and clean water (I
> use fountains) is the key.  This way, thei immune systems are operating at
> peak and bette able to resist infections.
>
>
>  Gloria Lane  wrote:
>> It's certainly personal  choice, I certainly understand.  Like I say, I've
>> mixed for several years and never had problems. I mix w FIV cats too. FIV
>> cats seem to have some problems with uri and gingivitis, never had one get
>> Felv. I think vets don't have much experience w FIV or Felv cats except
>> for the sick ones that come in and book learning, and the party line is to
>> isolate Felv cats  so i understand. But I still find varying opinions
>> among vets some more flexible than others.
>>
>> Gloria
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:50 PM, dot winkler  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi - I have been reading a lot of people saying that they have been
>> > mixing the cats.  But I called my vet and he again said that it is
>> > risky.  There is still a risk and chance the others could get it.  And
>> > they may not pull out of it like my cat Chloe FELV) did during the first
>> > fever.  I wouldn't want my other cat, Kitty to come down with it.  The
>> > other male cat I have, Lion, has AIDS (FIV).  I think he would be more
>> > susceptible of getting it even though he's been boostered with the
>> > Leukemia booster.
>> > I would like to adopt Chloe out (FELV) also because the trio don't get
>> > along.  They only get along in two's.  In other words, Chloe and Lion
>> > get along.  But when you put Kitty into the mix, they become
>> > territorial.  Vice versa.  Kitty now gets along with Lion since Chloe
>> > has been out of the picture.  I would love to find Chloe a home with one
>> > other feline leukemia cat so she can have a buddy.  I am still trying.
>> > But I'm open to ideas and input.  Dotty
>> >
>> > From: Terri Brown 
>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:22 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT
>> >
>> > Dot,  if your other cats are current on vaccinations and are negative, I
>> > see no reason why you shouldn't mix them.  Like I've said before, I've
>> > mixed mine in the past and never have I had a negative become infected.
>> >
>> > My 2 cents.
>> >
>> > =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6
>> > furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi
>> > =^..^=
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: dot winkler
>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:02 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT
>> >
>> > Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the
>> > disease  Can you believe this.  O.K.  So, what do you know about the
>> > 5 stages?  What does it mean?  I think I heard that if your cat can make
>> > it through all five stages, then they have developed an immunity to the
>> > disease.  Anyway, how is it keeping your cat apart from the others?  My
>> > cat is so lonely.  It breaks my heart.  She wants to play with the
>> > others. Esp the male cat who she knows from the clan where i rescued the
>> > two of them.  I really would love to adopt her out.  Just having a hard
>> > time finding someone.  P.S. - I like the name Spicy!  It is cute.  Dot
>> >
>> > From: April Johnson 
>> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
>> >
>> > Hi Dot,
>> >
>> > This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in
>> > a bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree
>> > and a sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I didn't know
>> > she had it.  I adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the
>> > vet a week later.  The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed
>> > getting the test done because she knew that the shelter I adopted her
>> > from didn't test, I had no idea.  So for a week she was with my other
>> > cats.  I just looked it up there are 6 stages of FELV.  Spicy is in
>> > stage 5.
>> > From: dot winkler 
>> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
>> >
>> > Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year

Re: [Felvtalk] Sadly, Black Tom crossed the rainbow bridge last week

[dlgegg]

When you take the time to help, never blame yourself for what you did or did 
not do.  You tried and that is morethan others did.  You gave love.
 Bonnie Hogue  wrote: 
> Kelley
> 
> So sorry for the loss of Black Tom.  Each cat is special and their life
> counts.  It is so difficult to tell when to intervene sometimes.  I hope his
> helper comes to see it is not her fault, and to appreciate the times they
> spent together.
> 
> Peace.
> 
> ~Bonnie
> 
>  
> 
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:26 AM
> To: felvtalk
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Sadly, Black Tom crossed the rainbow bridge last week
> 
>  
> 
> His feeder is devastated.  I am sure she blames herself for not taking him
> to the vet sooner.  Thanks very much to those of you who offered him
> sanctuary.  I can always depend on this list for help.
> 
> Kelley
> 
> -- 
> 
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> 
> http://www.rescuties.org  
> 
> Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
> 
> http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
> 
> Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties
> 
>  
> 
> Please help Trooper!
> 
>  
> 
> http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper
> 
> 
> 
> "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they
> can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they
> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue."
> 
>  
> 
> - Nathan Winograd
> 
>  
> 


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[Felvtalk] Fletch

[Marcia Baronda]

Hi everyone

Very sad night, fletch got really bad, started crying and having a hard time 
breathing. I called the vet and asked that he be put to sleep. Well, we didn't 
make it, Fletch died on the way there. I feel so bad that he had to suffer like 
that. But he no longer will. He was just a few weeks over a year old. He was 
loved so very much during his short life.

Thanks for all your help
Marcia

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Re: [Felvtalk] reply

[katskat1]

As it appears you really don't want to keep this cat perhaps you can
let us know where you live so we can try and help?

Kat

On 9/7/11, dlg...@windstream.net  wrote:
> I have been mixig felv pos and neg since 2008 and no problems yet.  Everyone
> passed their physical with flying colors this year.  Agai, I think giving
> quality food, love, a stable home and lots of exercise and clean water (I
> use fountains) is the key.  This way, thei immune systems are operating at
> peak and bette able to resist infections.
>
>
>  Gloria Lane  wrote:
>> It's certainly personal  choice, I certainly understand.  Like I say, I've
>> mixed for several years and never had problems. I mix w FIV cats too. FIV
>> cats seem to have some problems with uri and gingivitis, never had one get
>> Felv. I think vets don't have much experience w FIV or Felv cats except
>> for the sick ones that come in and book learning, and the party line is to
>> isolate Felv cats  so i understand. But I still find varying opinions
>> among vets some more flexible than others.
>>
>> Gloria
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:50 PM, dot winkler  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi - I have been reading a lot of people saying that they have been
>> > mixing the cats.  But I called my vet and he again said that it is
>> > risky.  There is still a risk and chance the others could get it.  And
>> > they may not pull out of it like my cat Chloe FELV) did during the first
>> > fever.  I wouldn't want my other cat, Kitty to come down with it.  The
>> > other male cat I have, Lion, has AIDS (FIV).  I think he would be more
>> > susceptible of getting it even though he's been boostered with the
>> > Leukemia booster.
>> > I would like to adopt Chloe out (FELV) also because the trio don't get
>> > along.  They only get along in two's.  In other words, Chloe and Lion
>> > get along.  But when you put Kitty into the mix, they become
>> > territorial.  Vice versa.  Kitty now gets along with Lion since Chloe
>> > has been out of the picture.  I would love to find Chloe a home with one
>> > other feline leukemia cat so she can have a buddy.  I am still trying.
>> > But I'm open to ideas and input.  Dotty
>> >
>> > From: Terri Brown 
>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:22 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT
>> >
>> > Dot,  if your other cats are current on vaccinations and are negative, I
>> > see no reason why you shouldn't mix them.  Like I've said before, I've
>> > mixed mine in the past and never have I had a negative become infected.
>> >
>> > My 2 cents.
>> >
>> > =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6
>> > furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi
>> > =^..^=
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: dot winkler
>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:02 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT
>> >
>> > Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the
>> > disease  Can you believe this.  O.K.  So, what do you know about the
>> > 5 stages?  What does it mean?  I think I heard that if your cat can make
>> > it through all five stages, then they have developed an immunity to the
>> > disease.  Anyway, how is it keeping your cat apart from the others?  My
>> > cat is so lonely.  It breaks my heart.  She wants to play with the
>> > others. Esp the male cat who she knows from the clan where i rescued the
>> > two of them.  I really would love to adopt her out.  Just having a hard
>> > time finding someone.  P.S. - I like the name Spicy!  It is cute.  Dot
>> >
>> > From: April Johnson 
>> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
>> >
>> > Hi Dot,
>> >
>> > This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in
>> > a bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree
>> > and a sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I didn't know
>> > she had it.  I adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the
>> > vet a week later.  The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed
>> > getting the test done because she knew that the shelter I adopted her
>> > from didn't test, I had no idea.  So for a week she was with my other
>> > cats.  I just looked it up there are 6 stages of FELV.  Spicy is in
>> > stage 5.
>> > From: dot winkler 
>> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
>> >
>> > Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year old,
>> > pretty gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have known since
>> > June when she had a fever.  She has stabilized and is doing so well now.
>> >  Very healthy and playful.  She is a little "squirt", i call her.  I
>> > have been looking for a home for her

Re: [Felvtalk] reply

[dlgegg]

I have been mixig felv pos and neg since 2008 and no problems yet.  Everyone 
passed their physical with flying colors this year.  Agai, I think giving 
quality food, love, a stable home and lots of exercise and clean water (I use 
fountains) is the key.  This way, thei immune systems are operating at peak and 
bette able to resist infections.


 Gloria Lane  wrote: 
> It's certainly personal  choice, I certainly understand.  Like I say, I've 
> mixed for several years and never had problems. I mix w FIV cats too. FIV 
> cats seem to have some problems with uri and gingivitis, never had one get 
> Felv. I think vets don't have much experience w FIV or Felv cats except for 
> the sick ones that come in and book learning, and the party line is to 
> isolate Felv cats  so i understand. But I still find varying opinions among 
> vets some more flexible than others.
> 
> Gloria
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:50 PM, dot winkler  wrote:
> 
> > Hi - I have been reading a lot of people saying that they have been mixing 
> > the cats.  But I called my vet and he again said that it is risky.  There 
> > is still a risk and chance the others could get it.  And they may not pull 
> > out of it like my cat Chloe FELV) did during the first fever.  I wouldn't 
> > want my other cat, Kitty to come down with it.  The other male cat I have, 
> > Lion, has AIDS (FIV).  I think he would be more susceptible of getting it 
> > even though he's been boostered with the Leukemia booster.
> > I would like to adopt Chloe out (FELV) also because the trio don't get 
> > along.  They only get along in two's.  In other words, Chloe and Lion get 
> > along.  But when you put Kitty into the mix, they become territorial.  Vice 
> > versa.  Kitty now gets along with Lion since Chloe has been out of the 
> > picture.  I would love to find Chloe a home with one other feline leukemia 
> > cat so she can have a buddy.  I am still trying.  
> > But I'm open to ideas and input.  Dotty
> > 
> > From: Terri Brown 
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT
> > 
> > Dot,  if your other cats are current on vaccinations and are negative, I 
> > see no reason why you shouldn't mix them.  Like I've said before, I've 
> > mixed mine in the past and never have I had a negative become infected.
> >  
> > My 2 cents.
> >  
> > =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
> > furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
> > - Original Message -
> > From: dot winkler
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT
> > 
> > Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the 
> > disease  Can you believe this.  O.K.  So, what do you know about the 5 
> > stages?  What does it mean?  I think I heard that if your cat can make it 
> > through all five stages, then they have developed an immunity to the 
> > disease.  Anyway, how is it keeping your cat apart from the others?  My cat 
> > is so lonely.  It breaks my heart.  She wants to play with the others. Esp 
> > the male cat who she knows from the clan where i rescued the two of them.  
> > I really would love to adopt her out.  Just having a hard time finding 
> > someone.  P.S. - I like the name Spicy!  It is cute.  Dot
> > 
> > From: April Johnson 
> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
> > 
> > Hi Dot,
> >  
> > This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a 
> > bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a 
> > sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I didn't know she had it. 
> >  I adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week 
> > later.  The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the 
> > test done because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, 
> > I had no idea.  So for a week she was with my other cats.  I just looked it 
> > up there are 6 stages of FELV.  Spicy is in stage 5. 
> > From: dot winkler 
> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
> > 
> > Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year old, 
> > pretty gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have known since June 
> > when she had a fever.  She has stabilized and is doing so well now.  Very 
> > healthy and playful.  She is a little "squirt", i call her.  I have been 
> > looking for a home for her since I have two other negative cats and have to 
> > keep them separated.  She is so cute.  i hated to just put her down so 
> > figured i would give it a shot to see if i could adopt her.  Do you have 
> > other c

Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT

[katskat1]

Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives
and negatives with the following caveat:

1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl:  FIV and FeLV
2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a
waiting period before mixing.  I think it is 1 month or so but others
can confirm the correct incubation for the disease.
3.  After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until
the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at
least 6 - 7 months old before mixing.
4.  I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever
they are positive for)

I would suggest you get input on the above from others on this site
who are FAR more knowledgeable then I am but that is what I have been
doing for years now and so far have had NONE of my negatives become
positive for either disease.

kat

On 9/7/11, April Johnson  wrote:
> this is what I found off the internet.  I didn't hear that about making
> threw the 5 phases, because there is a 6 when the disease takes over.  I
> know she's lonely sometimes because she loved being part of the family.  She
> was accepted by all the other cats.  I'm torn between trying to find her
> another cat with FELV or hoping she gets used to being by herself.  Spicy
> actually named herself.  We were driving home from the shelter and I wanted
> to name the other cat we adopted Spicy because she's orange.  Well Spicy
> kept answering to the name.  Now Spicy is black and I never thought of
> naming a black cat Spicy, but she had other ideas.  I like the name Chloe we
> had a cat for 14 years named Chloe, she had to be pts when her kidney's
> shutdown.
>
>  The disease has a wide range of effects. The cat can fight off the
> infection and become totally immune, can become a healthy carrier that never
> gets sick itself but can infect other cats, or a mid-level case in which the
> cat has a compromised immune system.[citation needed] Nevertheless, the
> development of lymphomas is considered the final stage of the disease.
> Although it is thought that virus protein has to be present to induce
> lymphomas in cats, newer evidence shows that a high percentage of
> FeLV-Antigen negative lymphomas contain FeLV-DNA, indicating a "hit-and-run"
> mechanism of virus induced tumor development.[1]
> Once the virus has entered the cat, there are six phases to a FeLV
> infection:
>   * Phase One: The virus enters the cat, usually through the pharynx 
> where it
> infects the epithelial cells and infects the tonsorial B-lymphocytes and
> macrophages. These white blood cells then filter down to the lymph nodes and
> begin to replicate.
>   * Phase Two: The virus enters the blood stream and begins to distribute
> throughout the body.
>   * Phase Three: The lymphoid system (which produces antibodies to attack
> infected and cancerous cells) becomes infected, with further distribution
> throughout the body.
>   * Phase Four: The main point in the infection- where the virus can take
> over the body's immune system and cause viremia. During this phase the
> hemolymphatic system and intestines become infected.
> If the cat's immune system does not fight off the virus, then it goes onto:
>   * Phase Five: The bone marrow becomes infected. At this point, the virus
> will stay with the cat for the rest of its life. In this phase, the virus
> replicates and is released four to seven days later in infected neutrophils
> (white blood cells), and sometimes lymphocytes, monocytes (white blood cell
> formed in the bone marrow), and eosinophils (another white blood cell).
>   * Phase Six: The cat's body is overwhelmed by infection and mucosal and
> glandular epithelial cells (tissue that forms a thin protective layer on
> exposed bodily surfaces and forms the lining of internal cavities, ducts,
> and organs) become infected. The virus replicates in epithelial tissues
> including salivary glands, oropharynx, stomach, esophagus, intestines,
> trachea, nasopharynx, renal tubules, bladder, pancreas, alveolar ducts, and
> sebaceous ducts from the muzzle.
>
> From: dot winkler 
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT
>
>
> Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the disease
>  Can you believe this.  O.K.  So, what do you know about the 5 stages?  What
> does it mean?  I think I heard that if your cat can make it through all five
> stages, then they have developed an immunity to the disease.  Anyway, how is
> it keeping your cat apart from the others?  My cat is so lonely.  It breaks
> my heart.  She wants to play with the others. Esp the male cat who she knows
> from the clan where i rescued the two of them.  I really would love to adopt
> her out.  Just having a hard time finding someone.  P.S. - I like the name
> Spicy!  It is cute.  Dot
>
> From: April Johnson 
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> Sent: Wednesday, S

Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV

[katskat1]

I have mixed neg/pos for years now as long as neg is vaccinated AND
NOT a youngster.  The kittens/young cats are much more susceptible and
I always keep them separate until they are older and are several
months past both initial vaccination and boosters.

Kat

On 9/7/11, Terri Brown  wrote:
> I agree.  I mixed positives and negatives since 2001 and never had a
> problem.  Just as long as your negatives are vaccinated, they should be
> fine.  I see no need to segregate them.
>
> =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6
> furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Gloria B. Lane
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 2:42 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
>
>
>   Same here.  When I first got an FELV cat, I was paranoid. But that was in
> 2001. Many of us don't think it's as contagious as is presented.  I've mixed
> mine with my others for several years, no problem.  All mine are altered and
> sit around and eat and sleep.
>
>
>   Some of what I've learned is1) they may live a long time, may not,
> 2) they're not that contagious,  3) double positives (FIV/FELV) don't live
> as long,4) If they're born with FELV they tend to die at 2.5-3 yrs old,
> 5) interferon and stuff like that are worth a try.  Oh yeah, and always
> questions your vets advice   :)
>
>
>   Gloria
>
>
>
>
>   On Sep 7, 2011, at 1:25 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote:
>
>
>   The virus isn't airborne.
>   it has to get into the bloodstream. I have a couple of FELV
> cats,but they r with my other cats.
>
>   --- On Wed, 9/7/11, April Johnson
> mailto:cupcake292...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>
> From: April Johnson
> mailto:cupcake292...@yahoo.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
> To:
> "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
> mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
> Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 2:16 PM
>
>
> Hi Dot,
>
> This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy
> lives in a bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat
> tree and a sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I didn't know
> she had it.  I adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet
> a week later.  The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting
> the test done because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't
> test, I had no idea.  So for a week she was with my other cats.  I just
> looked it up there are 6 stages of FELV.  Spicy is in stage 5.
>
> From: dot winkler
> mailto:venus7ora...@yahoo.com>>
> To:
> "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
> mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
>
>
> Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one
> year old, pretty gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have known
> since June when she had a fever.  She has stabilized and is doing so well
> now.  Very healthy and playful.  She is a little "squirt", i call her.  I
> have been looking for a home for her since I have two other negative cats
> and have to keep them separated.  She is so cute.  i hated to just put her
> down so figured i would give it a shot to see if i could adopt her.  Do you
> have other cats at home? How is your cat doing now?  You said it's in her
> bone marrow.  Are there different stages?  I am not sure totally about the
> disease as this is the first cat I have ever had in 30 years that has the
> leukemia.  So, it is all new to me also.   Dot (freehold, NJ)
>
>
> From: April Johnson
> mailto:cupcake292...@yahoo.com>>
> To:
> "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
> mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Update
>
>
> Hi,
>
> A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had
> adopted from animal control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV.  I
> was questioning whether to get her a friend or not.  Last week I had her
> blood sent out to confirm if she really had FELV.   Well her results came in
> yesterday, it's in her bone marrow.  I still haven't decided on a friend for
> her yet, I'm unsure what to do with my house already full.  I think I would
> need to adopt another cat with it already in their bone marrow too, right?
> I've never had a FELV+ cat, so I don't know what to do.
>
> April
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hemy has a home

[dlgegg]

It was the same with my Annie.  When her owner who was in hospice learned that 
they had found her a good home, she passed the next day.  She knew her baby was 
safe so she could go.  If I di not have a safe haven for my babies to go to, I 
guess I wuld just have to NOT die.  If I did not know thy would be secure and 
safe, I would not rest in peace.  I think I would be like Annie's owner was.  
If you cannot find her a good home, put her to sleep.  Any port in a storm is 
not a good port, it has to be safe and secure.


 Marcia Baronda  wrote: 
> You're wonderful...
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:31 PM, "Bonnie Hogue"  wrote:
> 
> > Just an update on that little “feral” cat I took from my dear aunt’s house….
> > 
> > After going to Forgotten Felines for spay (already spayed), partial tail 
> > amputation and general health check, “Hemy” lived in a pen on my deck for 
> > nearly a month. I would get my upper body in the pen and we would have a 
> > ‘love fest’ of petting, purring, head-butting and cuddling.  Clearly: not a 
> > feral cat.  So I left the pen door open yesterday.  She sniffed all around 
> > the yard, circled several times, returned to the pen to eat and sleep in 
> > her favorite bed.  I called FF about finding her a home, but I think this 
> > is her home, and I’m her person.  I love this little cat.  I suspect she 
> > has some health issues, but I’m delighted to give her a home and in return 
> > have her friendship.
> > 
> > By the way, my dear aunt passed away on Aug. 24.  I visited her the evening 
> > before and she said then the same thing she said every time I saw her:  
> > “I’m so GLAD you have the cats.”  Then she’d ask about them and I’d tell 
> > her how each one was doing and how wonderful they are.  It was obviously 
> > important to her that her animals were being cared for, and I think the 
> > fact that it was me (‘in the family’ and a known cat lover) helped.   I’m 
> > happy that my taking her cats made her happy and gave her a little peace in 
> > her time of transition.
> > 
> > ~Bonnie
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] reply

[Gloria Lane]

It's certainly personal  choice, I certainly understand.  Like I say, I've 
mixed for several years and never had problems. I mix w FIV cats too. FIV cats 
seem to have some problems with uri and gingivitis, never had one get Felv. I 
think vets don't have much experience w FIV or Felv cats except for the sick 
ones that come in and book learning, and the party line is to isolate Felv cats 
 so i understand. But I still find varying opinions among vets some more 
flexible than others.

Gloria

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On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:50 PM, dot winkler  wrote:

> Hi - I have been reading a lot of people saying that they have been mixing 
> the cats.  But I called my vet and he again said that it is risky.  There is 
> still a risk and chance the others could get it.  And they may not pull out 
> of it like my cat Chloe FELV) did during the first fever.  I wouldn't want my 
> other cat, Kitty to come down with it.  The other male cat I have, Lion, has 
> AIDS (FIV).  I think he would be more susceptible of getting it even though 
> he's been boostered with the Leukemia booster.
> I would like to adopt Chloe out (FELV) also because the trio don't get along. 
>  They only get along in two's.  In other words, Chloe and Lion get along.  
> But when you put Kitty into the mix, they become territorial.  Vice versa.  
> Kitty now gets along with Lion since Chloe has been out of the picture.  I 
> would love to find Chloe a home with one other feline leukemia cat so she can 
> have a buddy.  I am still trying.  
> But I'm open to ideas and input.  Dotty
> 
> From: Terri Brown 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT
> 
> Dot,  if your other cats are current on vaccinations and are negative, I see 
> no reason why you shouldn't mix them.  Like I've said before, I've mixed mine 
> in the past and never have I had a negative become infected.
>  
> My 2 cents.
>  
> =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
> furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
> - Original Message -
> From: dot winkler
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT
> 
> Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the disease  
> Can you believe this.  O.K.  So, what do you know about the 5 stages?  What 
> does it mean?  I think I heard that if your cat can make it through all five 
> stages, then they have developed an immunity to the disease.  Anyway, how is 
> it keeping your cat apart from the others?  My cat is so lonely.  It breaks 
> my heart.  She wants to play with the others. Esp the male cat who she knows 
> from the clan where i rescued the two of them.  I really would love to adopt 
> her out.  Just having a hard time finding someone.  P.S. - I like the name 
> Spicy!  It is cute.  Dot
> 
> From: April Johnson 
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
> 
> Hi Dot,
>  
> This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a 
> bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a 
> sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I didn't know she had it.  
> I adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week later. 
>  The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the test done 
> because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no 
> idea.  So for a week she was with my other cats.  I just looked it up there 
> are 6 stages of FELV.  Spicy is in stage 5. 
> From: dot winkler 
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
> 
> Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year old, pretty 
> gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have known since June when she 
> had a fever.  She has stabilized and is doing so well now.  Very healthy and 
> playful.  She is a little "squirt", i call her.  I have been looking for a 
> home for her since I have two other negative cats and have to keep them 
> separated.  She is so cute.  i hated to just put her down so figured i would 
> give it a shot to see if i could adopt her.  Do you have other cats at home? 
> How is your cat doing now?  You said it's in her bone marrow.  Are there 
> different stages?  I am not sure totally about the disease as this is the 
> first cat I have ever had in 30 years that has the leukemia.  So, it is all 
> new to me also.   Dot (freehold, NJ)
> 
> From: April Johnson 
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Update
> 
> Hi,
>  
> A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from 
> animal control unaware she hadn't b

Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV/response from dotty

[dot winkler]

Hi - I don't remember if I responded to you or not!  I've had so many people to 
talk with.  it's wonderful.  I think i was telling someone else that one of my 
other cats has the AIDS (FIV) so I am a little hesitant to mix the two cats 
together, the FELV one with the FIV.  Because I think he is more prone to 
getting it than a healthy cat.  Dot



From: Gloria B. Lane 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV


Same here.  When I first got an FELV cat, I was paranoid. But that was in 2001. 
Many of us don't think it's as contagious as is presented.  I've mixed mine 
with my others for several years, no problem.  All mine are altered and sit 
around and eat and sleep. 

Some of what I've learned is    1) they may live a long time, may not,   2) 
they're not that contagious,  3) double positives (FIV/FELV) don't live as 
long,    4) If they're born with FELV they tend to die at 2.5-3 yrs old,      
5) interferon and stuff like that are worth a try.  Oh yeah, and always 
questions your vets advice   :)


Gloria



On Sep 7, 2011, at 1:25 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote:

The virus isn't airborne. 
>it has to get into the bloodstream. I have a couple of FELV cats,but they r 
>with my other cats. 
>
>--- On Wed, 9/7/11, April Johnson  wrote:
>
>
>>From: April Johnson 
>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
>>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>>Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 2:16 PM
>>
>>
>>Hi Dot, 
>> 
>>This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a 
>>bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a 
>>sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I didn't know she had it.  
>>I adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week 
>>later.  The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the 
>>test done because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I 
>>had no idea.  So for a week she was with my other cats.  I just looked it up 
>>there are 6 stages of FELV.  Spicy is in stage 5. 
>>
>>From: dot winkler 
>>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
>>
>>
>>Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year old, pretty 
>>gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have known since June when she 
>>had a fever.  She has stabilized and is doing so well now.  Very healthy and 
>>playful.  She is a little "squirt", i call her.  I have been looking for a 
>>home for her since I have two other negative cats and have to keep them 
>>separated.  She is so cute.  i hated to just put her down so figured i would 
>>give it a shot to see if i could adopt her.  Do you have other cats at home? 
>>How is your cat doing now?  You said it's in her bone marrow.  Are there 
>>different stages?  I am not sure totally about the disease as this is the 
>>first cat I have ever had in 30 years that has the leukemia.  So, it is all 
>>new to me also.   Dot (freehold, NJ)
>>
>>
>>From: April Johnson 
>>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM
>>Subject: [Felvtalk] Update
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>> 
>>A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from 
>>animal control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV.  I was 
>>questioning whether to get her a friend or not.  Last week I had her blood 
>>sent out to confirm if she really had FELV.   Well her results came in 
>>yesterday, it's in her bone marrow.  I still haven't decided on a friend for 
>>her yet, I'm unsure what to do with my house already full.  I think I would 
>>need to adopt another cat with it already in their bone marrow too, right?  
>>I've never had a FELV+ cat, so I don't know what to do.
>> 
>>April  
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Re: [Felvtalk] CLOSE THE DOOR

[dlgegg]

Was your furry family safe?  I think I would have questioned the fireman.  Are 
you absolutely sure, beyond a shadow of a doubt.  
I would have said a couple of choice words myself given the situation.


 CATHERINE DIDONNA  wrote: 
> No the door wasn't left open. I have a door then a small foyer,and then 
> another door to come into the house.I had someone helping me with my TV when 
> we smelled the gas. I started to close the windows. I guess he went to close 
> the window on the staircase when I heard the fireman. I yelled.I'm not sure 
> if I cursed. I think I did.I SIAD WHY IS THE F G DOOR OPEN.THAT'S WHEN I 
> HEARD THE FIREMAN. MY FRIEND SHOULD NOT HAVE OPEND THE DOOR WITHOUT CLOSING 
> THEOTHER ONE.HE SAID THE CATS RAN WHEN THEY SAW THE FIREMAN.THAT'SS WHEN THE 
> FIREMAN SAID NO CATS GOT OUT.I DON'T LET TOO MANY PEOLE IN MY HOUSE. I HAVE 
> TO WATCH THE ONES THAT DO COME. COME IN ONE DOOR,CLOSE AND THEN OPEN THE 
> OTHER ONE.NOT THAT HARD RIGHT? BUT IF THEY GET OUT THEY RUN INSIDE,OR I CAN 
> PICK THEM UP.It happened once.Cathy
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/5/11, Natalie  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Natalie 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Biocoat - contains B12 and more
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011, 12:45 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> When and why was your door left open door open?  
> If we had to leave this house, we wouldn’t allow anyone to leave doors open, 
> should they have to work in there!  I threaten workers with a penalty worse 
> than death, should they allow any cat to get out.  If doors were left open 
> around here, believe me, they’d run out spooked….,and I’d have to track them 
> down, some would have to be trapped - it would be a nightmare! 
> Don’t even want to think about that.
> 
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of CATHERINE DIDONNA
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 12:13 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Biocoat - contains B12 and more
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> last week,or the week before,the same day as the earthquake in NY.I had a gas 
> pipe break on my street . The fireman knocked on everyones door:we had to 
> leave our homes.I didn't want to leave my cats. He said I had to get out. He 
> also said no cats got out when the door was open. I left my house,blessed 
> myelf,and askedGod to let me be OK,and let the house be OK:so I could take 
> care of my furry family. I have more than 30 cats.But, anyway, I wish I was 
> in jamies,or a gown. If yousaw the N Y firemen you would understand.SMILE
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/5/11, katskat1  wrote:
> 
> From: katskat1 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Biocoat - contains B12 and more
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011, 1:35 AM
> 
> Biotin?  I take it myself and get it at Walmart.  Same thing?
> 
> 
> On 9/4/11, Natalie  wrote:
> > True - that was my worst worry, that windows might be smashed and cats could
> > get out.. I slept dressed that one night, because I wanted to be ready
> > should anything happen.can you imagine being caught in an emergency in a
> > night gown or jammies?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
> > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 1:39 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Biocoat - contains B12 and more
> >
> >
> >
> > Natalie
> >
> >
> >
> > I am glad you and yours are OK! I'll bet you were extra worried just because
> > of the little lives that are in your hands. I know that when we are in a
> > tornado warning or anything that could affect my animals, that's all I can
> > focus on , is keeping them safe! So glad you are OK(-:
> >
> >
> >
> > Marcia
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Natalie  wrote:
> >
> > I also use, and must reorder some Biotin from Nickers International.  It's a
> > great supplement that contains the right amount of B12, and more, and cats
> > like it mixed into their food.
> > http://www.nickersinternational.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=04016
> >  > ow=ExtInfo> &Sho
> > w=ExtInfo
> >
> >
> > Description/Instructions/Ingredients
> >
> > Nutritional supplement rich in biotin (6 mg per tsp), an essential B vitamin
> > and nutritional enzyme for the synthesis of fatty acids - important building
> > blocks for skin and coat. Biotin helps metabolize carbohydrates and
> > proteins, maximizing the nutritional value of your pet's diet. Pet owners
> > feed biotin for dry skin, constant scratching and dull thinning coat. A
> > safe, economical and effective alternative to prednisone and antihistamines.
> > Makes your pet look and feel the way nature intended! Great tasting and easy
> > to feed. No artificial colors, flavors or preservatives.
> > Feed every day. Sprinkle on food or mix into food. The enclosed 1/4 teaspoon
> > contains 1.5 mg (1500mcg) of bio

Re: [Felvtalk] more about chloe and spicy

[dot winkler]

Hi April - wow.  Good information.  O.K.  So maybe what I heard is incorrect.  
So, you are thinking of getting your cat another one to play with?  But you 
also have other cats without the virus?  I have a small house and keeping the 3 
of them separated is downright crazy!  It is so hectic. My husband and i have 
been stressed all summer since Chloe got the virus in June.  I don't know how 
we'd ever go away - I don't know who could deal with all this.  I need to find 
Chloe a home.  How do you manage keeping them all apart?  Dot



From: April Johnson 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT


this is what I found off the internet.  I didn't hear that about making threw 
the 5 phases, because there is a 6 when the disease takes over.  I know she's 
lonely sometimes because she loved being part of the family.  She was accepted 
by all the other cats.  I'm torn between trying to find her another cat with 
FELV or hoping she gets used to being by herself.  Spicy actually named 
herself.  We were driving home from the shelter and I wanted to name the other 
cat we adopted Spicy because she's orange.  Well Spicy kept answering to the 
name.  Now Spicy is black and I never thought of naming a black cat Spicy, but 
she had other ideas.  I like the name Chloe we had a cat for 14 years named 
Chloe, she had to be pts when her kidney's shutdown.  
 
 The disease has a wide range of effects. The cat can fight off the infection 
and become totally immune, can become a healthy carrier that never gets sick 
itself but can infect other cats, or a mid-level case in which the cat has a 
compromised immune system.[citation needed] Nevertheless, the development of 
lymphomas is considered the final stage of the disease. Although it is thought 
that virus protein has to be present to induce lymphomas in cats, newer 
evidence shows that a high percentage of FeLV-Antigen negative lymphomas 
contain FeLV-DNA, indicating a "hit-and-run" mechanism of virus induced tumor 
development.[1]
Once the virus has entered the cat, there are six phases to a FeLV infection:
* Phase One: The virus enters the cat, usually through the pharynx 
where it infects the epithelial cells and infects the tonsorial B-lymphocytes 
and macrophages. These white blood cells then filter down to the lymph nodes 
and begin to replicate. 
* Phase Two: The virus enters the blood stream and begins to distribute 
throughout the body. 
* Phase Three: The lymphoid system (which produces antibodies to attack 
infected and cancerous cells) becomes infected, with further distribution 
throughout the body. 
* Phase Four: The main point in the infection- where the virus can take 
over the body's immune system and cause viremia. During this phase the 
hemolymphatic system and intestines become infected. 
If the cat's immune system does not fight off the virus, then it goes onto:
* Phase Five: The bone marrow becomes infected. At this point, the 
virus will stay with the cat for the rest of its life. In this phase, the virus 
replicates and is released four to seven days later in infected neutrophils 
(white blood cells), and sometimes lymphocytes, monocytes (white blood cell 
formed in the bone marrow), and eosinophils (another white blood cell). 
* Phase Six: The cat's body is overwhelmed by infection and mucosal and 
glandular epithelial cells (tissue that forms a thin protective layer on 
exposed bodily surfaces and forms the lining of internal cavities, ducts, and 
organs) become infected. The virus replicates in epithelial tissues including 
salivary glands, oropharynx, stomach, esophagus, intestines, trachea, 
nasopharynx, renal tubules, bladder, pancreas, alveolar ducts, and sebaceous 
ducts from the muzzle.  

From: dot winkler 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT


Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the disease  
Can you believe this.  O.K.  So, what do you know about the 5 stages?  What 
does it mean?  I think I heard that if your cat can make it through all five 
stages, then they have developed an immunity to the disease.  Anyway, how is it 
keeping your cat apart from the others?  My cat is so lonely.  It breaks my 
heart.  She wants to play with the others. Esp the male cat who she knows from 
the clan where i rescued the two of them.  I really would love to adopt her 
out.  Just having a hard time finding someone.  P.S. - I like the name Spicy!  
It is cute.  Dot

From: April Johnson 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV


Hi Dot, 
 
This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a 
bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a 
sofa.  Spic

Re: [Felvtalk] reply

[dot winkler]

Hi - I have been reading a lot of people saying that they have been mixing the 
cats.  But I called my vet and he again said that it is risky.  There is still 
a risk and chance the others could get it.  And they may not pull out of it 
like my cat Chloe FELV) did during the first fever.  I wouldn't want my other 
cat, Kitty to come down with it.  The other male cat I have, Lion, has AIDS 
(FIV).  I think he would be more susceptible of getting it even though he's 
been boostered with the Leukemia booster.
I would like to adopt Chloe out (FELV) also because the trio don't get along.  
They only get along in two's.  In other words, Chloe and Lion get along.  But 
when you put Kitty into the mix, they become territorial.  Vice versa.  Kitty 
now gets along with Lion since Chloe has been out of the picture.  I would love 
to find Chloe a home with one other feline leukemia cat so she can have a 
buddy.  I am still trying.  
But I'm open to ideas and input.  Dotty



From: Terri Brown 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT


 
Dot,  if your other cats are current on vaccinations and are negative, 
I see no reason why you shouldn't mix them.  Like I've said before, I've 
mixed mine in the past and never have I had a negative become infected.
 
My 2 cents.
 
=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi 
=^..^=
- Original Message - 
>From: dot  winkler 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:02  PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM  DOT
>
>
>Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the  disease  
>Can you believe this.  O.K.  So, what do you know  about the 5 stages?  What 
>does it mean?  I think I heard that if  your cat can make it through all five 
>stages, then they have developed an  immunity to the disease.  Anyway, how is 
>it keeping your cat apart from  the others?  My cat is so lonely.  It breaks 
>my heart.  She  wants to play with the others. Esp the male cat who she knows 
>from the clan  where i rescued the two of them.  I really would love to adopt 
>her out.   Just having a hard time finding someone.  P.S. - I like the name  
>Spicy!  It is cute.  Dot
>
>
>
>
> From: April Johnson  
>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16  PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]  Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
>
>
>Hi Dot, 
> 
>This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home,  Spicy lives in a 
>bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of,  a cat tree and a 
>sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I  didn't know she had it.  
>I adopted her the first weekend in June and took  her to the vet a week 
>later.  The receptionist at my vets was the one  that stressed getting the 
>test done because she knew that the shelter I  adopted her from didn't test, I 
>had no idea.  So for a week she was with  my other cats.  I just looked it up 
>there are 6 stages of FELV.   Spicy is in stage 5. 
>
>From: dot  winkler 
>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07  PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]  Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
>
>
>Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one  year old, pretty 
>gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have  known since June when she 
>had a fever.  She has stabilized and is doing  so well now.  Very healthy and 
>playful.  She is a little "squirt", i  call her.  I have been looking for a 
>home for her since I have two other  negative cats and have to keep them 
>separated.  She is so cute.  i  hated to just put her down so figured i would 
>give it a shot to see if i could  adopt her.  Do you have other cats at home? 
>How is your cat doing now?   You said it's in her bone marrow.  Are there 
>different stages?   I am not sure totally about the disease as this is the 
>first cat I have  ever had in 30 years that has the leukemia.  So, it is all 
>new to me  also.   Dot (freehold, NJ)
>
>
>From: April Johnson  
>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46  PM
>Subject: [Felvtalk]  Update
>
>
>Hi,
> 
>A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from  
>animal control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV.  I was  
>questioning whether to get her a friend or not.  Last week I had her  blood 
>sent out to confirm if she really had FELV.   Well her results  came in 
>yesterday, it's in her bone marrow.  I still haven't decided  on a friend for 
>her yet, I'm unsure what to do with my house already full.  I think I would 
>need to  adopt another cat with it already in their bone marrow too, right?  
>I've  never had a FELV+ cat, so I don't know what to do.
> 
>April   
>___
>Fe

Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT

[April Johnson]

this is what I found off the internet.  I didn't hear that about making threw 
the 5 phases, because there is a 6 when the disease takes over.  I know she's 
lonely sometimes because she loved being part of the family.  She was accepted 
by all the other cats.  I'm torn between trying to find her another cat with 
FELV or hoping she gets used to being by herself.  Spicy actually named 
herself.  We were driving home from the shelter and I wanted to name the other 
cat we adopted Spicy because she's orange.  Well Spicy kept answering to the 
name.  Now Spicy is black and I never thought of naming a black cat Spicy, but 
she had other ideas.  I like the name Chloe we had a cat for 14 years named 
Chloe, she had to be pts when her kidney's shutdown.  
 
 The disease has a wide range of effects. The cat can fight off the infection 
and become totally immune, can become a healthy carrier that never gets sick 
itself but can infect other cats, or a mid-level case in which the cat has a 
compromised immune system.[citation needed] Nevertheless, the development of 
lymphomas is considered the final stage of the disease. Although it is thought 
that virus protein has to be present to induce lymphomas in cats, newer 
evidence shows that a high percentage of FeLV-Antigen negative lymphomas 
contain FeLV-DNA, indicating a "hit-and-run" mechanism of virus induced tumor 
development.[1]
Once the virus has entered the cat, there are six phases to a FeLV infection:
* Phase One: The virus enters the cat, usually through the pharynx 
where it infects the epithelial cells and infects the tonsorial B-lymphocytes 
and macrophages. These white blood cells then filter down to the lymph nodes 
and begin to replicate. 
* Phase Two: The virus enters the blood stream and begins to distribute 
throughout the body. 
* Phase Three: The lymphoid system (which produces antibodies to attack 
infected and cancerous cells) becomes infected, with further distribution 
throughout the body. 
* Phase Four: The main point in the infection- where the virus can take 
over the body's immune system and cause viremia. During this phase the 
hemolymphatic system and intestines become infected. 
If the cat's immune system does not fight off the virus, then it goes onto:
* Phase Five: The bone marrow becomes infected. At this point, the 
virus will stay with the cat for the rest of its life. In this phase, the virus 
replicates and is released four to seven days later in infected neutrophils 
(white blood cells), and sometimes lymphocytes, monocytes (white blood cell 
formed in the bone marrow), and eosinophils (another white blood cell). 
* Phase Six: The cat's body is overwhelmed by infection and mucosal and 
glandular epithelial cells (tissue that forms a thin protective layer on 
exposed bodily surfaces and forms the lining of internal cavities, ducts, and 
organs) become infected. The virus replicates in epithelial tissues including 
salivary glands, oropharynx, stomach, esophagus, intestines, trachea, 
nasopharynx, renal tubules, bladder, pancreas, alveolar ducts, and sebaceous 
ducts from the muzzle. 

From: dot winkler 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT


Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the disease  
Can you believe this.  O.K.  So, what do you know about the 5 stages?  What 
does it mean?  I think I heard that if your cat can make it through all five 
stages, then they have developed an immunity to the disease.  Anyway, how is it 
keeping your cat apart from the others?  My cat is so lonely.  It breaks my 
heart.  She wants to play with the others. Esp the male cat who she knows from 
the clan where i rescued the two of them.  I really would love to adopt her 
out.  Just having a hard time finding someone.  P.S. - I like the name Spicy!  
It is cute.  Dot

From: April Johnson 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV


Hi Dot, 
 
This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a 
bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a 
sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I didn't know she had it.  I 
adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week later.  
The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the test done 
because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no 
idea.  So for a week she was with my other cats.  I just looked it up there are 
6 stages of FELV.  Spicy is in stage 5. 

From: dot winkler 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV


Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year old, pretty 
gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have kn

Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT

[Terri Brown]

Dot,  if your other cats are current on vaccinations and are negative, I see no 
reason why you shouldn't mix them.  Like I've said before, I've mixed mine in 
the past and never have I had a negative become infected.

My 2 cents.

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
  - Original Message - 
  From: dot winkler 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT


  Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the disease  
Can you believe this.  O.K.  So, what do you know about the 5 stages?  What 
does it mean?  I think I heard that if your cat can make it through all five 
stages, then they have developed an immunity to the disease.  Anyway, how is it 
keeping your cat apart from the others?  My cat is so lonely.  It breaks my 
heart.  She wants to play with the others. Esp the male cat who she knows from 
the clan where i rescued the two of them.  I really would love to adopt her 
out.  Just having a hard time finding someone.  P.S. - I like the name Spicy!  
It is cute.  Dot



--
  From: April Johnson 
  To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV


  Hi Dot, 

  This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a 
bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a sofa. 
 Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I didn't know she had it.  I 
adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week later.  
The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the test done 
because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no 
idea.  So for a week she was with my other cats.  I just looked it up there are 
6 stages of FELV.  Spicy is in stage 5. 

  From: dot winkler 
  To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV


  Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year old, pretty 
gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have known since June when she 
had a fever.  She has stabilized and is doing so well now.  Very healthy and 
playful.  She is a little "squirt", i call her.  I have been looking for a home 
for her since I have two other negative cats and have to keep them separated.  
She is so cute.  i hated to just put her down so figured i would give it a shot 
to see if i could adopt her.  Do you have other cats at home? How is your cat 
doing now?  You said it's in her bone marrow.  Are there different stages?  I 
am not sure totally about the disease as this is the first cat I have ever had 
in 30 years that has the leukemia.  So, it is all new to me also.   Dot 
(freehold, NJ)


  From: April Johnson 
  To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Update


  Hi,

  A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from 
animal control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV.  I was questioning 
whether to get her a friend or not.  Last week I had her blood sent out to 
confirm if she really had FELV.   Well her results came in yesterday, it's in 
her bone marrow.  I still haven't decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure 
what to do with my house already full.  I think I would need to adopt another 
cat with it already in their bone marrow too, right?  I've never had a FELV+ 
cat, so I don't know what to do.

  April  

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Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT

[dot winkler]

Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the disease  
Can you believe this.  O.K.  So, what do you know about the 5 stages?  What 
does it mean?  I think I heard that if your cat can make it through all five 
stages, then they have developed an immunity to the disease.  Anyway, how is it 
keeping your cat apart from the others?  My cat is so lonely.  It breaks my 
heart.  She wants to play with the others. Esp the male cat who she knows from 
the clan where i rescued the two of them.  I really would love to adopt her 
out.  Just having a hard time finding someone.  P.S. - I like the name Spicy!  
It is cute.  Dot



From: April Johnson 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV


Hi Dot, 
 
This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a 
bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a 
sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I didn't know she had it.  I 
adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week later.  
The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the test done 
because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no 
idea.  So for a week she was with my other cats.  I just looked it up there are 
6 stages of FELV.  Spicy is in stage 5. 

From: dot winkler 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV


Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year old, pretty 
gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have known since June when she 
had a fever.  She has stabilized and is doing so well now.  Very healthy and 
playful.  She is a little "squirt", i call her.  I have been looking for a home 
for her since I have two other negative cats and have to keep them separated.  
She is so cute.  i hated to just put her down so figured i would give it a shot 
to see if i could adopt her.  Do you have other cats at home? How is your cat 
doing now?  You said it's in her bone marrow.  Are there different stages?  I 
am not sure totally about the disease as this is the first cat I have ever had 
in 30 years that has the leukemia.  So, it is all new to me also.   Dot 
(freehold, NJ)

From: April Johnson 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update


Hi,
 
A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from animal 
control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV.  I was questioning whether 
to get her a friend or not.  Last week I had her blood sent out to confirm if 
she really had FELV.   Well her results came in yesterday, it's in her bone 
marrow.  I still haven't decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure what to do 
with my house already full.  I think I would need to adopt another cat with it 
already in their bone marrow too, right?  I've never had a FELV+ cat, so I 
don't know what to do.
 
April  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV

[Terri Brown]

I agree.  I mixed positives and negatives since 2001 and never had a problem.  
Just as long as your negatives are vaccinated, they should be fine.  I see no 
need to segregate them.

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gloria B. Lane 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 2:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV


  Same here.  When I first got an FELV cat, I was paranoid. But that was in 
2001. Many of us don't think it's as contagious as is presented.  I've mixed 
mine with my others for several years, no problem.  All mine are altered and 
sit around and eat and sleep.  


  Some of what I've learned is1) they may live a long time, may not,   2) 
they're not that contagious,  3) double positives (FIV/FELV) don't live as 
long,4) If they're born with FELV they tend to die at 2.5-3 yrs old,  
5) interferon and stuff like that are worth a try.  Oh yeah, and always 
questions your vets advice   :)


  Gloria




  On Sep 7, 2011, at 1:25 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote:


  The virus isn't airborne. 
  it has to get into the bloodstream. I have a couple of FELV cats,but 
they r with my other cats. 

  --- On Wed, 9/7/11, April Johnson 
mailto:cupcake292...@yahoo.com>> wrote:


From: April Johnson 
mailto:cupcake292...@yahoo.com>>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
To: 
"felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 2:16 PM


Hi Dot, 

This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy 
lives in a bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree 
and a sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I didn't know she had 
it.  I adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week 
later.  The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the test 
done because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no 
idea.  So for a week she was with my other cats.  I just looked it up there are 
6 stages of FELV.  Spicy is in stage 5. 

From: dot winkler 
mailto:venus7ora...@yahoo.com>>
To: 
"felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV


Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year 
old, pretty gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have known since 
June when she had a fever.  She has stabilized and is doing so well now.  Very 
healthy and playful.  She is a little "squirt", i call her.  I have been 
looking for a home for her since I have two other negative cats and have to 
keep them separated.  She is so cute.  i hated to just put her down so figured 
i would give it a shot to see if i could adopt her.  Do you have other cats at 
home? How is your cat doing now?  You said it's in her bone marrow.  Are there 
different stages?  I am not sure totally about the disease as this is the first 
cat I have ever had in 30 years that has the leukemia.  So, it is all new to me 
also.   Dot (freehold, NJ)


From: April Johnson 
mailto:cupcake292...@yahoo.com>>
To: 
"felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update


Hi,

A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted 
from animal control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV.  I was 
questioning whether to get her a friend or not.  Last week I had her blood sent 
out to confirm if she really had FELV.   Well her results came in yesterday, 
it's in her bone marrow.  I still haven't decided on a friend for her yet, I'm 
unsure what to do with my house already full.  I think I would need to adopt 
another cat with it already in their bone marrow too, right?  I've never had a 
FELV+ cat, so I don't know what to do.

April  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV

[Gloria B. Lane]

Same here.  When I first got an FELV cat, I was paranoid. But that was  
in 2001. Many of us don't think it's as contagious as is presented.   
I've mixed mine with my others for several years, no problem.  All  
mine are altered and sit around and eat and sleep.


Some of what I've learned is1) they may live a long time, may  
not,   2) they're not that contagious,  3) double positives (FIV/FELV)  
don't live as long,4) If they're born with FELV they tend to die  
at 2.5-3 yrs old,  5) interferon and stuff like that are worth a  
try.  Oh yeah, and always questions your vets advice   :)


Gloria


On Sep 7, 2011, at 1:25 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote:


The virus isn't airborne.
it has to get into the bloodstream. I have a couple of FELV cats,but  
they r with my other cats.


--- On Wed, 9/7/11, April Johnson  wrote:

From: April Johnson 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 2:16 PM

Hi Dot,

This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy  
lives in a bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of,  
a cat tree and a sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I  
didn't know she had it.  I adopted her the first weekend in June and  
took her to the vet a week later.  The receptionist at my vets was  
the one that stressed getting the test done because she knew that  
the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no idea.  So for a  
week she was with my other cats.  I just looked it up there are 6  
stages of FELV.  Spicy is in stage 5.

From: dot winkler 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV

Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year  
old, pretty gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have  
known since June when she had a fever.  She has stabilized and is  
doing so well now.  Very healthy and playful.  She is a little  
"squirt", i call her.  I have been looking for a home for her since  
I have two other negative cats and have to keep them separated.  She  
is so cute.  i hated to just put her down so figured i would give it  
a shot to see if i could adopt her.  Do you have other cats at home?  
How is your cat doing now?  You said it's in her bone marrow.  Are  
there different stages?  I am not sure totally about the disease as  
this is the first cat I have ever had in 30 years that has the  
leukemia.  So, it is all new to me also.   Dot (freehold, NJ)


From: April Johnson 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update

Hi,

A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted  
from animal control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV.  I  
was questioning whether to get her a friend or not.  Last week I had  
her blood sent out to confirm if she really had FELV.   Well her  
results came in yesterday, it's in her bone marrow.  I still haven't  
decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure what to do with my house  
already full.  I think I would need to adopt another cat with it  
already in their bone marrow too, right?  I've never had a FELV+  
cat, so I don't know what to do.


April

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Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV

[CATHERINE DIDONNA]

The virus isn't airborne. 
it has to get into the bloodstream. I have a couple of FELV cats,but they r 
with my other cats. 

--- On Wed, 9/7/11, April Johnson  wrote:


From: April Johnson 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 2:16 PM




Hi Dot, 
 
This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a 
bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a 
sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I didn't know she had it.  I 
adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week later.  
The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the test done 
because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no 
idea.  So for a week she was with my other cats.  I just looked it up there are 
6 stages of FELV.  Spicy is in stage 5. 



From: dot winkler 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV




Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year old, pretty 
gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have known since June when she 
had a fever.  She has stabilized and is doing so well now.  Very healthy and 
playful.  She is a little "squirt", i call her.  I have been looking for a home 
for her since I have two other negative cats and have to keep them separated.  
She is so cute.  i hated to just put her down so figured i would give it a shot 
to see if i could adopt her.  Do you have other cats at home? How is your cat 
doing now?  You said it's in her bone marrow.  Are there different stages?  I 
am not sure totally about the disease as this is the first cat I have ever had 
in 30 years that has the leukemia.  So, it is all new to me also.   Dot 
(freehold, NJ)




From: April Johnson 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update




Hi,
 
A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from animal 
control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV.  I was questioning whether 
to get her a friend or not.  Last week I had her blood sent out to confirm if 
she really had FELV.   Well her results came in yesterday, it's in her bone 
marrow.  I still haven't decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure what to do 
with my house already full.  I think I would need to adopt another cat with it 
already in their bone marrow too, right?  I've never had a FELV+ cat, so I 
don't know what to do.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV

[April Johnson]

Hi Dot, 
 
This is all new to me too.  I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a 
bedroom by herself.  She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a 
sofa.  Spicy has had no signs of the illness.  So I didn't know she had it.  I 
adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week later.  
The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the test done 
because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no 
idea.  So for a week she was with my other cats.  I just looked it up there are 
6 stages of FELV.  Spicy is in stage 5. 

From: dot winkler 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV


Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year old, pretty 
gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have known since June when she 
had a fever.  She has stabilized and is doing so well now.  Very healthy and 
playful.  She is a little "squirt", i call her.  I have been looking for a home 
for her since I have two other negative cats and have to keep them separated.  
She is so cute.  i hated to just put her down so figured i would give it a shot 
to see if i could adopt her.  Do you have other cats at home? How is your cat 
doing now?  You said it's in her bone marrow.  Are there different stages?  I 
am not sure totally about the disease as this is the first cat I have ever had 
in 30 years that has the leukemia.  So, it is all new to me also.   Dot 
(freehold, NJ)

From: April Johnson 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update


Hi,

A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from animal 
control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV.  I was questioning whether 
to get her a friend or not.  Last week I had her blood sent out to confirm if 
she really had FELV.   Well her results came in yesterday, it's in her bone 
marrow.  I still haven't decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure what to do 
with my house already full.  I think I would need to adopt another cat with it 
already in their bone marrow too, right?  I've never had a FELV+ cat, so I 
don't know what to do.

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[dot winkler]

Hi April - I just read your mail.  My cat, Chloe, female one year old, pretty 
gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive.  I have known since June when she 
had a fever.  She has stabilized and is doing so well now.  Very healthy and 
playful.  She is a little "squirt", i call her.  I have been looking for a home 
for her since I have two other negative cats and have to keep them separated.  
She is so cute.  i hated to just put her down so figured i would give it a shot 
to see if i could adopt her.  Do you have other cats at home? How is your cat 
doing now?  You said it's in her bone marrow.  Are there different stages?  I 
am not sure totally about the disease as this is the first cat I have ever had 
in 30 years that has the leukemia.  So, it is all new to me also.   Dot 
(freehold, NJ)



From: April Johnson 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Update


Hi,
 
A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from animal 
control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV.  I was questioning whether 
to get her a friend or not.  Last week I had her blood sent out to confirm if 
she really had FELV.   Well her results came in yesterday, it's in her bone 
marrow.  I still haven't decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure what to do 
with my house already full.  I think I would need to adopt another cat with it 
already in their bone marrow too, right?  I've never had a FELV+ cat, so I 
don't know what to do.
 
April  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

[Tad Burnett]

Joel because this product, the cocktail, is going to be patented (I am 
assuming) the dental vet will not disclose exactly what is in it but 
gives generic information. It is supposed to have vitamins, a low dose 
antibiotic, a probiotic, an acid reducer like a prilosec or something 
similar, and an immune modulator and not sure what else. I will give you 
the name and number of the place. The medication is given by 1cc daily 
by mouth and contains no steroids. Daphne has been off of steroids and 
his last dose was Depomedrol 20mg on 7/11/11. He was diagnosed with 
diabetes due to the steroids but has since returned to normal. This 
cocktail is ok for diabetic kitties too.


The dental veterenary (sp) clinic is located at 12600 Coit Road in 
Dallas, Texas 75251 with a telephone number of 972-385-8400. How we came 
about this my vet called someone about using or trying naltrexone by 
mouth for the stomatitis. They recommended trying the cocktail which was 
made up by a doctoral student. The cost of the medication is around 
$50/month but the labs that must be monitored is what gets kind of 
expensive. Need original labs with C
BC etc and for me was about $85 or so. Then after treatment begins labs 
are checked at 2 weeks, 4 weeks, 8 weeks, then a few months etc. FIV 
kitties get a lower dose. As far as I know it is just called the Dental 
Veterinarian clinic.


Ok I just found what the stuff is called right now. It is called LPS 
JS-827 Syrup and it states services were by Deb Schaffer.


Hope this can help someone!!











On 9/7/2011 1:37 PM, Tad Burnett wrote:

[Attachment(s) from Ben Lehrer included below]

I've got an FIV+ cat (Pasha) on the cocktail and can answer this.

The stomatitis cocktail was developed by the late Dr. Bob Wiggs at his 
clinic (Dallas Animal Dental) in Dallas.  The actual mix of 
ingredients is proprietary so nobody other than its makers actually 
know its components and their proportions, but it is basically a 
holistic mix of non-steroidal, non-controlled substances.  I first 
heard about it from a Yahoo Group dedicated to feline stomatitis 
(http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Stomatitis/) where a number 
of people have reported positive results from its use.  I am attaching 
a fact sheet about the cocktail, which was created by one the members 
of that Yahoo Group.


Dr. Wiggs passed away last year and my understanding is that while his 
estate is sorted out, the cocktail's availability will be somewhat 
limited as the rights to the proprietary mix haven't been completely 
settled.  I think that it was his wish to see the cocktail made more 
readily available to help cats suffering from stomatitis and so 
presumably it will eventually be easier to obtain and perhaps might 
even be produced locally rather than centrally in Dallas.  Time will 
tell on that one.


I was informed that the formulation for FIV+ cats is slightly 
different than for FIV-negative cats.


Pasha, an 8-year old lifelong FIV+ cat with caudal stomatitis and 
tongue ulcers so horrendously bad that his vet looks at me knowingly 
while fingering the bottle of euthasol every time I bring him in, has 
been on it for about six weeks.  I've been taking pictures of his 
mouth to monitor the progress.  I can't really say it's had any 
positive impact, unfortunately.  Initially, it seemed like it was 
helping - after about 2 weeks the inflammation had been reduced and 
his tongue looked better.  But at 3 weeks both came back with a 
vengeance and he looks awful.  His appetite has been a little better 
nonetheless, but he's not gained any weight.  His most recent labs 
also weren't all that encouraging. I'm going to keep at it since I've 
exhausted pretty much all of the other treatment options.  This 
doesn't mean it doesn't work; it just means that it doesn't work on 
100% of cats.  Other people with FIV+ cats on the Stomatitis group 
have made favorable reports.


The cocktail costs around $45/month, and the clinic does require that 
bloodwork be periodically reported so there are other ongoing costs 
you could expect to incur as well.


When I get around to it, I'll upload some pictures to show what I'm 
talking about.


- Ben

From: joel kehler 
To: fiv-healthscie...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [fiv-healthscience] Two updates: Daphne and Scrappy
I would be interested to know of what the "stomatitis cocktail" 
consists, if /when you know.


Attachment(s) from Ben Lehrer

1 of 1 File(s)
Information on the Stomatitis Cocktail.pdf

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On 9/7/2011 11:02 AM, Marcia wrote:
Now Fletch has thick gooey looking saliva. He can't eat because his 
mouth now hurts. His fever is gone though. WhT to do. Calling vet 
today. Is there any treatment for this mouth issue?

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Maureen Olvey > wrote:


You can give baby aspirin like every other day or 72 hours or 
something like

Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

[Tad Burnett]

[Attachment(s) from Ben Lehrer included below]

I've got an FIV+ cat (Pasha) on the cocktail and can answer this.

The stomatitis cocktail was developed by the late Dr. Bob Wiggs at his 
clinic (Dallas Animal Dental) in Dallas.  The actual mix of ingredients 
is proprietary so nobody other than its makers actually know its 
components and their proportions, but it is basically a holistic mix of 
non-steroidal, non-controlled substances.  I first heard about it from a 
Yahoo Group dedicated to feline stomatitis 
(http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Stomatitis/) where a number 
of people have reported positive results from its use.  I am attaching a 
fact sheet about the cocktail, which was created by one the members of 
that Yahoo Group.


Dr. Wiggs passed away last year and my understanding is that while his 
estate is sorted out, the cocktail's availability will be somewhat 
limited as the rights to the proprietary mix haven't been completely 
settled.  I think that it was his wish to see the cocktail made more 
readily available to help cats suffering from stomatitis and so 
presumably it will eventually be easier to obtain and perhaps might even 
be produced locally rather than centrally in Dallas.  Time will tell on 
that one.


I was informed that the formulation for FIV+ cats is slightly different 
than for FIV-negative cats.


Pasha, an 8-year old lifelong FIV+ cat with caudal stomatitis and tongue 
ulcers so horrendously bad that his vet looks at me knowingly while 
fingering the bottle of euthasol every time I bring him in, has been on 
it for about six weeks.  I've been taking pictures of his mouth to 
monitor the progress.  I can't really say it's had any positive impact, 
unfortunately.  Initially, it seemed like it was helping - after about 2 
weeks the inflammation had been reduced and his tongue looked better.  
But at 3 weeks both came back with a vengeance and he looks awful.  His 
appetite has been a little better nonetheless, but he's not gained any 
weight.  His most recent labs also weren't all that encouraging. I'm 
going to keep at it since I've exhausted pretty much all of the other 
treatment options.  This doesn't mean it doesn't work; it just means 
that it doesn't work on 100% of cats.  Other people with FIV+ cats on 
the Stomatitis group have made favorable reports.


The cocktail costs around $45/month, and the clinic does require that 
bloodwork be periodically reported so there are other ongoing costs you 
could expect to incur as well.


When I get around to it, I'll upload some pictures to show what I'm 
talking about.


- Ben

From: joel kehler 
To: fiv-healthscie...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [fiv-healthscience] Two updates: Daphne and Scrappy
I would be interested to know of what the "stomatitis cocktail" 
consists, if /when you know.


Attachment(s) from Ben Lehrer

1 of 1 File(s)
Information on the Stomatitis Cocktail.pdf

__._,_.___













On 9/7/2011 11:02 AM, Marcia wrote:
Now Fletch has thick gooey looking saliva. He can't eat because his 
mouth now hurts. His fever is gone though. WhT to do. Calling vet 
today. Is there any treatment for this mouth issue?

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Maureen Olvey > wrote:


You can give baby aspirin like every other day or 72 hours or 
something like that for just a few days though.


/"I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results 
that are profitable to the human race or doesn'tthe pain which it 
inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without 
looking further." -- Mark Twain/



Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:44:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

Same here!

*From:*felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Edna Taylor

*Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:59 AM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

It has always been my understanding that you should never give asprin 
to cats:



*Aspirin Side Effects*

Aspirin is not a medication that is typically administered to cats. 
If administered, it may cause a few side effects such as:


  * Stomach acidity, which can lead to stomach ulcers
  * Upset stomach

  * Vomiting
  * Diarrhea
  * Blood coagulation delays
  * Lack of appetite




Read more: Can You Give a Cat Aspirin? - VetInfo 



> From: marciabmar..

Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

[Marcia Baronda]

Hi
Fletch had fluids last Friday. I just spoke with my vet and she is going to
order the LTCI. They are telling her 1 shot every 2 weeks. right now he
doesnt want anything put into his mouth. It's really hard and realy hard to
wee him this way. I am so discouraged right now.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Natalie  wrote:

>  I think Fletch would do well to get some sub-q fluids, I believe his
> saliva would thin down…can you feed him lots of water with an eyedropper on
> the side of the mouth?  Hydration is also good for fevers. 
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcia
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:02 AM
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch
>
>   ** **
>
> Now Fletch has thick gooey looking saliva. He can't eat because his mouth
> now hurts. His fever is gone though. WhT to do. Calling vet today. Is there
> any treatment for this mouth issue?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 6, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Maureen Olvey  wrote:*
> ***
>
>  You can give baby aspirin like every other day or 72 hours or something
> like that for just a few days though.
>
> *“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that
> are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark
> Twain*
>  --
>
> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:44:05 -0400
> From: at...@optonline.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch
>
> Same here!  
>
>  
>
> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Edna Taylor
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:59 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch
>
>  
>
> It has always been my understanding that you should never give asprin to
> cats:
>  
> *Aspirin Side Effects*
>
> Aspirin is not a medication that is typically administered to cats. If
> administered, it may cause a few side effects such as: 
>
>- Stomach acidity, which can lead to stomach ulcers
>- Upset stomach
>
>- Vomiting
>- Diarrhea
>- Blood coagulation delays
>- Lack of appetite
>
>
>
>
> Read more: Can You Give a Cat Aspirin? - 
> VetInfo
>   
>
> > From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:40:49 -0500
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Fletch
> >
> > Update and more questions. Yesterday Fletch ate very well and ate quite a
> few treats too. He got up and walked around the kitchen for quite awhile. I
> was so hopeful that maybe he was over the hump. Wrong. This morning he
> refused to eat or drink and hasn't done so all day. I hav given him some
> electrolytes 3 times today. He didn't like that a bit. He had very watery
> poop with hard chunks in it. That happened twice. Once on the couch, which I
> have plastic on under his blankets, and then another time I ran him to the
> litterbox. His fever is back..I'm sure the aspirin wore off and he doesn't
> feel good at all. Is this how this disease is all the time? Is this what his
> life is gonna be like from now on? Because if it is, I can't see making him
> go through this. I don't think he enjoys any part of this. Maybe he ate too
> much yesterday, I don't know. Do they go thru this and then get better. Any
> insight will be appreciated. Where does the fever come from?
> > Thanks guys, I sure do appreciate each and every one of you.
> >
> > Marcia
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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*Marcia Baronda*
*Baronda Supplies & Service, Inc.*
*1550 S 2700 Rd.*
*Herington, Kansas 67449*
*Phone: 785-466-2501*
*Cell:785-230-6499*
**
**" *I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a
veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful be

Re: [Felvtalk] Update

[ccarlsberg]

I have the same problem
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[Felvtalk] Update

[April Johnson]

Hi,
 
A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from animal 
control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV.  I was questioning whether 
to get her a friend or not.  Last week I had her blood sent out to confirm if 
she really had FELV.   Well her results came in yesterday, it's in her bone 
marrow.  I still haven't decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure what to do 
with my house already full.  I think I would need to adopt another cat with it 
already in their bone marrow too, right?  I've never had a FELV+ cat, so I 
don't know what to do.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

[Natalie]

I think Fletch would do well to get some sub-q fluids, I believe his saliva 
would thin down…can you feed him lots of water with an eyedropper on the side 
of the mouth?  Hydration is also good for fevers. 

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:02 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

 

Now Fletch has thick gooey looking saliva. He can't eat because his mouth now 
hurts. His fever is gone though. WhT to do. Calling vet today. Is there any 
treatment for this mouth issue?

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 6, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Maureen Olvey  wrote:

You can give baby aspirin like every other day or 72 hours or something like 
that for just a few days though.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

  _  

Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:44:05 -0400
From: at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

Same here!  

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

 

It has always been my understanding that you should never give asprin to cats:
 


Aspirin Side Effects


Aspirin is not a medication that is typically administered to cats. If 
administered, it may cause a few side effects such as: 

*   Stomach acidity, which can lead to stomach ulcers
*   Upset stomach 
 
*   Vomiting
*   Diarrhea
*   Blood coagulation delays
*   Lack of appetite  



Read more:  
 Can You 
Give a Cat Aspirin? - VetInfo  

> From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:40:49 -0500
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Fletch
> 
> Update and more questions. Yesterday Fletch ate very well and ate quite a few 
> treats too. He got up and walked around the kitchen for quite awhile. I was 
> so hopeful that maybe he was over the hump. Wrong. This morning he refused to 
> eat or drink and hasn't done so all day. I hav given him some electrolytes 3 
> times today. He didn't like that a bit. He had very watery poop with hard 
> chunks in it. That happened twice. Once on the couch, which I have plastic on 
> under his blankets, and then another time I ran him to the litterbox. His 
> fever is back..I'm sure the aspirin wore off and he doesn't feel good at all. 
> Is this how this disease is all the time? Is this what his life is gonna be 
> like from now on? Because if it is, I can't see making him go through this. I 
> don't think he enjoys any part of this. Maybe he ate too much yesterday, I 
> don't know. Do they go thru this and then get better. Any insight will be 
> appreciated. Where does the fever come from?
> Thanks guys, I sure do appreciate each and every one of you.
> 
> Marcia
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

[Marcia]

Now Fletch has thick gooey looking saliva. He can't eat because his mouth now 
hurts. His fever is gone though. WhT to do. Calling vet today. Is there any 
treatment for this mouth issue?
Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Maureen Olvey  wrote:

> You can give baby aspirin like every other day or 72 hours or something like 
> that for just a few days though.
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
> 
> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:44:05 -0400
> From: at...@optonline.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch
> 
> Same here! 
> 
>  
> 
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:59 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch
> 
>  
> 
> It has always been my understanding that you should never give asprin to cats:
>  
> 
> Aspirin Side Effects
> 
> Aspirin is not a medication that is typically administered to cats. If 
> administered, it may cause a few side effects such as:
> 
> Stomach acidity, which can lead to stomach ulcers
> Upset stomach
> Vomiting
> Diarrhea
> Blood coagulation delays
> Lack of appetite
> 
> 
> Read more: Can You Give a Cat Aspirin? - VetInfo  
> 
> > From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:40:49 -0500
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Fletch
> > 
> > Update and more questions. Yesterday Fletch ate very well and ate quite a 
> > few treats too. He got up and walked around the kitchen for quite awhile. I 
> > was so hopeful that maybe he was over the hump. Wrong. This morning he 
> > refused to eat or drink and hasn't done so all day. I hav given him some 
> > electrolytes 3 times today. He didn't like that a bit. He had very watery 
> > poop with hard chunks in it. That happened twice. Once on the couch, which 
> > I have plastic on under his blankets, and then another time I ran him to 
> > the litterbox. His fever is back..I'm sure the aspirin wore off and he 
> > doesn't feel good at all. Is this how this disease is all the time? Is this 
> > what his life is gonna be like from now on? Because if it is, I can't see 
> > making him go through this. I don't think he enjoys any part of this. Maybe 
> > he ate too much yesterday, I don't know. Do they go thru this and then get 
> > better. Any insight will be appreciated. Where does the fever come from?
> > Thanks guys, I sure do appreciate each and every one of you.
> > 
> > Marcia
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
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> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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