[lace] curiouser and curiouser
Did you know of the poem by Lewis Carroll called "The Hunting of the Snark" It includes mention (and a picture) of a lace making BEAVER! http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/c/carroll/lewis/snark/snark.html Jenny Brandis Brandis Computing Services PO Box 1525 Kununurra, WA 6743 Ph: 0408 811 398 fax: 08 9168 1002 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] flyer/handout on lace
The little band of lace makers here in sunny Kununurra, West Australia have been asked to do a one and a half day demo in the handcraft pavilion at the local Ag show this weekend. It is a wonderful opportunity for us to advertise our small group and lace in general so I would like to capitalise on it by having a handout that will induce others to give it a try. We will be severely limited for floor space so it will be one or possible two at a time sitting and making lace, answering questions etc. The lace we make here is Torchon and the only class for lace in the whole display is "Bobbin Lace, piece or length" but I would like to include a little about lace in general. It is an ideal time for that as we have been lucky enough to have attracted some awesome entries from other lace makers of Australia. My logic is that the flyer should include a little about each type displayed, contact details for our group, the state guild and the national guild for those who are passing through. So my question is - do you have any suggestions for inclusion, exclusion or even any photos of different types of lace we could incorporate? The finished flyer will be an A4 sheet folded in three - called a brochure. Jenny Brandis Brandis Computing Services PO Box 1525 Kununurra, WA 6743 Ph: 0408 811 398 fax: 08 9168 1002 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING
Let me assure you all, I have been nagging ILSoft since March to get on and put a demo version of the programme on their website. The page actually says it is available, but even I can't find it! Miranda, I'll email you personally with a copy of the demo version, and I'll also email ILSoft again! Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sheree Sent: 12 July 2006 14:47 To: 'ARACHNE' Subject: RE: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING I have not tried Lace 2000 but when I went to their website I could not find the link to the demo they mention. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of it so I can try it out before I buy it? I have just recently started designing on my computer instead of pen and paper. I would love to try it out. Miranda - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING
I have not tried Lace 2000 but when I went to their website I could not find the link to the demo they mention. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of it so I can try it out before I buy it? I have just recently started designing on my computer instead of pen and paper. I would love to try it out. Miranda * If you do not talk to your cat about catnip, who will? * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Faye Owers Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:26 PM To: ARACHNE Subject: [lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING Hi Everyone, I use AutoCad for my patterns, but it is not user friendly and therefore I have not mentioned it. I use it a work so it is second nature to me, but if I did not have it I would use Lace 2000, it is quite friendly to use and there is lots of help out there if you need it. I don't draw it out first I just go straight to the computer and open all the blocks that I think I will need and start inserting and moving, just like a jigsaw it is great fun. Faye Owers Tasmania [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] COMPUTER DRAFTING
Hi Everyone, I use AutoCad for my patterns, but it is not user friendly and therefore I have not mentioned it. I use it a work so it is second nature to me, but if I did not have it I would use Lace 2000, it is quite friendly to use and there is lots of help out there if you need it. I don't draw it out first I just go straight to the computer and open all the blocks that I think I will need and start inserting and moving, just like a jigsaw it is great fun. Faye Owers Tasmania [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Replies to messages/subject changes
Hi everyone and Sue, who wrote: When replying to a posting on the list could people please not forward the whole message they are replying to? Just a quote... is sufficient. This is good advice ;) My two-bit suggestion added to that, is when the message content begins to stray from the original topic that we edit the subject line accordingly so that others can benefit, or skip. We can also start a new message as some have been doing, e.g. with the lace design software topic. -- Bev off to play around with a Buckspoint pattern on my pillow (not on the computer), in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Replies to messages
Hi there, Could I just express a grouch that has been growing in my mind lately? When replying to a posting on the list could people please not forward the whole message they are replying to? Just a quote from it to give the gist of what you are replying to is sufficient. Some of the messages are getting quite long because of the constant hitting of the reply button Sorry to moan! Sue Fink, Masterton, New Zealand - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] I won! - ebay
It's fun and addictive. What's your user name, so I won't bid against you... Sumac At 04:49 PM 7/11/2006, David in Ballarat wrote: Dear Friends, I'm so excited - just won my first ever ebay acution for item # 110005063835 It was 3 antique bone bobbins from Exeter inscribed with "Henry", "Lucy" and "Jane": 2 are spangled and one needs some beads. I can tell you I was the onnly bidder until 30 seconds to go and made one frantic effort. Reckon my new bid got there at about 2 seconds. 3 bone bobbins for GBL16-10 is very cheap by Australian standards. I paid immediately by Paypal and that wasn't half the challenge I'd expected - straight through. Now I'd better go back to ebay and do some hunting :) David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sumac in southern Vermont USA www.sumac.us http://www.sover.net/~sumac - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace museums in France
Dear Ilske, Thank you for your posting about museums in France. I hope to be in the Caen/Bayeaux area over Christmas week this year as my DD will be teaching English in the Rouen school district until May 2007. We are hoping to rent a gite for the week, possibly in Honfleur. Does anyone know if places close down during the week after Christmas Day? I am also looking in the Alencon area where I thought I visited a lace shop/school when we were there a few years ago, DH seems to think it was a different town. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace drafting on computers
WONDERFUL news!! That will make this new toy even more fun! Thanks for letting me know! Clay Ruth Budge wrote: Yes, Clay, your tablet will work with Lace 2000. Quite a few people out here use a tablet - ideal for those suffering RSI, and even an elderly lady with Parkinsons finds it easier to use. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clay Blackwell Sent: 12 July 2006 06:34 To: Brenda Paternoster; ARACHNE Subject: Re: [lace] lace drafting on computers Something I've JUST begun to explore is the potential of a computer tablet in design work. I recently got a tablet which attaches to my computer and came bundled with Adobe Photoshop Essentials. The program is probably a less powerful version of Photoshop, but provides layers to work in, and allows the bottom layer to be a photograph or grid or whatever you want to scan in. I love working with a stylus instead of a mouse, and my initial attempts have been promising, although I'll need some practice to learn the program better, and to control the lines better. I have noticed a "snap to grid" option in the toolbox... I've worked with Lace 2000 for a few years - and have nothing to show for it really, although that's my problem, not a reflection on the program!! But this tablet system frees things up a lot and may even work with Lace 2000 - I'll have to try it! So I'll keep you posted on how things are going. Clay - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lily of the valley pattern
If you check out this web page on my guild site you will see my pattern for lily of the valley. Probably not what you are looking for as this in not 3-D which is what I assume you are looking for. http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/notecards.html Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Elizabeth Pass.
I am sorry to send this to the list but I can't see any other way to make contact. Elizabeth Pass wrote to me earlier today and I have twice sent her a reply but my messages to her are bouncing back for some reason. This is just to say thankyou for the message Liz, I much appreciate it. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] lace drafting on computers
Yes, Clay, your tablet will work with Lace 2000. Quite a few people out here use a tablet - ideal for those suffering RSI, and even an elderly lady with Parkinsons finds it easier to use. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clay Blackwell Sent: 12 July 2006 06:34 To: Brenda Paternoster; ARACHNE Subject: Re: [lace] lace drafting on computers Something I've JUST begun to explore is the potential of a computer tablet in design work. I recently got a tablet which attaches to my computer and came bundled with Adobe Photoshop Essentials. The program is probably a less powerful version of Photoshop, but provides layers to work in, and allows the bottom layer to be a photograph or grid or whatever you want to scan in. I love working with a stylus instead of a mouse, and my initial attempts have been promising, although I'll need some practice to learn the program better, and to control the lines better. I have noticed a "snap to grid" option in the toolbox... I've worked with Lace 2000 for a few years - and have nothing to show for it really, although that's my problem, not a reflection on the program!! But this tablet system frees things up a lot and may even work with Lace 2000 - I'll have to try it! So I'll keep you posted on how things are going. Clay - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace drafting on computers
I've had graphics tablet for a couple of years. It does work with Lace 2000. Every few months I get the tablet out, connect it up, don't get on with it and put it away again. I'm far happier with a mouse than with a pen that doesn't actually draw anything. My brain just can't cope with drawing on the tablet - nothing shows on it - the result of my drawing shows on the screen. Very weird as far as I'm concerned. Probably something to do with the fact that the mouse doesn't have any other purpose than move a pointer about the screen and cause things to happen on it, but a pen is meant to draw on what it's in contact with. My stylus is moved just above the surface of the tablet, and again that's weird because it's not actually in contact with anything. I'm sure many of you have/would have no trouble with it, but it just doesn't seem to suit me. Maybe if I persisted it would become second nature like a mouse, but I don't think I can be bothered to invest the time when a mouse works perfectly for me. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - Original Message - From: Clay Blackwell To: Brenda Paternoster ; ARACHNE Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [lace] lace drafting on computers Something I've JUST begun to explore is the potential of a computer tablet in design work. Clay - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace drafting (Macs)
On Tuesday, July 11, 2006, at 04:01 PM, Rosemary Naish wrote: If there are any fellow MAC addicts out there who have found some lace design software that is properly compatible with Mac's I'd be very grateful to learn about it. I've only been able to find one, which requires OS X10.3. I haven't tried it because I'm way behind and have 10.1.5. You can see it here: http://www.knipling.de/knipling/knipling-kn30en.html Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot/seaspray/SeasprayLaceGuild.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] I won! - ebay
Congratulations David but if you are like most of us, this will be the start of your ebay addiction! Liz Melton Vic. Australia - Original Message - From: "David in Ballarat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lace" ; "chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Pamela Abikhair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "jamie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "peers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "viv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaye Aldenhoven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:49 AM Subject: [lace] I won! - ebay Dear Friends, I'm so excited - just won my first ever ebay acution for item # 110005063835 It was 3 antique bone bobbins from Exeter inscribed with "Henry", "Lucy" and "Jane": 2 are spangled and one needs some beads. I can tell you I was the onnly bidder until 30 seconds to go and made one frantic effort. Reckon my new bid got there at about 2 seconds. 3 bone bobbins for GBL16-10 is very cheap by Australian standards. I paid immediately by Paypal and that wasn't half the challenge I'd expected - straight through. Now I'd better go back to ebay and do some hunting :) David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] I won! - ebay
Dear Friends, I'm so excited - just won my first ever ebay acution for item # 110005063835 It was 3 antique bone bobbins from Exeter inscribed with "Henry", "Lucy" and "Jane": 2 are spangled and one needs some beads. I can tell you I was the onnly bidder until 30 seconds to go and made one frantic effort. Reckon my new bid got there at about 2 seconds. 3 bone bobbins for GBL16-10 is very cheap by Australian standards. I paid immediately by Paypal and that wasn't half the challenge I'd expected - straight through. Now I'd better go back to ebay and do some hunting :) David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace drafting on computers
Something I've JUST begun to explore is the potential of a computer tablet in design work. I recently got a tablet which attaches to my computer and came bundled with Adobe Photoshop Essentials. The program is probably a less powerful version of Photoshop, but provides layers to work in, and allows the bottom layer to be a photograph or grid or whatever you want to scan in. I love working with a stylus instead of a mouse, and my initial attempts have been promising, although I'll need some practice to learn the program better, and to control the lines better. I have noticed a "snap to grid" option in the toolbox... I've worked with Lace 2000 for a few years - and have nothing to show for it really, although that's my problem, not a reflection on the program!! But this tablet system frees things up a lot and may even work with Lace 2000 - I'll have to try it! So I'll keep you posted on how things are going. Clay Brenda Paternoster wrote: Hello Rosemary For years I've been using an old RISC OS Acorn machine for lace designing, but I know that when it dies I won't replace it, so I've recently bit the bullet and bought Adobe Illustrator CS2 for the Mac. The reason I went for the Acorn is that I could bend and stretch lace patterns (drawn with the built in !Draw program and distorted with !TypeStudio) more or less any way I wanted. At the time, late 1980s, there was nothing for PC that could touch it - apart maybe from AutoCad which would have cost more than a computer. CS2 can do all I want it to with the envelope tool. It's not as intuitive to me (yet!) as the Acorn but I have been able to draw a torchon pattern and then bend and wave it, so I know it's got the potential. It will also do a great deal more than I'll ever need! However, if all you want to do is draft accurate grid based laces then *any* CAD program should be able to do it. After all a lace pattern is only lines and dots! Try Googling 'CAD Mac' Brenda On 11 Jul 2006, at 20:01, Rosemary Naish wrote: Greeting fellow Spiders, I have been following the thread on designing with interest, and wondered if any of you used Macs as opposed to PC's? If there are any fellow MAC addicts out there who have found some lace design software that is properly compatible with Mac's I'd be very grateful to learn about it. Rosemary in sunny Somerset. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace drafting on computers
Hello Rosemary For years I've been using an old RISC OS Acorn machine for lace designing, but I know that when it dies I won't replace it, so I've recently bit the bullet and bought Adobe Illustrator CS2 for the Mac. The reason I went for the Acorn is that I could bend and stretch lace patterns (drawn with the built in !Draw program and distorted with !TypeStudio) more or less any way I wanted. At the time, late 1980s, there was nothing for PC that could touch it - apart maybe from AutoCad which would have cost more than a computer. CS2 can do all I want it to with the envelope tool. It's not as intuitive to me (yet!) as the Acorn but I have been able to draw a torchon pattern and then bend and wave it, so I know it's got the potential. It will also do a great deal more than I'll ever need! However, if all you want to do is draft accurate grid based laces then *any* CAD program should be able to do it. After all a lace pattern is only lines and dots! Try Googling 'CAD Mac' Brenda On 11 Jul 2006, at 20:01, Rosemary Naish wrote: Greeting fellow Spiders, I have been following the thread on designing with interest, and wondered if any of you used Macs as opposed to PC's? If there are any fellow MAC addicts out there who have found some lace design software that is properly compatible with Mac's I'd be very grateful to learn about it. Rosemary in sunny Somerset. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace drafting on computers
Greeting fellow Spiders, I have been following the thread on designing with interest, and wondered if any of you used Macs as opposed to PC's? If there are any fellow MAC addicts out there who have found some lace design software that is properly compatible with Mac's I'd be very grateful to learn about it. Rosemary in sunny Somerset. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] finishing a garter
Dear All I used gold elastic threaded through the middle of the garter. It looked really good Pictures on "webshots" shortly. Viv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny De Angelis Sent: 11 July 2006 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Arachne mailing list Subject: [lace] finishing a garter HI Nicky, thankyou very much for the idea about using Shirring Elastic for the garter, it sounds a very good way to do it, anything has to be better than the ordinary elastic and trying to hide it behind a length of ribbon, it never seems to work. I have a couple of months to get the garter finished by so will use your idea. I think I even have some white shirring elastic at the bottom of my sewing box. Many Thanks. Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. Hi Jenny Both my husband and I have now made several wedding garters. The method I use for finishing them off is this. I use shirring elastic and run ribbon only through the middle section. The shirring elastic is carefully sewn along both edges of lace next to the middle, once stitched I then carefully pull up the shirring elastic so that the garter is gathered and then knot the ends of shirring elastic and cut off the excess (which I use for other - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lily of the Valley pattern.
The link you gave isn't quite right - there should be a question mark between aspx and index http://www.e.volve.org.uk/directoryitem.aspx?index=44&item=3123&dataitem=865 It's a site which includes the Itchin Valley Lacemakers in Southampton in Hampshire on the south coast of Egland (Southampton's all one word BarbE - there's no North Hampton in Hampshire, but there is Northampton in Northamptonshire up in the Midlands - yes, very confusing) Think Jenny's already tried them. "Flowers and Butterflies in 3D Bobbin Lace" by Dorothy K Cox also has common snowdrop and spring and summer snowflakes. Perhaps something could be done with the joining of petals of the spring snowflake to make a lily of the valley flower. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - Original Message - From: Barb ETx To: Malvary J Cole ; Arachne mailing list Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Lily of the Valley pattern. Spider Hunters, I googlesd and found thi http://www.e.volve.org.uk/directoryitem.aspxindex=44&item=3123&dataitem=865 \ Could the name be a contact in South Hampton? BarbE s- Original Message - From: Malvary J Cole To: Arachne mailing list Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lily of the Valley pattern. Just went and found the issue of the Lace magazine (#37 Spring 1985) and found a picture of the John Bull Trophy Award (1984) at the English Lace School. There was also a write up about the Itchen Valley Lacemakers group. The wedding bouquet bouquet was worked in cream and apricot: 3 roses with leaves; 17 stephanotis, 14 hyacinth pips, and 5 lily of the valley. 40 members took part and it took them 400 hours. It was made in 50 Sylko thread because there was a wide enough colour range to get a close blending of the colours. There was also an open strip of lace threaded with the ribbon. It says that they were planning to make up a booklet with full instructions - don't know how to find out if that was ever done. Malvary in Ottawa - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] finishing a garter
--- Jenny De Angelis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > thankyou very much for the idea about using Shirring > Elastic for the garter, > it sounds a very good way to do it, anything has to > be better than the > ordinary elastic and trying to hide it behind a > length of ribbon, ... I like this idea, also, but wanted to throw in some more possibilities. This was discussed some time in the past. I remember someone giving another solution and it hasn't been mentioned this time. They sewed two ribbons together lengthwise, and inserted the elastic inside them. The ribbon sandwich was threaded through the garter, and the elastic pulled up to size. No matter how the ribbon gathered, the elastic could not be seen. That brings to mind another version. The ribbon sandwich forms the center with a narrow edging attached to each side of the ribbon. This would work when a person preferred to make two yards of one inch edging instead of a wider piece with the insertion holes in the middle. A beginning lacer may be able to do this, while she may not have the confidence or the bobbins for a wider piece. In this form of garter, the lace can be gathered a bit as it's attached to the ribbon. OR -- Use a curved edging pattern so there is a built in ruffle when the inside edge is attached to the ribbon. In fact, if a curved edging is used, you might not need as much yardage to have a satisfactory ruffle. A curved edging would give the most ruffle for the least bulk. Hmmm...I can see someone combining methods and sewing the curved edging to a single ribbon, then adding the shirring elastic on each side of the ribbon. One last comment. I have also seen garters that have lace on only one side of the ribbon/elastic. There are many possibilities. Use your imagination. Whatever method you use, enjoy the wedding. Alice in Oregon -- where I'm getting ready to teach 7 young girls and 3 parents what bobbin lace is. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bridal Bouquet pattern.
Hello Jean, Yes I have contacted the Lace Guild at the Hollies, I asked them if they had the pattern in any book of JOhn Bull Trophy patterns that they might have produced at the time the bouquet was entered for the competition. I had a feeling that the Lace Guild producd a book of the best patterns or something, I think I might be wrong in my thinking there though. One of the Lace Guild ladies replied to me and said she would ask their librarian if she knew anything about the pattern. I will wait and see what the answer is. I am not a member of any of the lace societies etc., these days. Thankyou for taking the time to write. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. Jean wrote:-> - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lily of the Valley pattern.
Spider Hunters, I googlesd and found thi http://www.e.volve.org.uk/directoryitem.aspxindex=44&item=3123&dataitem=865 \ Could the name be a contact in South Hampton? BarbE s- Original Message - From: Malvary J Cole To: Arachne mailing list Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lily of the Valley pattern. Just went and found the issue of the Lace magazine (#37 Spring 1985) and found a picture of the John Bull Trophy Award (1984) at the English Lace School. There was also a write up about the Itchen Valley Lacemakers group. The wedding bouquet bouquet was worked in cream and apricot: 3 roses with leaves; 17 stephanotis, 14 hyacinth pips, and 5 lily of the valley. 40 members took part and it took them 400 hours. It was made in 50 Sylko thread because there was a wide enough colour range to get a close blending of the colours. There was also an open strip of lace threaded with the ribbon. It says that they were planning to make up a booklet with full instructions - don't know how to find out if that was ever done. Malvary in Ottawa - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lily of the Valley pattern.
Surely someone has that booklet.or the patterns they were going to use. What a neat find that would be. tThat is only a tad over 20 yr ago..someone must still be around.Exciting... BarbE - Original Message - From: Malvary J Cole To: Arachne mailing list Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lily of the Valley pattern. Just went and found the issue of the Lace magazine (#37 Spring 1985) and found a picture of the John Bull Trophy Award (1984) at the English Lace School. There was also a write up about the Itchen Valley Lacemakers group. The wedding bouquet bouquet was worked in cream and apricot: 3 roses with leaves; 17 stephanotis, 14 hyacinth pips, and 5 lily of the valley. 40 members took part and it took them 400 hours. It was made in 50 Sylko thread because there was a wide enough colour range to get a close blending of the colours. There was also an open strip of lace threaded with the ribbon. It says that they were planning to make up a booklet with full instructions - don't know how to find out if that was ever done. Malvary in Ottawa - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bridal Bouquet pattern.
Have you enquired of the UK Lace Guild and other guilds if they have in their library a copy of the booket in which it was published? If so, and you're a member of the guild/society that has it, you might be able to borrow it. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - Original Message - From: Jenny De Angelis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Arachne mailing list Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:46 PM Subject: [lace] Bridal Bouquet pattern. Sue Babbs wrote, <> Hi Sue, As I said in my message the Itchen Valley lace makers no longer have the pattern, which to me seems a bit strange after all the work which must have gone into it. Just to work out the flowers on paper would have taken some time I shold think let alone draw up the pattern draft and then make the actual petals. My only hope seems to be if the Lace Guild can come up with something on the pattern. Maybe they did have the pattern and perhaps hold the copyright on it, if there was a copyright involved. Now that I have thought about it and realise it is no longer available via the lace group I would also like a copy of the whole bouquet not just the Lily of the Valley it contained. It was such a beautiful thing, though I only saw the rough sketch on the front page of the pattern sheets that my friend had. I could imagine what the real thing must have looked like. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lily of the Valley pattern
HI Patsy, I have both of the books you mentioned and have looked in them both. The Floribana book has some lovely designs in it doesn't it?. I bought it form the Scharlaeken people of Brugge when they were at the large Annual lace day for Cataluña one year. Jan of Scharlaeken visits that large event every year and is always mobbed all day with a crowd of customers. My Scottish friend here that I taught to make English Bobbin lace several years ago now, she died last year, used to always be making Joyce Wilmots flowers, as well as lots of Beds and Bucks. She always seemed to making one flower or another and would use them on cards, the daffodils from the book looked very nice on an Easter card. thanks for checking the books for me. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. I have a couple lace flower books and no "Lily of the Valley". In Lace Flowers by Joyce R. Willmot there is a pattern for the Snowdrop flower which is a small flower. Maybe you could substitute it. I also have Floribana by Anny Noben-Slegers but again no Lily of the Valley. That's two books that I have checked for you, I'm sure there are others. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] finishing a garter
HI Nicky, thankyou very much for the idea about using Shirring Elastic for the garter, it sounds a very good way to do it, anything has to be better than the ordinary elastic and trying to hide it behind a length of ribbon, it never seems to work. I have a couple of months to get the garter finished by so will use your idea. I think I even have some white shirring elastic at the bottom of my sewing box. Many Thanks. Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. Hi Jenny Both my husband and I have now made several wedding garters. The method I use for finishing them off is this. I use shirring elastic and run ribbon only through the middle section. The shirring elastic is carefully sewn along both edges of lace next to the middle, once stitched I then carefully pull up the shirring elastic so that the garter is gathered and then knot the ends of shirring elastic and cut off the excess (which I use for other - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lily of the Valley pattern.
Just went and found the issue of the Lace magazine (#37 Spring 1985) and found a picture of the John Bull Trophy Award (1984) at the English Lace School. There was also a write up about the Itchen Valley Lacemakers group. The wedding bouquet bouquet was worked in cream and apricot: 3 roses with leaves; 17 stephanotis, 14 hyacinth pips, and 5 lily of the valley. 40 members took part and it took them 400 hours. It was made in 50 Sylko thread because there was a wide enough colour range to get a close blending of the colours. There was also an open strip of lace threaded with the ribbon. It says that they were planning to make up a booklet with full instructions - don't know how to find out if that was ever done. Malvary in Ottawa - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Bridal Bouquet pattern.
Sue Babbs wrote, <> Hi Sue, As I said in my message the Itchen Valley lace makers no longer have the pattern, which to me seems a bit strange after all the work which must have gone into it. Just to work out the flowers on paper would have taken some time I shold think let alone draw up the pattern draft and then make the actual petals. My only hope seems to be if the Lace Guild can come up with something on the pattern. Maybe they did have the pattern and perhaps hold the copyright on it, if there was a copyright involved. Now that I have thought about it and realise it is no longer available via the lace group I would also like a copy of the whole bouquet not just the Lily of the Valley it contained. It was such a beautiful thing, though I only saw the rough sketch on the front page of the pattern sheets that my friend had. I could imagine what the real thing must have looked like. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lily of the Valley pattern.
Thankyou to both Dee and BarbE, I have the Joyce Wilmot book of Flowers, bought it years ago. But it doesn't have the Lily of the Valley that I was after, the smallest white flower in the book appears to be the stephanotis but that is a bigger than I need. Thankyou Jenny DeAngelis - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lily of the Valley pattern.
Thankyou David, But the flower I am after is not part of a mat it is a little flower on a stem such as you would put in a vase or to decorate a card etc., Thankyou for offering Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Jane's Website Update
To All, Jane Atkinson has updated her website with items from her workshops and trip to the US this past spring. Its interesting to see what the other classes worked on and the design from a piece of bread is most fascinating. Especially to see the development of it from the original source of inspiration to the finished design and how it all came about. It just goes to show you that you can derive inspiration from almost anything. Her website address is HYPERLINK "http://www.lace.nildram.co.uk/html/feedback.htm"http://www.lace.nildram.co. uk/html/feedback.htm. Tina Allen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] lacemaking and RSIs
Jenny, you have to add the www to it. The full address is http://www.lace.nildram.co.uk/ Congratulations on your site, Jane. Stunning stuff. Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ > Hi Jane just tried the web addy and it doesn't take me to your page, is the address > complete? > jenny barron > Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lacemaking and RSIs
Hi Jane just tried the web addy and it doesn't take me to your page, is the address complete? jenny barron Scotland - Original Message From: Jane Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, 10 July, 2006 10:39:59 AM Subject: [lace] lacemaking and RSIs While I'm on, I've wanted to report that I've just updated my website, lace.nildram.co.uk, with a report under 'feedback' on my teaching trip - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lily of the Valley pattern.
Dear Jenny, I have a beautiful pattern for a round mat in fine knitted lace that is perfect Lily of the valley. Could photograph it if you like. David in Ballarat I asked a couple of days ago about a pattern for some Lily of the Valley. I have remembered now where the pattern came from that my friend had some years ago. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] finishing a garter
Hi Jenny Both my husband and I have now made several wedding garters. The method I use for finishing them off is this. I use shirring elastic and run ribbon only through the middle section. The shirring elastic is carefully sewn along both edges of lace next to the middle, once stitched I then carefully pull up the shirring elastic so that the garter is gathered and then knot the ends of shirring elastic and cut off the excess (which I use for other things such as bobble ties for holding two bobbins together). I make sure that there is enough play for the bride to slip the garter on comfortably and if necessary the shirring elastic can always be tightened a little more on the day (I show her how to do it). The ribbon is purely for decoration. Reports back from the various brides (one of which was me) is that the garter has been comfortable to wear as the shirring elastic is much finer than ordinary knicker elastic and it doesn't leave a mark. The garters have stayed up and felt quite secure for the entire day. Disadvantage, it takes a bit more time and effort to oversew the shirring elastic into place, but the effort is worth it and the garter looks good too, no bulky elastic to hide. A picture of one of our garters (and horseshoe) was in a fairly recent edition of The Lacemaker newsletter of the Lace Cirle, the one giving a write up about their 2005 AGM held in Norfolk. Hope that this is of help to you. best wishes Nicky in Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lacemaking and RSIs
Dear All, I absolutely agree with Jane, because I too am a physiotherapist. Can I just add one warning? Pilates as taught properly is very good for you, but a lot of people teaching 'Pilates' are teaching a watered down version a best and many people are getting injured in such classes. A Pilates teacher should have qualifications, it is a long course, and if they can't show you a certificate or some proof, be very wary. Imbalance in the trapezius muscles is very common and can be easily avoided by pulling the shoulder blades down and in as Jane described and having regular breaks from your lacemaking. There is a great little book out called Rx for Quilters, Susan Delany Mech, 2000, ISBN 1-57120-092-4. Okay, we're not quilters, but it gives you so much information about posture, common injuries and exercises, it is well worth it. --- Jane Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, folks. > > Forgive me for lurking on the ether for some months > without making a > contribution to Arachne, having joined after I got > back from America, > but > you usually cover a subject in depth without needing > any addition from > me. > > However, something caught my eye when I turned on my > computer this > morning, > having just been up to plant seedlings on my > allotment on a nice, soggy > day. > The comment was: I hadn't realized > lace making could be so tough on the body. > > Well, as someone who's suffered a fair share of RSI, > and torn shoulders > - > not all of it, but some of it, caused by lacemaking > - I think I can say > that > lacemaking is tough on the body, as we often use the > wrong muscles. > Two > physiotherapists commented when working on me that > the muscles in my > back > were out of balance - the ones that should operate > the arms are the > lower > traps (trapesius, I think) below the shoulder blade, > but the strong > ones in > my shoulders were the upper traps across the top. > > I was given exercises to retrain them, and the thing > that sorted out my > RSI > was good posture; when we lean over a lace pillow, > we automatically use > the > wrong muscles when we shift our weight forwards. > > Luckily, one of the physios was a close friend, and > I asked her if > there > were some exercises I could do to keep myself in > good shape, and she > recommended Pilates. This establishes core > stability around the waist > and > exercises and stretches individual muscles so that, > if you persevere, > everything should work right. I did it for quite a > while before other > life > got in the way, and will go back to it when I can. > > In the meanwhile, I use the allotment to exercise > the muscles that I > don't > use in lacemaking. As someone coming in for > arthritis, too, I had a > long > session last year with an occupational therapist, > and she saw the > allotment > as a good way of exercising 'gross motor' muscles - > when I get up there > in > the Spring and start clearing weeds and building > compost, I do feel so > much > better for it. And it's useful and satisfying > exercise - my edible > Pilates. > > What it doesn't exactly help with are the arthritic > hands - but you > can't > have everything. There I was told to cut my work > load by half; pretty > well > impossible although I did cut out one or two things > that others could > do. > > Stand straight and tall, and put one hand on the > other shoulder so you > can > feel the muscles; then lift up the free arm and see > if you can feel the > muscles moving. You shouldn't, really! Pilates > will teach you to > engage > the lower traps by holding your shoulder blades > down, releasing the > tension > in the upper muscles. > > I have arrived at a Lace Guild Convention in upper > back agony, which I > put > down to hefting heavy teaching bags using under-used > muscles. You do > have > to keep fit for lacemaking; and for the travel that > comes as a lovely > bonus > (a recent trip to the 10th International Vamberk > Festival really showed > that, as a stressful journey was followed by a > migraine, not something > I > usually suffer from. There, I was fortunate in > sharing a room with a > skilful masseuse, who soon put me right - but that > is not something one > can > normally rely on!). > > All I can say is: if you want to keep lacemaking, > keep fit. > > While I'm on, I've wanted to report that I've just > updated my website, > lace.nildram.co.uk, with a report under 'feedback' > on my teaching trip > to > Chicago and Philadelphia in the Spring. And having > just written about > Vamberk for a web magazine, I guess I'd better do > something about that, > too - just have to get some lace made first. > > Best wishes to you all, and thanks for fascinating > reading, Jane > Atkinson > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Rochelle Sutherland & Lachl
[lace] lacemaking and RSIs
Hi, folks. Forgive me for lurking on the ether for some months without making a contribution to Arachne, having joined after I got back from America, but you usually cover a subject in depth without needing any addition from me. However, something caught my eye when I turned on my computer this morning, having just been up to plant seedlings on my allotment on a nice, soggy day. The comment was: I hadn't realized lace making could be so tough on the body. Well, as someone who's suffered a fair share of RSI, and torn shoulders - not all of it, but some of it, caused by lacemaking - I think I can say that lacemaking is tough on the body, as we often use the wrong muscles. Two physiotherapists commented when working on me that the muscles in my back were out of balance - the ones that should operate the arms are the lower traps (trapesius, I think) below the shoulder blade, but the strong ones in my shoulders were the upper traps across the top. I was given exercises to retrain them, and the thing that sorted out my RSI was good posture; when we lean over a lace pillow, we automatically use the wrong muscles when we shift our weight forwards. Luckily, one of the physios was a close friend, and I asked her if there were some exercises I could do to keep myself in good shape, and she recommended Pilates. This establishes core stability around the waist and exercises and stretches individual muscles so that, if you persevere, everything should work right. I did it for quite a while before other life got in the way, and will go back to it when I can. In the meanwhile, I use the allotment to exercise the muscles that I don't use in lacemaking. As someone coming in for arthritis, too, I had a long session last year with an occupational therapist, and she saw the allotment as a good way of exercising 'gross motor' muscles - when I get up there in the Spring and start clearing weeds and building compost, I do feel so much better for it. And it's useful and satisfying exercise - my edible Pilates. What it doesn't exactly help with are the arthritic hands - but you can't have everything. There I was told to cut my work load by half; pretty well impossible although I did cut out one or two things that others could do. Stand straight and tall, and put one hand on the other shoulder so you can feel the muscles; then lift up the free arm and see if you can feel the muscles moving. You shouldn't, really! Pilates will teach you to engage the lower traps by holding your shoulder blades down, releasing the tension in the upper muscles. I have arrived at a Lace Guild Convention in upper back agony, which I put down to hefting heavy teaching bags using under-used muscles. You do have to keep fit for lacemaking; and for the travel that comes as a lovely bonus (a recent trip to the 10th International Vamberk Festival really showed that, as a stressful journey was followed by a migraine, not something I usually suffer from. There, I was fortunate in sharing a room with a skilful masseuse, who soon put me right - but that is not something one can normally rely on!). All I can say is: if you want to keep lacemaking, keep fit. While I'm on, I've wanted to report that I've just updated my website, lace.nildram.co.uk, with a report under 'feedback' on my teaching trip to Chicago and Philadelphia in the Spring. And having just written about Vamberk for a web magazine, I guess I'd better do something about that, too - just have to get some lace made first. Best wishes to you all, and thanks for fascinating reading, Jane Atkinson - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
