mac os server and remote desk top

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi List,

I've got a mac mini running sierra server which I'm setting up for a number of 
different things.

One of which is VPN which is done but still not yet working.

The other is Remote Desktop which I'd like to be able to do from my MBA

Now on the server I have the screen sharing, remote log in and remote 
management all enabled and from within my network at home I can VNC on to the 
server fine.

But as Voiceover is not available to me through the VNC connection if on a say 
mac book to mac book
But Voiceover is meant to be available from Mac OS Server to the remote 
connection,

Yet I can't figure how to get this working,
Is anyone able to advise on how voiceover can be setup to work through the 
server to MBA remote connection.

Any help would be appreciated.


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RE: Black Friday: Deal apps can help save you money on holiday shopping

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mark and others,

 Please tell me 
Other than a Friday the 13th 
What the heck is Black Friday?

 We have black Fridays when I'ts a 13th of the month on a Friday but this isn't 
a big shopping sales day or holiday.

What the heck is this one you guys have?

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On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2017 7:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Black Friday: Deal apps can help save you money on holiday shopping

Best apps to save you money over Black Friday and beyond Marc Saltzman
Flipp: All of your circulars (flyers) and coupons in one place, along with a 
smart shopping list, loyalty cards, rebate info, and more. (Photo: Flipp) We 
all have that friend who always seems to get the best deals while shopping.
Oh, you know the one. You spend $100 on designer jeans and they seem to find 
the exact same pair for $60. Their 4KTV is bigger, thinner, and smarter yet you 
paid the same amount. And they remind you of this fact. All the time.
Well, perhaps it's because they're using apps that can save money while 
shopping online or at retail. It's about time you got in the game. As we 
approach Black Friday and Cyber Monday, here's a look at some recommended 
deal-sniffing downloads for your iOS or Android smartphone or tablet. More:
Black Friday 2017: What to buy, what to skip More: The best Black Friday deals 
you can get right now More: 4 Black Friday facts retailers don't want you to 
know Ebates: Earn cash back on all your online purchases with this popular app. 
More than 2,500 stores and marketplaces are supported. (Photo:
Ebates) The premise is simple: shop where you already like to shop, but get 
cash back after your purchases, whether you opt to pay by check or a PayPal 
deposit. Be aware the percentage varies depending on the online retailer or 
marketplace, and there are more than 2,000 to choose from, including Amazon, 
Walmart, Macy's, Target, eBay, Kohl's, Best Buy, American Eagle, Old Navy, and 
Groupon, to name a few. The app will also notify you of sales and special 
offers, and there are in-store coupons and promo codes, too. As added incentive 
for signing up for a free Ebates account, you'll get a $10 bonus when you make 
your first purchase, plus you'll earn $50 if you invite two friends to join. 
Flipp: All of your circulars (flyers) and coupons in one place, along with a 
smart shopping list, loyalty cards, rebate info, and more. (Photo: Flipp) 
Another "must have" mobile companion, Flipp aggregates all your local circulars 
(flyers) in one place now with more than 1,000 popular retailers whether you 
want to browse through weekly ads or search for something specific by keyword. 
When you land on a product you've had your eye on, Flipp looks to match the 
deal with coupons, to save even more cash. Whether you're buying tech over 
Black Friday or food to cook over the holidays, the app also features a 
"discount slider," so you can select how much of a deal you want, such as only 
showing you items discounted by 40% or greater. My favorite feature is a 
"smart" shopping list, that automatically lists nearby retailers with the best 
deals, based on what on your list.
Flipp also holds all your store loyalty cards in one place, so you can show the 
app at checkout, plus there's support for rebates, too. Updated this week, 
Shopkick rewards you with free gift cards for stores like Target, Walmart, 
Amazon, Sephora, Starbucks, and more. To get going, open the Shopkick app while 
you're at the mall, and you'll start to earn points
("kicks") for simply walking into select stores, scanning products (like a 
retail scavenger hunt), and purchasing products (submit your receipt as proof). 
You can also open the Shopkick app when you're lounging at home, as you can 
receive kicks for virtually "visiting" a store or making an online purchase. 
All the kicks you earn could be redeemed for gift cards or products (from about 
20 to choose from), or you can donate your kicks to charity. Rather than 
scouring the web for the best deals, DealNews has an "obsessive" team of deal 
experts that looks for the best prices on the biggest brands, and then 
publishes the 300 best deals and coupons (and in some cases, freebies) to the 
DealNews app. And it's not just high-tech toys, like tablets and laptops, but 
also apparel, home décor items, and more.
Along with letting you peruse the list of regularly updated deals, this free 
app also offers alerts, so you're instantly notified when something you like 
goes on sale. Other features include cloud syncing (so you can shop on your 
phone or tablet but pay later when on your laptop), the ability to share deals 
with family and friends (via email, instant messaging or social media), and 
online and in-store coupons (divided by retailer). Whether you're looking to 
buy new or heavily discounted "previously enjoyed" items, you can save quite a 

changing the rota on a mac mini without a touch pad.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

 Got a crazy one for you.

 Using my apple wifi keyboard with my mac mini server,

 I get to a name that I can't tell the correct spelling of and need to check 
character by character,

 But with the keyboard I have no option to change the rota to those options.

 I have no screen connected not that it would help me, 
And I have no touch pad to make the changes in the rota that way.

 How do I change the rota options with only my wifi keyboard?

Cheers for any assistance.

Simon F

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RE: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Cliffton,

 How big is this Logitech keyboard?

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On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2017 12:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

I like the logitech BT keyboard, make sure you get the 811 model, not the 810, 
although it probably don’t matter if your just using IOS.  This keyboard can be 
paired to 3 devices, and works perfectly with any IOS device as well as the 
appleTV

> On Nov 7, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> If I wanted a small portible keyboard I would want the F and J marked.  I 
> stopped looking for keyboards long ago because I couldn't find a mark on the 
> F and J.
> 
> I am a touch typist and when I started typing at school we were taught that 
> the F and J was marked which made it easier for VI people.  I was taught over 
> 30 years ago so that shows you what age I might be!  All though I am not 60 
> so you can guess and come to your conclusions.
> 
> I at present use my small Focus 14 as a keyboard.
> 
> So if anyone knows of a good portible keyboard (not apple as it's too big) a 
> small one which has the F and J marked and is made of metal (none of those 
> cheap plastic ones thanks) I might be interested!
> 
> Thank you and please of course.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 7 Nov 2017, at 19:30, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> This icleverr one is very popular if you have access to amazon.com.
>> http://amzn.to/2tcMzn8
>> 
>> It folds to a size just a little bigger than a passport, unfolds to a full 
>> sized keyboard, comes with a cary case, and pairs to one ios, one android, 
>> and one windows device all at once, allowing you to switch back and fourth.
>> 
>> Enjoyu,
>> 
>> Erik
>> 
>> 
>> On November 7, 2017 1:58:01 PM Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have finally decided to get a small Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my 
>> iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I 
>> loved it. I’d be looking for something like that something small and 
>> portable. Does anyone have any recommendations?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Erik & Donna,

Thanks for this I'm looking for something like this also.

 I was hoping for something smaller but it is a starting point.

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Subject: Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

Hi Donna,

This icleverr one is very popular if you have access to amazon.com.
http://amzn.to/2tcMzn8

It folds to a size just a little bigger than a passport, unfolds to a full 
sized keyboard, comes with a cary case, and pairs to one ios, one android, and 
one windows device all at once, allowing you to switch back and fourth.

Enjoyu,

Erik


On November 7, 2017 1:58:01 PM Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi all,

I have finally decided to get a small Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my 
iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I loved 
it. I’d be looking for something like that something small and portable. Does 
anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

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ioS 11's autocorrection issue: How to fix A problem on iPhone?

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The iPhone has an autocorrect problem. Here's how to fix it Brett Molina ,
USA TODAY The new iPhone 8 Plus is displayed in the showroom after the new
product announcement at the Steve Jobs Theater in Cupertino, Calif. Some
iPhone users are reporting big drains on battery life with the new iOS 11
upgrade. (Photo: AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez,) Are you having a tough time
typing a lowercase "i" on the iPhone lately? It's not just you. Apple said
some users are having issues related to the autocorrect feature, where it
will automatically correct text if it's misspelled. For an unexplained
reason, in iOS 11, the mobile software update launched in September,
autocorrect replaces a lowercase "i" to an "A" with a question mark in a
box. It's appears widespread, judging from reactions on Twitter: does anyone
else phone auto correct the letter 'i' to A ? No autocorrect eye did not
mean I? pic.twitter.com/sG1iZXWdxK According to a support page on Apple's
website , the autocorrect issue will be fixed in a future software update.
However, there is a workaround to avoid this: 1. Go to your general settings
(tap the Settings app, then General). From there, pick Keyboard, then Text
Replacement. 2. Tap the "+" to add a new entry. 3. In the phrase portion,
type a capital "I. In the shortcut section, type a lowercase "i. Of course,
if the iPhone's autocorrect is still annoying, there are other ways to tame
it . Follow Brett Molina on Twitter: @brettmolina23 . 

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Black Friday: Deal apps can help save you money on holiday shopping

[M. Taylor]

Best apps to save you money over Black Friday and beyond Marc Saltzman
Flipp: All of your circulars (flyers) and coupons in one place, along with a
smart shopping list, loyalty cards, rebate info, and more. (Photo: Flipp) We
all have that friend who always seems to get the best deals while shopping.
Oh, you know the one. You spend $100 on designer jeans and they seem to find
the exact same pair for $60. Their 4KTV is bigger, thinner, and smarter yet
you paid the same amount. And they remind you of this fact. All the time.
Well, perhaps it's because they're using apps that can save money while
shopping online or at retail. It's about time you got in the game. As we
approach Black Friday and Cyber Monday, here's a look at some recommended
deal-sniffing downloads for your iOS or Android smartphone or tablet. More:
Black Friday 2017: What to buy, what to skip More: The best Black Friday
deals you can get right now More: 4 Black Friday facts retailers don't want
you to know Ebates: Earn cash back on all your online purchases with this
popular app. More than 2,500 stores and marketplaces are supported. (Photo:
Ebates) The premise is simple: shop where you already like to shop, but get
cash back after your purchases, whether you opt to pay by check or a PayPal
deposit. Be aware the percentage varies depending on the online retailer or
marketplace, and there are more than 2,000 to choose from, including Amazon,
Walmart, Macy's, Target, eBay, Kohl's, Best Buy, American Eagle, Old Navy,
and Groupon, to name a few. The app will also notify you of sales and
special offers, and there are in-store coupons and promo codes, too. As
added incentive for signing up for a free Ebates account, you'll get a $10
bonus when you make your first purchase, plus you'll earn $50 if you invite
two friends to join. Flipp: All of your circulars (flyers) and coupons in
one place, along with a smart shopping list, loyalty cards, rebate info, and
more. (Photo: Flipp) Another "must have" mobile companion, Flipp aggregates
all your local circulars (flyers) in one place now with more than 1,000
popular retailers whether you want to browse through weekly ads or search
for something specific by keyword. When you land on a product you've had
your eye on, Flipp looks to match the deal with coupons, to save even more
cash. Whether you're buying tech over Black Friday or food to cook over the
holidays, the app also features a "discount slider," so you can select how
much of a deal you want, such as only showing you items discounted by 40% or
greater. My favorite feature is a "smart" shopping list, that automatically
lists nearby retailers with the best deals, based on what on your list.
Flipp also holds all your store loyalty cards in one place, so you can show
the app at checkout, plus there's support for rebates, too. Updated this
week, Shopkick rewards you with free gift cards for stores like Target,
Walmart, Amazon, Sephora, Starbucks, and more. To get going, open the
Shopkick app while you're at the mall, and you'll start to earn points
("kicks") for simply walking into select stores, scanning products (like a
retail scavenger hunt), and purchasing products (submit your receipt as
proof). You can also open the Shopkick app when you're lounging at home, as
you can receive kicks for virtually "visiting" a store or making an online
purchase. All the kicks you earn could be redeemed for gift cards or
products (from about 20 to choose from), or you can donate your kicks to
charity. Rather than scouring the web for the best deals, DealNews has an
"obsessive" team of deal experts that looks for the best prices on the
biggest brands, and then publishes the 300 best deals and coupons (and in
some cases, freebies) to the DealNews app. And it's not just high-tech toys,
like tablets and laptops, but also apparel, home décor items, and more.
Along with letting you peruse the list of regularly updated deals, this free
app also offers alerts, so you're instantly notified when something you like
goes on sale. Other features include cloud syncing (so you can shop on your
phone or tablet but pay later when on your laptop), the ability to share
deals with family and friends (via email, instant messaging or social
media), and online and in-store coupons (divided by retailer). Whether
you're looking to buy new or heavily discounted "previously enjoyed" items,
you can save quite a bit by considering an online marketplace like eBay.
>From tech and clothing to cars and jewelry, the eBay app makes it easy to
search, browse, bid, or buy. And, hey, the product is shipped to your door,
too. The app also lets you compare prices, manage auctions or purchases,
message sellers, view shipping info, and more. Of course, a great way of
saving money while shopping is to sell your unwanted items on eBay, as well,
and then use that cash towards something you desire. You can now scan your
items' barcodes to set up a page for the product in minutes. The app is
available in multiple 

RE: Apple TV and iTunes Library

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

 I have to admit I still or did on my gen 4 use the older of the remotes as it 
was / is easier to use / navogate  around with it.
 I personally think the gen 4 is the nicer device, and hey, I'm watching it and 
I'm blind, why does 4 K display matter,
 The sound still comes through the same sonos play  speakers.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2017 4:47 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

Simon,
Guess I will keep my ATV 3rd and enjoy my content that is now there. 
Restored the iTunes backup, did nothing any different than before.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/7/2017 1:00 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> I’ve just recently got the apple tv4k and I gotta admit I’m not a fan 
> of it’s interfaces.
> 
> It seems to be slower than the aTV 4gen
> 
> But IOS 11 seems to be really screwy
> 
> It doesn’t like moving between contents within apps, and It seems to 
> want me to double click on things rather than the old single click on 
> a show for streaming.
> 
> As for accessing my content it definitely is slower but that may be 
> server related.
> 
> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *David Griffith
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:48 AM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Apple TV and iTunes Library
> 
> I have no experience of using the Apple TV but I do experience from 
> time to time a curious lag in iTunes syching and communicating  across 
> devices. For example my Windows machine and my Mac.
> 
> Generally this gets resolves after time but it may take a day for the 
> machines to catch upwith each other. I have speculated that this slow 
> response may be a symptom of the Apple Servers struggling.
> 
> Maybe 24 hours will sort it.
> 
> David Griffitgh
> 
> My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
> http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
> My Blind hammer Blog
> https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
> 
> *From: *E.T. 
> *Sent: *06 November 2017 16:12
> *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> *Subject: *Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library
> 
>      Holding the option key while opening iTunes was my first step. 
> Also
> 
> went into preferences to select the new location. The library is
> 
> available on the Mac but the ATV does not see it. Unplugged the box,
> 
> still not working.
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> 
>     "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> 
>     mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> 
>     our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> 
>     and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> 
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 11/6/2017 3:14 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> My own solution was a little different.  Rather than merely changing 
>> iTunes to the new location from the old, I pressed the CMD key when 
>> launching iTunes.  This forced iTunes to ask me for a library 
>> location.  I pointed  the location path to my external USB drive and 
>> I made sure it took
> which it did.  One important note to bear in mind.  When setting up 
> your location you want to work it so that the path is exactly like 
> what you see below.
> 
>> 
> 
>>   External Drive (equals the actual name of your external drive) sub folder 
>>path if any and finally, the actual folder named “iTunes”  To give you the 
>>path example I myself am using:
> 
>> 
> 
>> External Data/External Music/iTunes
> 
>> 
> 
>> HTh.
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
>> 
> 
>> Sincerely,
> 
>> 
> 
>> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> 
> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 11:59 PM, M. Taylor >> > wrote:
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> Hello E.T.,
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> I’m not certain but, if memory serves, the last time I relocated my iTunes 
>>> media I:
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> 1.
> 
>>> Made certain that I could play all of the media in iTunes by selecting a 
>>> few items and playing them back on my computer.
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> 2.
> 
>>> Reboot my computer and Start iTunes.
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> 3.
> 
>>> Power off my Apple TV by unplugging it for a minute or so, then rebooting 
>>> Apple TV.
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> After that, all worked as expected.
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> Mark
> 
>>> 
> 
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Re: Wow, using the track pad to get back to Mac!

[E.T.]

Sharon,
   If you want a list of gestures to use on the Mac's trackpad, the 
VoiceOver Getting Started is the resource that can be found at the below 
link.




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On 11/7/2017 7:15 PM, Sharon Hooley wrote:

Hi,

I’m amazed!  By using seeing AI on my phone, I managed to get to a place where 
I could turn Voiceover on with the usual keyboard command!  I’m not sure if I 
had pin-pointed to the right spot, but now I want to ask, is there a pattern of 
taps and swipes I could do from memory, going through the motions?  Any input 
would be much appreciated.

Thanks,



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Wow, using the track pad to get back to Mac!

[Sharon Hooley]

Hi,

I’m amazed!  By using seeing AI on my phone, I managed to get to a place where 
I could turn Voiceover on with the usual keyboard command!  I’m not sure if I 
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Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

[Donna Goodin]

thanks, Erik, I'll check this out.  Ideally, I liked to get my hands on it 
before I buy it, but maybe that will not be an option.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Nov 7, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> This icleverr one is very popular if you have access to amazon.com.
> http://amzn.to/2tcMzn8
> 
> It folds to a size just a little bigger than a passport, unfolds to a full 
> sized keyboard, comes with a cary case, and pairs to one ios, one android, 
> and one windows device all at once, allowing you to switch back and fourth.
> 
> Enjoyu,
> 
> Erik
> 
> 
> On November 7, 2017 1:58:01 PM Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have finally decided to get a small Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my 
> iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I 
> loved it. I’d be looking for something like that something small and 
> portable. Does anyone have any recommendations?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

[Donna Goodin]

Kliph,

Does that model fold up?
Thanks,,
Donna
> On Nov 7, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> I like the logitech BT keyboard, make sure you get the 811 model, not the 
> 810, although it probably don’t matter if your just using IOS.  This keyboard 
> can be paired to 3 devices, and works perfectly with any IOS device as well 
> as the appleTV
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> If I wanted a small portible keyboard I would want the F and J marked.  I 
>> stopped looking for keyboards long ago because I couldn't find a mark on the 
>> F and J.
>> 
>> I am a touch typist and when I started typing at school we were taught that 
>> the F and J was marked which made it easier for VI people.  I was taught 
>> over 30 years ago so that shows you what age I might be!  All though I am 
>> not 60 so you can guess and come to your conclusions.
>> 
>> I at present use my small Focus 14 as a keyboard.
>> 
>> So if anyone knows of a good portible keyboard (not apple as it's too big) a 
>> small one which has the F and J marked and is made of metal (none of those 
>> cheap plastic ones thanks) I might be interested!
>> 
>> Thank you and please of course.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 7 Nov 2017, at 19:30, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> This icleverr one is very popular if you have access to amazon.com.
>>> http://amzn.to/2tcMzn8
>>> 
>>> It folds to a size just a little bigger than a passport, unfolds to a full 
>>> sized keyboard, comes with a cary case, and pairs to one ios, one android, 
>>> and one windows device all at once, allowing you to switch back and fourth.
>>> 
>>> Enjoyu,
>>> 
>>> Erik
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On November 7, 2017 1:58:01 PM Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have finally decided to get a small Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my 
>>> iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I 
>>> loved it. I’d be looking for something like that something small and 
>>> portable. Does anyone have any recommendations?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

[Kliphton Miller]

I like the logitech BT keyboard, make sure you get the 811 model, not the 810, 
although it probably don’t matter if your just using IOS.  This keyboard can be 
paired to 3 devices, and works perfectly with any IOS device as well as the 
appleTV

> On Nov 7, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> If I wanted a small portible keyboard I would want the F and J marked.  I 
> stopped looking for keyboards long ago because I couldn't find a mark on the 
> F and J.
> 
> I am a touch typist and when I started typing at school we were taught that 
> the F and J was marked which made it easier for VI people.  I was taught over 
> 30 years ago so that shows you what age I might be!  All though I am not 60 
> so you can guess and come to your conclusions.
> 
> I at present use my small Focus 14 as a keyboard.
> 
> So if anyone knows of a good portible keyboard (not apple as it's too big) a 
> small one which has the F and J marked and is made of metal (none of those 
> cheap plastic ones thanks) I might be interested!
> 
> Thank you and please of course.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 7 Nov 2017, at 19:30, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> This icleverr one is very popular if you have access to amazon.com.
>> http://amzn.to/2tcMzn8
>> 
>> It folds to a size just a little bigger than a passport, unfolds to a full 
>> sized keyboard, comes with a cary case, and pairs to one ios, one android, 
>> and one windows device all at once, allowing you to switch back and fourth.
>> 
>> Enjoyu,
>> 
>> Erik
>> 
>> 
>> On November 7, 2017 1:58:01 PM Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have finally decided to get a small Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my 
>> iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I 
>> loved it. I’d be looking for something like that something small and 
>> portable. Does anyone have any recommendations?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Row 1 Expanded

[E.T.]

   In macOS Sierra, there exists an option to turn off the "row 1 
added" announcement in Voiceover Utility. Its in macOS High Sierra too 
but it does not affect the "row 1 expanded" that one hears in Disk 
Utility and probably other areas. Has anyone found an option to turn 
this off?


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Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

[Erik Burggraaf]

I have never seen a keyboard without the f marked, except for a few build 
into old phones that came with thumb keyboards.  If the markings are too 
faint for you, you can always get some sticky dots and glue them on. That's 
what I did for my Ericsson phone, which was the last handset I own that had 
one of those built-in keyboards.


Inclusive Android has a few of these folding keyboards. They are all made 
out of metal. Although they were reviewed for use with Android devices, all 
of them work with iPhone as well. The iclever is a favorite of course, 
because of its ability to connect multiple devices, but I don't think it's 
currently available inside the US, and the other one works just as well.
But I don't think it's currently available inside the US, and the other one 
works just as well.




On November 7, 2017 5:50:10 PM Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

If I wanted a small portible keyboard I would want the F and J marked.  I 
stopped looking for keyboards long ago because I couldn't find a mark on 
the F and J.


I am a touch typist and when I started typing at school we were taught that 
the F and J was marked which made it easier for VI people.  I was taught 
over 30 years ago so that shows you what age I might be!  All though I am 
not 60 so you can guess and come to your conclusions.


I at present use my small Focus 14 as a keyboard.

So if anyone knows of a good portible keyboard (not apple as it's too big) 
a small one which has the F and J marked and is made of metal (none of 
those cheap plastic ones thanks) I might be interested!


Thank you and please of course.

Kawal.

On 7 Nov 2017, at 19:30, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Hi Donna,

This icleverr one is very popular if you have access to amazon.com.
http://amzn.to/2tcMzn8

It folds to a size just a little bigger than a passport, unfolds to a full 
sized keyboard, comes with a cary case, and pairs to one ios, one android, 
and one windows device all at once, allowing you to switch back and fourth.


Enjoyu,

Erik


On November 7, 2017 1:58:01 PM Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi all,

I have finally decided to get a small Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my 
iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I 
loved it. I’d be looking for something like that something small and 
portable. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

If I wanted a small portible keyboard I would want the F and J marked.  I 
stopped looking for keyboards long ago because I couldn't find a mark on the F 
and J.

I am a touch typist and when I started typing at school we were taught that the 
F and J was marked which made it easier for VI people.  I was taught over 30 
years ago so that shows you what age I might be!  All though I am not 60 so you 
can guess and come to your conclusions.

I at present use my small Focus 14 as a keyboard.

So if anyone knows of a good portible keyboard (not apple as it's too big) a 
small one which has the F and J marked and is made of metal (none of those 
cheap plastic ones thanks) I might be interested!

Thank you and please of course.

Kawal.
> On 7 Nov 2017, at 19:30, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> This icleverr one is very popular if you have access to amazon.com.
> http://amzn.to/2tcMzn8
> 
> It folds to a size just a little bigger than a passport, unfolds to a full 
> sized keyboard, comes with a cary case, and pairs to one ios, one android, 
> and one windows device all at once, allowing you to switch back and fourth.
> 
> Enjoyu,
> 
> Erik
> 
> 
> On November 7, 2017 1:58:01 PM Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have finally decided to get a small Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my 
> iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I 
> loved it. I’d be looking for something like that something small and 
> portable. Does anyone have any recommendations?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi Donna,

This icleverr one is very popular if you have access to amazon.com.
http://amzn.to/2tcMzn8

It folds to a size just a little bigger than a passport, unfolds to a full 
sized keyboard, comes with a cary case, and pairs to one ios, one android, 
and one windows device all at once, allowing you to switch back and fourth.


Enjoyu,

Erik


On November 7, 2017 1:58:01 PM Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi all,

I have finally decided to get a small Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my 
iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I 
loved it. I’d be looking for something like that something small and 
portable. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks,
Donna

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Recommendation for a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my iPhone

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I have finally decided to get a small Bluetooth keyboard to pair with my 
iPhone. I once used an apple keyboard that went with the iPad mini, and I loved 
it. I’d be looking for something like that something small and portable. Does 
anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks,
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Re: Counting my Money

[Ramy Moustafa]

Thanks so much for your  Suggestions
WIll gona try them


On 11/7/17, E.T.  wrote:
> Ramy,
> You gotta start somewhere. If you have Numbers, start there and look
> at the provided templates.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 11/7/2017 1:12 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> but I must do a formula and so on?
>> I was searching for something that I can enter full details and it
>> gave me  what I got and what I spent during a period of time
>>
>>
>> On 11/7/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> What about numbers or Ms Excel?
>>> Just a spread sheet
>>> Would that not work for you
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
>>> Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 8:59 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Counting my Money
>>>
>>> Hi Dear:
>>> Thanks so much
>>> but this is not my question.
>>> am askng for an app to calculate my Income and all my money through the
>>> month.
>>>
>>> Do you know any app that can do this?
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for your interest
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/6/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
 Hello Ramy,

 Currently, I use an app called Money Reader on my Mac to read money.

 I don't remember the name of the company but just type in Money
 Reader, in the App Store Search field and it should come up.  I use it
 almost everyday.


 If memory serves, it's not free but very reasonable.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
 Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 1:09 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Counting my Money

 Hello all:

 I'm inneed for an APp on mac that can count my incoming and outgoing
 money.
 I tried on Applevis but may be am not using the correct search words.
 so is there a good app that can do this? and it's accessibility is ok?
 also it will be better if it can sync the data to Iphone to be able to
 write if I did anything without my laptop with me.

 THanks in advance.


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Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

[E.T.]

   :) It only took me 3 days to fix it. And about 4-5 hours to restore. 
Oh it was full moon this weekend... Heh.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/7/2017 9:51 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

No, you don't need to at all.  It was just a question to help debug things.  It 
looks like you've handled it already, though.  Glad I waited long enough to not 
have to contribute much :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 7, 2017, at 10:22, E.T.  wrote:

Tim,
   I had done all that and as a last resort, I restored from a backup to start 
over and doing nothing different, it worked this time.

   I do not subscribe to either Apple Music or Match, not sure I need to.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/7/2017 7:47 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi ET,
Try opening iTunes, then up to the File menu, down to Library, then choose 
either Organize or Consolidate Library.  Either or both to see if iTunes begins 
to recognize your library on the Mac first.  A side question, do you subscribe 
to either Apple Music or iTunes Match and thus have a Cloud based library?
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Nov 6, 2017, at 16:57, E.T.  wrote:
   Turns out not to be the Apple TV. iTunes 12.7 is not seeing my content, none 
of it. Its all there but its not associating the content with my library. I 
tested buy moving some home videos then copying back to the Automatically Add 
folder. That works.
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 11/6/2017 2:47 PM, David Griffith wrote:

I have no experience of using the Apple TV but I do experience from time to 
time a curious lag in iTunes syching and communicating  across devices. For 
example my Windows machine and my Mac.
Generally this gets resolves after time but it may take a day for the machines 
to catch upwith each other. I have speculated that this slow response may be a 
symptom of the Apple Servers struggling.
Maybe 24 hours will sort it.
David Griffitgh
My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
*From: *E.T. 
*Sent: *06 November 2017 16:12
*To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
*Subject: *Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library
 Holding the option key while opening iTunes was my first step. Also
went into preferences to select the new location. The library is
available on the Mac but the ATV does not see it. Unplugged the box,
still not working.
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 11/6/2017 3:14 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:

My own solution was a little different.  Rather than merely changing iTunes to 
the new location from the old, I pressed the CMD key when launching iTunes.  
This forced iTunes to ask me for a library location.  I pointed the location 
path to my external USB drive and I made sure it took which it did.  One 
important note to bear in mind.  When setting up your location you want to work 
it so that the path is exactly like what you see below.

   External Drive (equals the actual name of your external drive) sub folder 
path if any and finally, the actual folder named “iTunes”  To give you the path 
example I myself am using:

External Data/External Music/iTunes

HTh.


Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray


On Nov 5, 2017, at 11:59 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello E.T.,

I’m not certain but, if memory serves, the last time I relocated my iTunes 
media I:

1.
Made certain that I could play all of the media in iTunes by selecting a few 
items and playing them back on my computer.

2.
Reboot my computer and Start iTunes.

3.
Power off my Apple TV by unplugging it for a minute or so, then rebooting Apple 
TV.

After that, all worked as expected.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:53 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Apple TV and iTunes Library

 Over 

Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

No, you don't need to at all.  It was just a question to help debug things.  It 
looks like you've handled it already, though.  Glad I waited long enough to not 
have to contribute much :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 7, 2017, at 10:22, E.T.  wrote:

Tim,
  I had done all that and as a last resort, I restored from a backup to start 
over and doing nothing different, it worked this time.

  I do not subscribe to either Apple Music or Match, not sure I need to.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/7/2017 7:47 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi ET,
> Try opening iTunes, then up to the File menu, down to Library, then choose 
> either Organize or Consolidate Library.  Either or both to see if iTunes 
> begins to recognize your library on the Mac first.  A side question, do you 
> subscribe to either Apple Music or iTunes Match and thus have a Cloud based 
> library?
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 16:57, E.T.  wrote:
>   Turns out not to be the Apple TV. iTunes 12.7 is not seeing my content, 
> none of it. Its all there but its not associating the content with my 
> library. I tested buy moving some home videos then copying back to the 
> Automatically Add folder. That works.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> On 11/6/2017 2:47 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>> I have no experience of using the Apple TV but I do experience from time to 
>> time a curious lag in iTunes syching and communicating  across devices. For 
>> example my Windows machine and my Mac.
>> Generally this gets resolves after time but it may take a day for the 
>> machines to catch upwith each other. I have speculated that this slow 
>> response may be a symptom of the Apple Servers struggling.
>> Maybe 24 hours will sort it.
>> David Griffitgh
>> My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
>> http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
>> My Blind hammer Blog
>> https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
>> *From: *E.T. 
>> *Sent: *06 November 2017 16:12
>> *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> *Subject: *Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library
>> Holding the option key while opening iTunes was my first step. Also
>> went into preferences to select the new location. The library is
>> available on the Mac but the ATV does not see it. Unplugged the box,
>> still not working.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> On 11/6/2017 3:14 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
>>> My own solution was a little different.  Rather than merely changing iTunes 
>>> to the new location from the old, I pressed the CMD key when launching 
>>> iTunes.  This forced iTunes to ask me for a library location.  I pointed 
>>> the location path to my external USB drive and I made sure it took which it 
>>> did.  One important note to bear in mind.  When setting up your location 
>>> you want to work it so that the path is exactly like what you see below.
>>> 
>>>   External Drive (equals the actual name of your external drive) sub folder 
>>> path if any and finally, the actual folder named “iTunes”  To give you the 
>>> path example I myself am using:
>>> 
>>> External Data/External Music/iTunes
>>> 
>>> HTh.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
>>> blind:
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> The constantly barefooted Ray
>>> 
 On Nov 5, 2017, at 11:59 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello E.T.,
 
 I’m not certain but, if memory serves, the last time I relocated my iTunes 
 media I:
 
 1.
 Made certain that I could play all of the media in iTunes by selecting a 
 few items and playing them back on my computer.
 
 2.
 Reboot my computer and Start iTunes.
 
 3.
 Power off my Apple TV by unplugging it for a minute or so, then rebooting 
 Apple TV.
 
 After that, all worked as expected.
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
 Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:53 PM
 To: MacVisionaries
 Subject: Apple TV and iTunes Library
 
 Over the weekend I moved my iTunes Library to a larger 

Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

[E.T.]

Tim,
   I had done all that and as a last resort, I restored from a backup 
to start over and doing nothing different, it worked this time.


   I do not subscribe to either Apple Music or Match, not sure I need to.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/7/2017 7:47 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi ET,

Try opening iTunes, then up to the File menu, down to Library, then choose 
either Organize or Consolidate Library.  Either or both to see if iTunes begins 
to recognize your library on the Mac first.  A side question, do you subscribe 
to either Apple Music or iTunes Match and thus have a Cloud based library?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 6, 2017, at 16:57, E.T.  wrote:

   Turns out not to be the Apple TV. iTunes 12.7 is not seeing my content, none 
of it. Its all there but its not associating the content with my library. I 
tested buy moving some home videos then copying back to the Automatically Add 
folder. That works.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/6/2017 2:47 PM, David Griffith wrote:

I have no experience of using the Apple TV but I do experience from time to 
time a curious lag in iTunes syching and communicating  across devices. For 
example my Windows machine and my Mac.
Generally this gets resolves after time but it may take a day for the machines 
to catch upwith each other. I have speculated that this slow response may be a 
symptom of the Apple Servers struggling.
Maybe 24 hours will sort it.
David Griffitgh
My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
*From: *E.T. 
*Sent: *06 November 2017 16:12
*To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
*Subject: *Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library
 Holding the option key while opening iTunes was my first step. Also
went into preferences to select the new location. The library is
available on the Mac but the ATV does not see it. Unplugged the box,
still not working.
 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 11/6/2017 3:14 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:

My own solution was a little different.  Rather than merely changing iTunes to 
the new location from the old, I pressed the CMD key when launching iTunes.  
This forced iTunes to ask me for a library location.  I pointed the location 
path to my external USB drive and I made sure it took which it did.  One 
important note to bear in mind.  When setting up your location you want to work 
it so that the path is exactly like what you see below.

   External Drive (equals the actual name of your external drive) sub folder 
path if any and finally, the actual folder named “iTunes”  To give you the path 
example I myself am using:

External Data/External Music/iTunes

HTh.


Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray


On Nov 5, 2017, at 11:59 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello E.T.,

I’m not certain but, if memory serves, the last time I relocated my iTunes 
media I:

1.
Made certain that I could play all of the media in iTunes by selecting a few 
items and playing them back on my computer.

2.
Reboot my computer and Start iTunes.

3.
Power off my Apple TV by unplugging it for a minute or so, then rebooting Apple 
TV.

After that, all worked as expected.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:53 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Apple TV and iTunes Library

 Over the weekend I moved my iTunes Library to a larger external drive. I pointed 
iTunes to the new location. Started up the ATV and I get "no content in this 
library". Wifi connection is good, home sharing is on. I can see the content on the 
Mac. What am I missing?

  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: You Tube downloader?

[dan d.]

This terminal commandwill download a youtube video and extract the vidio in 
mp3, following the command will be an explanation of each part of
the commmand:

youtube.dl --restrict-filenames -x --audio-format mp3 
--youtube-skip-dash-manifest --audio-quality 0 url

After the commandname the restrict part will  put a hyphen in any spaces of the 
name.

The -x says to extract the audio.

Format is obvious, others are available.

The manifest flag saves the time to download unwanted info.

The quality is from 0 - best to 9 - worst.  The better the quality the larger 
the mp3 or other file format.

Url is the web address of the video/audio file.  This application will download 
most all video and audio files on the web, nlot just youtube
videos.

On Mon, 6 Nov 2017, Chris Moore wrote:

> Hello,
> I just ran youtube-dl from the terminal to extract mp3.
> You don???t need homebrew to install it.  The terminal command looks 
> something like:
> youtube-dl ???extract-audio ???audio-format mp3 url
>
> You can get the url by  going into youtube in safari,
> locating the desired song,
> use the copy link in the shortcut menu
> and paste it into the terminal command with cmd+v
>
> HTH
> Chris
> > On Nov 5, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> >
> > You can find info at:
> > https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ 
> > You can install it with Homebrew.
> > Devin Prater
> > Assistive Technology Instructor in Training
> > JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World 
> > Services for the Blind
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 5, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Stacey Robinson  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Where can I find info about youtube dl?
> >> Peace,
> >> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
> >>
> >> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net 
> >>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Devin Prater  >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Oh, that???s good. I looked at Downy, and I think I???ll just stick with 
> >>> Youtube-dl. Far less expensive.
> >>> Devin Prater
> >>> Assistive Technology Instructor in Training
> >>> JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World 
> >>> Services for the Blind
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Nov 5, 2017, at 2:31 PM, E.T.   > wrote:
> 
>    Downie will do this. I have not installed the app yet but the site 
>  states that you can do this.
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . ..
>   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>   and say God did it" --Carl Sagan
>  E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
>  On 11/5/2017 12:09 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
> > Do any of these allow one to download only the audio of the video?
> > Devin Prater
> > Assistive Technology Instructor in Training
> > JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World 
> > Services for the Blind
> >> On Oct 26, 2017, at 2:52 PM, J??rgen Fleger  >>  >> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Robert, Chuck and Andrew,
> >> thanks for your great ideas. Really helpful.
> >> J??rgen
> >>
> >>
> >>> Am 26.10.2017 um 17:31 schrieb Robert Cole  >>>  >>> >>:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Lately, I have been pressing command R To reload the page when a add 
> >>> starts to play, then my video will start.
> >>> I haven???t had any trouble so far.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Rob
> >>>
>  On Oct 26, 2017, at 8:31 AM, J??rgen Fleger 
>      >> wrote:
> 
>  OK, thanks for the responds.
>  What I don???t like about the You Tube site are the ads at the 
>  beginning. I know I somehow could skip them but acutally I???m not 
>  sure which would be the best way to find the skip button quickly. Do 
>  you have a good strategy for this?
>  J??rgen
> 
> > Am 26.10.2017 um 13:56 schrieb jeff `greene  >  > >>:
> >
> > Hi, No I don't think so. I always just find a video I want to keep 
> > on
> > youtube and then copy its url. Then I paste the url into softorino
> > youtube converter and it starts 

Keyboard shortcuts

[Saqib Hussain]

Hi   Since upgrading to IOS11 I have lost all my keyboard shortcuts and I have 
to create all those shortcuts again   Is their anyway I can get  them back?

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Re: Bug in iOS 11.1: unable to drag apps into a folder that is located in the iPhone dock; Follow-up: 677131812

[E.T.]

   This came to us in iOS 10.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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On 11/7/2017 7:30 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
I never realized you could drag items through action menus. I always 
thought we had to physically drag them along with their fingers. This is 
great news.


Sent from my IPhone


On Nov 6, 2017, at 7:39 PM, Mary Otten > wrote:



Hi all,
I got this from Apple accessibility today. I thought it could be of 
interest to folks.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

*From:* Apple Accessibility >

*Date:* November 6, 2017 at 2:13:24 PM PST
*To:* motte...@gmail.com 
*Subject:* *Re: Bug in iOS 11.1: unable to drag apps into a folder 
that is located in the iPhone dock; Follow-up: 677131812*


Hello Mary,

Thank you for writing to Apple Accessibility. In our testing, we were 
able to drop an app in a folder on the dock by using the following steps:
After starting Edit Mode, select the app to be dragged and select the 
Drag option
Navigate to the folder on the dock and select the Activate action to 
open the folder
If the folder opens to a blank page, swipe right with three fingers 
to navigate back to the first page of apps within the folder

Select the location for the app and choose the Drop option.

We recognize that this behavior is different from how items are 
dropped in folders that are not on the dock. We will report this 
issue to the appropriate team.


Sincerely,

Apple Accessibility

On November 02, 2017 at 13:15:34 PM GMT, motte...@gmail.com 
 wrote:



Using voiceover on and I OS 11.1 iPhone 7 Plus, I am not able to drag 
applications into a folder if that folder is in the dock. If I move the folder 
from the dock onto the screen, that is whatever page I’m on, I can then move 
apps into that folder and then move the folder back into the dock. But while 
the folder is in the dock, I cannot move apps to it. This is true for all 
folders, not just one strange one.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


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Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi ET,

Try opening iTunes, then up to the File menu, down to Library, then choose 
either Organize or Consolidate Library.  Either or both to see if iTunes begins 
to recognize your library on the Mac first.  A side question, do you subscribe 
to either Apple Music or iTunes Match and thus have a Cloud based library?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 6, 2017, at 16:57, E.T.  wrote:

  Turns out not to be the Apple TV. iTunes 12.7 is not seeing my content, none 
of it. Its all there but its not associating the content with my library. I 
tested buy moving some home videos then copying back to the Automatically Add 
folder. That works.

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On 11/6/2017 2:47 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> I have no experience of using the Apple TV but I do experience from time to 
> time a curious lag in iTunes syching and communicating  across devices. For 
> example my Windows machine and my Mac.
> Generally this gets resolves after time but it may take a day for the 
> machines to catch upwith each other. I have speculated that this slow 
> response may be a symptom of the Apple Servers struggling.
> Maybe 24 hours will sort it.
> David Griffitgh
> My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
> http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
> My Blind hammer Blog
> https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
> *From: *E.T. 
> *Sent: *06 November 2017 16:12
> *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject: *Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library
> Holding the option key while opening iTunes was my first step. Also
> went into preferences to select the new location. The library is
> available on the Mac but the ATV does not see it. Unplugged the box,
> still not working.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> On 11/6/2017 3:14 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
> > My own solution was a little different.  Rather than merely changing iTunes 
> > to the new location from the old, I pressed the CMD key when launching 
> > iTunes.  This forced iTunes to ask me for a library location.  I pointed 
> > the location path to my external USB drive and I made sure it took which it 
> > did.  One important note to bear in mind.  When setting up your location 
> > you want to work it so that the path is exactly like what you see below.
> >
> >   External Drive (equals the actual name of your external drive) sub folder 
> > path if any and finally, the actual folder named “iTunes”  To give you the 
> > path example I myself am using:
> >
> > External Data/External Music/iTunes
> >
> > HTh.
> >
> >
> > Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
> > blind:
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > The constantly barefooted Ray
> >
> >> On Nov 5, 2017, at 11:59 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello E.T.,
> >>
> >> I’m not certain but, if memory serves, the last time I relocated my iTunes 
> >> media I:
> >>
> >> 1.
> >> Made certain that I could play all of the media in iTunes by selecting a 
> >> few items and playing them back on my computer.
> >>
> >> 2.
> >> Reboot my computer and Start iTunes.
> >>
> >> 3.
> >> Power off my Apple TV by unplugging it for a minute or so, then rebooting 
> >> Apple TV.
> >>
> >> After that, all worked as expected.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> >> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:53 PM
> >> To: MacVisionaries
> >> Subject: Apple TV and iTunes Library
> >>
> >> Over the weekend I moved my iTunes Library to a larger external drive. 
> >> I pointed iTunes to the new location. Started up the ATV and I get "no 
> >> content in this library". Wifi connection is good, home sharing is on. I 
> >> can see the content on the Mac. What am I missing?
> >>
> >>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> >>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
> >>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> >>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> >>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> >> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

[E.T.]

Simon,
   Guess I will keep my ATV 3rd and enjoy my content that is now there. 
Restored the iTunes backup, did nothing any different than before.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/7/2017 1:00 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
I’ve just recently got the apple tv4k and I gotta admit I’m not a fan of 
it’s interfaces.


It seems to be slower than the aTV 4gen

But IOS 11 seems to be really screwy

It doesn’t like moving between contents within apps, and It seems to 
want me to double click on things rather than the old single click on a 
show for streaming.


As for accessing my content it definitely is slower but that may be 
server related.


*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *David Griffith

*Sent:* Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:48 AM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Apple TV and iTunes Library

I have no experience of using the Apple TV but I do experience from time 
to time a curious lag in iTunes syching and communicating  across 
devices. For example my Windows machine and my Mac.


Generally this gets resolves after time but it may take a day for the 
machines to catch upwith each other. I have speculated that this slow 
response may be a symptom of the Apple Servers struggling.


Maybe 24 hours will sort it.

David Griffitgh

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

*From: *E.T. 
*Sent: *06 November 2017 16:12
*To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 


*Subject: *Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

     Holding the option key while opening iTunes was my first step. Also

went into preferences to select the new location. The library is

available on the Mac but the ATV does not see it. Unplugged the box,

still not working.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .

    "God for you is where you sweep away all the

    mysteries of the world, all the challenges to

    our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off

    and say God did it." --Carl Sagan

E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 11/6/2017 3:14 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:

My own solution was a little different.  Rather than merely changing iTunes to the new location from the old, I pressed the CMD key when launching iTunes.  This forced iTunes to ask me for a library location.  I pointed  the location path to my external USB drive and I made sure it took 
which it did.  One important note to bear in mind.  When setting up your 
location you want to work it so that the path is exactly like what you 
see below.







   External Drive (equals the actual name of your external drive) sub folder 
path if any and finally, the actual folder named “iTunes”  To give you the path 
example I myself am using:







External Data/External Music/iTunes







HTh.











Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:







Sincerely,







The constantly barefooted Ray







On Nov 5, 2017, at 11:59 PM, M. Taylor > 
wrote:







Hello E.T.,







I’m not certain but, if memory serves, the last time I relocated my iTunes 
media I:







1.



Made certain that I could play all of the media in iTunes by selecting a few 
items and playing them back on my computer.







2.



Reboot my computer and Start iTunes.







3.



Power off my Apple TV by unplugging it for a minute or so, then rebooting Apple 
TV.







After that, all worked as expected.







Mark







-Original Message-


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  

[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.


Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:53 PM



To: MacVisionaries



Subject: Apple TV and iTunes Library







 Over the weekend I moved my iTunes Library to a larger external drive. I pointed 
iTunes to the new location. Started up the ATV and I get "no content in this 
library". Wifi connection is good, home sharing is on.  I can see the content on the 
Mac. What am I missing?







  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .



    "God for you is where you sweep away all the



    mysteries of the world, all the challenges to



    our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off



    and say God did it." --Carl Sagan



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Re: Bug in iOS 11.1: unable to drag apps into a folder that is located in the iPhone dock; Follow-up: 677131812

[Phil Halton]

I never realized you could drag items through action menus. I always thought we 
had to physically drag them along with their fingers. This is great news. 

Sent from my IPhone


> On Nov 6, 2017, at 7:39 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I got this from Apple accessibility today. I thought it could be of interest 
> to folks.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Apple Accessibility 
>> Date: November 6, 2017 at 2:13:24 PM PST
>> To: motte...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: Bug in iOS 11.1: unable to drag apps into a folder that is 
>> located in the iPhone dock; Follow-up: 677131812
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> Thank you for writing to Apple Accessibility. In our testing, we were able 
>> to drop an app in a folder on the dock by using the following steps:
>> After starting Edit Mode, select the app to be dragged and select the Drag 
>> option
>> Navigate to the folder on the dock and select the Activate action to open 
>> the folder
>> If the folder opens to a blank page, swipe right with three fingers to 
>> navigate back to the first page of apps within the folder
>> Select the location for the app and choose the Drop option.
>> 
>> We recognize that this behavior is different from how items are dropped in 
>> folders that are not on the dock. We will report this issue to the 
>> appropriate team.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Apple Accessibility 
>> 
>>> On November 02, 2017 at 13:15:34 PM GMT, motte...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Using voiceover on and I OS 11.1 iPhone 7 Plus, I am not able to drag 
>>> applications into a folder if that folder is in the dock. If I move the 
>>> folder from the dock onto the screen, that is whatever page I’m on, I can 
>>> then move apps into that folder and then move the folder back into the 
>>> dock. But while the folder is in the dock, I cannot move apps to it. This 
>>> is true for all folders, not just one strange one.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: Counting my Money

[E.T.]

Ramy,
   You gotta start somewhere. If you have Numbers, start there and look 
at the provided templates.


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On 11/7/2017 1:12 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

but I must do a formula and so on?
I was searching for something that I can enter full details and it
gave me  what I got and what I spent during a period of time


On 11/7/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

What about numbers or Ms Excel?
Just a spread sheet
Would that not work for you

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 8:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Counting my Money

Hi Dear:
Thanks so much
but this is not my question.
am askng for an app to calculate my Income and all my money through the
month.

Do you know any app that can do this?

Thanks so much for your interest



On 11/6/17, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Ramy,

Currently, I use an app called Money Reader on my Mac to read money.

I don't remember the name of the company but just type in Money
Reader, in the App Store Search field and it should come up.  I use it
almost everyday.


If memory serves, it's not free but very reasonable.

Mark

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 1:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Counting my Money

Hello all:

I'm inneed for an APp on mac that can count my incoming and outgoing
money.
I tried on Applevis but may be am not using the correct search words.
so is there a good app that can do this? and it's accessibility is ok?
also it will be better if it can sync the data to Iphone to be able to
write if I did anything without my laptop with me.

THanks in advance.


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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

[Mike Arrigo]

It's a great app, very accessible, it will make a backup to an external 
drive that you can actually boot from, much better than time machine.

Original message:
Dear List, I have been having issues with time machine.  It just wiped 
my capsule for no apparent reason.  I have heard good things about 
carbon copy cloner in the past.  Is it still accessible?  How does the 
functionality differ from time machine?



Many Thanks, Lee



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Re: Counting my Money

[Erik Burggraaf]

I would if I could. Unfortunately, I've never used them myself, and don't 
have enough experience to make a good recommendation. Sorry I couldn't be 
more help, Eric



On November 6, 2017 5:04:23 PM Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

can not u Recommend one?


On 11/6/17, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Check the app store for budgeting or budget apps. The app would allow you
to enter your incomes, add your bank accounts, track receipts and calculate

your spending. It would also show you where you can save money, what your
total regular monthly bills are, and lots of other information about your
finances. Hope this helps,


On November 6, 2017 2:58:50 AM Ramy Moustafa 
wrote:


Hi Dear:
Thanks so much
but this is not my question.
am askng for an app to calculate my Income and all my money through the
month.

Do you know any app that can do this?

Thanks so much for your interest



On 11/6/17, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Ramy,

Currently, I use an app called Money Reader on my Mac to read money.

I don't remember the name of the company but just type in Money Reader,
in
the App Store Search field and it should come up.  I use it almost
everyday.


If memory serves, it's not free but very reasonable.

Mark

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Counting my Money

Hello all:

I'm inneed for an APp on mac that can count my incoming and outgoing
money.
I tried on Applevis but may be am not using the correct search words.
so is there a good app that can do this? and it's accessibility is ok?
also it will be better if it can sync the data to Iphone to be able to
write
if I did anything without my laptop with me.

THanks in advance.


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Re: Counting my Money

[Ramy Moustafa]

but I must do a formula and so on?
I was searching for something that I can enter full details and it
gave me  what I got and what I spent during a period of time


On 11/7/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> What about numbers or Ms Excel?
> Just a spread sheet
> Would that not work for you
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
> Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 8:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Counting my Money
>
> Hi Dear:
> Thanks so much
> but this is not my question.
> am askng for an app to calculate my Income and all my money through the
> month.
>
> Do you know any app that can do this?
>
> Thanks so much for your interest
>
>
>
> On 11/6/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Hello Ramy,
>>
>> Currently, I use an app called Money Reader on my Mac to read money.
>>
>> I don't remember the name of the company but just type in Money
>> Reader, in the App Store Search field and it should come up.  I use it
>> almost everyday.
>>
>>
>> If memory serves, it's not free but very reasonable.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 1:09 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Counting my Money
>>
>> Hello all:
>>
>> I'm inneed for an APp on mac that can count my incoming and outgoing
>> money.
>> I tried on Applevis but may be am not using the correct search words.
>> so is there a good app that can do this? and it's accessibility is ok?
>> also it will be better if it can sync the data to Iphone to be able to
>> write if I did anything without my laptop with me.
>>
>> THanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Faculty ofmusical education
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RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, Beware

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mark,

 Glad you saw it as the joke it was meant as.

I can't wait to hear your end review of th ex once your finished with it.

 Yeah I so wish we had apple stores here.

 Good luck with it and hope your having a lot of fun.


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On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2017 3:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation 
Users, Beware

Hello Simon,

Big Smile.

I completely understand.  

If it's any consolation, please know that I only have use of this iPHone X for 
one more day, only, as it is a loaner unit.  (smile)

You're right about one thing, though, sometimes it really is best to go to an 
Apple Store and try your luck.

I have a friend who both orders his new devices on-line and goes to the store.  
If he gets the unit at the store, then he simply cancels his online order.  Now 
that's dedication to a mission, eh?  (big smile)

Hang in there.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 12:13 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation 
Users, Beware

Mark,

 I'll say this now,

 I no longer think you’re a nice guy!

I preordered mine on the 27th and I'm still waiting as NZ didn't get enough 
units to fill all preorder requests 

 I knew I should have gone to apple rather than my provider.

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Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 1:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark on iPHone X: Left-Handed Low Vision, Display Accommodation Users, 
Beware

Hello All,

Well, I now have an iPHone X, on loan for a few days.

I must say, as has been reported by others, that the new Home/App switcher 
gesture commands work beautifully with VoiceOver.  Also, Face ID was a breeze 
to set up, however, I would like to note that I have enough vision to see 
exactly how to position the front-facing camera.

Be that as it may, as a low-vision user, I toggle the Invert Color feature on 
and off, countless times during the day.  

On previous iPHone models, this was not a problem being that the Home button 
was located in the bottom center of the phone.  

However, with iPHone X, I must use the side button, located on the right side 
of the device.  

I am left-handed.  In fact, to my surprise, I realized that I am really, really 
a left-handed person when it comes to iPhone.  (smile)  

Consequently, it is no longer as convenient to use Invert Colors as I am having 
to toggle this feature with either my right hand or hold the phone in a 
slightly awkward position in order to reach the side button with my middle 
finger on my left hand.  

I do not have a case for this phone so don't know if I'd be able to reach the 
button with my left hand were the device placed inside such an accessory.

In terms of making a decision as to which phone to purchase, I will need more 
time with iPhone X.  However, I can tell you that, at this point, I am leaning 
towards iPHone 8 Plus if for no other reason but that I prefer the triple-click 
button to be in a more neutral location on the phone than is currently the case 
on iPHone X.

If there were no iPHone 8 series, I would most likely purchase iPhone X and 
learn to live with it; however, currently I have a choice and for this I am 
grateful.  

What I hope is that, someday, Apple, along with all the other hardware 
manufacturers, will allow user-defined hardware button assignments.  For 
example, iPHone 11 would have 4 hardware buttons, 2 on each side and the user 
could determine which is for volume up, Siri, Screen Lock, etc.  

Per chance to dream, eh?  (smile)

Mark


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RE: Apple TV and iTunes Library

[Simon Fogarty]

I’ve just recently got the apple tv4k and I gotta admit I’m not a fan of it’s 
interfaces.
It seems to be slower than the aTV 4gen
But IOS 11 seems to be really screwy
It doesn’t like moving between contents within apps, and It seems to want me to 
double click on things rather than the old single click on a show for streaming.

As for accessing my content it definitely is slower but that may be server 
related.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:48 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV and iTunes Library

I have no experience of using the Apple TV but I do experience from time to 
time a curious lag in iTunes syching and communicating  across devices. For 
example my Windows machine and my Mac.
Generally this gets resolves after time but it may take a day for the machines 
to catch upwith each other. I have speculated that this slow response may be a 
symptom of the Apple Servers struggling.
Maybe 24 hours will sort it.
David Griffitgh

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From: E.T.
Sent: 06 November 2017 16:12
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV and iTunes Library

Holding the option key while opening iTunes was my first step. Also
went into preferences to select the new location. The library is
available on the Mac but the ATV does not see it. Unplugged the box,
still not working.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/6/2017 3:14 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
> My own solution was a little different.  Rather than merely changing iTunes 
> to the new location from the old, I pressed the CMD key when launching 
> iTunes.  This forced iTunes to ask me for a library location.  I pointed the 
> location path to my external USB drive and I made sure it took which it did.  
> One important note to bear in mind.  When setting up your location you want 
> to work it so that the path is exactly like what you see below.
>
>   External Drive (equals the actual name of your external drive) sub folder 
> path if any and finally, the actual folder named “iTunes”  To give you the 
> path example I myself am using:
>
> External Data/External Music/iTunes
>
> HTh.
>
>
> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
>
> Sincerely,
>
> The constantly barefooted Ray
>
>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 11:59 PM, M. Taylor 
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Hello E.T.,
>>
>> I’m not certain but, if memory serves, the last time I relocated my iTunes 
>> media I:
>>
>> 1.
>> Made certain that I could play all of the media in iTunes by selecting a few 
>> items and playing them back on my computer.
>>
>> 2.
>> Reboot my computer and Start iTunes.
>>
>> 3.
>> Power off my Apple TV by unplugging it for a minute or so, then rebooting 
>> Apple TV.
>>
>> After that, all worked as expected.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 9:53 PM
>> To: MacVisionaries
>> Subject: Apple TV and iTunes Library
>>
>> Over the weekend I moved my iTunes Library to a larger external drive. I 
>> pointed iTunes to the new location. Started up the ATV and I get "no content 
>> in this library". Wifi connection is good, home sharing is on. I can see the 
>> content on the Mac. What am I missing?
>>
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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RE: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

[Simon Fogarty]

I love it.

 I Knew it wouldn't take long.
But I dind't think it would be this short a time.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Saqib Hussain
Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2017 3:37 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - 
CNET

Hi. This morning I read an article where younger sibling managed to unlock an 
iPhone 10 and they were most definitely not twins. Mac rumours has the story. 

> On 1 Nov 2017, at 17:00, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, you are correct with respect to the identical twins aspect of this 
> feature, although photos, masks and such have no bearing in this process as 
> the identification process is a 3D process, therefore, 2D photos are 
> immaterial.  This can be affirmed in the same article you partially posted.  
> My main point is that we need to be careful when posting opinions of 
> potential, unproven deficiencies.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:36, Robin  wrote:
> 
> No, I,Robin do NOT have any Proof that Apple's TouchID is More or Less 
> Secure than its NEW FaceID Although I have Heard News that Identical 
> Twins Privacy & Security is More Secure with TouchID as Opposed to its 
> FaceID based on Early Reports  of Apple's FaceID on its ForthComing 
> Anniversary Eidition of the iPhone, the iPhoneX (Pronounced iPhone10)
> 
> People  don't have the Same FingerPrints, but Photos  or Faces can be 
> Identical as IN Identical Twins
> 
> I,Robin Learned through MyStudy of Forensics (Forensic Science) that 
> FringerPrints  Vary from 1 Individual TO Another (Individual) At 08:30 AM 
> 11/1/2017, you wrote:
>> Hi Robin,
>> 
>> do you have some credible source to support your belief about the level of 
>> security of a Face ID vs a finger-print sensor?  I'm not sure if one is 
>> actually more secure than the other, just another method to do things.  As 
>> I've mentioned a few times before, when the finger-print sensor was first 
>> introduced on the iPhone, there was tons of noise made about it's probable 
>> lack of security compared to the good old pass-code.  Now that we've had it 
>> for a while, many people are making it sound like it's the best thing yet 
>> and anything new won't do.  We are all welcome to our opinions, but I 
>> believe that it is beneficial to base these opinions on sound research, 
>> rather than hear-say.  You may be right in the end, I'm really not sure, but 
>> I haven't seen anything but arm-chair opinions so far.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 00:05, Robin  wrote:
>> 
>> Why do you Beleive Apple's Face ID is SO Secure because Apple Says So?
>> Personally, I Beleive
>> Touch ID is More Secure & Gives Users More Security & Privacy than 
>> Apple's Face ID
>> 
>> Would Apple  go Away from The Norm & Keep its iPhoneX special by  Having it 
>> be the ONLY iPhone to come Equipped With Face ID  for a Couple of Years to 
>> Justify the Price?
>> Probably Not
>> At 10:59 PM 10/31/2017, you wrote:
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Facial recog is more secure than finger prints in this products case.
>>> 
>>> But yes an identical twin would be required and then I believe may still 
>>> struggle.
>>> 
>>> I'll be surprised if someone doesn't crack the facial recognition some time 
>>> soonn as they did pretty quickly with samsungs galaxy s8 version of it.
>>> Which I believe is only retinal scan. Or was it iris scanning.
>>> 
>>> But either way,
>>> If the looking directly at the phone / screen feature is auto disabled if 
>>> vo is active, is that not a good feature for us as they have seen there may 
>>> be an issue for blind / VI users looking actually at the phone camera.
>>> To me this is a forward thought.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:56 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 
>>> 18 hours - CNET
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> While I don't wish to minimize anyone's concerns, Face ID even without the 
>>> eye contact feature is still very secure.  You basically need to be a twin 
>>> to be able to fool the system from most things I've heard or read.  When 
>>> the finger-print sensor was first introduced on the iPhone, there was quite 
>>> a bit of noise made about possible security flaws, and now we're touting it 
>>> as more secure than Face ID.  I'm just not confident in many of these 
>>> opinions out there.  Joe Public just doesn't have the in-depth data 
>>> required to do a proper assessment of its true security risks.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 

RE: Counting my Money

[Simon Fogarty]

What about numbers or Ms Excel?
Just a spread sheet 
Would that not work for you 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
Sent: Monday, 6 November 2017 8:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Counting my Money

Hi Dear:
Thanks so much
but this is not my question.
am askng for an app to calculate my Income and all my money through the month.

Do you know any app that can do this?

Thanks so much for your interest



On 11/6/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Ramy,
>
> Currently, I use an app called Money Reader on my Mac to read money.
>
> I don't remember the name of the company but just type in Money 
> Reader, in the App Store Search field and it should come up.  I use it almost 
> everyday.
>
>
> If memory serves, it's not free but very reasonable.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 1:09 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Counting my Money
>
> Hello all:
>
> I'm inneed for an APp on mac that can count my incoming and outgoing money.
> I tried on Applevis but may be am not using the correct search words.
> so is there a good app that can do this? and it's accessibility is ok?
> also it will be better if it can sync the data to Iphone to be able to 
> write if I did anything without my laptop with me.
>
> THanks in advance.
>
>
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