Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

A cheap voltmeter tells you maybe 10% of what might be interesting
about power quality.  Harbor Freight meters, in particular, are really
quite sluggish, and update their readings slowly.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 19:47:05 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
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> Buy one of those little digital voltage monitors from banggood they’re
> really cheap. You can watch the voltage in real time. 

Or look for Harbor Freight's "free-when-you-buy-something-else" coupon
for their DVM.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Could be worth messing with

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Does Max have a hatch and back bumper for it?
$2500 was a joke. 
Mitch. 
> On June 11, 2018 at 9:34 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
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> https://springfield.craigslist.org/ctd/d/1995-mercedes-e320-trade-in/6614216379.html

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Re: [MBZ] Could be worth messing with

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I think this is an even better deal, now down to $2k:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2987817-fs-1994-e320.html#post17412547

I would be all over it if I had a need.

-D


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> This has been for sale for a while. Started out at $2500 or so
> 
> 1995 Mercedes E320 - Trade in Special 115K - Original Miles
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

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> On June 11, 2018 at 9:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, I hope so.  I’ve shot and own a number of semi auto .22LR pistols, 
> but never had a .22LR revolver.  Looking forward to some fun at the range 
> with it.

Don't forget the camera:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JjIHj3zqbY

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[MBZ] Could be worth messing with

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

This has been for sale for a while. Started out at $2500 or so

1995 Mercedes E320 - Trade in Special 115K - Original Miles

https://springfield.craigslist.org/ctd/d/1995-mercedes-e320-trade-in/6614216379.html


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, I hope so.  I’ve shot and own a number of semi auto .22LR pistols, but 
never had a .22LR revolver.  Looking forward to some fun at the rane with it.

Dan


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> I have the same .44 Mag. I've shot all the calibers of the Blackhawk line. 
> They tend
> to roll in your hand instead of pushing straight back like the Smith.
> Dan will like the .22 it's a sweet pistol.
> 
> Russ W.
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Re: [MBZ] Should I?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

“B” as in Buggered Benzmail


> On Jun 11, 2018, at 9:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> Does that say DOOBS or BOOBS?
> 
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Should I?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Does that say DOOBS or BOOBS?

--R
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Re: [MBZ] Should I?

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Offer 125

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On Jun 11, 2018 9:21 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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> Nahh, she would mess it up.
>
> -D
>
> Love the tag on the front fender.
>
> > On Jun 11, 2018, at 8:59 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Perfect for Regina.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Should I?

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Nahh, she would mess it up.

-D

Love the tag on the front fender.

> On Jun 11, 2018, at 8:59 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Should I?

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Hahahahaha hahahahaha

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Re: [MBZ] Should I?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Why not. Life is short.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

I have the same .44 Mag. I've shot all the calibers of the Blackhawk 
line. They tend

to roll in your hand instead of pushing straight back like the Smith.
Dan will like the .22 it's a sweet pistol.

Russ W.

On Mon,6/11/18 08:44, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great uncle, never 
have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be too bad but I 
suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...


-Curt




On Sunday, June 10, 2018, 9:57:48 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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For whatever reason, the Okie listserve strips my attachments out, no matter 
how small.  Maybe some day the administrator can get that “feature” sorted out.

http://penoff.com/photodump.html 

-D






On Jun 10, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:04:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:


After enjoying my Marlin 60 rifle so much, I started looking for
a .22LR pistol/revolver.  I really didn’t want to drop the kind of coin
necessary for like a Ruger Mark 4 or such, so I started looking at
vintage revolvers.  Ended up buying a 1966 Ruger Super Single Six three
screw model:



Won’t have time to get to the range today, so I’ll have to put it in
the safe until later in the week when I can get out there…

Was there supposed to be a picture attached in the blank lines in between
your two paragraphs, Dan?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Should I?

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Perfect for Regina.

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[MBZ] Should I?

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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Buy one of those little digital voltage monitors from banggood they’re really 
cheap. You can watch the voltage in real time. 

--R
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> On Jun 11, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
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> Low voltage makes the radio in the TE intermittent and the radio display 
> garbled.
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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Purported to kill the dash in a TDI also, I got lucky when I got my Jetta, we 
boosted it due to a dead battery a couple times but it doesn't seem to have 
been hurt.
-Curt

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 Low voltage makes the radio in the TE intermittent and the radio display 
garbled.
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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

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Low voltage makes the radio in the TE intermittent and the radio display 
garbled.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

To add to this, they are currently listed as a species of special concern, so 
it’s a felony to mess with them.

-D


> On Jun 11, 2018, at 7:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> "The American alligator is classified by the US Fish and Wildlife Service as 
> similarity of appearance to a threatened taxon. This listing provides federal 
> protection for alligators but allows state-approved management and control 
> programs. This listing has been adopted by the State of Florida."
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Left unsaid is WHY gators are protected, it's not as if they're an 
>> endangered species...
>> Mitch.
>> 
>> Florida Fish and Wildlife said alligators are protected by Florida law. 
>> Under rare circumstances you can claim self defense when an alligator 
>> attacks you.
>> 
>> Wildlife expert David Hitzing said if an alligator is truly aggressive 
>> against you or your pet on your property you can take actions against the 
>> alligator. But if the attack against a pet happens outside your property it 
>> is even more difficult to claim self defense.
>> 
>> Hitzing said that's because FWC does not want people shooting and killing 
>> alligators at random and then claiming self defense.
>> 
>> "If your pet was truly attacked and you go and killed the alligator, I think 
>> it would be pretty difficult for the state to prosecute you," Hitzing said.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

"The American alligator is classified by the US Fish and Wildlife Service as 
similarity of appearance to a threatened taxon. This listing provides federal 
protection for alligators but allows state-approved management and control 
programs. This listing has been adopted by the State of Florida."

-D



> On Jun 11, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Left unsaid is WHY gators are protected, it's not as if they're an endangered 
> species...
> Mitch.
> 
> Florida Fish and Wildlife said alligators are protected by Florida law. Under 
> rare circumstances you can claim self defense when an alligator attacks you.
> 
> Wildlife expert David Hitzing said if an alligator is truly aggressive 
> against you or your pet on your property you can take actions against the 
> alligator. But if the attack against a pet happens outside your property it 
> is even more difficult to claim self defense.
> 
> Hitzing said that's because FWC does not want people shooting and killing 
> alligators at random and then claiming self defense.
> 
> "If your pet was truly attacked and you go and killed the alligator, I think 
> it would be pretty difficult for the state to prosecute you," Hitzing said.
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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Greg!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: While talking about guns

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The Renegade is basically a plain jane Hawken. I looked at both at the show, 
the Renegade was about $50 cheaper and as I was looking for a hunting rifle its 
perfect...
-Curt

On Monday, June 11, 2018, 6:53:15 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
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 That rifle looks very similar to the .54 T/C Hawken I built from a kit. The 
double set triggers are awesome! That Renegade is very nice.

Greg

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The other day I finally got a chance to go to the range and try out my .54 
caliber TC Renegade that I bought back in 
February.https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1754/27872740887_471c6a931d_b.jpg
With roundball it was kind of all over, I was holding about a 4" circle, I knew 
it could do better. When I bought the gun I also got 150 460gr "Buffalo 
Bullets" somebody had cast with a Lyman 
mold.https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1726/27872644347_20db850c5e_b.jpgWith 70 
grains of powder they were a little low, with 80 they're still a little low but 
make a nice 
group:https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1743/41842003945_8170d5acae_b.jpgThe 
Buffalo bullets make better holes too, they're the ones at about 5 o'clock in 
the picture.
I need to get a chronograph and see how fast they're going, with 460gr thats a 
helluva punch. Of course there is an equal and opposite reaction and the gun 
kicks like a mule shooting them. I ran out of powder at about the same time I 
ran out of shoulder, next time out I'll go back to 70gr and adjust the sights 
up a little...
-Curt
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That rifle looks very similar to the .54 T/C Hawken I built from a kit. The 
double set triggers are awesome! That Renegade is very nice.

Greg

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The other day I finally got a chance to go to the range and try out my .54 
caliber TC Renegade that I bought back in 
February.https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1754/27872740887_471c6a931d_b.jpg
With roundball it was kind of all over, I was holding about a 4" circle, I knew 
it could do better. When I bought the gun I also got 150 460gr "Buffalo 
Bullets" somebody had cast with a Lyman 
mold.https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1726/27872644347_20db850c5e_b.jpgWith 70 
grains of powder they were a little low, with 80 they're still a little low but 
make a nice 
group:https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1743/41842003945_8170d5acae_b.jpgThe 
Buffalo bullets make better holes too, they're the ones at about 5 o'clock in 
the picture.
I need to get a chronograph and see how fast they're going, with 460gr thats a 
helluva punch. Of course there is an equal and opposite reaction and the gun 
kicks like a mule shooting them. I ran out of powder at about the same time I 
ran out of shoulder, next time out I'll go back to 70gr and adjust the sights 
up a little...
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Exactly. The issue comes if you want a pair of boots...

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2018, at 6:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a time to practice the 3 "s" rule, shoot, shovel and shut up...
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, June 11, 2018, 6:06:03 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Yes.  Read this for details:
> 
> https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/florida-law-says-if-a-gator-attacks-your-pet-youre-not-allowed-to-shoot-and-kill-it
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 11/06/2018 3:25 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I give our locals a wide berth whenever I see them.  There's some biguns 
>>> around too, used to be lots more of huge ones, 15 footers. I've seen some 
>>> 10-12 footers around.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>> 
>> Are they considered "protected" where you are? Can you shoot them if they 
>> appear interested in you?
>> 
>> I knew someone who had a cousin who was a long haul trucker. He got into 
>> some hot water for running over a gator in the south somewhere - Louisiana 
>> maybe. They let him go after he pointed out the Manitoba licence plate on 
>> his truck and told them that in Canada, a reference to a "gator on the road" 
>> over the CB meant there was a truck tire tread on the road that should be 
>> avoided at a certain location. He had not anticipated that it might be a 
>> genuine alligator on the road.
>> 
>> RB
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Left unsaid is WHY gators are protected, it's not as if they're an endangered 
species...
Mitch.

Florida Fish and Wildlife said alligators are protected by Florida law. Under 
rare circumstances you can claim self defense when an alligator attacks you.

Wildlife expert David Hitzing said if an alligator is truly aggressive against 
you or your pet on your property you can take actions against the alligator. 
But if the attack against a pet happens outside your property it is even more 
difficult to claim self defense.

Hitzing said that's because FWC does not want people shooting and killing 
alligators at random and then claiming self defense.

"If your pet was truly attacked and you go and killed the alligator, I think it 
would be pretty difficult for the state to prosecute you," Hitzing said.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

The only SA I ever owned was a later model Blackhawk, safe to load with all six.

Greg

-Original Message-
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Thanks, Greg.  I’m looking forward on some fun at the range with this as well 
as learning how to properly and safely load it.

As I understand, one in the chamber, an empty chamber, then four more?

I have an excellent RSO that I’ll have walk me through it, too.

-D

> On Jun 11, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The revolver is indeed intended to fire two different rounds of slightly 
> different bullet diameter. And it was not the only one. There was also a 
> .357/9mm (.355) revolver with interchangeable cylinders. Not the best for top 
> target accuracy, but it kinda works, and is perfectly safe.
> 
> Congrats to Dan on a collectible and fun acquisition!
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade 
> Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 7:29 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Meade Dillon
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun
> 
> I think you mean something other than 22 magnum, I think that .22 magnum a
> slightly larger caliber than .22LR so you'd also need a larger diameter
> barrel.
> 
> Regardless, nice looking pistol and a great option for learning to safely
> and accurately handle such.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote:
> 
>> The provenance on this model gun is actually pretty cool.
>> 
>> Apparently, with the popularity of Westerns at the time, Ruger decided it
>> would be smart marketing to put out a “six shooter” for the masses. There
>> were a number of different models, with barrel lengths up to 9” and
>> “convertibles” that had an additional cylinder that allowed the owner to
>> shoot .22 magnum bullets as well.
>> 
>> The distinction between models as they aged seems to be the “three screw”
>> identifier that applies to revolvers made before the late 60s/early 70s,
>> when Ruger redesigned the action and added a stop bar for safety purposes.
>> 
>> You can still send your Super Single Six in to Ruger to be updated, but
>> I’ve found that the three screw unmodified models are more valuable, so
>> mine will stay that way and I’ll be careful to load only five at a time so
>> there’s nothing “in the pipe” so to speak.
>> 
>> I’ve also found that Ruger will not sell parts without a serial number,
>> and if it comes back as an unmodified model they will not sell you parts
>> without having the revolver back and updating it.
>> 
>> Meh. There’s always Brownell’s.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great
>> uncle, never have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be
>> too bad but I suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, June 10, 2018, 9:57:48 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For whatever reason, the Okie listserve strips my attachments out, no
>> matter how small.  Maybe some day the administrator can get that “feature”
>> sorted out.
>>> 
>>> http://penoff.com/photodump.html 
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 10, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
 
 On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:04:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
> After enjoying my Marlin 60 rifle so much, I started looking for
> a .22LR pistol/revolver.  I really didn’t want to drop the kind of coin
> necessary for like a Ruger Mark 4 or such, so I started looking at
> vintage revolvers.  Ended up buying a 1966 Ruger Super Single Six three
> screw model:
> 
> 
> 
> Won’t have time to get to the range today, so I’ll have to put it in
> the safe until later in the week when I can get out there…
 
 Was there supposed to be a picture attached in the blank lines in
>> between
 your two paragraphs, Dan?
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

After installing the battery I cleared the codes. They did not repeat until I 
left the thermoelectric cooler hooked up for a brief stop at a rest area. When 
I restarted it coded again (I am guessing because the draw from the cooler 
inhibited the electron flow to the computer). I cleared them again and I now 
remember to unplug the cooler before shutting down. It's been many months now 
with no codes. I don't think there was ever a sensor malfunction, just a false 
alarm. "It was just the gizmo."

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

Was the yaw sensor malfunction constant, or intermittent?  Was the "cure"
immediate with the new battery, or did you have to drive it a bit to make
sure the code didn't come back?


-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I examined the carfax I got from Kleb and determined that the MB battery
> was 9 years old. I guessed that it could be causing problems with the
> electronics because of a slightly low voltage, and I don't try to stretch
> battery life past 5 or 6 years, so replaced it, even though it cranked and
> started up just fine. I may have read somewhere that MB computer
> electronics are very sensitive to voltage levels. That solved the error
> code problem. So, a lucky guess?
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
> Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:30 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Meade Dillon
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
>
> So how did you reach the conclusion that a new battery would fix the issue?
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I used an Autel Code Reader Diaglink (DIY Version of MD802). It uses the
> > proprietary MB data that is available through the standard port, so
> > provides a lot more than just a generic OBD2 scanner. It proved
> invaluable
> > when checking out my ML, at a much lower cost than the type of system
> that
> > Kaleb uses.
> >
> > Greg
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
> > Dillon via Mercedes
> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:47 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Max Dillon
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
> >
> > How did you diagnose that?  Was the message on the driver's info display,
> > or did you need a diagnostic tool to get that?
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On June 9, 2018 6:37:29 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >A yaw sensor message on a W163 could be caused by a low voltage
> > >condition. I cured mine with a new battery.
> > >
> > >Greg
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

In some ways they are better since you have so much more information available 
as forewarnings instead of listening for strange noises or waiting until 
something breaks. On the other hand they can be far more expensive to repair 
because of their complexity. Having one of each provides the best of both 
worlds IMO.
Gerry
 

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  wrote:

> OMG those newfangled cars sound like a real PIA
> 
> Andrew
> Whose "newest" vehicle ever owned was a 1985 300TD.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Was the yaw sensor malfunction constant, or intermittent?  Was the "cure"
> > immediate with the new battery, or did you have to drive it a bit to make
> > sure the code didn't come back?
> >
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I examined the carfax I got from Kleb and determined that the MB battery
> > > was 9 years old. I guessed that it could be causing problems with the
> > > electronics because of a slightly low voltage, and I don't try to stretch
> > > battery life past 5 or 6 years, so replaced it, even though it cranked
> > and
> > > started up just fine. I may have read somewhere that MB computer
> > > electronics are very sensitive to voltage levels. That solved the error
> > > code problem. So, a lucky guess?
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
> > > Dillon via Mercedes
> > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:30 AM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > > Cc: Meade Dillon
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
> > >
> > > So how did you reach the conclusion that a new battery would fix the
> > issue?
> > >
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I used an Autel Code Reader Diaglink (DIY Version of MD802). It uses
> > the
> > > > proprietary MB data that is available through the standard port, so
> > > > provides a lot more than just a generic OBD2 scanner. It proved
> > > invaluable
> > > > when checking out my ML, at a much lower cost than the type of system
> > > that
> > > > Kaleb uses.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
> > > > Dillon via Mercedes
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:47 AM
> > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > > > Cc: Max Dillon
> > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
> > > >
> > > > How did you diagnose that?  Was the message on the driver's info
> > display,
> > > > or did you need a diagnostic tool to get that?
> > > > --
> > > > Max Dillon
> > > > Charleston SC
> > > > '87 300TD
> > > > '95 E300
> > > >
> > > > On June 9, 2018 6:37:29 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >A yaw sensor message on a W163 could be caused by a low voltage
> > > > >condition. I cured mine with a new battery.
> > > > >
> > > > >Greg
> > > > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Amen.

-D


> On Jun 11, 2018, at 6:09 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a time to practice the 3 "s" rule, shoot, shovel and shut up...
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, June 11, 2018, 6:06:03 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes.  Read this for details:
> 
> https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/florida-law-says-if-a-gator-attacks-your-pet-youre-not-allowed-to-shoot-and-kill-it
>  
> 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Jun 11, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > On 11/06/2018 3:25 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I give our locals a wide berth whenever I see them.  There's some biguns 
> >> around too, used to be lots more of huge ones, 15 footers. I've seen some 
> >> 10-12 footers around.
> >> 
> >> --FT
> >> 
> > 
> > Are they considered "protected" where you are? Can you shoot them if they 
> > appear interested in you?
> > 
> > I knew someone who had a cousin who was a long haul trucker. He got into 
> > some hot water for running over a gator in the south somewhere - Louisiana 
> > maybe. They let him go after he pointed out the Manitoba licence plate on 
> > his truck and told them that in Canada, a reference to a "gator on the 
> > road" over the CB meant there was a truck tire tread on the road that 
> > should be avoided at a certain location. He had not anticipated that it 
> > might be a genuine alligator on the road.
> > 
> > RB
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Sounds like a time to practice the 3 "s" rule, shoot, shovel and shut up...

-Curt

On Monday, June 11, 2018, 6:06:03 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Yes.  Read this for details:

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/florida-law-says-if-a-gator-attacks-your-pet-youre-not-allowed-to-shoot-and-kill-it

-D


> On Jun 11, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 11/06/2018 3:25 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> I give our locals a wide berth whenever I see them.  There's some biguns 
>> around too, used to be lots more of huge ones, 15 footers. I've seen some 
>> 10-12 footers around.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
> 
> Are they considered "protected" where you are? Can you shoot them if they 
> appear interested in you?
> 
> I knew someone who had a cousin who was a long haul trucker. He got into some 
> hot water for running over a gator in the south somewhere - Louisiana maybe. 
> They let him go after he pointed out the Manitoba licence plate on his truck 
> and told them that in Canada, a reference to a "gator on the road" over the 
> CB meant there was a truck tire tread on the road that should be avoided at a 
> certain location. He had not anticipated that it might be a genuine alligator 
> on the road.
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes.  Read this for details:

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/florida-law-says-if-a-gator-attacks-your-pet-youre-not-allowed-to-shoot-and-kill-it

-D


> On Jun 11, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 11/06/2018 3:25 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> I give our locals a wide berth whenever I see them.  There's some biguns 
>> around too, used to be lots more of huge ones, 15 footers. I've seen some 
>> 10-12 footers around.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
> 
> Are they considered "protected" where you are? Can you shoot them if they 
> appear interested in you?
> 
> I knew someone who had a cousin who was a long haul trucker. He got into some 
> hot water for running over a gator in the south somewhere - Louisiana maybe. 
> They let him go after he pointed out the Manitoba licence plate on his truck 
> and told them that in Canada, a reference to a "gator on the road" over the 
> CB meant there was a truck tire tread on the road that should be avoided at a 
> certain location. He had not anticipated that it might be a genuine alligator 
> on the road.
> 
> RB
> 
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[MBZ] OT: 'Nother project

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Saturday I got to work on my gas grill.Here's the old burner: 
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1721/41801207405_81f29ba2c0_b.jpg
I suspect I could have welded in patches to save it but it wouldn't be pretty 
and wouldn't last. That was the "cheap" burner which lasted 8 years, this time 
I opted for the "premium stainless steel burner". If it lasts another 8 years 
I'll be happy.
New burner, new briquette tray: 
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1738/42651741582_30813be2a1_b.jpg
New ceramic briquettes, new porcelain coated grill grates: 
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1723/40891086850_77a05fc341_b.jpg
Total cost about $150 shipped. $150 doesn't buy much in a grill...
To save wear and tear on the grill grates Angie bought some copper/silicone 
mats that go over the grates and prevent crud from cooking onto them, seems to 
work good and because they're thin you still get lines on the food.
-Curt
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[MBZ] OT: While talking about guns

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The other day I finally got a chance to go to the range and try out my .54 
caliber TC Renegade that I bought back in 
February.https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1754/27872740887_471c6a931d_b.jpg
With roundball it was kind of all over, I was holding about a 4" circle, I knew 
it could do better. When I bought the gun I also got 150 460gr "Buffalo 
Bullets" somebody had cast with a Lyman 
mold.https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1726/27872644347_20db850c5e_b.jpgWith 70 
grains of powder they were a little low, with 80 they're still a little low but 
make a nice 
group:https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1743/41842003945_8170d5acae_b.jpgThe 
Buffalo bullets make better holes too, they're the ones at about 5 o'clock in 
the picture.
I need to get a chronograph and see how fast they're going, with 460gr thats a 
helluva punch. Of course there is an equal and opposite reaction and the gun 
kicks like a mule shooting them. I ran out of powder at about the same time I 
ran out of shoulder, next time out I'll go back to 70gr and adjust the sights 
up a little...
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The one break action Rossi .22 single I've used as a very tight chamber. Some 
rounds have too much lube on them and the extractor won't extract. Which 
reminds me I need to bring a new .22 bore brush to camp to clean the chamber on 
that gun.

-Curt

On Monday, June 11, 2018, 5:19:49 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Definitely.  I suspect the casings are from either my Beretta NEOS or Walther 
P22, both semi auto pistols.  I got a live round and tried it in the chambers 
with the cylinder out of the pistol and they dropped right in with a very 
slight amount of resistance.

Guess I’ll have to fire some rounds in it before I can use the spent casings 
for practice….

-D

 
> On Jun 11, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Bolt action chambers tend to be tighter than revolver chambers which tend to 
> be tighter than semi auto chambers. The brass expands upon firing to fill 
> (and seal) the chamber. It now matches the chamber it was fired in (or as the 
> reloaders say, it's been fire-formed).
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Definitely.  I suspect the casings are from either my Beretta NEOS or Walther 
P22, both semi auto pistols.  I got a live round and tried it in the chambers 
with the cylinder out of the pistol and they dropped right in with a very 
slight amount of resistance.

Guess I’ll have to fire some rounds in it before I can use the spent casings 
for practice….

-D

 
> On Jun 11, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Bolt action chambers tend to be tighter than revolver chambers which tend to 
> be tighter than semi auto chambers. The brass expands upon firing to fill 
> (and seal) the chamber. It now matches the chamber it was fired in (or as the 
> reloaders say, it's been fire-formed).
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Bolt action chambers tend to be tighter than revolver chambers which tend to be 
tighter than semi auto chambers. The brass expands upon firing to fill (and 
seal) the chamber. It now matches the chamber it was fired in (or as the 
reloaders say, it's been fire-formed).
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 11/06/2018 3:25 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I give our locals a wide berth whenever I see them.  There's some 
biguns around too, used to be lots more of huge ones, 15 footers. I've 
seen some 10-12 footers around.


--FT



Are they considered "protected" where you are? Can you shoot them if 
they appear interested in you?


I knew someone who had a cousin who was a long haul trucker. He got into 
some hot water for running over a gator in the south somewhere - 
Louisiana maybe. They let him go after he pointed out the Manitoba 
licence plate on his truck and told them that in Canada, a reference to 
a "gator on the road" over the CB meant there was a truck tire tread on 
the road that should be avoided at a certain location. He had not 
anticipated that it might be a genuine alligator on the road.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve got some empty shells in my range back I keep for dry firing my other .22 
pistols, but for whatever reason they are not keen to go into the cylinder.  
I’m wondering if they’re slightly swelled from being fired, making the open 
ends a bit too large to go into the chambers?

I was going to practice loading it with empty shells, but I guess that’s not 
going to happen…

-D


> On Jun 11, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On June 11, 2018 at 3:20 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Greg.  I’m looking forward on some fun at the range with this as 
>> well as learning how to properly and safely load it.
>> 
>> As I understand, one in the chamber, an empty chamber, then four more?
> 
> Try it at the range and you'll know for sure. 
> If you do it right you'll have the hammer down on an empty chamber. 
> Thumb the hammer back and it'll be hot. 
> So if you get five shots in a row by thumbing the hammer back, you must have 
> loaded it right. 
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I give our locals a wide berth whenever I see them.  There's some biguns 
around too, used to be lots more of huge ones, 15 footers. I've seen 
some 10-12 footers around.


--FT


On 6/11/18 3:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

When I visited Tampa friends living in a gated community I used to think
the heavy security was intended to protect the alligators lying exposed
along the banks of the enclave's lake.



On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:17 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:


Davie is on the east coast down by Lauderdale.  I’m on the central west
coast - Tampa.

However, we have had incidents of domestic animals (dogs, mostly) being
killed and consumed by alligators.  You never want to walk your pet near an
open body of water for that reason.  They’re frightening fast and can dart
out of the water and grab Fluffy long before you could react.

-D


On Jun 11, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

She needed bigger dogs?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


FLORIDAAlligator kills woman walking her dogsPublished: Monday, June 11,
2018

Authorities have recovered the body of a missing Florida woman after

some

of her remains were found inside an alligator.

Shizuka Matsuki, 47, had last been seen walking her dogs Friday morning,
according to the Davie Police Department.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

When I visited Tampa friends living in a gated community I used to think
the heavy security was intended to protect the alligators lying exposed
along the banks of the enclave's lake.



On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:17 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Davie is on the east coast down by Lauderdale.  I’m on the central west
> coast - Tampa.
>
> However, we have had incidents of domestic animals (dogs, mostly) being
> killed and consumed by alligators.  You never want to walk your pet near an
> open body of water for that reason.  They’re frightening fast and can dart
> out of the water and grab Fluffy long before you could react.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 11, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > She needed bigger dogs?
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> FLORIDAAlligator kills woman walking her dogsPublished: Monday, June 11,
> >> 2018
> >>
> >> Authorities have recovered the body of a missing Florida woman after
> some
> >> of her remains were found inside an alligator.
> >>
> >> Shizuka Matsuki, 47, had last been seen walking her dogs Friday morning,
> >> according to the Davie Police Department.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

OMG those newfangled cars sound like a real PIA

Andrew
Whose "newest" vehicle ever owned was a 1985 300TD.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Was the yaw sensor malfunction constant, or intermittent?  Was the "cure"
> immediate with the new battery, or did you have to drive it a bit to make
> sure the code didn't come back?
>
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I examined the carfax I got from Kleb and determined that the MB battery
> > was 9 years old. I guessed that it could be causing problems with the
> > electronics because of a slightly low voltage, and I don't try to stretch
> > battery life past 5 or 6 years, so replaced it, even though it cranked
> and
> > started up just fine. I may have read somewhere that MB computer
> > electronics are very sensitive to voltage levels. That solved the error
> > code problem. So, a lucky guess?
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
> > Dillon via Mercedes
> > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:30 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Meade Dillon
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
> >
> > So how did you reach the conclusion that a new battery would fix the
> issue?
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I used an Autel Code Reader Diaglink (DIY Version of MD802). It uses
> the
> > > proprietary MB data that is available through the standard port, so
> > > provides a lot more than just a generic OBD2 scanner. It proved
> > invaluable
> > > when checking out my ML, at a much lower cost than the type of system
> > that
> > > Kaleb uses.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
> > > Dillon via Mercedes
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:47 AM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > > Cc: Max Dillon
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
> > >
> > > How did you diagnose that?  Was the message on the driver's info
> display,
> > > or did you need a diagnostic tool to get that?
> > > --
> > > Max Dillon
> > > Charleston SC
> > > '87 300TD
> > > '95 E300
> > >
> > > On June 9, 2018 6:37:29 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >A yaw sensor message on a W163 could be caused by a low voltage
> > > >condition. I cured mine with a new battery.
> > > >
> > > >Greg
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On June 11, 2018 at 3:20 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, Greg.  I’m looking forward on some fun at the range with this as well 
> as learning how to properly and safely load it.
> 
> As I understand, one in the chamber, an empty chamber, then four more?

Try it at the range and you'll know for sure. 
If you do it right you'll have the hammer down on an empty chamber. 
Thumb the hammer back and it'll be hot. 
So if you get five shots in a row by thumbing the hammer back, you must have 
loaded it right. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Thanks, Greg.  I’m looking forward on some fun at the range with this as well 
as learning how to properly and safely load it.

As I understand, one in the chamber, an empty chamber, then four more?

I have an excellent RSO that I’ll have walk me through it, too.

-D

> On Jun 11, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The revolver is indeed intended to fire two different rounds of slightly 
> different bullet diameter. And it was not the only one. There was also a 
> .357/9mm (.355) revolver with interchangeable cylinders. Not the best for top 
> target accuracy, but it kinda works, and is perfectly safe.
> 
> Congrats to Dan on a collectible and fun acquisition!
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade 
> Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 7:29 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Meade Dillon
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun
> 
> I think you mean something other than 22 magnum, I think that .22 magnum a
> slightly larger caliber than .22LR so you'd also need a larger diameter
> barrel.
> 
> Regardless, nice looking pistol and a great option for learning to safely
> and accurately handle such.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote:
> 
>> The provenance on this model gun is actually pretty cool.
>> 
>> Apparently, with the popularity of Westerns at the time, Ruger decided it
>> would be smart marketing to put out a “six shooter” for the masses. There
>> were a number of different models, with barrel lengths up to 9” and
>> “convertibles” that had an additional cylinder that allowed the owner to
>> shoot .22 magnum bullets as well.
>> 
>> The distinction between models as they aged seems to be the “three screw”
>> identifier that applies to revolvers made before the late 60s/early 70s,
>> when Ruger redesigned the action and added a stop bar for safety purposes.
>> 
>> You can still send your Super Single Six in to Ruger to be updated, but
>> I’ve found that the three screw unmodified models are more valuable, so
>> mine will stay that way and I’ll be careful to load only five at a time so
>> there’s nothing “in the pipe” so to speak.
>> 
>> I’ve also found that Ruger will not sell parts without a serial number,
>> and if it comes back as an unmodified model they will not sell you parts
>> without having the revolver back and updating it.
>> 
>> Meh. There’s always Brownell’s.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great
>> uncle, never have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be
>> too bad but I suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, June 10, 2018, 9:57:48 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For whatever reason, the Okie listserve strips my attachments out, no
>> matter how small.  Maybe some day the administrator can get that “feature”
>> sorted out.
>>> 
>>> http://penoff.com/photodump.html 
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 10, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
 
 On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:04:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
> After enjoying my Marlin 60 rifle so much, I started looking for
> a .22LR pistol/revolver.  I really didn’t want to drop the kind of coin
> necessary for like a Ruger Mark 4 or such, so I started looking at
> vintage revolvers.  Ended up buying a 1966 Ruger Super Single Six three
> screw model:
> 
> 
> 
> Won’t have time to get to the range today, so I’ll have to put it in
> the safe until later in the week when I can get out there…
 
 Was there supposed to be a picture attached in the blank lines in
>> between
 your two paragraphs, Dan?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Davie is on the east coast down by Lauderdale.  I’m on the central west coast - 
Tampa.

However, we have had incidents of domestic animals (dogs, mostly) being killed 
and consumed by alligators.  You never want to walk your pet near an open body 
of water for that reason.  They’re frightening fast and can dart out of the 
water and grab Fluffy long before you could react.

-D

> On Jun 11, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> She needed bigger dogs?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> FLORIDAAlligator kills woman walking her dogsPublished: Monday, June 11,
>> 2018
>> 
>> Authorities have recovered the body of a missing Florida woman after some
>> of her remains were found inside an alligator.
>> 
>> Shizuka Matsuki, 47, had last been seen walking her dogs Friday morning,
>> according to the Davie Police Department.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

She needed bigger dogs?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> FLORIDAAlligator kills woman walking her dogsPublished: Monday, June 11,
> 2018
>
> Authorities have recovered the body of a missing Florida woman after some
> of her remains were found inside an alligator.
>
> Shizuka Matsuki, 47, had last been seen walking her dogs Friday morning,
> according to the Davie Police Department.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Was the yaw sensor malfunction constant, or intermittent?  Was the "cure"
immediate with the new battery, or did you have to drive it a bit to make
sure the code didn't come back?


-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I examined the carfax I got from Kleb and determined that the MB battery
> was 9 years old. I guessed that it could be causing problems with the
> electronics because of a slightly low voltage, and I don't try to stretch
> battery life past 5 or 6 years, so replaced it, even though it cranked and
> started up just fine. I may have read somewhere that MB computer
> electronics are very sensitive to voltage levels. That solved the error
> code problem. So, a lucky guess?
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
> Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:30 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Meade Dillon
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
>
> So how did you reach the conclusion that a new battery would fix the issue?
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I used an Autel Code Reader Diaglink (DIY Version of MD802). It uses the
> > proprietary MB data that is available through the standard port, so
> > provides a lot more than just a generic OBD2 scanner. It proved
> invaluable
> > when checking out my ML, at a much lower cost than the type of system
> that
> > Kaleb uses.
> >
> > Greg
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
> > Dillon via Mercedes
> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:47 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Max Dillon
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
> >
> > How did you diagnose that?  Was the message on the driver's info display,
> > or did you need a diagnostic tool to get that?
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On June 9, 2018 6:37:29 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >A yaw sensor message on a W163 could be caused by a low voltage
> > >condition. I cured mine with a new battery.
> > >
> > >Greg
> > >
> >
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[MBZ] OT: Heads up Dan - is Davie (FL) anywhere near you?

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FLORIDAAlligator kills woman walking her dogsPublished: Monday, June 11,
2018

Authorities have recovered the body of a missing Florida woman after some
of her remains were found inside an alligator.

Shizuka Matsuki, 47, had last been seen walking her dogs Friday morning,
according to the Davie Police Department.

A man called the police when he spotted her dogs running loose and then saw
an alligator in a nearby lake.

Officials removed a 12-foot, 6-inch alligator from the lake Friday
afternoon and discovered human remains inside, the Florida Fish and
Wildlife Conservation Commission said in a statement.

The remains were identified by Matsuki's brother, who recognized her
distinctive arm tattoo, according to WSVN, a Fox affiliate.

"We would like to extend our heartfelt condolences to the family and
friends of Shizuka Matsuki," the wildlife commission said in a statement on
Twitter.

There are around 1.3 million alligators in Florida, but unprovoked attacks
resulting in serious injury are rare, according to the commission's
website. The last death occurred in 2016, when a 2-year-old boy was killed
at a Disney resort (Christina Caron, *New York Times*
, June
9). *— MJ*
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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Lucky, tinged with brilliance.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I examined the carfax I got from Kleb and determined that the MB battery
> was 9 years old. I guessed that it could be causing problems with the
> electronics because of a slightly low voltage, and I don't try to stretch
> battery life past 5 or 6 years, so replaced it, even though it cranked and
> started up just fine. I may have read somewhere that MB computer
> electronics are very sensitive to voltage levels. That solved the error
> code problem. So, a lucky guess?
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
> Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:30 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Meade Dillon
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
>
> So how did you reach the conclusion that a new battery would fix the issue?
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I used an Autel Code Reader Diaglink (DIY Version of MD802). It uses the
> > proprietary MB data that is available through the standard port, so
> > provides a lot more than just a generic OBD2 scanner. It proved
> invaluable
> > when checking out my ML, at a much lower cost than the type of system
> that
> > Kaleb uses.
> >
> > Greg
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
> > Dillon via Mercedes
> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:47 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Max Dillon
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
> >
> > How did you diagnose that?  Was the message on the driver's info display,
> > or did you need a diagnostic tool to get that?
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On June 9, 2018 6:37:29 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >A yaw sensor message on a W163 could be caused by a low voltage
> > >condition. I cured mine with a new battery.
> > >
> > >Greg
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I examined the carfax I got from Kleb and determined that the MB battery was 9 
years old. I guessed that it could be causing problems with the electronics 
because of a slightly low voltage, and I don't try to stretch battery life past 
5 or 6 years, so replaced it, even though it cranked and started up just fine. 
I may have read somewhere that MB computer electronics are very sensitive to 
voltage levels. That solved the error code problem. So, a lucky guess?

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade Dillon 
via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:30 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

So how did you reach the conclusion that a new battery would fix the issue?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I used an Autel Code Reader Diaglink (DIY Version of MD802). It uses the
> proprietary MB data that is available through the standard port, so
> provides a lot more than just a generic OBD2 scanner. It proved invaluable
> when checking out my ML, at a much lower cost than the type of system that
> Kaleb uses.
>
> Greg
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
> Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:47 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Max Dillon
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
>
> How did you diagnose that?  Was the message on the driver's info display,
> or did you need a diagnostic tool to get that?
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On June 9, 2018 6:37:29 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >A yaw sensor message on a W163 could be caused by a low voltage
> >condition. I cured mine with a new battery.
> >
> >Greg
> >
>
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[MBZ] Willow Green ex-Manitoba 1987 560SE L getting lots of love on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Randy - did you know this car?  It was born in Manitoba before moving to
TX.  Already at $11k,

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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

So how did you reach the conclusion that a new battery would fix the issue?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I used an Autel Code Reader Diaglink (DIY Version of MD802). It uses the
> proprietary MB data that is available through the standard port, so
> provides a lot more than just a generic OBD2 scanner. It proved invaluable
> when checking out my ML, at a much lower cost than the type of system that
> Kaleb uses.
>
> Greg
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
> Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:47 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Max Dillon
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
>
> How did you diagnose that?  Was the message on the driver's info display,
> or did you need a diagnostic tool to get that?
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On June 9, 2018 6:37:29 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >A yaw sensor message on a W163 could be caused by a low voltage
> >condition. I cured mine with a new battery.
> >
> >Greg
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

The revolver is indeed intended to fire two different rounds of slightly 
different bullet diameter. And it was not the only one. There was also a 
.357/9mm (.355) revolver with interchangeable cylinders. Not the best for top 
target accuracy, but it kinda works, and is perfectly safe.

Congrats to Dan on a collectible and fun acquisition!

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

I think you mean something other than 22 magnum, I think that .22 magnum a
slightly larger caliber than .22LR so you'd also need a larger diameter
barrel.

Regardless, nice looking pistol and a great option for learning to safely
and accurately handle such.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

> The provenance on this model gun is actually pretty cool.
>
> Apparently, with the popularity of Westerns at the time, Ruger decided it
> would be smart marketing to put out a “six shooter” for the masses. There
> were a number of different models, with barrel lengths up to 9” and
> “convertibles” that had an additional cylinder that allowed the owner to
> shoot .22 magnum bullets as well.
>
> The distinction between models as they aged seems to be the “three screw”
> identifier that applies to revolvers made before the late 60s/early 70s,
> when Ruger redesigned the action and added a stop bar for safety purposes.
>
> You can still send your Super Single Six in to Ruger to be updated, but
> I’ve found that the three screw unmodified models are more valuable, so
> mine will stay that way and I’ll be careful to load only five at a time so
> there’s nothing “in the pipe” so to speak.
>
> I’ve also found that Ruger will not sell parts without a serial number,
> and if it comes back as an unmodified model they will not sell you parts
> without having the revolver back and updating it.
>
> Meh. There’s always Brownell’s.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 11, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great
> uncle, never have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be
> too bad but I suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...
> >
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, June 10, 2018, 9:57:48 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For whatever reason, the Okie listserve strips my attachments out, no
> matter how small.  Maybe some day the administrator can get that “feature”
> sorted out.
> >
> > http://penoff.com/photodump.html 
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 10, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:04:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> After enjoying my Marlin 60 rifle so much, I started looking for
> >>> a .22LR pistol/revolver.  I really didn’t want to drop the kind of coin
> >>> necessary for like a Ruger Mark 4 or such, so I started looking at
> >>> vintage revolvers.  Ended up buying a 1966 Ruger Super Single Six three
> >>> screw model:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Won’t have time to get to the range today, so I’ll have to put it in
> >>> the safe until later in the week when I can get out there…
> >>
> >> Was there supposed to be a picture attached in the blank lines in
> between
> >> your two paragraphs, Dan?
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
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Kim Jong Un Offers to Host Peace Talks Between United States and Canada


By Andy Borowitz 

11:13 A.M.
Photograph by Inter-Korean Summit Press Corps / Getty

SINGAPORE (The Borowitz Report
)—One day before his
summit with Donald J. Trump, the North Korean dictator, Kim Jong Un, has
offered to host peace talks between the United States and Canada.

Speaking to reporters at his hotel in Singapore, Kim said that the rising
tensions between the North American neighbors were posing an “intolerable
threat to world peace.”

In addition to offering to host U.S.-Canada talks in Pyongyang, Kim urged
the immediate creation of a demilitarized zone along the border separating
the two hostile nations.

“In exchange for Canadian Mounties agreeing to stand down on their side of
the border, the United States, in turn, would dismantle its nuclear
weapons,” Kim said.

Although stating that “North Korea stands ready and willing to be an honest
broker” in peace talks between the two countries, he urged Trump to dial
back the “inflammatory rhetoric” that he aimed at Canadians over the
weekend.

“Violent language and threats have no place in international diplomacy,”
Kim said.
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Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I used an Autel Code Reader Diaglink (DIY Version of MD802). It uses the 
proprietary MB data that is available through the standard port, so provides a 
lot more than just a generic OBD2 scanner. It proved invaluable when checking 
out my ML, at a much lower cost than the type of system that Kaleb uses.

Greg
-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon 
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:47 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?

How did you diagnose that?  Was the message on the driver's info display, or 
did you need a diagnostic tool to get that?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 9, 2018 6:37:29 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>A yaw sensor message on a W163 could be caused by a low voltage
>condition. I cured mine with a new battery.
>
>Greg
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 12:39 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Cc: Buggered Benzmail
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitchmobile?
>
>If the problem is intermittent sounds like bad connection. 
>
>--R
>Sent from iPhone
>
>> On Jun 9, 2018, at 3:03 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> No, different problem. Mark says yaw sensor / computer is bad, about
>a $900 part.  Runs fine most of the time, then malfunctions and is
>dangerous to drive.  He wants $2500.
>> 
>> Strong Irish accent!  
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>>> On June 9, 2018 1:09:10 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>> If transmission issues means runs great in 2nd gear only, Max should
>be
>>> all over it at parts car prices. I think the trans was beefed up to
>>> cure the bearing failures that plagued hard driven W140s, and that
>>> should apply to the W163 by year 2000, shouldn't it?
>>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yes, a friend of mine in college owned one (probably still does) with both
cylinders that he would interchange. The WMR rounds were considerably
louder (we didn't have ear protection in 1970, or were even aware of it). I
remember being un-impressed by the fire and smoke coming out between the
cylinders and the barrel - much preferring my 22LR Stoeger replica Luger.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> According to the Wiki and Ruger’s documentation, the convertible models
> can be fired with both .22LR and WMR rounds:
>
> “Ruger manufactures several "convertible" models that ship with both a .22
> LR cylinder and .22 WMR cylinder, allowing the use of both cartridges.[3]
> The .22 Shortand .22 Long cartridges can also be fired in the Long Rifle
> cylinder. For those models that ship with both cylinders, the last 3 digits
> of the serial number are engraved on the front of the cylinder; only
> cylinders that have been properly timed should be used with any given
> revolver. The term Super Single-Six refers to those models which have fully
> adjustable target sights.”
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

.22LR bullet diameter is .223
.22WMR is .224 and usually jacketed. 

I wouldn't be surprised if most .22LR barrels have a groove diameter of .222 to 
better engage the lead projectile, with .22WMR bored .224. 

Mitch. 

> On June 11, 2018 at 11:07 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .22 is the diameter of .22 short, .22 long, .22 long rifle and .22 magnum. A 
> .22 mag revolver should be able to shoot all 4 rounds although the shorter 
> rounds will be less accurate (and of course less powerful) due to having to 
> jump from the cartridge to the barrel.
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, June 11, 2018, 10:46:24 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Nope.
> 
> According to the Wiki and Ruger’s documentation, the convertible models can 
> be fired with both .22LR and WMR rounds:
> 
> “Ruger manufactures several "convertible" models that ship with both a .22 LR 
> cylinder and .22 WMR cylinder, allowing the use of both cartridges.[3] The 
> .22 Shortand .22 Long cartridges can also be fired in the Long Rifle 
> cylinder. For those models that ship with both cylinders, the last 3 digits 
> of the serial number are engraved on the front of the cylinder; only 
> cylinders that have been properly timed should be used with any given 
> revolver. The term Super Single-Six refers to those models which have fully 
> adjustable target sights.”
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jun 11, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I think you mean something other than 22 magnum, I think that .22 magnum a
> > slightly larger caliber than .22LR so you'd also need a larger diameter
> > barrel.
> > 
> > Regardless, nice looking pistol and a great option for learning to safely
> > and accurately handle such.
> > 
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  >> wrote:
> > 
> >> The provenance on this model gun is actually pretty cool.
> >> 
> >> Apparently, with the popularity of Westerns at the time, Ruger decided it
> >> would be smart marketing to put out a “six shooter” for the masses. There
> >> were a number of different models, with barrel lengths up to 9” and
> >> “convertibles” that had an additional cylinder that allowed the owner to
> >> shoot .22 magnum bullets as well.
> >> 
> >> The distinction between models as they aged seems to be the “three screw”
> >> identifier that applies to revolvers made before the late 60s/early 70s,
> >> when Ruger redesigned the action and added a stop bar for safety purposes.
> >> 
> >> You can still send your Super Single Six in to Ruger to be updated, but
> >> I’ve found that the three screw unmodified models are more valuable, so
> >> mine will stay that way and I’ll be careful to load only five at a time so
> >> there’s nothing “in the pipe” so to speak.
> >> 
> >> I’ve also found that Ruger will not sell parts without a serial number,
> >> and if it comes back as an unmodified model they will not sell you parts
> >> without having the revolver back and updating it.
> >> 
> >> Meh. There’s always Brownell’s.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great
> >> uncle, never have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be
> >> too bad but I suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -Curt
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Sunday, June 10, 2018, 9:57:48 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> For whatever reason, the Okie listserve strips my attachments out, no
> >> matter how small.  Maybe some day the administrator can get that “feature”
> >> sorted out.
> >>> 
> >>> http://penoff.com/photodump.html 
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its huge. I've got a holster for it, the leather doesn't cover the end of the 
barrel...

I'll try to get a picture of it the next time I'm at my parent's house. When I 
got my concealed weapons permit the guy asked if I had any guns, I explained my 
parents were holding onto some for me. He asked if I had any pistols, I said I 
had a .44. He asked if I'd be carrying it and I explained that since open carry 
is illegal here and since its enormous I probably wouldn't carry it...


-Curt




On Monday, June 11, 2018, 11:12:00 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote: 






> On June 11, 2018 at 9:44 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great uncle, 
> never have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be too bad 
> but I suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...

10" Blackhawk would be a lot to carry on your hip. 
Around here, those guns are scoped and carried in shoulder holsters for deer 
rifle substitutes. 
At least that's what a friend of mine does with an 8 3/4" stainless Taurus.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On June 11, 2018 at 9:44 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great uncle, 
> never have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be too bad 
> but I suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...

10" Blackhawk would be a lot to carry on your hip. 
Around here, those guns are scoped and carried in shoulder holsters for deer 
rifle substitutes. 
At least that's what a friend of mine does with an 8 3/4" stainless Taurus.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Huh, guess I was fooled by the larger brass case into thinking that the
bullet was also larger.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

> Nope.
>
> According to the Wiki and Ruger’s documentation, the convertible models
> can be fired with both .22LR and WMR rounds:
>
> “Ruger manufactures several "convertible" models that ship with both a .22
> LR cylinder and .22 WMR cylinder, allowing the use of both cartridges.[3]
> The .22 Shortand .22 Long cartridges can also be fired in the Long Rifle
> cylinder. For those models that ship with both cylinders, the last 3 digits
> of the serial number are engraved on the front of the cylinder; only
> cylinders that have been properly timed should be used with any given
> revolver. The term Super Single-Six refers to those models which have fully
> adjustable target sights.”
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 11, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think you mean something other than 22 magnum, I think that .22 magnum
> a
> > slightly larger caliber than .22LR so you'd also need a larger diameter
> > barrel.
> >
> > Regardless, nice looking pistol and a great option for learning to safely
> > and accurately handle such.
> >
> > -
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

And no doubt why cylinder timing would be critical.

-D

> On Jun 11, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> .22 is the diameter of .22 short, .22 long, .22 long rifle and .22 magnum. A 
> .22 mag revolver should be able to shoot all 4 rounds although the shorter 
> rounds will be less accurate (and of course less powerful) due to having to 
> jump from the cartridge to the barrel.
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, June 11, 2018, 10:46:24 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Nope.
> 
> According to the Wiki and Ruger’s documentation, the convertible models can 
> be fired with both .22LR and WMR rounds:
> 
> “Ruger manufactures several "convertible" models that ship with both a .22 LR 
> cylinder and .22 WMR cylinder, allowing the use of both cartridges.[3] The 
> .22 Shortand .22 Long cartridges can also be fired in the Long Rifle 
> cylinder. For those models that ship with both cylinders, the last 3 digits 
> of the serial number are engraved on the front of the cylinder; only 
> cylinders that have been properly timed should be used with any given 
> revolver. The term Super Single-Six refers to those models which have fully 
> adjustable target sights.”
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think you mean something other than 22 magnum, I think that .22 magnum a
>> slightly larger caliber than .22LR so you'd also need a larger diameter
>> barrel.
>> 
>> Regardless, nice looking pistol and a great option for learning to safely
>> and accurately handle such.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes >> wrote:
>> 
>>> The provenance on this model gun is actually pretty cool.
>>> 
>>> Apparently, with the popularity of Westerns at the time, Ruger decided it
>>> would be smart marketing to put out a “six shooter” for the masses. There
>>> were a number of different models, with barrel lengths up to 9” and
>>> “convertibles” that had an additional cylinder that allowed the owner to
>>> shoot .22 magnum bullets as well.
>>> 
>>> The distinction between models as they aged seems to be the “three screw”
>>> identifier that applies to revolvers made before the late 60s/early 70s,
>>> when Ruger redesigned the action and added a stop bar for safety purposes.
>>> 
>>> You can still send your Super Single Six in to Ruger to be updated, but
>>> I’ve found that the three screw unmodified models are more valuable, so
>>> mine will stay that way and I’ll be careful to load only five at a time so
>>> there’s nothing “in the pipe” so to speak.
>>> 
>>> I’ve also found that Ruger will not sell parts without a serial number,
>>> and if it comes back as an unmodified model they will not sell you parts
>>> without having the revolver back and updating it.
>>> 
>>> Meh. There’s always Brownell’s.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jun 11, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
 
 
 
 Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great
>>> uncle, never have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be
>>> too bad but I suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...
 
 
 -Curt
 
 
 
 
 On Sunday, June 10, 2018, 9:57:48 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 For whatever reason, the Okie listserve strips my attachments out, no
>>> matter how small.  Maybe some day the administrator can get that “feature”
>>> sorted out.
 
 http://penoff.com/photodump.html 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

.22 is the diameter of .22 short, .22 long, .22 long rifle and .22 magnum. A 
.22 mag revolver should be able to shoot all 4 rounds although the shorter 
rounds will be less accurate (and of course less powerful) due to having to 
jump from the cartridge to the barrel.


-Curt




On Monday, June 11, 2018, 10:46:24 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Nope.

According to the Wiki and Ruger’s documentation, the convertible models can be 
fired with both .22LR and WMR rounds:

“Ruger manufactures several "convertible" models that ship with both a .22 LR 
cylinder and .22 WMR cylinder, allowing the use of both cartridges.[3] The .22 
Shortand .22 Long cartridges can also be fired in the Long Rifle cylinder. For 
those models that ship with both cylinders, the last 3 digits of the serial 
number are engraved on the front of the cylinder; only cylinders that have been 
properly timed should be used with any given revolver. The term Super 
Single-Six refers to those models which have fully adjustable target sights.”

-D

> On Jun 11, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think you mean something other than 22 magnum, I think that .22 magnum a
> slightly larger caliber than .22LR so you'd also need a larger diameter
> barrel.
> 
> Regardless, nice looking pistol and a great option for learning to safely
> and accurately handle such.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote:
> 
>> The provenance on this model gun is actually pretty cool.
>> 
>> Apparently, with the popularity of Westerns at the time, Ruger decided it
>> would be smart marketing to put out a “six shooter” for the masses. There
>> were a number of different models, with barrel lengths up to 9” and
>> “convertibles” that had an additional cylinder that allowed the owner to
>> shoot .22 magnum bullets as well.
>> 
>> The distinction between models as they aged seems to be the “three screw”
>> identifier that applies to revolvers made before the late 60s/early 70s,
>> when Ruger redesigned the action and added a stop bar for safety purposes.
>> 
>> You can still send your Super Single Six in to Ruger to be updated, but
>> I’ve found that the three screw unmodified models are more valuable, so
>> mine will stay that way and I’ll be careful to load only five at a time so
>> there’s nothing “in the pipe” so to speak.
>> 
>> I’ve also found that Ruger will not sell parts without a serial number,
>> and if it comes back as an unmodified model they will not sell you parts
>> without having the revolver back and updating it.
>> 
>> Meh. There’s always Brownell’s.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great
>> uncle, never have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be
>> too bad but I suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, June 10, 2018, 9:57:48 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For whatever reason, the Okie listserve strips my attachments out, no
>> matter how small.  Maybe some day the administrator can get that “feature”
>> sorted out.
>>> 
>>> http://penoff.com/photodump.html 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Nope.

According to the Wiki and Ruger’s documentation, the convertible models can be 
fired with both .22LR and WMR rounds:

“Ruger manufactures several "convertible" models that ship with both a .22 LR 
cylinder and .22 WMR cylinder, allowing the use of both cartridges.[3] The .22 
Shortand .22 Long cartridges can also be fired in the Long Rifle cylinder. For 
those models that ship with both cylinders, the last 3 digits of the serial 
number are engraved on the front of the cylinder; only cylinders that have been 
properly timed should be used with any given revolver. The term Super 
Single-Six refers to those models which have fully adjustable target sights.”

-D

> On Jun 11, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think you mean something other than 22 magnum, I think that .22 magnum a
> slightly larger caliber than .22LR so you'd also need a larger diameter
> barrel.
> 
> Regardless, nice looking pistol and a great option for learning to safely
> and accurately handle such.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote:
> 
>> The provenance on this model gun is actually pretty cool.
>> 
>> Apparently, with the popularity of Westerns at the time, Ruger decided it
>> would be smart marketing to put out a “six shooter” for the masses. There
>> were a number of different models, with barrel lengths up to 9” and
>> “convertibles” that had an additional cylinder that allowed the owner to
>> shoot .22 magnum bullets as well.
>> 
>> The distinction between models as they aged seems to be the “three screw”
>> identifier that applies to revolvers made before the late 60s/early 70s,
>> when Ruger redesigned the action and added a stop bar for safety purposes.
>> 
>> You can still send your Super Single Six in to Ruger to be updated, but
>> I’ve found that the three screw unmodified models are more valuable, so
>> mine will stay that way and I’ll be careful to load only five at a time so
>> there’s nothing “in the pipe” so to speak.
>> 
>> I’ve also found that Ruger will not sell parts without a serial number,
>> and if it comes back as an unmodified model they will not sell you parts
>> without having the revolver back and updating it.
>> 
>> Meh. There’s always Brownell’s.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great
>> uncle, never have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be
>> too bad but I suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, June 10, 2018, 9:57:48 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For whatever reason, the Okie listserve strips my attachments out, no
>> matter how small.  Maybe some day the administrator can get that “feature”
>> sorted out.
>>> 
>>> http://penoff.com/photodump.html 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I think you mean something other than 22 magnum, I think that .22 magnum a
slightly larger caliber than .22LR so you'd also need a larger diameter
barrel.

Regardless, nice looking pistol and a great option for learning to safely
and accurately handle such.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

> The provenance on this model gun is actually pretty cool.
>
> Apparently, with the popularity of Westerns at the time, Ruger decided it
> would be smart marketing to put out a “six shooter” for the masses. There
> were a number of different models, with barrel lengths up to 9” and
> “convertibles” that had an additional cylinder that allowed the owner to
> shoot .22 magnum bullets as well.
>
> The distinction between models as they aged seems to be the “three screw”
> identifier that applies to revolvers made before the late 60s/early 70s,
> when Ruger redesigned the action and added a stop bar for safety purposes.
>
> You can still send your Super Single Six in to Ruger to be updated, but
> I’ve found that the three screw unmodified models are more valuable, so
> mine will stay that way and I’ll be careful to load only five at a time so
> there’s nothing “in the pipe” so to speak.
>
> I’ve also found that Ruger will not sell parts without a serial number,
> and if it comes back as an unmodified model they will not sell you parts
> without having the revolver back and updating it.
>
> Meh. There’s always Brownell’s.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 11, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great
> uncle, never have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be
> too bad but I suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...
> >
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, June 10, 2018, 9:57:48 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For whatever reason, the Okie listserve strips my attachments out, no
> matter how small.  Maybe some day the administrator can get that “feature”
> sorted out.
> >
> > http://penoff.com/photodump.html 
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 10, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:04:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> After enjoying my Marlin 60 rifle so much, I started looking for
> >>> a .22LR pistol/revolver.  I really didn’t want to drop the kind of coin
> >>> necessary for like a Ruger Mark 4 or such, so I started looking at
> >>> vintage revolvers.  Ended up buying a 1966 Ruger Super Single Six three
> >>> screw model:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Won’t have time to get to the range today, so I’ll have to put it in
> >>> the safe until later in the week when I can get out there…
> >>
> >> Was there supposed to be a picture attached in the blank lines in
> between
> >> your two paragraphs, Dan?
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

The provenance on this model gun is actually pretty cool.

Apparently, with the popularity of Westerns at the time, Ruger decided it would 
be smart marketing to put out a “six shooter” for the masses. There were a 
number of different models, with barrel lengths up to 9” and “convertibles” 
that had an additional cylinder that allowed the owner to shoot .22 magnum 
bullets as well.

The distinction between models as they aged seems to be the “three screw” 
identifier that applies to revolvers made before the late 60s/early 70s, when 
Ruger redesigned the action and added a stop bar for safety purposes.

You can still send your Super Single Six in to Ruger to be updated, but I’ve 
found that the three screw unmodified models are more valuable, so mine will 
stay that way and I’ll be careful to load only five at a time so there’s 
nothing “in the pipe” so to speak.

I’ve also found that Ruger will not sell parts without a serial number, and if 
it comes back as an unmodified model they will not sell you parts without 
having the revolver back and updating it.

Meh. There’s always Brownell’s.

-D

> On Jun 11, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great uncle, 
> never have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be too bad 
> but I suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, June 10, 2018, 9:57:48 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For whatever reason, the Okie listserve strips my attachments out, no matter 
> how small.  Maybe some day the administrator can get that “feature” sorted 
> out.
> 
> http://penoff.com/photodump.html 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:04:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> After enjoying my Marlin 60 rifle so much, I started looking for
>>> a .22LR pistol/revolver.  I really didn’t want to drop the kind of coin
>>> necessary for like a Ruger Mark 4 or such, so I started looking at
>>> vintage revolvers.  Ended up buying a 1966 Ruger Super Single Six three
>>> screw model:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Won’t have time to get to the range today, so I’ll have to put it in
>>> the safe until later in the week when I can get out there…
>> 
>> Was there supposed to be a picture attached in the blank lines in between
>> your two paragraphs, Dan?
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be too bad but I suspect if I wanted
> to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...


It'll be fine, even with full loads.  With a 4" barrel the answer would be
different.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's Fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Nice, I have its BIG brother in .44 Mag. I inherited it from a great uncle, 
never have shot it though. With the 10" barrel recoil shouldn't be too bad but 
I suspect if I wanted to shoot it much I'd want to hand load...


-Curt




On Sunday, June 10, 2018, 9:57:48 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





For whatever reason, the Okie listserve strips my attachments out, no matter 
how small.  Maybe some day the administrator can get that “feature” sorted out.

http://penoff.com/photodump.html 

-D





> On Jun 10, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:04:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> After enjoying my Marlin 60 rifle so much, I started looking for
>> a .22LR pistol/revolver.  I really didn’t want to drop the kind of coin
>> necessary for like a Ruger Mark 4 or such, so I started looking at
>> vintage revolvers.  Ended up buying a 1966 Ruger Super Single Six three
>> screw model:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Won’t have time to get to the range today, so I’ll have to put it in
>> the safe until later in the week when I can get out there…
> 
> Was there supposed to be a picture attached in the blank lines in between
> your two paragraphs, Dan?
> 
> 
> Craig
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