[Gimp-user] PDF
Recently installed Gimp. Could someone step me through how to change the settings so Gimp no longer opens my pdf files? I see the issue mentioned on the web but the solutions are for a person more computer literate than me. They also seemed to mostly relate to Ubuntu and wanting Evince to open pdf. I have Windows 7 with Chrome Firefox browsers, and adobe reader. Tried looking here - sorry if I missed it. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] GIMP Text Tool
Hi - I am trying to add text to a graphic, I have tried 3x's. after the 2nd time the program closed I got smart enough to save it every step of the way. I can add the text, and duplicate the layer. I want to make a shadow effect. I can move the top layer into the position that I want. But as soon as I try to change the color of the top layer the whole program shuts down!!! This is so frustrating. I have a few photo shoots coming up, and I will need to be able to add text and graphics to the photos. I used 2.6 until it quit working on my computer, so I uninstalled it and installed the 2.8 version... any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated! I am using Windows 7! Jenn G ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] PDF
On 05/12/2013 07:48 AM, Janet Little wrote: Recently installed Gimp. Could someone step me through how to change the settings so Gimp no longer opens my pdf files? I see the issue mentioned on the web but the solutions are for a person more computer literate than me. They also seemed to mostly relate to Ubuntu and wanting Evince to open pdf. I have Windows 7 with Chrome Firefox browsers, and adobe reader. Tried looking here - sorry if I missed it. Could you right-click on a PDF file and use the Open With menu to choose Adobe Reader (or some other PDF reader) as the application to use? When doing that, make sure the use as default application (or similarly phrased) check box is checked. Peace... Tom -- /When we dance, you have a way with me, Stay with me... Sway with me.../ ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] PDF
On 12.05.2013 17:22, Tom Williams wrote: On 05/12/2013 07:48 AM, Janet Little wrote: Recently installed Gimp. Could someone step me through how to change the settings so Gimp no longer opens my pdf files? I see the issue mentioned on the web but the solutions are for a person more computer literate than me. They also seemed to mostly relate to Ubuntu and wanting Evince to open pdf. I have Windows 7 with Chrome Firefox browsers, and adobe reader. Tried looking here - sorry if I missed it. Could you right-click on a PDF file and use the Open With menu to choose Adobe Reader (or some other PDF reader) as the application to use? When doing that, make sure the use as default application (or similarly phrased) check box is checked. I found http://www.thewindowsclub.com/change-file-associations-windows when searching for windows 7 file associations. At a glance, it seems to be pretty straightforward. -- HTH, Michael ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] PDF
Hi, I am Windows7 64 bits my OS is in French so may be I am not using the corresponding English/US terms - Left Click on the Start button (at the bottom left of the screen), - The corresponding start windows opens, then Left click on Configuration Panel - A new windows appears. Search for Default Program which is just located under Program and funtionnalities - A new windows appears with four selectable options. Left click on the second one from the top associate a type of file or a protocole with a specific program - lets some time to your computer for displaying all the associations then with the lift search for .pdf. - When you find it, then you shall find GIMP in regard, then select the line with a left click. - Look at the top of the windows on the right hand side, you will find a button displaying change the program. Left click on it. - A new windows appears, in which you should find the Adobe Reader program. IF SO - You just have to left click on it then click on the OK Button and the windows will close. - Now aside .pdf Adobe Acrobat Document will appear and the things are done. - Close the windows with a left click on the button located on the bottom right handside, then close other windows and check if everything is OK in opening a .pdf cocument. IF ADOBE READER PROGRAM does not appear as above, then the thing are a bit more complicated : - verify that the box to be ticked just under the Recommanded Programs window named use always the selected program to open this type of document is ticked. - Then left click on the Search button located just aside. - A New window appears which contains the Program Files : on the left you will see the organization of your C Hard disk which is supporting the Operating System and all Programs and in most cases the documents ; on the right, you will see the details of the directory which is selected in the left part. Then it depends if you are using a 32 bits or a 64 bits Windows 7. If it is a 32 bits you are in the right location i.e. Program Files. If you are using a 64 bits, you have to select Program Files (x86) : use the lift down and left click on Program Files (x86). - At the top of the right part (sub-window), you will see : Adobe. left click twice on it, then you might have one or two reader : Reader 9.0 or Reader 10.0 - Left click twice on the higher reader you have, in my case Reader 10.0. - you will see four directories : esl, Reader, Resource, Setup Files - Left click twice on Reader directory to look at the details - You will find a .exe named AcroRd32.exe - select it with a left click then left click on the Open button at the bottom right of the window. - The .exe shall appear in the change program windows, then click on OK and it is done. - Proceed as above to verify the things. Hope it will help Regards Paul -Message d'origine- From: Janet Little Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:48 PM To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: [Gimp-user] PDF Recently installed Gimp. Could someone step me through how to change the settings so Gimp no longer opens my pdf files? I see the issue mentioned on the web but the solutions are for a person more computer literate than me. They also seemed to mostly relate to Ubuntu and wanting Evince to open pdf. I have Windows 7 with Chrome Firefox browsers, and adobe reader. Tried looking here - sorry if I missed it. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
Hi, Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? Thanks much for any pointers. Henry ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Peters hwpet...@jamadots.com wrote: Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system. There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my system anyway). There's this: http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or /usr/local/. 'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll need. The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or wherever. It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile and install 2.8 without removing 2.6. There are quite a dew deps to work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and you should be fine. HTH, Chris ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
On 12.05.2013 19:36, Henry W. Peters wrote: Thanks much for any pointers. Please don't hijack threads - your mail will appear two levels deep in the thread about changing the PDF file associations for some users. If you want to start a new topic, please compose a new message to the gimp-user-list@gnome.org list mail address (and make sure that you're subscribed). -- Thanks, Michael ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
Hi Some time ago i tried both compiling Gimp 2.8 on Squeeze, and installing Debian Testing ... to see what's wrong with my attempt to compile Gimp 2.8. To make long thing short - problems with compilation are caused by dependencies of Gimp 2.8 dependencies. At some moment You end up with upgrading gcc and half other system libraries. If only You can install wheezy it should solve most of Your troubles. There is one possible workaround: one user of this mailing list approached similar problem on FreeBSD. Solution was building Gimp and all it's dependencies in jail. This way system was stable and Gimp 2.8 had all needed dependencies inside jail. Unfortunately i can't remember where this instruction was and whether it can be ported to Debian. Dominik 2013/5/12, Chris Mohler cr33...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Peters hwpet...@jamadots.com wrote: Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system. There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my system anyway). There's this: http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or /usr/local/. 'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll need. The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or wherever. It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile and install 2.8 without removing 2.6. There are quite a dew deps to work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and you should be fine. HTH, Chris ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list -- Dominik Tabisz ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
Thanks all for your replies ON THIS (as far as I know) NEW THREAD ( Michael, I am a subscriber). It sounds like building 2.8 on Debian Squeeze is a (too) shaky proposition... as I do use it with some regularity, I should probably wait until the Debian packager programmers resolve some of the dependency issues... (?) But I will persist, somehow/way... I should have mentioned earlier, that my only desire is to have a stable/workable version of GIMP... I hesitate to uninstall 2.6.1 because of POSSIBLE issues regarding removals that might damage my system... namely 'gnome-office,' I am just totally in the dark regarding what that piece of software is... but it sounds like something to do w/ the gui of the desktop... (advise appreciated here too). Henry On 05/12/2013 03:14 PM, Dominik Tabisz wrote: Hi Some time ago i tried both compiling Gimp 2.8 on Squeeze, and installing Debian Testing ... to see what's wrong with my attempt to compile Gimp 2.8. To make long thing short - problems with compilation are caused by dependencies of Gimp 2.8 dependencies. At some moment You end up with upgrading gcc and half other system libraries. If only You can install wheezy it should solve most of Your troubles. There is one possible workaround: one user of this mailing list approached similar problem on FreeBSD. Solution was building Gimp and all it's dependencies in jail. This way system was stable and Gimp 2.8 had all needed dependencies inside jail. Unfortunately i can't remember where this instruction was and whether it can be ported to Debian. Dominik 2013/5/12, Chris Mohlercr33...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Petershwpet...@jamadots.com wrote: Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system. There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my system anyway). There's this: http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or /usr/local/. 'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll need. The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or wherever. It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile and install 2.8 without removing 2.6. There are quite a dew deps to work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and you should be fine. HTH, Chris On 05/12/2013 02:44 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote: Please don't hijack threads - your mail will appear two levels deep in the thread about changing the PDF file associations for some users. If you want to start a new topic, please compose a new message to the gimp-user-list@gnome.org list mail address (and make sure that you're subscribed). -- Thanks, Michael ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
* Henry W. Peters hwpet...@jamadots.com [05-12-13 15:48]: Thanks all for your replies ON THIS (as far as I know) NEW THREAD ( Michael, I am a subscriber). It sounds like building 2.8 on Debian Squeeze is a (too) shaky proposition... as I do use it with some regularity, I should probably wait until the Debian packager programmers resolve some of the dependency issues... (?) But I will persist, somehow/way... I should have mentioned earlier, that my only desire is to have a stable/workable version of GIMP... I hesitate to uninstall 2.6.1 because of POSSIBLE issues regarding removals that might damage my system... namely 'gnome-office,' I am just totally in the dark regarding what that piece of software is... but it sounds like something to do w/ the gui of the desktop... (advise appreciated here too). Henry On 05/12/2013 03:14 PM, Dominik Tabisz wrote: Hi Some time ago i tried both compiling Gimp 2.8 on Squeeze, and installing Debian Testing ... to see what's wrong with my attempt to compile Gimp 2.8. To make long thing short - problems with compilation are caused by dependencies of Gimp 2.8 dependencies. At some moment You end up with upgrading gcc and half other system libraries. If only You can install wheezy it should solve most of Your troubles. There is one possible workaround: one user of this mailing list approached similar problem on FreeBSD. Solution was building Gimp and all it's dependencies in jail. This way system was stable and Gimp 2.8 had all needed dependencies inside jail. Unfortunately i can't remember where this instruction was and whether it can be ported to Debian. Dominik 2013/5/12, Chris Mohlercr33...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Petershwpet...@jamadots.com wrote: Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system. There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my system anyway). There's this: http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or /usr/local/. 'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll need. The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or wherever. It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile and install 2.8 without removing 2.6. There are quite a dew deps to work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and you should be fine. HTH, Chris On 05/12/2013 02:44 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote: Please don't hijack threads - your mail will appear two levels deep in the thread about changing the PDF file associations for some users. If you want to start a new topic, please compose a new message to the gimp-user-list@gnome.org list mail address (and make sure that you're subscribed). -- Thanks, Michael But you have not started a *new* thread but merely changed the subject and at that not for this post but several previous to this. You are still hijacking the PDF thread see: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/HijackedThread.jpg -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.orgPhoto Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
This topic accidently started as reply to '[Gimp-user] PDF' and likes to be continued here. Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 13:36:10 -0400 From: Henry W. Peters Hi, Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? Thanks much for any pointers. Henry --- Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 13:33:35 -0500 From: Chris Mohler in reply to Henry W. Peters On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Peters hwpet...@jamadots.com wrote: Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system. There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my system anyway). There's this: http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or /usr/local/. 'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll need. The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or wherever. It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile and install 2.8 without removing 2.6. There are quite a dew deps to work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and you should be fine. HTH, Chris --- Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 21:14:21 +0200 From: Dominik Tabisz in reply to Chris Mohler Hi Some time ago i tried both compiling Gimp 2.8 on Squeeze, and installing Debian Testing ... to see what's wrong with my attempt to compile Gimp 2.8. To make long thing short - problems with compilation are caused by dependencies of Gimp 2.8 dependencies. At some moment You end up with upgrading gcc and half other system libraries. If only You can install wheezy it should solve most of Your troubles. There is one possible workaround: one user of this mailing list approached similar problem on FreeBSD. Solution was building Gimp and all it's dependencies in jail. This way system was stable and Gimp 2.8 had all needed dependencies inside jail. Unfortunately i can't remember where this instruction was and whether it can be ported to Debian. Dominik --- Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 15:48:00 -0400 From: Henry W. Peters in reply to Dominik Tabisz Thanks all for your replies ON THIS (as far as I know) NEW THREAD ( Michael, I am a subscriber). It sounds like building 2.8 on Debian Squeeze is a (too) shaky proposition... as I do use it with some regularity, I should probably wait until the Debian packager programmers resolve some of the dependency issues... (?) But I will persist, somehow/way... I should have mentioned earlier, that my only desire is to have a stable/workable version of GIMP... I hesitate to uninstall 2.6.1 because of POSSIBLE issues regarding removals that might damage my system... namely 'gnome-office,' I am just totally in the dark regarding what that piece of software is... but it sounds like something to do w/ the gui of the desktop... (advise appreciated here too). Henry ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
This topic accidently started as reply to '[Gimp-user] PDF' and likes to be continued here. Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 13:36:10 -0400 From: Henry W. Peters Hi, Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)? Thanks much for any pointers. You can build any number of gimps independent of each other. First you need to understand that when you build something, it goes hunting for libraries in a path specified by your environment. So first thing to do is set the environment path for your console. Do all your building out of the same console where these environment variables have been set. export PATH=/build_dir/gimp-2.8/bin:$PATH export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/build_dir/gimp-2.8/lib/pkgconfig export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/build_dir/gimp-2.8/lib Now cd into your source directory and ./configure --PREFIX=/build_dir Configure may fail, READ the message on failure. If it tells you that gegl is the wrong version, download babl and gegl and then build babl first, then gegl using ./configure --PREFIX=/build_dir Run configure again from your gimp source, now if it tells you that GTK is the wrong version, download the latest glib, gtk, atk, gtk-pixbuf and pango and build them, again with ./configure --PREFIX=/build_dir Actually if you follow this tutorial, http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/compiling-gimp-for-ubuntu you could build the git version but would not recommend that, but rather apply the principles to the source code. And when you finish, start the program from the console; # /build_dir/bin/gimp-2.x Note also that the build_dir should not be /usr/local but rather something like ~/user/gimp-2.x -- Owen ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?
tl;dr - see http://azul.m.iguel.net/Blog/?entrada=73 On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 09:06 +1000, Owen wrote: From: Henry W. Peters Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge or experience building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is 2.6.1. You can build any number of gimps independent of each other. The real issue is that Debian Squeeze is going to be too out of date to make this easy. For example, it has libgtk2.0-0 2.20.1-2, whereas gimp I think needs 2.24 or later. The included version of gimp is 2.6.10. At a guess Henry will need to build . gimp . gegl . babl . pango . gtk2 . gdk2 . atk . gtk-pixbuf . harfbuzz (I think) . cairo . pixman . glib Probably a new autoconf will be needed, and likely a new gcc, libc, and more. Compare . http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gimp . http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/gimp The tutorial for ubuntu would work with a newer Debian release. However, http://azul.m.iguel.net/Blog/?entrada=73 has instructions for building gimp 2.8 on Squeeze. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
