Issue setting SSID

2006-05-11 Thread Adrian Pavone

Hey,

I've got an RTL8180 that I have compiled a module for using ndisgen. The
first time I installed FreeBSD, this worked fine, with exactly the same
version of the driver, and I was able to use it, however, the computer
power ran out during a portupgrade, rendering /usr unuseable. Now that I
have reinstalled FreeBSD from scratch (wiping the partition and
reinstalling from the same FreeBSD6.0-RELEASE cds), I have recompiled
the module using ndisgen again, and kldload rtl8180_sys loads the module
(with ndis and if_ndis loaded), without any errors output. An ifconfig
shows ndis0, including the correct MAC Address.

Now, when I try to set the ssid with ifconfig ndis0 ssid wingot (the
name of my home network), and then run another ifconfig, ndis0 still has
an SSID of only . I have also reinstalled the system another time
since, and the same issue is occuring.

If anyone knows of a non-ndis version of this driver already available
for FreeBSD (I know NetBSD has one), can they please point me in the
correct direction, but otherwise, does anyone have any idea why the
wireless device will not accept an SSID with ifconfig? No output is
returned at any stage indicating any issues, and I have looked in
/var/log and cannot find any problems logged.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Adrian

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Issue setting SSID

2006-05-11 Thread Adrian Pavone

Hey,

I've got an RTL8180 that I have compiled a module for using ndisgen. The 
first time I installed FreeBSD, this worked fine, with exactly the same 
version of the driver, and I was able to use it, however, the computer 
power ran out during a portupgrade, rendering /usr unuseable. Now that I 
have reinstalled FreeBSD from scratch (wiping the partition and 
reinstalling from the same FreeBSD6.0-RELEASE cds), I have recompiled 
the module using ndisgen again, and kldload rtl8180_sys loads the module 
(with ndis and if_ndis loaded), without any errors output. An ifconfig 
shows ndis0, including the correct MAC Address.


Now, when I try to set the ssid with ifconfig ndis0 ssid wingot (the 
name of my home network), and then run another ifconfig, ndis0 still has 
an SSID of only . I have also reinstalled the system another time 
since, and the same issue is occuring.


If anyone knows of a non-ndis version of this driver already available 
for FreeBSD (I know NetBSD has one), can they please point me in the 
correct direction, but otherwise, does anyone have any idea why the 
wireless device will not accept an SSID with ifconfig? No output is 
returned at any stage indicating any issues, and I have looked in 
/var/log and cannot find any problems logged.


Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Adrian
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Issue setting SSID

2006-05-12 Thread Adrian Pavone
I'm not sure on the etiquette of reposting, however, this post is now 23 
pages down my screen, so I doubt anyone would see the original. This 
possibly means no-one knows, but if that is the case, would anyone be 
able to point me in the right direction for people that possibly do?




Hey,

I've got an RTL8180 that I have compiled a module for using ndisgen. The
first time I installed FreeBSD, this worked fine, with exactly the same
version of the driver, and I was able to use it, however, the computer
power ran out during a portupgrade, rendering /usr unuseable. Now that I
have reinstalled FreeBSD from scratch (wiping the partition and
reinstalling from the same FreeBSD6.0-RELEASE cds), I have recompiled
the module using ndisgen again, and kldload rtl8180_sys loads the module
(with ndis and if_ndis loaded), without any errors output. An ifconfig
shows ndis0, including the correct MAC Address.

Now, when I try to set the ssid with ifconfig ndis0 ssid wingot (the
name of my home network), and then run another ifconfig, ndis0 still has
an SSID of only . I have also reinstalled the system another time
since, and the same issue is occuring.

If anyone knows of a non-ndis version of this driver already available
for FreeBSD (I know NetBSD has one), can they please point me in the
correct direction, but otherwise, does anyone have any idea why the
wireless device will not accept an SSID with ifconfig? No output is
returned at any stage indicating any issues, and I have looked in
/var/log and cannot find any problems logged.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Adrian
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Re: I keep having wrong checksum in 6.1 iso download (what should I do??)

2006-05-13 Thread Adrian Pavone

Nick Withers wrote:


On Fri, 12 May 2006 21:51:02 -0700 (PDT)
Mark Jayson Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


Hi,

It was my second time to download a 6.1 iso from one
of the regional ftp sites.. Lucky we have a slightly
fast connection (155Mbps)...
   



Slightly fast? What do you call fast? :-)

 


By the way, is it really dangerous to ignore these checksums
that doesn't match with the published one? What's the reason
behind this bad checksum mismatch??.
   



It generally indicates that the file was corrupted during
transmission. It could, however, happen because the site you're
downloading from is serving a corrupt version.

A checksum mismatch basically indicates that the file is not as
it should be. You may still be able to use it without any
adverse impact, but then again, you may not. It's also possible
that someone has intentionally corrupted the file for sinister
purposes.

I'd strongly recommend not using it. It's probably worth trying
to download the file again, from another mirror.

 


Thanks
   



 

From what I read about the checksums for 6.1, the checksum was 
generated with a checksum actually being present in the ISO (which was 
then overwritten by the newly developed checksum). As such, the checksum 
will never match, as a checksum can never match if it is included in the 
file that is being checksummed (well, in theory, it is possible for it 
to match, but the algorithm to calculate it and processing power 
required is astronomically complex).


It is possible I am thinking of a different FreeBSD ISO, but I am sure 
it was one of the 6's, and there are only 2 of those.


Regards,
Adrian
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Re: Putting FreeBSD to sleep?

2006-05-13 Thread Adrian Pavone

Graham Bentley wrote:

Can anyone post some good pointers for setting
up ACPI or APM so that I get automatic susepend
afer x mins of inactivity and woken up on LAN
request ?

(in particular shut down disc / slow or shut
down psu fan - its the noise I am concerned
about)

I have looked at posts on rc.suspend/resume
for various power saving issues on laptops
but cant find and good resources on how to
do the above. Surely this must have been
done before by someone with a remote server
in a secret location :)

Thanks in advance for any advice :)

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Wake on LAN is a feature that you will have to enable in your BIOS, if
it is available. It could not be affected by ACPI/APM (or any other
Operating System feature) once the computer is no longer powered up. In
regards to what you need to suspend after x mins, I am unsure.

Regards,
Adrian

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Re: Console image viewer

2006-05-13 Thread Adrian Pavone

Steve P. wrote:


Anyone know of a decent jpg viewer for the console?

I don't want to install X.

Thanks.

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zgv or aview would probably do the job, altough I have never used 
either. Top two links at 
http://www.google.com.au/search?client=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_shl=enq=FreeBSD+jpg+viewer+consolemeta=btnG=Google+Search


Of the two, from the description, zgv sounds like a better one (aview is 
ascii). I'm sure there are more on the list at 
http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Graphics/Viewers/ but those are the 
two that caught my attention.


Regards,
Adrian
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Re: Putting FreeBSD to sleep?

2006-05-13 Thread Adrian Pavone

Adrian Pavone wrote:


Graham Bentley wrote:

Can anyone post some good pointers for setting
up ACPI or APM so that I get automatic susepend
afer x mins of inactivity and woken up on LAN
request ?

(in particular shut down disc / slow or shut
down psu fan - its the noise I am concerned
about)

I have looked at posts on rc.suspend/resume
for various power saving issues on laptops
but cant find and good resources on how to
do the above. Surely this must have been
done before by someone with a remote server
in a secret location :)

Thanks in advance for any advice :)

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Wake on LAN is a feature that you will have to enable in your BIOS, if
it is available. It could not be affected by ACPI/APM (or any other
Operating System feature) once the computer is no longer powered up. In
regards to what you need to suspend after x mins, I am unsure.

Regards,
Adrian

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From http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/errata.html

(2005/11/5) Distribution of 6.0-RELEASE contains CHECKSUM.MD5 and 
CHECKSUM.SHA256 files for protecting the integrity of data. However, 
these files in 6.0-RELEASE erroneously include checksums for the 
checksum files themselves. Although the checksums look like wrong, they 
can be safely ignored because a checksum for the checksum file never 
corresponds to one in the file. This problem will be fixed in the next 
releases.


Well, looks like it was 6.0 that I was referring to, however, if you 
have had the same issue with 6.1 from 2 different locations (unless your 
connection and TCP/IP protocol is dodgy), I would think that maybe they 
did not resolve this issue.


Regards,
Adrian
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Re: Help: Unable to change to SU through SSH

2006-05-13 Thread Adrian Pavone

Maan Jee wrote:


Hi

I have created a user admin and using that to login through SSH from a
remote machine. But I CANNOT su, change to the root login? How can I do
that?

To Install a Web Server, which distribution I should install, User or 
other?


thanks

vj
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The user admin is a member of the group wheel is he?
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Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-13 Thread Adrian Pavone



The community doesen't want the new logo and the majority of the
community
prefers Beastie over the sex-toy.


Not that I want to upset anything, but I thought Beastie was the logo. 
Where might a see a copy of the sex-toy? Is it that ugly sphere with 
the 2 cones for ears?

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Re: Has the port collection become to large to handle.

2006-05-15 Thread Adrian Pavone

Spadge wrote:


fbsd wrote:


fbsd wrote:





*  so working with in that same procedure the  maintainer
passes the packages to the audit people and they pass it on.
No problem with this at all.



Thus removing any kind of streamlining to speed up releases of new 
versions?




 the port make method will still be there for all ports with
limited usage history, it will just not have a package for it
because
it has limited usage.



And this is the crux of the matter. Would phpmyadmin have a 
php5/mysql4 version? Or do the majority of users use php4 still? And 
are there more test boxes than there are production servers?


Is it fair to say the most commonly used ports are not the most 
commonly used packages? I would imagine that something like KDE would 
be a hugely popular package, on account of the sheer size of the 
beast, but that it wouldn't be the most popular port due to the number 
of people who don't run a GUI on their system.


There is also the fact that you could fairly easily abuse this system 
if you wanted your software to be included in the 'most commonly used' 
list, by just hammering the server.




 There is no privacy issues. Passing cookies is normal and
done as matter of fact by most commercial websites and any website
that
uses php session control makes cookies by default.
This is a no-issue issue.



Every browser on the planet has the option to disable cookies (in the 
same way that email clients have the option of indenting quoted text - 
it's a standard required feature). This is because it is a privacy 
issue. Different people have different views on what privacy is or 
isn't, and that's nine tenths of the entire point: we don't get to 
decide what their privacy levels are, they do.


I can totally understand why you think this system would be better for 
you. I just hope you can understand why it wouldn't be better for 
everyone, nor even for the majority of people.


Now, Marc G. Fournier's dynamic personalised ports tree suggestion ... 
that's a *real* idea.



Agreed in full.

Cookies and similar are, in my opinion, invasive, and this is why I have 
my browser set to ask me each time, and get rid of anf I accept when I 
close the browser. But other people love the benefits of cookies. Choice 
is the only real power.


And, Marc G. Fournier definitely had something with his description of 
how the port system should work, when I read his post I was thinking 
that is exactly how I would have designed it as well (admittedly, when 
it was designed, it wasn't the size it is now).


Regards,
Adrian
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Re: Has the port collection become to large to handle.

2006-05-15 Thread Adrian Pavone

Steven Hartland wrote:


Chris wrote:


On 15/05/06, fbsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keep the ports tree how it is, as others have said the size is small
on modern hard drives and bandwidth trivial, once the initial ports
tree is in place keeping it up to date needs very little bandwidth and
its only distfiles that tend to be large, but you only download
distfiles for ports you install so this is a very good system.  If at
least one person uses a port it is justified and I very much like that
most tiny apps I search for in the ports tree do indeed exist.  How
would you define commonly used ports? we would end up with a
favouritism system in place and many arguments about which ports would
be included in the commonly used group, you also forget that many
ports that may look meaningless from where you sit are necessary as
dependants to other ports.



There would be not arguments as stats dont lie. Please read the entire
thread there are some good ideas in there which would speed up day to day
use of ports for everyone. Where you get the idea that ports is quick to
maintain is beyond me it takes a good 30mins to sync up if your a few
months out of date now a days. 30mins is not much if you have 1 machine
but add it all up for a large number of machines and its a significant
amount of time which we all could better spend doing other things instead
of waiting for a cvsup to complete.


This is why there are options in place that would allow you to download
the cvsup to one of you computers, likely a server of some sort, and
your other computers all retrieve the CVSup from this local server,
significantly speeding up the retrieval time and decreasing the load on
the primary servers, a win for everyone. If you have computers of
varying architectures or in seperated geographical locations this would
not work as worded, but from your wording it sounded like you had a
local LAN of computers.

Ohh, and for your informations, statistics do lie, that is the point of
statistical analysis, which I spent 1 1/2 years of my life studying
before changing into my current Software Engineering/Computer Security
degree.

And, the arguements would arise from the common ports/packages
directory, a suggestion of fbsd's I believe, whereby common ports that
would not be built often primarily due to their size, and so wouldn't
show up in statistics (such as Gnome, KDE, OpenOffice, and a number of
others), would be placed into a common directory of the ports/packages
tree, and would be exempt from these statistics. The arguements would
arise over what should be placed into this common directory.

And what about the case of a port that would be built many times over
its lifetime, mainly due to program version changes? The first one that
springs to mind would be Firefox. Firefox has had a number of version
changes in the same space of time that Exim, a very commonly used mail
server application, has been updated, and assuming an even distribution
of mail servers and desktop users with firefox, firefox would appear to
be 10-20 times more active over it's lifetime.

It is also common for people with a desktop computer to format their HDD
every 3 months or so, and every time this occured, the desktop PC ports
(Xorg, Firefox, KDE/XFCE/GNOME, OpenOffice.org, etc.) would get a
rebuild/redownload, again throwing the stastics out of whack.

Just my $0.02.

Regards,
Adrian

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Re: asda

2006-05-15 Thread Adrian Pavone

Ben Haysom wrote:


read the attached



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I see no attached, and more importantly, there are only certain 
documents which you can attach.


As it is something you want us to read, it is much more appropriate to 
paste it into an email document

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Re: strange on 'man' command...

2006-05-15 Thread Adrian Pavone

Tang Ho Yim wrote:


Hi everyone,
  
 I am running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p7. When I type man xxx command..it will show the manual twiceis it strange ?

 I remember that it will show only once before
  
 So anyone can help ? Thanks !



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Could you be a little more specific about it will show the manual 
twice'? Does it show the manual once and once you close that it shows it 
again? Or does it split it horizontally/vertically on your screen? Or 
does it run, one after the other, so that you have the See also and 
similar right before a new manual page at the bottom? Or something else 
that I have not described?


Regards,
Adrian
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Re: Has the port collection become to large to handle.

2006-05-15 Thread Adrian Pavone



And what about the case of a port that would be built many times over
its lifetime, mainly due to program version changes? The first one
that springs to mind would be Firefox. Firefox has had a number of
version changes in the same space of time that Exim, a very commonly
used mail server application, has been updated, and assuming an even
distribution of mail servers and desktop users with firefox, firefox
would appear to be 10-20 times more active over it's lifetime.



And your point being?


It is also common for people with a desktop computer to format their
HDD every 3 months or so, and every time this occured, the desktop PC
ports (Xorg, Firefox, KDE/XFCE/GNOME, OpenOffice.org, etc.) would get
a rebuild/redownload, again throwing the stastics out of whack.



No its still being used isnt it which is what we are interested in.



I'm sorry, but when I read the continual posts on this topic, all stated 
that the count would occur while installing, not in usage. If the 
suggestion was that the FreeBSD system would report what packages where 
being used on a regular basis (the only way to properly record what 
ports/packages were being used), then that is an entirely seperate 
discussion, and one that I have not addressed to this point. However, If 
that was your suggestion, then I am extremely glad that is not how the 
ports system currently operates, for the same reason I am glad that 
spyware is not installed on my computer.


If you do not have a regular reporting to home base mechanism in place, 
then how would you be able to monitor what is still being used .. which 
is what we are interested in?

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Re: New FreeBSD logo

2006-05-15 Thread Adrian Pavone

Henry Lenzi wrote:


It was, I am sorry to say.  The core developer that pushed for all
this said he was tired of when presenting FreeBSD to have to field
a bunch of questions by people hung up over the devil image, it
distracted from the presentation of the operating system's features.

Ted



You're kidding, right? Say you're kidding.
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If only he was.

I say don't be ashamed of Beastie, and if anyone asks, tell them Hey, 
it's our logo. Deal with that how you want to. If anyone still keeps 
asking, tell them they are ignorant and kick them out. Should shut up 
the rest.


Altough I have been known for being rather blunt with my techniques ... 
Blunt but effective though ;)

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Re: mpd4 does not want to work at all

2006-05-15 Thread Adrian Pavone

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 08:49:57AM +0400, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
 


On 5/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   


I have istalled mpd4 Version 4.0b4 on FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE.
I have mpd.conf, mpd.link, mpd.secret.
When I run a mpd4, the next is printed:

Multi-link PPP for FreeBSD, by Archie L. Cobbs.
Based on iij-ppp, by Toshiharu OHNO.
mpd: pid 1773, version 4.0b4 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] 13:49 14-May-2006)
[ukrtelecom] ppp node is mpd1773-ukrtelecom
tcpmss node is mpd1773-mss
[ukrtelecom] using interface ng0
 


Write in shorter lines, mutt can help.

mpd4 is not suitable for production use yet. mpd3 works
fine, read the manual carefully and/or google for correct
configurations
   



Thank you for advice.
I have searched the google and found that this is not the problem in my
configurations, but a bug in mpd.
(http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2004-October/016617.html)
Will be it corrected?

Elisej Babenko
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As the issue was that it was not yet suitable for production, I would 
say that issues are currently being corrected. If the bug that you are 
stating has been brought to the attention of the publisher (which it 
likely has if it is a known bug), then they will fix it before release. 
Otherwise, they will fix it after release when someone complains ;)

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Re: FreeBSD logo

2006-05-15 Thread Adrian Pavone

Albert Shih wrote:


Hi all

No no it's not a new troll for the new/old freebsd's logo ;-)

No my question : Where can I find the FreeBSD logo (new or old) to put on
my xdm screen.

Regards.


--
Albert SHIH
Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT)
U.F.R. de Mathematiques.
7 ième étage, plateau D, bureau 10
Heure local/Local time:
Mon May 15 22:44:30 CEST 2006
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If you want Beastie, you can find him at either http://www.freebsd.org/ 
or you can always do a search for beastie in http://images.google.com


In relation to the sex toy, I am not sure of any that don't have a 
background colour/image attached...

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Re: The logo discussion

2006-05-17 Thread Adrian Pavone

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg 
'groggy' Lehey

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:56 AM
To: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: The logo discussion

   



 


- I used to answer many questions on this mailing list.  Recently
people have been hijacking it for purposes of penis size
comparison. 
   



So Greg, just how big is yours? ;-)

Ted

 

I think Greg is a contender of the it's not the size that counts it's 
how you use it belief ;)

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Re: Spam problem!

2006-05-25 Thread Adrian Pavone

Derek Ragona wrote:
There are many ways to combat spam.  One of the easiest is to use 
mailscanner in the ports.


You can configure mailscanner to compare senders against known lists 
of SPAMers, in addition to it's own rules.


-Derek


At 09:53 AM 5/25/2006, Olga Zenkova wrote:

I use sendmail 8.13.3 and gather full log of its work.
I see such strings in it:

 RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 250 2.1.5 user1domain.com... Recipient ok
 RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 250 2.1.5 user2domain.com... Recipient ok
 DATA
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

where user1, user2 - users names
domain.com - domain name

After that user1 and user2 get spam letters to their
mailboxes with field To: user3 in it. There are no
user1 or user2 in this field. Is it possible to cut
off these letters? Especially it is difficult to
explain for user1 and user2 why they got letters
addressed not for them.

Thanks!
Olga Zenkova



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Re: Auto Replay

2006-05-25 Thread Adrian Pavone

mamaj m wrote:

Dear all,
I have freebsd 5.3
how to counfigare an email to auto replay

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I'm guessing you mean reply :)

What mail programs are we talking about here?
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Re: Intel Mac experiences

2006-05-25 Thread Adrian Pavone
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James,

By an Intel Mac, do you mean an i386? Or still a PPC?

If you are referring to an i386, then the i386 install CD should work,
and any problems you are having should involve more detail so that we
can have a rough idea what is going on (something more then gets just
past the boot menu and then stops. For example, does it freeze with
only the boot menu showing, do any other messages appear at the bottom
of the screen after the boot menu, does the screen go blank, etc.)

Ohh, and as Ted was saying, MacOS X is built on BSD :)

James Earl wrote:
 I'm not joking.  This is a FreeBSD mailing list isn't it?
 
 On 5/25/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Please tell me your joking, don't you know that MacOS X is
 just a commercialized version of FreeBSD?

 Ted

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 Hi,
 
 I'm just curious if there's any developers playing around with getting
 FreeBSD installed onto an Intel Mac, and if you could share any
 experiences or development plans?  My 6.1-RELEASE installation CD gets
 just past the boot menu and then stops.  OpenBSD boots further but not
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Re: Flashing BIOS/Making bootable DOS filsystem on USB stick

2006-05-25 Thread Adrian Pavone
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What about using 2 floppies? The first, your FreeDOS disk, to boot from,
then, once booted, change to the disk you have put the BIOS executable on?

Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
 I have a problem with my laptop, and before Dell will consider taking it
 back, I have to go through their checklist and make sure I've tried
 everything on that list first. This includes upgrading the BIOS.
 
 
 The problem is that Dell provides the BIOS upgrade in two forms:
 
 (a) A DOS executable
 (b) A Windows self-contained utility to make a boot floppy
 
 Since I have neither Windows nor a floppy disk, I'll have to be
 creative. I thought that maybe I could install some boot code on a USB
 flash drive, newfs_msdos, and copy FreeDOS along with the executable (a)
 mentioned above.
 
 Problem is: How do I install the boot code on the drive? FreeDOS
 provides a floppy-image, so I thought I could just dd that to my USB
 drive, and boot off of that. But I need to put the BIOS upgrade utility
 on the disk as well, and it is 784 kiB. Could I grow the image?
 
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Re: Intel Mac experiences

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No, I don't. I have never had a need, or even a use, for one.

However, my comment on being more descriptive still stands regardless of
whether I did or didn't have an Intel Mac. And it would allow whoever
does actually help you to have something to work with.

At first glance, sounds like a hardware driver issue, but by knowing
nothing about you or your computer then that you have an intel mac that
is hanging after boot, then no real help can be offered.

James Earl wrote:
 Do you have an Intel Mac?
 
 On 5/25/06, Adrian Pavone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 James,
 
 By an Intel Mac, do you mean an i386? Or still a PPC?
 
 If you are referring to an i386, then the i386 install CD should work,
 and any problems you are having should involve more detail so that we
 can have a rough idea what is going on (something more then gets just
 past the boot menu and then stops. For example, does it freeze with
 only the boot menu showing, do any other messages appear at the bottom
 of the screen after the boot menu, does the screen go blank, etc.)
 
 Ohh, and as Ted was saying, MacOS X is built on BSD :)
 
 James Earl wrote:
 I'm not joking.  This is a FreeBSD mailing list isn't it?
 
 On 5/25/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Please tell me your joking, don't you know that MacOS X is
 just a commercialized version of FreeBSD?
 
 Ted
 
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 Subject: Intel Mac experiences
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm just curious if there's any developers playing around with
 getting
 FreeBSD installed onto an Intel Mac, and if you could share any
 experiences or development plans?  My 6.1-RELEASE installation CD
 gets
 just past the boot menu and then stops.  OpenBSD boots further but
 not
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Re: Intel Mac experiences

2006-05-25 Thread Adrian Pavone
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Ahh, There we go, a happy ending.

James Earl wrote:
 Thanks for your suggestions.  I found some more intel mac posts in
 freebsd-current.
 
 On 5/25/06, Adrian Pavone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 James,
 
 By an Intel Mac, do you mean an i386? Or still a PPC?
 
 If you are referring to an i386, then the i386 install CD should work,
 and any problems you are having should involve more detail so that we
 can have a rough idea what is going on (something more then gets just
 past the boot menu and then stops. For example, does it freeze with
 only the boot menu showing, do any other messages appear at the bottom
 of the screen after the boot menu, does the screen go blank, etc.)
 
 Ohh, and as Ted was saying, MacOS X is built on BSD :)
 
 James Earl wrote:
 I'm not joking.  This is a FreeBSD mailing list isn't it?
 
 On 5/25/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Please tell me your joking, don't you know that MacOS X is
 just a commercialized version of FreeBSD?
 
 Ted
 
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 Hi,
 
 I'm just curious if there's any developers playing around with
 getting
 FreeBSD installed onto an Intel Mac, and if you could share any
 experiences or development plans?  My 6.1-RELEASE installation CD
 gets
 just past the boot menu and then stops.  OpenBSD boots further but
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Re: textproc: Typesetting holy content

2006-05-26 Thread Adrian Pavone
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Kyrre Nygard wrote:
 
 Hello!
 
 I hope this is not too off topic.
 
 I'm involved in some studies here, on the authority of holy scriptures.
 
 I am trying to transcribe The Noble Qur'an, by some said to be the most
 elegant book
 ever written, into LaTeX format. That way I can format it the way I wish,
 and study it at my own premises.
 
 I began to wget -m http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/
 
 Which gave me 001.qmt.html all the way up to 114.qmt.html.
 
 Next, I ran this:
 
 for i in `find -s . -name *.html`; do w3m -dump $i 
 ${i%.html}.txt; echo ${i%.html}.txt; done
 
 And ended up with 001.qmt.txt all the way up to 114.qmt.txt.
 
 Then, I took 001.qmt.txt, which looked like this:
 
 -- 
 
 USC
 USC
 Compendium of Muslim Texts
 
 Fundamentals
 Allah
 Muhammad
 Qur'an
 Sunnah
 Pillars
 
 Special Topics
 Economics
 History
 Human Relations
 Law
 Misconceptions About Islam
 Politics
 
 Tools
 Qur'an Search
 Hadeeth Search
 Glossary
 
 Translations of the Qur'an, Chapter 1:
 
 AL-FATIHA (THE OPENING)
 
 Total Verses: 7
 Revealed At: MAKKA
 Maududi's introduction
 
 ---
 
 
 001.001
 YUSUFALI: In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
 PICKTHAL: In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
 SHAKIR: In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
 
 001.002
 YUSUFALI: Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
 PICKTHAL: Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds,
 SHAKIR: All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.
 
 001.003
 YUSUFALI: Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
 PICKTHAL: The Beneficent, the Merciful.
 SHAKIR: The Beneficent, the Merciful.
 
 001.004
 YUSUFALI: Master of the Day of Judgment.
 PICKTHAL: Master of the Day of Judgment,
 SHAKIR: Master of the Day of Judgment.
 
 001.005
 YUSUFALI: Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
 PICKTHAL: Thee (alone) we worship; Thee (alone) we ask for help.
 SHAKIR: Thee do we serve and Thee do we beseech for help.
 
 001.006
 YUSUFALI: Show us the straight way,
 PICKTHAL: Show us the straight path,
 SHAKIR: Keep us on the right path.
 
 001.007
 YUSUFALI: The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those
 whose
 (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.
 PICKTHAL: The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of
 those
 who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray.
 SHAKIR: The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors. Not (the
 path)
 of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down, nor of those who go astray.
 
 Sponsored by the MSA.
 
 -- 
 
 And transformed it into LaTeX format:
 
 -- 
 
 \documentclass[11pt,a4paper,oneside,english]{book}
 \begin{document}
 
 \title{The Noble Qur'an}
 
 \tableofcontents{}
 
 \chapter{AL-FATIHA (THE OPENING)}
 
 001.001 In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
 001.002 Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
 001.003 Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
 001.004 Master of the Day of Judgment.
 001.005 Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
 001.006 Show us the straight way,
 001.007 The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those
 whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.
 
 -- 
 
 Basically what I did manually on the first file is what I intend to do
 automatically
 with all the other files. The format remains the same, however the
 quantity of text will differ.
 
 The process, to be done on each of my now *.txt files, would look
 something like this:
 
 1
 Cut out everything before line 27.
 
 2
 Take line 27, and embody it. So if line 27 says HELLO, it will become:
 
 \chapter{HELLO}
 
 3
 Cut out everything preceding line 27 until a NNN.NNN (verse indication)
 appears.
 
 4
 Join the NNN.NNN with the below line and cut out YUSUFALI:
 
 5
 Join all lines below the YUSUFALI: line ...
 
 6
 Until the PICKTHAL: line appears. Then, delete it and all below lines
 until the next NNN.NNN appears.
 
 The reason is that the University of California compilation displays
 three different english translations and I'd only be interested in the
 first one.
 
 For instance, this:
 
 -- 
 
 004.054
 YUSUFALI: Or do they envy mankind for what Allah hath given them of his
 bounty?
 but We had already given the people of Abraham the Book and Wisdom, and
 conferred upon them a great kingdom.
 PICKTHAL: Or are they jealous of mankind because of that which Allah of His
 bounty hath bestowed upon them? For We bestowed upon the house of
 Abraham (of
 old) the Scripture and wisdom, and We bestowed on them a mighty kingdom.
 SHAKIR: Or do they envy the people for what Allah has given them of His
 grace?
 But indeed We have given to Ibrahim's children the Book and the wisdom,
 and We
 have given them a grand kingdom.
 
 -- 
 
 Would simply become this, in one line:
 
 -- 
 
 004.054 Or do they envy mankind for what Allah hath given them of his
 bounty? but We 

Re: textproc: Typesetting holy content

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Kirk Strauser wrote:
 On Friday 26 May 2006 11:35, Kyrre Nygard wrote:
 
 I am trying to transcribe The Noble Qur'an, by some said to be the
 most elegant book ever written, into LaTeX format. That way I can format it
 the way I wish, and study it at my own premises.
 
 I prefer Godel, Escher  Bach, but that's just me.  Anyway, didn't 
 html2latex (/usr/ports/print/html2latex/pkg-descr) work?

- From my understanding, html2latex wouldn't have cut the parts out that
he doesn't need, but would just convert the complete files. As such, it
would not accomplish his request.

Then again, I may well be wrong about html2latex's ability ...

Regards,
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Re: Problems booting operating system and with root password

2006-05-26 Thread Adrian Pavone
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Andy Greenwood wrote:
 I don't know what you mean by kernel errors on boot, but you can
 recover your root password by booting into single user mode and then
 running passwd.
 
 On 5/26/06, Polina Mnouskina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello.

   I am working for the company, that is using FreeBSD on the server
 mashins.  At the moment we have two problems: First, one of the
 mashins give no kernael error on the boot. Second, we have lost our
 root password to the second one. Is there a way to fix any of this two
 problems without reinstaling the system.

   Please, answer asap. Any help (free or paid) will be highly
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Unless single user mode is set to insecure, in which case that wouldn't
recover the password.

You could always use a different bootCD and chroot into the FreeBSD
system, then change the password.

Or bootCD and remove the root password hash from /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow

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Re: Problems booting operating system and with root password

2006-05-26 Thread Adrian Pavone
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Miguel wrote:
 Andy Greenwood wrote:
 
 I don't know what you mean by kernel errors on boot, but you can
 recover your root password by booting into single user mode and then
 running passwd.
 
 
 Hi, i have a similar problem, i forgot my root password and the server
 its in a remote colocation site, is there a way to recover the encrypted
 password and crackit some way, i have my normal account (which is in
 wheel group), i even know that the root's pass begings with
 MAG_something, but i really cant remember the complete root's pass,
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It is easiest if the system's single user mode hasn't been locked down

If single user mode HAS been locked down (ie. needs the root password),
then you will need a boot disc so you can chroot to your FreeBSD system
from another, or so you can directly edit the /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow
 file.

The password hash *MIGHT* also be in one of those two files, depending
on your configuration.

Regards,
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Re: Problems booting operating system and with root password

2006-05-26 Thread Adrian Pavone
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Adrian Pavone wrote:
 Miguel wrote:
 Andy Greenwood wrote:

 I don't know what you mean by kernel errors on boot, but you can
 recover your root password by booting into single user mode and then
 running passwd.

 Hi, i have a similar problem, i forgot my root password and the server
 its in a remote colocation site, is there a way to recover the encrypted
 password and crackit some way, i have my normal account (which is in
 wheel group), i even know that the root's pass begings with
 MAG_something, but i really cant remember the complete root's pass,
 rebooting in single user mode is my best bet?

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 It is easiest if the system's single user mode hasn't been locked down
 
 If single user mode HAS been locked down (ie. needs the root password),
 then you will need a boot disc so you can chroot to your FreeBSD system
 from another, or so you can directly edit the /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow
  file.
 
 The password hash *MIGHT* also be in one of those two files, depending
 on your configuration.
 
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Re: Problems booting operating system and with root password

2006-05-26 Thread Adrian Pavone
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Miguel wrote:
 Atom Powers wrote:
 
 On 5/26/06, Miguel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, i have a similar problem, i forgot my root password and the server
 its in a remote colocation site, is there a way to recover the encrypted
 password and crackit some way, i have my normal account (which is in
 wheel group), i even know that the root's pass begings with
 MAG_something, but i really cant remember the complete root's pass,
 rebooting in single user mode is my best bet?


 If you are in wheel, then you should be able to sudo su to switch to
 the root account and then passwd root to reset the password.

 :-(
 No luck, this is the error
 
 sudo su
 
 We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
 Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:
 
#1) Respect the privacy of others.
#2) Think before you type.
#3) With great power comes great responsibility.
 
 Password:
 mmiranda is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
 sudo su
 mmiranda is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
 passwd root
 passwd: permission denied

 
 I entered my account's password...
 
 Anything more?
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The previous person mistakenly thought that if you were in the wheel
group, you were also set up for wheel. Unforunately, root would have had
to set up the sudo configuration file so that mmiranda (your login)
could use the sudo command to run su. This was not set up, so that is
not an option in this case.

Regards,
Adrian

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Re: Problems booting operating system and with root password

2006-05-26 Thread Adrian Pavone
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Atom Powers wrote:
 On 5/26/06, Miguel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Atom Powers wrote:

  On 5/26/06, Miguel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi, i have a similar problem, i forgot my root password and the server
  its in a remote colocation site, is there a way to recover the
 encrypted
  password and crackit some way, i have my normal account (which is in
  wheel group), i even know that the root's pass begings with
  MAG_something, but i really cant remember the complete root's pass,
  rebooting in single user mode is my best bet?
 
 
  If you are in wheel, then you should be able to sudo su to switch to
  the root account and then passwd root to reset the password.
 
 :-(
 No luck, this is the error

   sudo su

 We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
 Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:

 #1) Respect the privacy of others.
 #2) Think before you type.
 #3) With great power comes great responsibility.

 Password:
 mmiranda is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
   sudo su
 mmiranda is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
   passwd root
 passwd: permission denied
  

 I entered my account's password...

 Anything more?

 
 Yes. Check your man pages; the format of the sudoers file is very specific.
 Usually you can get away with a line like this:
 -- 
 %wheelALL=(ALL)ALL
 -- 
 
 

Altough can't only root modify (write changes to) the sudoers file? As
he is trying to get access to root (without a root password), this is
not possible from what I can see.

Regards,
Adrian

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